e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 1 are stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers. They make money by
trading stocks, which bring virtually no contribution to the wellbeing of
the society. They suck up the wealth of the society by artificially
inflating and deflating the stock prices. They can do this not because they
are smarter, but because they have insider information and a big pile of
money. For those who hates parasites should focus on the banking system
reform, not just the welfare system. |
e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 2 You are not god and nobody is god. So save your moral judgement.
Every citizen in this society who does legal business and pays his fair
share of tax is a good citizen.
You are in no position to judge other people's career's moral value.
If there is any parasite here, those who can not stand other people's
success and dream to share other people's wealth are more parasite-like.
愿意贴大字报打倒资产阶级，去北韩吧，不要呆在这里。
they
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: are stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers. They make money by
: trading stocks, which bring virtually no contribution to the wellbeing of
: the society. They suck up the wealth of the society by artificially
: inflating and deflating the stock prices. They can do this not because they
: are smarter, but because they have insider information and a big pile of
: money. For those who hates parasites should focus on the banking system
: reform, not just the welfare system.
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e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 3 Insider trading is not legal BTW.
I respect and try to learn from successful people, especially those coming
out top from fair market competition and hard working. The unfair banking
system on the other hand is the root for sending so many people into
forclosure, even the welfare system.
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: You are not god and nobody is god. So save your moral judgement.
: Every citizen in this society who does legal business and pays his fair
: share of tax is a good citizen.
: You are in no position to judge other people's career's moral value.
: If there is any parasite here, those who can not stand other people's
: success and dream to share other people's wealth are more parasite-like.
: 愿意贴大字报打倒资产阶级，去北韩吧，不要呆在这里。
:
: they
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e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 4 我怎么打到资本主义啦？
don't put your words in my month!
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: You are not god and nobody is god. So save your moral judgement.
: Every citizen in this society who does legal business and pays his fair
: share of tax is a good citizen.
: You are in no position to judge other people's career's moral value.
: If there is any parasite here, those who can not stand other people's
: success and dream to share other people's wealth are more parasite-like.
: 愿意贴大字报打倒资产阶级，去北韩吧，不要呆在这里。
:
: they
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e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 5 If you know anybody does insider trading, you can write to SEC or DA's
office to report him. You do not come up to internet to point finger.
The current banking system is established by law, which was approved by the
people. It is every bit as legal and fair as Obama being elected as a
president. If people believe it is flawed, they push the legislature to
modified it, otherwise, they stick to it.
It seems you do not know the least bit of the banking system, yet you come
up here to blame it for
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: Insider trading is not legal BTW.
: I respect and try to learn from successful people, especially those coming
: out top from fair market competition and hard working. The unfair banking
: system on the other hand is the root for sending so many people into
: forclosure, even the welfare system.
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 6 enough with welfair. I corrected it.
What you are saying is that the recession we are experiencing is a normal
business cycle and we can't do anything about it, right?
I am not saying the unfair banking system caused the failure of the welfare
system. It is a fact that the failure of the banking system has sent many
people into the welfare system, e.g. extended unemployment benefits.
the
welfair
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: If you know anybody does insider trading, you can write to SEC or DA's
: office to report him. You do not come up to internet to point finger.
: The current banking system is established by law, which was approved by the
: people. It is every bit as legal and fair as Obama being elected as a
: president. If people believe it is flawed, they push the legislature to
: modified it, otherwise, they stick to it.
: It seems you do not know the least bit of the banking system, yet you come
: up here to blame it for
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 7 you watch my signature video, get educated a bit on how do we get here.
welfare
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: enough with welfair. I corrected it.
: What you are saying is that the recession we are experiencing is a normal
: business cycle and we can't do anything about it, right?
: I am not saying the unfair banking system caused the failure of the welfare
: system. It is a fact that the failure of the banking system has sent many
: people into the welfare system, e.g. extended unemployment benefits.
:
: the
: welfair
|
e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 8 Individual thinking is a burden and a dangerous thing to a liberal.
Do not expect too much from them.
When Dear Leader Obama calls for reforming healthcare, we calls for
reforming healthcare - when Dear Leader Obama calls for reforming banking
system, we calls for reforming banking system. That's what we do.
Our Dear Leader Obama, the reddest of the reddest red sun in our heart, he
will think for all of us. All we need to do is to follow - follow the great
man's step closely, whole-heartedly, to
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: you watch my signature video, get educated a bit on how do we get here.
:
: welfare
|
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a***o
发帖数: 3734 | 9 stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers? You can stay away from them.
You can live a perfect life without ever buying stock or mutual fund.
they
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: are stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers. They make money by
: trading stocks, which bring virtually no contribution to the wellbeing of
: the society. They suck up the wealth of the society by artificially
: inflating and deflating the stock prices. They can do this not because they
: are smarter, but because they have insider information and a big pile of
: money. For those who hates parasites should focus on the banking system
: reform, not just the welfare system.
|
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 10 Stay away from brokerage firms and fund managers for her entire life? That's
pretty pretty hard. Who manages company and government's pension fund? Who
manages unversities endownments? Who manages children's education fund? Who
manages millions of working American's 401K? Someone's life will be very
screwed without fund managers. No one would say fund managers are parasites,
except for the ones who are ignorant about the value fund managers created
to the society.
them.
