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John Springer • 14 hours ago
Just read how Russia built second pipeline to China and no longer using
dollars , but petro yuans and rubles. We can no longer simply use threat of
sanctions and tariffs. We can negotiate but must treat our peers, even those
who see the world differently, as participants or we will fail.
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Orange Juice John Springer • an hour ago
Who will buy our debt if we upset China? Trump arranged for record deficits
and he's trying to bully the people who loan him the money. We are on the
hook to China for 1.8 trillion as it stands...
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John Springer Orange Juice • an hour ago
Well the Social Security trust fund is awash in federal bonds we sell
ourselves
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pbgd • 14 hours ago
Kim seeking help from China comes after Trump seeking help from China. This
will certainly magnify China's role as the peacemaker of Asia. As China's
president Xi stated, China does not want military action 'at its doorstep'.
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Chupacabra pbgd • 13 hours ago
Everyone seeks help. The question is will China contribute to a peaceful
planet or just build more artificial islands to claim more territory for
themselves at the expense of weaker nations? What do you think pbgd?
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oliwayne Chupacabra • 2 hours ago
Isn't that what the United States did/is doing with it's containment policy?
However, the U.S. didn't build artificial islands.
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Orange Juice pbgd • 2 hours ago
“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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kaymichigan1 • 14 hours ago
Guess they've decided they don't need the US in the picture.
"Oh, Donald, are you still here? Go run along now and play some golf. The
adults are talking."
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Summer Tyme kaymichigan1 • 14 hours ago
Maybe he can take "credit" for it.
If China begins actively helping NK's atomic program - which would be
penultimate revenge for the 'trade' war.
Trump can take credit for that too.
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LastSecondTakedown kaymichigan1 • 2 hours ago
Odd statement. So, any time two other countries leaders meet - they are
deciding they don't need the US? So, if England and France met, that
automatically means they don't need the US? Where do you come up with this?
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Tracy LastSecondTakedown • 23 minutes ago
Except for the fact we aren't trying to enforce sanctions on England or
France. You're trying to compare apples to oranges again....NK is playing a
game and getting leverage for their upcoming talks with the US.
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Your Worst Nightmare • 14 hours ago
Apparently Kim met with the Chinese leader Xi. As long as NK is a thorn in
our side and requires us to spend billions to defend them, China will
support them. China will also not tolerate a democratic country next to its
border so It will resist a unified Korea.
Putin will sit on the sidelines and benefit without lifting a finger. And
there is nothing Trump can do because Putin gains nothing by helping us.
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Summer Tyme Your Worst Nightmare • 14 hours ago
Anything Trump could do would be idiotic and make things worse... except of
course, resign and turn the job over to an adult.
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Lance Your Worst Nightmare • 10 hours ago
Exactly. China’s strategic goal is to frustrate the U.S. and maintain a
permanent division of the Korean peninsula.
North Korea serves as a “buffer state” for China between the U.S., South
Korea and Japan.
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PaulCrozer Your Worst Nightmare • an hour ago
It's like a chess game being played by Gary Kasporaov (China) vs. Gomer Pyle
(Trump).
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Tracy PaulCrozer • 27 minutes ago
Don't insult Gomer Pyle!
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Tertulliano • 14 hours ago
I know who is jealous.
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Summer Tyme • 14 hours ago
Thanks Trump! - signed Dear Leader # 1 to dear leader # 2.
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mm • 14 hours ago
I don't see any world leaders as being truly trustworthy, maybe S Korea but
that's about it.
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Peter Warlock • 14 hours ago
Tяump☭ sends congrats to both, for their unanimous election wins as
president for life.
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Orange Juice Peter Warlock • an hour ago
Maybe they will do the same for him someday.
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Abuck 60 • 13 hours ago
LOL! Kim had to travel 5 hours to Bejing and back in the same day after
meeting with XI Jinping without letting anyone know he left the country.....
or he would have come home to a new leader in charge.
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Rabbit2011 Abuck 60 • 3 hours ago
It said he spent Sunday through Wednesday there.
