H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 1 后半句呢？还有里面其他的都被你无视了？得过heisman在nfl进不了第一轮的太多了，
选不上的都好多呢
migh |
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H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 2 可是他毕竟没进啊，他要是能在nfl里当星星还能去nba当角色球员？
你的论点是ai要是选择football一样轻松在nfl成名，可是根本举不出任何证据光凭想
象。
我的论点是ai选择篮球成功的概率要大的多，我的论据就是和ai类型差不多的摩步qb进
nfl的机会非常低，像ward这样的heisman奖也没都没在nfl成名 |
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h**********9
发帖数: 3252 | 3
1. Tommy Frazier -- 6'2", 205lb
1993 MVP of the national title game despite the loss (对手是当年的害死人
Charlie Ward）
1994 MVP of the national title game
1995 MVP of the national title game， Heisman Trophy Runner-Up
Frazier was never drafted in the NFL due to a serious blood clot in his left
leg.
本人亲眼见过他打篮球，扣篮很轻松，身体素质在NBA没问题。 |
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H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 4 jason white大学的数据比ward好多了，差点得第二个heisman
当然jason white是很极端的例子，不过你们这些nba粉们也就是拿着一个ward翻来覆去
的说事，真不明白为啥非要给运动分出高低来 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 5 Charlie Ward won Heisman Award. |
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s*******s
发帖数: 1 | 8
Yeah, Alexander的确够cool. 好象他也是Heisman candidate.
FSU 和 UF 从来都是视对方为头号敌人。常规赛季的压轴大戏往往是这
一场。一般来说，谁赢谁差不多就能进冠亚军决战。两队水平半斤八两，
一般都是主场获胜。今年本是UF那national championship的最好时机。
没想到阴沟翻船。可惜今年这一五星级的赛事主场在Gainsville,
只好看电视转播了。 |
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o********g
发帖数: 162 | 9 Thirteen teams remain with zero or one loss.
Teams picking up their first loss were Va Tech and TCU.
Teams picking up their second loss were Clemson and Southern Miss.
The three PAC10 teams with one loss each had close games:
Oregon over Wash State 27-24
Oregon State over Cal 38-32
Washington over Arizona 35-32
Chris Weinke can throw for 6000 yards this year, but if Drew Brees takes the
Boilermakers to the Rose Bowl for the first time in
?? years, he wins the Heisman. A b |
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b*******y
发帖数: 5 | 10 Undefeated in the toughest conference. Almost shut out FSU,
7th National Champion.
In big12, OU has the best defense, Neb has the best
offense, next year,
Neb has the home field advantage to OU & KSU, I hope Eric
Crouch could grasp the chance to lead Cornhusker to NC and
won Heisman Trofy.
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o********g
发帖数: 162 | 11 Preseason Top 10
1. Florida
2. Virginia Tech*
3. Nebraska
4. Oregon State
5. Miami
6. Oklahoma
7. Oregon
8. Texas
9. Florida State
10. South Carolina
Heisman hopefuls
1. Michael Vick, QB, Va. Tech*
2. Ken Simonton, RB, Oregon State
3. Ken Dorsey, QB, Miami
4. Damien Anderson, RB, Northwestern
5. Lito Sheppard, CB, Florida
* Only if Vick stays in college, of course. |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 12 john madden辞职后，al davis任命进攻助理教练
(就是现在的offensive coordinator,
那时候还没这个头衔)tom flores继任主教练。
flores当年就是davis当主教练是雷达的QB,
72年退役以后就一直担任雷达的助理教练，
是davis重点培养的madden接班人。
davis非常注意教练班子的稳定和对教练的培养，
这也是雷达几十年来长盛不衰的秘诀。
Flores上任后的第一个年头没能把雷达带回playoff,
成绩和上一年一样，9胜7负。
不过雷达的重建工作开始启动，
davis把madden的QB ken stabler送到了houston，
替之以老将jim plunkett。
plunkett当年是stanford的明星QB，
heisman trophy获得者，选秀状元，
可惜他的NFL生涯非常不顺利，
在烂队NE patroits和SF 49ers挣扎7年以后，
终于到了山穷水尽无人问津的地步。
正在他被49ers解雇，准备退出NFL的时候，
plunkett幸运地被伯乐al davis相中。
在雷达当了两年ken stabl |
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H****t
发帖数: 2542 | 13 hand-off: a running play where the quarterback hands the ball to
a back.
hang time: the length of time a punt is in the air.
