k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 QueerNews 讨论区 】
发信人: kaleege (隆冬盖), 信区: QueerNews
标 题: 加州禁止同性婚姻的8号提案被判违宪[顶]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 4 16:49:39 2010, 美东)
热烈庆祝同性婚姻取得阶段性胜利。
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/judge_vaughn_walker_hands_vict.html
This afternoon U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker ruled in the case brought
before him by lawyers Ted Olson and David Boies, which argued that the
Proposition 8 ballot initiative denying marriage rights to same-sex couples
in California was unconstitutional.
判决书在此：http://www.sc |
m********t
发帖数: 1591 | 2 美国人就是闲的，同性结婚怎末了
明天通过法律人可以和狗结婚，狗可以和猫结婚，大家来个大混乱
民主社会，自由世界就应当这样，等大家都没有饭吃就都消停了
couples
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 QueerNews 讨论区 】
: 发信人: kaleege (隆冬盖), 信区: QueerNews
: 标 题: 加州禁止同性婚姻的8号提案被判违宪[顶]
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 4 16:49:39 2010, 美东)
: 热烈庆祝同性婚姻取得阶段性胜利。
: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/judge_vaughn_walker_hands_vict.html
: This afternoon U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker ruled in the case brought
: before him by lawyers Ted Olson and David Boies, which argued that the
: Proposition 8 ballot initiative denying marriage rights to same-sex couples
: in California was unconstitutional.
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q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 3 那你明天就去找条狗结婚吧。看有没人管你。
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: 美国人就是闲的，同性结婚怎末了
: 明天通过法律人可以和狗结婚，狗可以和猫结婚，大家来个大混乱
: 民主社会，自由世界就应当这样，等大家都没有饭吃就都消停了
:
: couples
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | |
r*********s
发帖数: 668 | 5 什么时候全民投票都反对拉？ 不是只有51%的支持率？
而且违宪！是不是大家也可以投票决定你是男人还是女人?
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 只能说加州法官nc啊,全民投票都反对基佬结婚.
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d******a
发帖数: 32122 | 6
是不是男女，是个科学问题
这类检验在体育项目上应用广泛
并不是gay说他是女的，他就是女的了
某些同性恋患者就是得寸进尺，你们那个玩意儿不叫婚姻
【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 什么时候全民投票都反对拉？ 不是只有51%的支持率？
: 而且违宪！是不是大家也可以投票决定你是男人还是女人?
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r*********s
发帖数: 668 | 7 既然是这样，同志结婚，你们就一边凉快去。 你说不叫就不叫啊？
是不是同性恋同样也是科学问题。
也些 homophobia 患者最好分析以下你自己说的。
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
:
: 是不是男女，是个科学问题
: 这类检验在体育项目上应用广泛
: 并不是gay说他是女的，他就是女的了
: 某些同性恋患者就是得寸进尺，你们那个玩意儿不叫婚姻
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 8 Because it is our language. You can call your thing MARRIAGE. We dont have
to call your thing MARRIAGE. You dont have the right to force us to call
your thing MARRIAGE. So we are not going to call your thing MARRIAGE!
get it?
【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 既然是这样，同志结婚，你们就一边凉快去。 你说不叫就不叫啊？
: 是不是同性恋同样也是科学问题。
: 也些 homophobia 患者最好分析以下你自己说的。
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e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 9 Very well said!
have
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Because it is our language. You can call your thing MARRIAGE. We dont have
: to call your thing MARRIAGE. You dont have the right to force us to call
: your thing MARRIAGE. So we are not going to call your thing MARRIAGE!
: get it?
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 10 Apparently, your so called language is not as important as other people's well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
have
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Because it is our language. You can call your thing MARRIAGE. We dont have
: to call your thing MARRIAGE. You dont have the right to force us to call
: your thing MARRIAGE. So we are not going to call your thing MARRIAGE!
: get it?