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pbgd • 13 hours ago
Kim is petrified of being assassinated. That is why the Chinese were not
allowed to confirm the visit until Kim was back in North Korea.
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The 84th Panther pbgd • 11 hours ago
KJU is also terrified of a coup back home while he is away.
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Oh Really Now The 84th Panther • 10 hours ago
Too bad it didn’t happen.
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Peter Warlock • 13 hours ago
Up next, South Korea and Japan acquire their own nukes. SK has 25 nuclear
reactors; Japan has enough plutonium for 6,000 atomic bombs. These nations
will quit their dependency on the USA.. because Tяump☭ is not
reliable.
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Chupacabra Peter Warlock • 13 hours ago
It sure would be nice if they would defend themselves.
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Terry Stein Chupacabra • 13 hours ago
You know, they wouldn't have to worry about any of this crap if it weren't
for the US giving NK away to Russians after the War in the first place.
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Betty Bloop Chupacabra • 13 hours ago
when we find that they don't need us, they won't need to be our ally either.
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okiejoe Peter Warlock • 12 hours ago
Unfortunately it's all spread around the Fukushima area.
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mik8888 • 13 hours ago
Looks like Kim is getting China on their wavelength, and obliquely
pressuring Donald on the upcoming talks...dat Kim is smart cookie...
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Robin • 13 hours ago
I wonder if Donnie is thinking his invitation got lost in the mail.
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Markeetta Robin • 13 hours ago
Lol lol now he can't brag thst he met with Kim first
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snake • 13 hours ago
Kims visit to China is a warning to Trump that tariffs on China will have
consequences. Trump will get more than a trade war.
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Aunty Fah-Fah • 13 hours ago
The family crest features three extended arms; one holds a fascio of lawn
grass, one hand holds a hat, the third, nicknamed "Bubba", holds a nuke and
Chivas on the rocks.
Bet he's on the cover of Time in six months.
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Abuck 60 Guest • 12 hours ago
trump needs to be sedated until after the elections.
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Smarter Then You Guest • 12 hours ago
No, seriously.
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Abuck 60 • 12 hours ago
It's looking like the big dog is barking and both Kim Jung Un and donald
trump will have to go to Bejing and bow down to Xi Jinping to bless their
union.
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RG • 12 hours ago
The WH is anxious to spin this as progress achieved by their "maximum
pressure." This may be true or maybe they are being totally outplayed by NK
and China. We won't know until if and when NK actually does give up its
nukes. A bonus would be for KIM to be overthrown and get to spend the rest
of his life in one of his prison camps.
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Smarter Then You • 12 hours ago
Didn’t these guys send us a vegetative ex-prisoner? I think we are owed for
that one.
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Badger land 2 • 12 hours ago
I think trump wanted to meet with Kim Jong Un just to see if he knows any
good lawyers....
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Joe james Badger land 2 • 12 hours ago
No one will be his lawyer because theyll never get paid. Pretty sad when
large fims in the usa are turning him down. Thats the insider word on the
streets.
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okiejoe Joe james • 12 hours ago
There's always Legal Aid and they're free.
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Jrducky okiejoe • 6 hours ago
Only if their income is low. Trump wouldn’t meet their guidelines.
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ralphpetrillo • 12 hours ago
They are controlled by China. It is so pathetic that they do not unite Korea
. The North Koreans have very little to look forward to. How many more years
will this conflict continue for. South Korea is prosperous while North
Korea wants aid.
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Independent Cacodemon • 12 hours ago
I wonder what keeps the Chinese from just making Kim disappear. They could
then install their own puppet, who would ratchet down tensions on the
peninsula while providing the buffer zone that China wants from the West.
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Smarter Then You Independent Cacodemon • 12 hours ago
Who’s to say that he isn’t a puppet to them already?
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mtntrek3 • 12 hours ago
It would be excellent if so, but Un agreeing to denuclearize the Korean
peninsula sounds too good to be true. Time will tell.
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Q~ • 11 hours ago
Kim Jong-un's first trip out to meet with a foreign head of state. I wonder
if Trump wanted the first go for bragging rights.
