b*****d
发帖数: 184 | 1 The advisory arm of Big 4 is providing consulting services to clients. They
usually hire students (accounting or other majors) from the same pool as
the consulting firms and are considered as competitive as consulting firms
from the same tier.
However, they are also different from the traditional consulting firms (the
usual suspects are Mck, BCG, Bain, Booz, IBM/PwC, Accenture, BearingPoint,
Deloitte, etc) from a few aspects.
I will do a quick comparison between the big 4 advisory arms and the | p**z
发帖数: 1311 | 2 Thanks for the post. I'd love to see how different is the day to day life in
both from a entry level staff's perspective.
And how would you rank these consulting firms?
MCK, BCG,Bain,Booz,IBM - 1st tier
BP, Accenture, Deloitte - 2nd tier?
When you say same pool of students, would it be grads from top10 MBA/
business schools? | a****j
发帖数: 1277 | | S*******n
发帖数: 493 | 4 很好的帖子，原来还有non-compete agreement一说。楼主能否也从准则上分析一下？
我记得好象XX准则，不记得是审计还是什么，对consulting services有定义还是要求
，复习CPA时瞥到过，不知道对advisory有什么限制。。。 | c****z
发帖数: 146 | 5 做的业务都不相同还能排顺序啊
Thanks for the post. I'd love to see how different is the day to day life in
both from a entry level staff's perspective.
And how would you rank these consulting firms?
MCK, BCG,Bain,Booz,IBM - 1st tier
BP, Accenture, Deloitte - 2nd tier?
When you say same pool of students, would it be grads from top10 MBA/
business schools?
【在 p**z 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the post. I'd love to see how different is the day to day life in
: both from a entry level staff's perspective.
: And how would you rank these consulting firms?
: MCK, BCG,Bain,Booz,IBM - 1st tier
: BP, Accenture, Deloitte - 2nd tier?
: When you say same pool of students, would it be grads from top10 MBA/
: business schools?
| r******r
发帖数: 113 | | z*********y
发帖数: 11 | 7 ibm啥时候都first tier了，起码和后面那几家做的是一样的事情吧
in
【在 p**z 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the post. I'd love to see how different is the day to day life in
: both from a entry level staff's perspective.
: And how would you rank these consulting firms?
: MCK, BCG,Bain,Booz,IBM - 1st tier
: BP, Accenture, Deloitte - 2nd tier?
: When you say same pool of students, would it be grads from top10 MBA/
: business schools?
| e**********o
发帖数: 42 | 8 Very inspirational post, thank you so much! | b*****d
发帖数: 184 | 9 The consulting firms are often ranked by reputation, selectivity, and their
employees' long term career potential....
The elite companies are Mck, BCG, Bain, followed by Monitor, Mercer...
Tier 2 firms are Accenture, Deloitte, BearingPoint, IBM, etc (not in any
particular order)
Tier 1 companies are more selective. Their feeder schools are Ivy League
schools (especially HPY) plus best public schools. For MBA, they do most of
the hirings from top 5 MBA programs (very limited recruiting outside
【在 p**z 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the post. I'd love to see how different is the day to day life in
: both from a entry level staff's perspective.
: And how would you rank these consulting firms?
: MCK, BCG,Bain,Booz,IBM - 1st tier
: BP, Accenture, Deloitte - 2nd tier?
: When you say same pool of students, would it be grads from top10 MBA/
: business schools?
| c****z
发帖数: 146 | 10 我觉得你这样分consulting firm太笼统了。
整个consulting industry有如此多的service line。你这个Tier 1, Tier 2是指单纯
的strategy consulting吧。但是如果是这样的话。Accenture还根本排不上Tier 2。
The consulting firms are often ranked by reputation, selectivity, and their
employees' long term career potential....
The elite companies are Mck, BCG, Bain, followed by Monitor, Mercer...
Tier 2 firms are Accenture, Deloitte, BearingPoint, IBM, etc (not in any
particular order)
Tier 1 companies are more selective. Their feeder schools are Ivy League
s
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: The consulting firms are often ranked by reputation, selectivity, and their
: employees' long term career potential....
: The elite companies are Mck, BCG, Bain, followed by Monitor, Mercer...
: Tier 2 firms are Accenture, Deloitte, BearingPoint, IBM, etc (not in any
: particular order)
: Tier 1 companies are more selective. Their feeder schools are Ivy League
: schools (especially HPY) plus best public schools. For MBA, they do most of
: the hirings from top 5 MBA programs (very limited recruiting outside
| | | b*****d
发帖数: 184 | 11 I don't rank them...these are generally accepted by the consulting community
. These are large consulting firms that cover multiple industries...not
including boutique firms.
Here is the list of 2009 top 25 management consulting firms ranked by Vault:
1 McKinsey & Company
2 The Boston Consulting Group, Inc.
3 Bain & Company
4 Booz & Company
5 Monitor Group
6 Mercer LLC
7 Deloitte Consulting LLP
8 Oliver Wyman
9 PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
10 L.E.K. Consulting
11
【在 c****z 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你这样分consulting firm太笼统了。
: 整个consulting industry有如此多的service line。你这个Tier 1, Tier 2是指单纯
: 的strategy consulting吧。但是如果是这样的话。Accenture还根本排不上Tier 2。
:
: The consulting firms are often ranked by reputation, selectivity, and their
: employees' long term career potential....
: The elite companies are Mck, BCG, Bain, followed by Monitor, Mercer...
: Tier 2 firms are Accenture, Deloitte, BearingPoint, IBM, etc (not in any
: particular order)
: Tier 1 companies are more selective. Their feeder schools are Ivy League
| c****z
发帖数: 146 | 12 恩。Vault估计根据对于个人职业的好坏来排名的。
community
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: I don't rank them...these are generally accepted by the consulting community
: . These are large consulting firms that cover multiple industries...not
: including boutique firms.
: Here is the list of 2009 top 25 management consulting firms ranked by Vault:
: 1 McKinsey & Company
: 2 The Boston Consulting Group, Inc.
: 3 Bain & Company
: 4 Booz & Company
: 5 Monitor Group
: 6 Mercer LLC
| l*******2
发帖数: 791 | 13 I do only care how many of them would give H-1b holder worker opportunity.
Frankly speaking, I need opportunity as an international student here (I don
't care GC and I don't plan to become a permanent resident here)or I will go
back to China ASAP. | S*******n
发帖数: 493 | | b*****d
发帖数: 184 | 15 Many of them hire F1 students.
At least the following campanies hired international students in the past...
not sure about their current policies...
Mck
Bain
Accenture
Deloitte
E&Y
KPMG
BearingPoint
A.T. Kearney
Capgemini
PwC
Hewitt Associates
don
go
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: I do only care how many of them would give H-1b holder worker opportunity.
: Frankly speaking, I need opportunity as an international student here (I don
: 't care GC and I don't plan to become a permanent resident here)or I will go
: back to China ASAP.
| c******s
发帖数: 61 | 16 American Big 4 advisory is mostly IT/system/HR consulting with very small
and unreputable strategic consulting. So it's not a very feasible option for
Chinese, especially accounting students.
ERS which is part of the accounting firm is a good opotion after a couple of
years of audit experience. |
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