【在 a***o 的大作中提到】
: stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers? You can stay away from them.
: You can live a perfect life without ever buying stock or mutual fund.
:
: they
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|
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e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 11 Yes, it seems impossible right?
Com'on, people managed to go by without so call 'mutual funds' for .. how
many years? Now suddenly it becomes indispensable? Why? because as taught
in the literature that is the only way to beat the inflation.
In fact, by index, the average long term return on most of the funds is only
8% or less. However, the ups and downs of the stock market do create an
illusion that you can get rich quickly. So people become lazy and greedy.
Instead of using the money for in
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Stay away from brokerage firms and fund managers for her entire life? That's
: pretty pretty hard. Who manages company and government's pension fund? Who
: manages unversities endownments? Who manages children's education fund? Who
: manages millions of working American's 401K? Someone's life will be very
: screwed without fund managers. No one would say fund managers are parasites,
: except for the ones who are ignorant about the value fund managers created
: to the society.
:
: them.
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e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 12 Yes, Chinese managed to survive without plumbing for 5000 years. So I guess
"so-called" toilet and shower is optional in your house as well.
only
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: Yes, it seems impossible right?
: Com'on, people managed to go by without so call 'mutual funds' for .. how
: many years? Now suddenly it becomes indispensable? Why? because as taught
: in the literature that is the only way to beat the inflation.
: In fact, by index, the average long term return on most of the funds is only
: 8% or less. However, the ups and downs of the stock market do create an
: illusion that you can get rich quickly. So people become lazy and greedy.
: Instead of using the money for in
|
p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 13 Good point. Suddenly the right-wingers have become idealists, when it comes
to the Wall Street. Yeah, the Wall Street works perfectly and for the good
of the economy, that is why we had the Great Depression and the Great
Recession, right? It is really sad for the society when the brightest and
smartest work for a profession whose payoff is mostly determined by chance (
a less flashy casino, which hires way more people than the real casinos).
they
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: are stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers. They make money by
: trading stocks, which bring virtually no contribution to the wellbeing of
: the society. They suck up the wealth of the society by artificially
: inflating and deflating the stock prices. They can do this not because they
: are smarter, but because they have insider information and a big pile of
: money. For those who hates parasites should focus on the banking system
: reform, not just the welfare system.
|
p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 14 What did I say about the conservatives' lack of sense of humor? Your attempt
at making jokes is more laughable than the joke you want to make.
great
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: Individual thinking is a burden and a dangerous thing to a liberal.
: Do not expect too much from them.
: When Dear Leader Obama calls for reforming healthcare, we calls for
: reforming healthcare - when Dear Leader Obama calls for reforming banking
: system, we calls for reforming banking system. That's what we do.
: Our Dear Leader Obama, the reddest of the reddest red sun in our heart, he
: will think for all of us. All we need to do is to follow - follow the great
: man's step closely, whole-heartedly, to
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 15 An efficient capital market is necessary. However in a capitalist society,
we don't need anything privately owned that is Too Big To Fail, and we
certainly don't need loopholes for possible market manipulation and insider
trading. If tax payers need to pay for a business's failure, they as well
just own it. Instead of billions of bonus paid to the crooked individuals,
the money can be used to reduce the tax burden of everyone.
I am all for the progress of human civilization. I also know that s
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: Yes, Chinese managed to survive without plumbing for 5000 years. So I guess
: "so-called" toilet and shower is optional in your house as well.
:
: only
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 16 lol, it is impossible to find 'humor' in erdos' dictionary.
attempt
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: What did I say about the conservatives' lack of sense of humor? Your attempt
: at making jokes is more laughable than the joke you want to make.
:
: great
|
n*******8
发帖数: 177 | 17
they
你说的基本没错。
但许多人进那行就替那行辩护。
在他们的言行里，只会考虑自身的利益，
对公理或真理没有追求，自然也不会考虑。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: are stock brokerage firms and mutual fund managers. They make money by
: trading stocks, which bring virtually no contribution to the wellbeing of
: the society. They suck up the wealth of the society by artificially
: inflating and deflating the stock prices. They can do this not because they
: are smarter, but because they have insider information and a big pile of
: money. For those who hates parasites should focus on the banking system
: reform, not just the welfare system.
|
n*******8
发帖数: 177 | 18
,
insider
,
something
improved.
keeping
stock
米国金融市场的基石，坦白说，从来就是误导和欺诈。
它的实际功能是针对本国和全球的投资者施展合法化，
既轻松又高效率的不劳而获的财富掠夺和劫贫济富。
当然这现实和真实是必须积极的去隐瞒和粉饰之。
否则的话，岂不严重违背了基石的教义了？
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: An efficient capital market is necessary. However in a capitalist society,
: we don't need anything privately owned that is Too Big To Fail, and we
: certainly don't need loopholes for possible market manipulation and insider
: trading. If tax payers need to pay for a business's failure, they as well
: just own it. Instead of billions of bonus paid to the crooked individuals,
: the money can be used to reduce the tax burden of everyone.
: I am all for the progress of human civilization. I also know that s
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