First meeting with South Korea officials two weeks ago. Stuff is happening.
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lou g • 11 hours ago
I wonder if Trump is upset that Kim visited China before Trump and Kim meet?
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GreensKeeper Maralago lou g • 11 hours ago
This was most certainly the reason Asia did this and it can be guaranteed
Drumpf lost his S over it.
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empirewacksback lou g • 11 hours ago
I'd be more worried if he didn't meet with China.
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Jrducky lou g • 6 hours ago
That goes without saying!
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Bill • 11 hours ago
Trump should be very nervous about this. What was the meeting about? Why
wasn't Trump invited? Hmmm.
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Steve1956 Bill • 5 hours ago
Trump wasn't invited because the meeting was for grown ups only, no children
allowed.
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empirewacksback • 11 hours ago
Kim: Is he crazy?
Xi: We haven't determined that yet.
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Oh Really Now empirewacksback • 10 hours ago
Kim: You got my back, right?
Xi: ....(crickets)..yes, for now.
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rainaelf • 11 hours ago
i just can't believe it's been twenty years already. :/
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oldschool • 11 hours ago
I wonder why he did not fly?
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Lance oldschool • 10 hours ago
The distinctive olive green train with yellow stripes is similar to that
used by Kim’s father, Kim Jong-il, when he visited China in 2011.
He is making a statement by using the train.
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BobbyBarker oldschool • 2 hours ago
(a) he fears flying
(b) have you ever seen what passes for commercial air travel in NK? It's BAD.
(c) more wine and strippers can be loaded onto his custom-made bulletproof
train.
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Enough Already • 10 hours ago
This comes fairly quickly after starting a trade war with China
I do not know if we can count on getting much help from China anymore on NK
once this trade war in full swing
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adamrussell • 10 hours ago
Seems obvious why. He wants confirmation that China will support NK in the
event of the rumored US plans to attack.
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RedSoxPatriotsCelticsBruinsFan • 10 hours ago
looks like trump just united china with north korea, I imagine south korea
will be next.
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Dharren4466 • 9 hours ago
Has anyone considered Kims dream may be as simple as being recognized as a
leader of a country with equal standing to other world leaders (in his mind)
and a face to face with the American president is giving him just that? He
may be seeing this as all a great win for himself.
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I AM INSPIRED • 9 hours ago
I wondered why there were 100 Chinese warships in the China Sea this weekend
. Explains it.
Trump should be concerned about his upcoming "meeting" with Kim.
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Your Worst Nightmare • 9 hours ago
"China claims Kim Jong Un has agreed to denuclearize Korean Peninsula"
There were a lot of "if's" in the official statement.
I would expect that this will come to pass about the same time that Trump
starts acting Presidential.
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Former Earthling • 9 hours ago
A Commie dictator visiting another commie dictator. No surprise here.
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Joe Mac Pherson • 9 hours ago
If the unfortunate souls living in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
, were actually allowed to travel South of the border, they'd never return.
If North Korea is such a Communist Worker's Paradise, why do North Korean
troops shoot anyone trying to leave?
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mtntrek3 • 9 hours ago
Personally I don't trust Xi, nor Un. Donald, um... not so much either. ...
Ah, we'll see. Smh.
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askew • 7 hours ago
a long way to go for Chinese food
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ruelph • 7 hours ago
This is a warning from China to Trump, don't mess with us.
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Impetus ruelph • 6 hours ago
Probably. It's also probably too subtle for Trump to get. I mean sure, by
diplomatic standards it's loud and clear, but he doesn't pay much attention
to the State Department so...
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ToothyGrinn • 7 hours ago
It took more than six years to pry Kimmi boy off his PS2 to visit another
country?
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LynnMartin • 7 hours ago
NK borders on Russia and China, Kim will get agreement with them that they
will come to NKs aid if the US were to invade after a denuke deal.
No one smart would ever trust the USA. Look what happened to Libya. They
removed nukes, got a guarantee there would never be an invasion. Then got
invaded via Obama and their leader killed.