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 11 They can do whatever they do to each other, or get aids, not my concern, as
long as we are not forced to pay for their medical bills. and we will never
call it MARRIAGE. Get over it!
well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】
: Apparently, your so called language is not as important as other people's well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
:
: have
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q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 12 Who care if you call it marriage, as long as the marriage word is on the
legal document. Just like no one would care if people calls you Chink SB, as
long as its not on your passport. And FYI, don't force others pay for your
Chink hepatitis B, or your straight son or daughters AIDs, becasue more than
50% of the AIDs is spread by str8 sex and drug usage.
as
never
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: They can do whatever they do to each other, or get aids, not my concern, as
: long as we are not forced to pay for their medical bills. and we will never
: call it MARRIAGE. Get over it!
:
: well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 13 Did we call you any foul names? No we didn't. because we are civilized people.
as
your
than
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: Who care if you call it marriage, as long as the marriage word is on the
: legal document. Just like no one would care if people calls you Chink SB, as
: long as its not on your passport. And FYI, don't force others pay for your
: Chink hepatitis B, or your straight son or daughters AIDs, becasue more than
: 50% of the AIDs is spread by str8 sex and drug usage.
:
: as
: never
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e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 14 你们这种人的素养可见一斑。
使用污言秽语要求版主删贴封人。
as
your
than
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: Who care if you call it marriage, as long as the marriage word is on the
: legal document. Just like no one would care if people calls you Chink SB, as
: long as its not on your passport. And FYI, don't force others pay for your
: Chink hepatitis B, or your straight son or daughters AIDs, becasue more than
: 50% of the AIDs is spread by str8 sex and drug usage.
:
: as
: never
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b******n
发帖数: 823 | 15 WTF，当了gay，连中国人都不是了？一口一个chink
as
your
than
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: Who care if you call it marriage, as long as the marriage word is on the
: legal document. Just like no one would care if people calls you Chink SB, as
: long as its not on your passport. And FYI, don't force others pay for your
: Chink hepatitis B, or your straight son or daughters AIDs, becasue more than
: 50% of the AIDs is spread by str8 sex and drug usage.
:
: as
: never
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 16 The funny thing will be, we people would want our marriage
license to be changed to "Straight People Marriage License". I bet a
lot of peole would want that just to show the difference.
The Libertarian used to call themselves Liberals. But the Left liked the
name so they start to call themselves Liberals. So now you have the
Libertarians. Funny story, but they always do that.
as
your
than
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: Who care if you call it marriage, as long as the marriage word is on the
: legal document. Just like no one would care if people calls you Chink SB, as
: long as its not on your passport. And FYI, don't force others pay for your
: Chink hepatitis B, or your straight son or daughters AIDs, becasue more than
: 50% of the AIDs is spread by str8 sex and drug usage.
:
: as
: never
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s****y
发帖数: 18685 | 17 死gay就是能消耗社会资源
couples
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 QueerNews 讨论区 】
: 发信人: kaleege (隆冬盖), 信区: QueerNews
: 标 题: 加州禁止同性婚姻的8号提案被判违宪[顶]
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 4 16:49:39 2010, 美东)
: 热烈庆祝同性婚姻取得阶段性胜利。
: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/judge_vaughn_walker_hands_vict.html
: This afternoon U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker ruled in the case brought
: before him by lawyers Ted Olson and David Boies, which argued that the
: Proposition 8 ballot initiative denying marriage rights to same-sex couples
: in California was unconstitutional.
|
t******j
发帖数: 47 | 18
请别牛B哄哄在网上这么理直气壮。欢迎你去你们公司mailing list群发一下你这话。
【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: 死gay就是能消耗社会资源
:
: couples
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P*O
发帖数: 4324 | 19 支持prop.8 方上诉到最高法院，有没有可能对 marriage的定义全民公投？ |
s****y
发帖数: 18685 | 20 贱
【在 t******j 的大作中提到】
:
: 请别牛B哄哄在网上这么理直气壮。欢迎你去你们公司mailing list群发一下你这话。
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r*********s
发帖数: 668 | 21 违宪， 你是男人，还是女人， 也拿来全民公投？
【在 P*O 的大作中提到】
: 支持prop.8 方上诉到最高法院，有没有可能对 marriage的定义全民公投？
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 22 男人,女人是爹妈天生给的,有清楚的可分清条件的.
gay是不是天生的,定论都没有.再说了,gay不gay,还不是你自己说了算,谁知道
,怎么定义?