Heisman Trophy: an award presented annually by the Downtown
Athletic Club of New York to the best college football player in
the country.
holding: a foul where a player impedes the movement of an
opponent by grasping or hooking any part of his body or uniform;
punishable by a penalty — 10 yards if against the offense, 5
yards (10 yards in college) plus a first down if agai |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 14 偶们雷达：
1995,
第一轮：RB napoleon kaufman，以为找到自己的barry sanders了，
可惜这孩子太瘦小，block也不行，没有跑出来。
第三轮令一个RB joe aska, 曾经有一年yards/carry lead NFL,
但和kaufman一个类型的，也很早下岗了。
第二轮center barret robbins, superbowl上崩溃了的ex-all pro
grade: B
1996, C
第一轮：ricky dudley,现在在TB，stonehand一直没有提高。
2: lance johnstone, solid DE, NFL starter级别的
1997， D
用1st,2nd rounders trade up到No.2,
结果还是没弄到orlando pace,弄来了darell russell, DT,
一度是league最佳之一，因为吸毒、强奸被kickout出了NFL
1998, A
1st: heisman trophy winner chrles woodson,
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a****r
发帖数: 154 | 15 Bo is arguably best multi-sports talent ever in the history.
不是一班二班的牛。
the only guy in history who has won Heisman Trophy, MLB All-Star MVP
and also went to pro-bowl. |
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b****e
发帖数: 1275 | 16 he is a poor kid that surrounded himself with bad people. it's really a great
pity and tragic story - had clarett kept his mouth shut and listened to jim
brown and marcus allen, he would have stayed at ohio state and probably won
another NC and a heisman, and become a first round pick this year. look at
where he is now, he'd be lucky to get drafted (i do believe there'll be teams
taking a chance on him, after all, he could play ball, even in his limited
appearances back in 2002).
a lot of buckey |
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 17 Who's No. 1? Texans, Williams sign contractESPN.com news services
HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State defensive end
Mario Williams to a six-year, $54 million deal, making him the No. 1 pick in
the NFL draft Saturday.
Of the $54 million, Williams is guaranteed $26.5 million.
Texans general manager Charley Casserly had cautioned earlier in the week that
anyone concluding the team had decided on Southern California tailback and
Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and was on |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 18 Classic combine confusion
Scouts foolish to ignore QB Smith's college success
Posted: Tuesday February 27, 2007 5:07PM; Updated: Wednesday February 28,
2007 11:11AM
For all that Troy Smith accomplished the past two-plus years at Ohio State,
I don't think I've ever been more impressed with him than I am right now. Af
ter I read the various reports out of last weekend's NFL combine in Indianap
olis, it's become apparent that Smith managed to win a Heisman Trophy, rack
up ridiculous passing stats a |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 19 我步半仙掐指一算，今年最好的NFL QB draft是jimmy clausen. 这人去个不是最烂的队
伍，有能稍微保护她的OL, 3年之内能进pro bowl
从歪斯黑这里说出来的，以前一直嘲笑4 heisman的，应该是很中肯的。大家要努力学习
我这种公正不阿的作风 |
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k******n
发帖数: 1265 | 20 除了reggie bush 今年的bradford还有top 10吗？！
tebow才25位！！
前几年好像有一个第五轮要不就是第六轮！ |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 21 Why the outrage? Google Jason White ... |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 22 troy smith says "thank you for remembering me" |
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a****y
发帖数: 2548 | 24 Charlie Ward直接进了NBA。
大学奖项跟NFL又不是看一样的东西，有差别很正常。 |
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 26 应该好好培养Leinart，毕竟是拿过Heisman Trophy的QB, 很值得期待。 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 27 竞争不过kurt warner没啥，连derek anderson都争不过。看来heisman QB都是
overrated |
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a****y
发帖数: 2548 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 NCAA 讨论区 】
发信人: YouRFree (YouRFree), 信区: NCAA
标 题: Troy Smith is cut by Ravens.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 5 01:42:55 2010, 美东)
FYI.
