G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Translation 讨论区 】
发信人: fzr72725 (Ziru), 信区: Translation
标 题: 英文在我们和美国人脑子里的区别
关键字: 美国人的英文
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 8 11:55:52 2012, 美东)
昨天晚上bf在写一个essay,他问我知不知道affect和effect的区别，然后给了我几个句
子做例子，整个过程相当一个confusing...
一开始，他说，hey u know how different “effect” and "affect" r?
然后我by default地认为他在问二者作为动词的区别，就一通查，然后一通解释。
然后他说，oh ok, so---"the affect is pretty obvious?" i should use it like
this?
我一听就崩溃了，我说，那什么，原来你是要问作为名词该怎么用啊！？
然后他说，noun? noun means "something" right?
我继续石化，然后说，那我再查查啊，刚才跟你说的区别是作为动词的...
然后他问，so what is verb again? action?
我这个无语啊...
总算，我查清楚了名词的区别（affect似乎没有名词用法），一通解释。
然后他说,oh, so---"what the unit did seems effective",i should use it like
this?
我又崩溃了，我说，啊！你到底要问哪个词啊？effective是形容词！
然后他说，huh? what's adj? i know effective is another word, but it's from
effect, shouldn't it mean the same thing?
于是，我又开始查affective和effective的区别...
他的essay总算写完了，两个词（词源）的区别也搞清楚了。
我说，我真无语啊，你一个native speaker居然问我一个外国人这种问题...你上学的
时候不学语法么？
他说，of course i know how to write, i know the grammar...
我说，那你怎么名词，动词的基本概念都没有啊？
他说，that's cuz English is my first language, i know how to use it properly
without those marks, but for u, since it's ur second language, u need to
know the rules\marks first before u can use it, cuz to u guys, it's not a
natural thing...
我想了想，觉得很有道理，就像我们用中文，其实我们也没有一写作文就想：这个是动
词，这个是形容词云云...
以前从来没想过，英文在外国人和母语者脑子里，会有这种区别，觉得很有意思，就把
这个小事写出来了。
以前看过很多坛里面骂外f的，希望自己别中枪，其实很wish bf能说一口地道北京话（
我就北京的，哈哈），但没办法，他就不幸是一美国人，慢慢改造吧（有点跑题...咳
，就是希望这个单纯的感慨帖别被人认为是一个wsnv炫外f什么的……得，我不说了，
再说就是自己找抽了） |
M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 2 key words: native speaker 外国人
key sentence: 你一个native speaker居然问我一个外国人这种问题...你上学的时候
不学语法么？ |
G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 3 also a community college native speaker bf?
【在 M****7 的大作中提到】
: key words: native speaker 外国人
: key sentence: 你一个native speaker居然问我一个外国人这种问题...你上学的时候
: 不学语法么？
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M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 4 Does his academic background matter?
【在 G****a 的大作中提到】
: also a community college native speaker bf?
|
G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 5 i am just curious why wf wsnv always got fxxxed by those white trash
【在 M****7 的大作中提到】
: Does his academic background matter?
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M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 6 1. Try to know as many diverse background WF WSNVs as possible.
2. Record their personal information, e.g., hometown, birthday, highest
degree, major, salary, etc. depending on your experience, observation, and
imagination.
3. Then, run some regressions at home.
【在 G****a 的大作中提到】
: i am just curious why wf wsnv always got fxxxed by those white trash
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M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 7 Geisha: Probably, we can co-author one paper? |
M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 8 Look, calm down!
You only date drs, so these WF wsnvs' marriage/dating is none of your
business.
Go back to your research.
【在 G****a 的大作中提到】
: i am just curious why wf wsnv always got fxxxed by those white trash
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G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 9 for quick publication, we could pick some low impact factor journal. as to
the authorship, i volunteer to be the corresponding author 4 that ms
【在 M****7 的大作中提到】
: Geisha: Probably, we can co-author one paper?
|
M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 10 Funding for this breakthrough experiment???
【在 G****a 的大作中提到】
: for quick publication, we could pick some low impact factor journal. as to
: the authorship, i volunteer to be the corresponding author 4 that ms
|
G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 11 what's the estimated budget?
【在 M****7 的大作中提到】
: Funding for this breakthrough experiment???
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d**i
发帖数: 9682 | 12 很好很生动，外发总以为每个美国人都如自己发的那个这样文化程度低下。再加满篇的
蹩脚英文，吐了。。。
【在 G****a 的大作中提到】
: what's the estimated budget?
|
M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 13 要么光叔给个数.
【在 d**i 的大作中提到】
: 很好很生动，外发总以为每个美国人都如自己发的那个这样文化程度低下。再加满篇的
: 蹩脚英文，吐了。。。
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