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Kathy • 5 hours ago
He looked visibly uncomfortable in the video. He's in a tough spot and he
knows it. Who knows where this will end up but things are going to change.
On that I have no doubt.
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Kathy • 5 hours ago
China does not want conflict in the region, they also do not want
reunification where a more 'western' friendly country such as SK can take
hold that would then share a border with China. It will be fascinating to
see how each positions themselves.
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Realpshep • 5 hours ago
Kim is up to something. The only country to give up their nukes was S.
Africa, and they did that willingly, not due to outside pressure. N. Korea
ain't giving up thier only bargaining chip. They'll dangle that proposition
to get concessions all the while keeping them.
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ruelph • 4 hours ago
The White House is now trying to take credit for the meeting. The White
House is claiming that their pressure on North Korea forced a meeting
between China and North Korea. Really, they are forgetting history, China
and North Korea have been allies since the 50s and China's number one
mission is to remove the U.S. from the region.
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Bill William ruelph • 3 hours ago
Exactly, it is China that keeps No Korea from falling into complete
bankruptcy. They are meeting to form a united front against the US, is my
guess. However, No Korea needs to come out of the stone age.
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Bill William • 3 hours ago
Both are communist countries and have been allies for decades. Trump just
imposed large tariffs on Chinese imports and at the same time has tried to
put a choke hold on No.Korea. My guess is that both countries are meeting to
try and figure out how to maintain their bond and unite against the U. S.
No. Korea has to come out of the dark ages and needs China's help.
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Hank R • 3 hours ago
Is it simply a coincidence that Kim met with President Xi Jinping now?
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Aaron Sacks Hank R • 3 hours ago
Kim is running out of money to pay those that help keep him in power. He
rules by force, fear and fear of force.
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Hank R Aaron Sacks • 3 hours ago
I also wonder if he is finding it impossible to stop NK citizens from using
the internet to see what does on outside the hermit nation. Perhaps the NK
Olympians are also letting people know what it was like in their southern
neighbor.
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Aaron Sacks Hank R • 2 hours ago
Imagine your internet viewing options reduced to state approved news and
sites dedicated how wonderful NK is and how bad the US is. Of course there’
s only a very small portion of the citizenry that’s allowed to have
internet access.
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Hank R Aaron Sacks • 2 hours ago
That is true. I wonder if the NK people are learning how to get around the
censorship though. Not saying they are but it is possible.
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Tertulliano Hank R • 3 hours ago
I think he went to renew their internet connection lease.
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Rabbit2011 • 3 hours ago
Does it matter what Sarah Sanders says about anything? I don't believe one
word she says.
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Bill William Rabbit2011 • 3 hours ago
That is my opinion, why do those reporters even bother with those useless
meetings with her?
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FlorMedDoc • 3 hours ago
Thanks to Trump the U.S. has become marginalized with China now becoming the
rising power in the world.
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Bill William FlorMedDoc • 3 hours ago
China is a powerful nation yet we worry about Russia which is a third world
nation.
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Hank R Bill William • 3 hours ago
Just curious: Have you looked at the modern Russian aircraft and compared
them to ours? Their armor and artillery? How about their modern SAM systems?
Underestimating a potential enemy is a sure way to lose needless lives if we
ever have to fight them.
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Tertulliano Hank R • 3 hours ago
Their number of aircraft carriers is to be known as one.
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Hank R Tertulliano • 3 hours ago
Actually, none. How would an aircraft carrier help the Russians push west
through Europe?
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srichey321 Bill William • 3 hours ago
A third world nation with nukes, a strong military and a capable leader.
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Jack25 srichey321 • 2 hours ago
And a US President in their pocket.
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Verity Pendelton srichey321 • 2 hours ago
Russia's military is in decay - has been for decades. It's all show with
Putin. He is using technology to create his narrative. And it's working.
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ruelph Bill William • 14 minutes ago
No one considers Russia to be a third world country, especially since Russia
can destroy both China and the U.S. with its nuclear weapons. Russia's
military is rated number two globally behind the U.S. Most importantly,
Russia and China see eye to eye on most of the issues affecting the world.
