L***s
发帖数: 2944 | 1 说是New Exploratory Development (Type 1) R21 up to the 15.0 percentile will
be paid.
得了16%。
不知道有没有申请这个的？ |
f****b
发帖数: 314 | 2 it seems you are getting close |
L***s
发帖数: 2944 | 3 有没有达人也申请这个的？
16%是不是一点戏都没有了？
【在 f****b 的大作中提到】
: it seems you are getting close
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 4 If you are a new PI, converted to an R01 and you will get more funding and
more years if you got 16% at R21 review (you do know R21 has way lower
payline than R01). Getting R21 for new PI is a curse, IMO, not a good thing
. |
m*****u
发帖数: 27 | 5 What is your priotity score for the 16% R21? Thanks. |
l****l
发帖数: 42 | 6 Do you mean to have a R21 will negatively impact the chance for future R01
for a new PI? Could you elaborate in a bit more detail?
I have two R21 pending in NCI and one of them looks promising.
thing
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: If you are a new PI, converted to an R01 and you will get more funding and
: more years if you got 16% at R21 review (you do know R21 has way lower
: payline than R01). Getting R21 for new PI is a curse, IMO, not a good thing
: .
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 7 Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
(just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know |
m*****u
发帖数: 27 | 8 R21 will NOT wipe your new investigator status for sure. |
f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 9 R21 doesn't affect NI/ESI status.
new PI
away,
payline
low
can
after R21.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
: years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
: and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
: reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
: for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
: (just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
: get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 10 Weird, a guy from NIH told me not to apply for R21 at all, just go for R01.
Well, I am wrong. |
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v******d
发帖数: 1939 | 11 A few points are inaccurate. Contact your NIH program director.
new PI
away,
payline
is low
can
go after R21.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
: years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
: and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
: reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
: for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
: (just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
: get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know
|
f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 12 There is some truth to that.. Given the success rate is so low, it is
actually easier for new investigators to get R01 funded with the ~5 pts
break.
Also, 2-year R21 cannot bring stability to a new lab.
R01.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Weird, a guy from NIH told me not to apply for R21 at all, just go for R01.
: Well, I am wrong.
|
l****l
发帖数: 42 | 13 Guys, thanks for the discussions. I believe one point for NI to apply R21 is
that it does not need very extensive preliminary data. A novel idea seems
to be more important than solid logistics. Anyway, I agree it is tough since
the payline is so low. The FY10 NCI payline is 15% for both R01 and R21. It
is 20% for R01 for NI. Unfortunately,this does not apply to R21. |
p*l
发帖数: 1359 | 14 I know several new PIs got multiple R21s. I don't think NIH is against new
PI applying for R21. But if you have reasonable preliminary data, don't
waste time on R21. R21 is so hard, it isn't an ideal entry point for new PI.
My institute's pay line is even lower. I heard NIH now instructs study
panel to give considerations to new PIs. I don't know how much difference it
will make. |
m*****e
发帖数: 333 | 15 A totally wrong message! Receiving R21 will not change the new investigator
status.
In addition, before you apply R01, make sure you have enough preliminary
data to show the very possible success of the project. R21, on the other
hand, supports bold ideas.
PI
payline
low
after R21.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
: years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
: and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
: reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
: for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
: (just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
: get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know
|
l********g
发帖数: 400 | 16 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
PI
payline
low
after R21.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
: years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
: and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
: reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
: for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
: (just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
: get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know
|
l********g
发帖数: 400 | 17 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
PI
payline
low
after R21.
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
: years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
: and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
: reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
: for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
: (just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
: get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know
|
f****b
发帖数: 314 | 18 Be nice. I think he is a good guy and did give us a lot of good suggestions
which should be encouraged.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
:
: PI
: payline
: low
: after R21.
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 19 Thanks, I will, but I will still only go for R01 personally. I am damn and
don't have ground breaking ideas...cries.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
:
: PI
: payline
: low
: after R21.
|
l*******s
发帖数: 3562 | 20 damn or dumb？
and
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, I will, but I will still only go for R01 personally. I am damn and
: don't have ground breaking ideas...cries.
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | |
f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 22 Did you talk to your PO?
【在 L***s 的大作中提到】
: 有没有达人也申请这个的？
: 16%是不是一点戏都没有了？
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