Leinart, too.
Two heisman winners. |
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m*****w
发帖数: 549 | 29 1。 Heisman trophy in college doesn't mean a lot. It lost to the one with
second career start.
2. PC has some talent for head coach, but the most important is that he
also has some luck to be the first team with losing record in playoff.
I am also surprised that he got Mike Williams back. He is very good player
in USC. |
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 30 USC在01年的Miami面前恐怕只有被秒的份吧...
你们有Leinart，Miami还有Dorsey呢。Dorsey连续多少年的Heisman finalist,只是因
为臂力和脚步的缺陷无法在NFL立足。
莫非你是USC的？你们看到Vince Young要吓得尿裤子了吧？ |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 32 【 以下文字转载自 NCAA 讨论区 】
发信人: YouRFree (有阿福), 信区: NCAA
标 题: 武松总算人生也算完整了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 6 22:50:15 2011, 美东)
拿到了一个super bowl ring，虽然是靠队友拿的。不过，这幅老骨头熬到super bowl
也算不容易了。同时拿到NCAA Champ, SB ring, Heisman trophy的人本来就不多了。
唯一落下的SB MVP，没拿到。但是估计也无憾了。再打两年，退休做教练或者做个解说
就算了。 |
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s********k
发帖数: 6180 | 33 哪位是同时拿到NCAA Champ, Heisman trophy，SB ring,，SB MVP，
MVP？有没有全拿完的？
super bowl
本来就不多了。
者做个解说 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 34 desmond howard拿过heisman+sb mvp, 全拿的估计没有把 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 35 补充一下他拿过的：Heisman trophy,NCAA National Championship, NFL Rookie of
the year, NFL Defensive player of the year, Superbowl ring |
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H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 36 Cincinnati quarterback Carson Palmer has decided to retire instead of
returning to the Bengals, Coach Marvin Lewis said Tuesday.
In a news conference to answer questions heading into to training camp,
Lewis said that the Bengals will pursue a veteran quarterback to help ease
the transition to the pros for rookie Andy Dalton. Palmer’s brother, Jordan
, is also competing for the starting quarterback job.
Bengals owner Mike Brown has made it clear that Carson Palmer will play for
the Bengals this s... 阅读全帖 |
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H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 37 HOUSTON (AP)—The Houston Texans have agreed to terms with backup
quarterback Matt Leinart(notes).
Houston signed Leinart to a one-year deal in September 2010, but the 2004
Heisman Trophy winner didn’t take a snap during the season and the Texans
drafted North Carolina quarterback T.J. Yates(notes) in the fifth round.
Yates worked with incumbent starter Matt Schaub(notes) and backup Dan
Orlovsky(notes) during the lockout.
A person with knowledge of Leinart’s decision confirmed the deal Wednesday,... 阅读全帖 |
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l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 38 charlie ward: college football heisman winner and NBA player |
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a****d
发帖数: 282 | 39 Lions的欲火焚身，对不起，浴火重生从Millen抱成一团，圆润地离开正式拉开了序幕
。Millen的前左膀右臂，Martin Mayhew和Tom Lewand分别晋升球队总经理和总裁 - 有
人问了，这不是换汤不换药么？其实不然，前面提过 Millen最是刚愎自用，坊间的传
言是他向来听不进别人的意见，Mayhew和Lewand的也不例外。现在三年多过去了，随着
球队在两人的领导下步入正轨，我想把Lions那些年的失败全部推到Millen身上纵然不
是100%公平，大概也是八九不离十罢。
俗话说，Front Office是一支球队的灵魂。Mayhew一上任就来了个大手笔，趁着Roy
Williams尚有几分姿色把他打包送到 Cowboys那里换来第一轮和第三轮选秀权各一个（
Cowboys一定肠子都悔青了）。之后的各种草稿（Stafford，Suh，Delmas，Pettigrew
），交易（C. Williams，Scheffler）和自由球员的签约（Vanden Bosch，Burleson）
，无不表明了这是一个头脑正常，甚至还颇有些许精明的管理层！
确定了Front Of... 阅读全帖 |
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w******e
发帖数: 1621 | 40 转自wiki,真不知道lz在说什么.