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MAPGO59 • 2 hours ago
Old Donald trumped by China ;)
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Renee Marie West • 2 hours ago
"The issue of denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula can be resolved, if
South Korea and the United States respond to our efforts with goodwill,
create an atmosphere of peace and stability while taking progressive and
synchronous measures for the realization of peace," said President Kim Jong-
un.
I second that. I'm sure President Xi Jinping does, also.
It's not important for world leaders to like each other. It is important for
them to both like denuclearization.
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Tom Hayes • 2 hours ago
You know that face you make when you are forced to take a picture with that
uncle that nobody likes, that's the same face Xi is making.
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aarfc Tom Hayes • 2 hours ago
I was thinking that. Glad you said it.
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kritikosman • 2 hours ago
Has Trump found a way to claim he facilitated this yet?
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Jack25 kritikosman • 2 hours ago
Spokesperson saying that he brought Kim to the table. Delusional.
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Orange Juice • 2 hours ago
Kim is just working out a nuke storage rental agreement. China can protect
NK and let it seem like the US has won something so Trump has a way out that
boosts his ego. They know that flattery gets you everywhere with Trump and
that American politics are more interested in optics than actions.
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Dwight Francis david • 2 hours ago
Kim getting his marching orders from xi- please China has plenty nukes and a
five million man army
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Jake the real Jake • 2 hours ago
Kim & Xi are playing 3D Chess against their opponent Trump while Trump is
playing Checkers and thinks he can win! Rots of Ruck Trump!
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Orange Juice Jake the real Jake • 2 hours ago
Checkers is giving too much credit, Trump is playing Go Fish.
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notagain Orange Juice • 2 hours ago
You give Trump way too much credit.
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Orange Juice notagain • 2 hours ago
Yeah, I can see your point but Tic-Tac-Toe isn't basic enough either.
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Verity Pendelton • 2 hours ago
Well, Trump has done what no one else could ever do - create North Korea as
having an international and important presence on the world stage - what an
idiot.
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newz4i • an hour ago
Did FOX notify Trump this visit was happening?
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Orange Juice newz4i • an hour ago
The entire cast of FOX and Friends will soon have cabinet positions. I wish
this was a joke...
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Aaron Sacks Orange Juice • an hour ago
Judge Jeanine has been jockeying for a job. No other lawyers want to work
for him.
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newz4i Orange Juice • an hour ago
FOX is sorry Roger Ailes isn't around. He'd be VPOTUS.
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J.s. • an hour ago
This hopefully is good news for the US and the world. I just appreciate the
strong leadership of Trump in this entire matter.
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mtntrek3 • an hour ago
Un running to daddy for advice and protection. .... Somehow not seeing a
good outcome from this meeting.
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End of Life Ritual • an hour ago
Kim is crawling out of his hole because even Pyongyang is beginning to
collapse under the weight of withering sanctions, and the nuclear program he
's so fond of has drained what resources they had while yielding precious
little results.
I don't think this is about Trump, but Kim isn't going to deal with the
Donald because it would look terrible on the home front. Talking with their
ancestral brothers in Seoul though? Talking with their benefactors in China?
That's acceptable.
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J.s. • an hour ago
Just read the comments and it is clear the liberals are bothered by these
events. Look at all of the cheap childless cheap shots at our president.
Even you liberals should take a breathe and hope Trump, China, South Korea,
North Korea can solve this nasty problem and make the world a better place.
Your hatred of Trump is not serving our nation well or it is serving your
cause well. It is starting to backfire on the press and the Trump haters.
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mtntrek3 J.s. • an hour ago
I hope for better, indeed. Yet... apprehensive and time will tell.
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Orange Juice J.s. • an hour ago
Who created the nasty problem?
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Orange Juice Guest • an hour ago
Breitbart also uses Disqus message boards.
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BassPlyr73 Again • an hour ago
Hopefully the world will take this apparent opportunity, and finally resolve
this situation.
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Realpshep • an hour ago
China likes N. Korea just the way it is. It's the perfect buffer between
America loving S.Korea
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TexasVulcan Realpshep • an hour ago
I think China would be happier without a nuclear armed N. Korea. But they
certainly don't want any Korean reunification.