【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 违宪， 你是男人，还是女人， 也拿来全民公投？
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r*********s
发帖数: 668 | 23 谁说的？ GAY也是天生的，只是有的年龄太小不知道而已。
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 男人,女人是爹妈天生给的,有清楚的可分清条件的.
: gay是不是天生的,定论都没有.再说了,gay不gay,还不是你自己说了算,谁知道
: ,怎么定义?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 24 你这个是用PY思考的结果吗?
连APA这样的权威科学家组织都无法下这个结论.
【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 谁说的？ GAY也是天生的，只是有的年龄太小不知道而已。
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 25 Who are "we"?
If it is just a matter of language, why did the Mormons and Catholics spend
so much money to promote Prop 8? To give the Californians a semantic lesson?
Think about it. Is a slave a "man"? Was emancipation about language?
have
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Because it is our language. You can call your thing MARRIAGE. We dont have
: to call your thing MARRIAGE. You dont have the right to force us to call
: your thing MARRIAGE. So we are not going to call your thing MARRIAGE!
: get it?
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S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 26 摆脱你们这里homophobia的人去研究一下什么叫republic, representative democracy
. 美国这个世界上比较先进的民主制度还从来没“全民公投”过。
There are reasons that founding fathers chose representative democracy over
direct democracy, and to find that out, all you need is to google! |
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 27 Simple answer:
1. the human race continuity.
2. it costs tax-payer money.
3. I dont like them around my kids.
spend
lesson?
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: Who are "we"?
: If it is just a matter of language, why did the Mormons and Catholics spend
: so much money to promote Prop 8? To give the Californians a semantic lesson?
: Think about it. Is a slave a "man"? Was emancipation about language?
:
: have
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 28 well, just let me get married...what's the harm?
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Simple answer:
: 1. the human race continuity.
: 2. it costs tax-payer money.
: 3. I dont like them around my kids.
:
: spend
: lesson?
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 29 I thought you guys were progressives. The Constition is only a piece of old
paper that can be manipulated, "living an breathing", according to th Left.
No shame.
democracy
over
【在 S***d 的大作中提到】
: 摆脱你们这里homophobia的人去研究一下什么叫republic, representative democracy
: . 美国这个世界上比较先进的民主制度还从来没“全民公投”过。
: There are reasons that founding fathers chose representative democracy over
: direct democracy, and to find that out, all you need is to google!
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 30 比如逼别人围观，强制对儿童进行同性恋诱导。
现在做出一副受害人的样子，一旦翻身那就不知道是什么样了。
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, just let me get married...what's the harm?
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L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 31
again: nobody will try to "teach" your ugly kids to be gay.
you better kill yourself if he/she, unfortunately, is.
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 比如逼别人围观，强制对儿童进行同性恋诱导。
: 现在做出一副受害人的样子，一旦翻身那就不知道是什么样了。
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 32 When you force others to admit your thing is the same as straight people's
marriage, you over did it.
every so often, progressive primary school teachers force this concept onto
our kids. That is why there are so many state level constitution amendments
to ban it. And there be more of that coming.
.
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: again: nobody will try to "teach" your ugly kids to be gay.
: you better kill yourself if he/she, unfortunately, is.
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 33 they have no chance. the tide is reversing.
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 比如逼别人围观，强制对儿童进行同性恋诱导。
: 现在做出一副受害人的样子，一旦翻身那就不知道是什么样了。
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 34 Perhaps far more teachers force their "marriage is between a man and a woman
" idea into the heads of children. The solution is, of course, nobody should
tell nobody's kids about marriage! You are so blinded by your bigotry that
you don't see the other side of the mirror.
onto
amendments
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: When you force others to admit your thing is the same as straight people's
: marriage, you over did it.
: every so often, progressive primary school teachers force this concept onto
: our kids. That is why there are so many state level constitution amendments
: to ban it. And there be more of that coming.
: .