In his first collegiate game as a redshirt freshman against James Madison in
1999, Vick scored three rushing touchdowns in just over one quarter of play.
During the season, Vick led a last-minute game-winning drive against West
Virginia in the annual Black Diamond Trophy game. He led the Hokies to an 11
–0 season and to the Bowl Championship Series national title game in the
Nokia Sugar Bowl against Florida State.
Although Virginia Tech lost 46–29, Vick was able to bring the t... 阅读全帖 |
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w******e
发帖数: 1621 | 41 承认Vick在NFL还没有任何球队层面上得成就什么。
但Vick在college的成就是配得上#1 draft pick的。尤其是第一年。
undefeated regular season
NC game
No.1 in passing efficiency
3nd place in Heisman
ESPY Award
Vick的rushing能力就不用多说了
你还想要一个 Freshman QB 干嘛？？
关于NFL,Vick还是有不少QB rushing 的记录（其实是绝大部分记录）。 |
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x****u
发帖数: 262 | 42 Charles Ward
Heisman winner
megatron |
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 43 就是想要RGIII人家也不来了.
The agent for Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III denied the team's
request to hold a private workout with his client. |
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 44 Andrew Luck may be gone from Stanford, but his name will live on as part of
the school's football program.
Stanford announced Tuesday an anonymous donor had endowed the position of
offensive coordinator in honor of the former quarterback.
The position currently held by Pep Hamilton will now be known as the Andrew
Luck Director of Offense.
Endowing positions in the Stanford athletic department is common practice,
but is usually reserved for head coaches and the athletics director. The
official ti... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 45 USC的， USC的QB确实不能选，主要是那些年USC球队整体太强了，Heisman一个接一个
，对方每个位置都要防守，QB压力太小了，本来一个5yards的short pass,到Reggie
bush手上可能就是76yards的TD，本来是应该被Int的，传出去就成Jump ball 45yards
TD了，Palmer算好的了，Leinart,Sanchez就很一般 |
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p****s
发帖数: 3153 | 46 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated_cover_jinx
last one:
November 13, 2012: Kansas State University quarterback Collin Klein is
featured on the cover, the week after Kansas State reached #1 in the BCS
standings for the first time in school history. At the time, the team was a
serious contender to play in the national title game, and Klein himself was
a front-runner for the Heisman Trophy. The following Saturday, Kansas State
put up its worst game of the year, getting blown out at Bay... 阅读全帖 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 47 According to Twitter. Everyone see this coming, but when it actually about
to happen, you still drop your jaw at awe. How cruel is this NFL business? I
really hate to see a legend go, but business is business. He will be a lock
of first ballot HOF, right?
You can talk all day about his magical plays, Heisman pose, locker room
leadership. But what impressed me most about Woodson is his off field
charity work. Money is where your heart is, and Woodson put it at the best
place. I think he made more... 阅读全帖 |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 48 If Matt Barkley had the defense that Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer had,
Matt Barkley would have won the Heisman Trophy just like they did. He would
have had the winning records they had.
拿2loser出来做模板，还说比不过这2，诚心给巴克利填堵不是？ |
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发帖数: 4270 | 49 Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu, who was kicked off the team just
months after becoming a Heisman Trophy finalist, reportedly told at least
one NFL team that he failed so many drug tests in college that he couldn’t
even remember them all.
An assistant coach for an NFL team told Jarrett Bell of USA Today that when
that team interviewed Mathieu, he was asked how many drug tests he had
failed in college.
“I quit counting at 10,” Mathieu answered. “I really don’t know.”
The assistant who passed... 阅读全帖 |
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 50 最可笑的是前一阵子还有人说蛮滓能比RG3，运气，威神都强呢。
http://gamedayr.com/gamedayr/johnny-manziel-better-than-rgiii-a
One general manager said Manziel, the first freshman to win the Heisman,
will be better than the current crop of young athletic quarterbacks. He will
rival or be better than Robert Griffin III or Andrew Luck or Russell Wilson
. This, to me, sounds patently insane. But this general manager was not
alone.
Another said almost the same thing. “He could end up being a more accurate
passer than any of those ... 阅读全帖 |
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