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Realpshep TexasVulcan • an hour ago
That's a reasonable view
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JohnC • an hour ago
I do hope Trump will be patient and knows this could take several months or
more to negotiate something. I fear a bit he Kim will push back and Trump
will get frustrated and ultimately launch an attack after he thinks
negotiations have failed. You can't declare failure too soon
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HamburgerHelperAgain JohnC • an hour ago
If Trump thinks he can do "The art of the deal" he's mistaken.
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Nick • an hour ago
I always said the Trump presidency could be good for three reasons, first it
will make Americans pay attention during the next election, it will teach
the democrats to put forward more serious candidates that are not relatives
of past presidents and he can solve the N Korea problem. All-be-it some
might not like the way it is done. Clearly Since China's leader called Trump
as Kim's train was leaving The China capitol to brief Trump this shows
China is acting to help. I am very sure the deal is as follows, N Korea will
give up nuclear weapons and China will defend N Korea completely without
hesitation. There are only two problems: Kim might try to hide continued
nuclear weapons designing and building from China and second the USA might
over the next twenty years if we play our cards right get democracy into
china that would bring down their dictatorship rule of its communist system
there. The future is hard to predict, but really this could be good news,
but care must be taken, but since Pompeo does not trust anyone he is the
right person for the secretary of state.
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Joe • an hour ago
I so hope the fuhrer is embarrassed by the meeting of NK and China. Maybe
when they meet here 45 will be schooled.
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Riddler • 37 minutes ago
This is the first progress toward peace since the 1953 armistice. Yet, the
so-called peace and love, no nukes crowd, the radical leftest will do all
they can to undermine the negotiations because they are frauds. They would
rather have another 60 years of being on the verge of war in order to
promote their radical Marxist agenda. Thank God we have a great man of peace
in President Trump.
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Bill Riddler • 34 minutes ago
Sure Donald.
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Rafterman00 Riddler • 34 minutes ago
NK has always wanted a face to face with the US for DECADES. They want a
seat at the Big Boys table. But the US always said we wanted concrete
movement towards disarmament by NK first, before any meeting. But Chump was,
as usual, unaware of this and too eager to claim a win. Then his aides told
him what an idiot his is for jumping at NK's bait, which is why he
backtracked a day later with those "concrete steps" statements.
The reason we don't talk face to face with NK is because every time we get
an agreement from them, they extract their ransom (there's always a ransom
with NK), then in a few years, they go right back at agitating. Trump just
got played.
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Aaron Sacks Rafterman00 • 29 minutes ago
Yep, played like a cheap ukulele.
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ruelph Riddler • 30 minutes ago
We have seemed this dog and pony show before, again, China and North Korea
have been allies since the 50s and China's number one mission is to remove
the U.S. from the region.
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Your Worst Nightmare Riddler • 19 minutes ago
"First progress toward peace"
Another Trumper like Donnie who doesn't read or study history and believes
every word Trump says. This same game has been played for 60 years as you
say and people like you fall for it every time and give NK all kinds of
concessions. NK bankrupted itself to get nukes and now Donnie wants us to
believe they'll willingly give them up?
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Bill • 35 minutes ago
I see it as an end-run around Trump. Trump has no diplomatic skills and Peng
realizes he must formally intervene to prevent a nuclear war.
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knowledge n understanding Bill • 7 minutes ago
China always had ulterior motives.
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Kevin Smith • 30 minutes ago
President Trump has Korea running scared...Finally, we have a President that
gets things done.
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Rafterman00 Kevin Smith • 29 minutes ago
NK is playing him.
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Rafterman00 Guest • 23 minutes ago
Yeah, because I can't read the history of the last 60 years regarding how NK
has acted.
NK will NEVER give up the nukes, as they make NK Invasion proof.
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ruelph Guest • 23 minutes ago
And how is the U.S. going to prove that NK is getting rid of their nuclear
weapons? They don't allow anyone into their country to investigate them.
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