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 35 你别在这里显眼了，吃什么了，嘴怎么那么臭，回家刷牙去。
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: again: nobody will try to "teach" your ugly kids to be gay.
: you better kill yourself if he/she, unfortunately, is.
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 36 我正等着有人说 bigot 呢
you guys are so predictable
woman
should
that
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: Perhaps far more teachers force their "marriage is between a man and a woman
: " idea into the heads of children. The solution is, of course, nobody should
: tell nobody's kids about marriage! You are so blinded by your bigotry that
: you don't see the other side of the mirror.
:
: onto
: amendments
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 37 雷锋不是一个好同志？ :-)
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 你别在这里显眼了，吃什么了，嘴怎么那么臭，回家刷牙去。
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 38 这就是农夫与蛇的事情。
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我正等着有人说 bigot 呢
: you guys are so predictable
:
: woman
: should
: that
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 39 A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements
of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing
beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我正等着有人说 bigot 呢
: you guys are so predictable
:
: woman
: should
: that
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 40 wow...wikipedia ... predictable again
a person before you was suggesting Google...
google ... wiki ... google ... wiki \\counting daisy petals
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
: opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements
: of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing
: beliefs.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 41 I actually have nothing against you, or whatever you do, niehter do I want
to faorce you to do anything or not to do anything. But don't force us to
do anything for you.
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
: opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements
: of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing
: beliefs.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 42 People who support marriage between a man and a woman are bigots, don't you
already know?
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: I actually have nothing against you, or whatever you do, niehter do I want
: to faorce you to do anything or not to do anything. But don't force us to
: do anything for you.
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 43 Your sense of humor is on the par of Sarah Palin's. I mean this as a
compliment.
you
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: People who support marriage between a man and a woman are bigots, don't you
: already know?
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 44 compliment, no complement
and you are welcome.
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: Your sense of humor is on the par of Sarah Palin's. I mean this as a
: compliment.
:
: you
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 45 Why are you guys so scared of Sarah Palin?
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: Your sense of humor is on the par of Sarah Palin's. I mean this as a
: compliment.
:
: you
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 46 Thank you. You were faster to pick out my spelling error than myself
realizing it.
"On a par with," not "on the par of" or "on par of." Still, your sense of
humor is on a par with Sarah Palin's.
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: compliment, no complement
: and you are welcome.
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 47 Because Sarah Palin knows there are 50 states in America, not 57?
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Why are you guys so scared of Sarah Palin?
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 48 Yeah. I'm scared to death of her. My fear is equal in proportion to you guys
' sense of humor.
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Why are you guys so scared of Sarah Palin?
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 49 strange.
She didn't steal your money, you ain't got nothing to be stolen.
She didn't misguide your kids, you ain't got no kids to misguide.
She has not done nothing to you.
what has Sarah done to you to deserve your ridicule?
What is wrong with you guys?
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: Because Sarah Palin knows there are 50 states in America, not 57?
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L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 50
onto
amendments
It is called "same sex marriage". I do not want to force you to admit it -
if I am getting married, it is between me and my partner. It has nothing to
do with you.
Do you ask permission of the whole world if you want to get married?
Again, if that teacher does exist, go ahead, complain to the school,
transfer school, screw the teacher.. it has nothing to do with my marriage.
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: When you force others to admit your thing is the same as straight people's
: marriage, you over did it.
: every so often, progressive primary school teachers force this concept onto
: our kids. That is why there are so many state level constitution amendments
: to ban it. And there be more of that coming.
: .
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L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 51
搞笑 现在文化部到来反对三俗来了 看看这版面上对GAY 冷嘲热讽 肆意辱骂的帖子多
了去了 怎么没见有人嚼着口香糖来伸张正义
再者 我发的帖子对事不对人
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 你别在这里显眼了，吃什么了，嘴怎么那么臭，回家刷牙去。
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 52 that is not true.
to
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 搞笑 现在文化部到来反对三俗来了 看看这版面上对GAY 冷嘲热讽 肆意辱骂的帖子多
: 了去了 怎么没见有人嚼着口香糖来伸张正义
: 再者 我发的帖子对事不对人
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 53 well said...fully support LGBTQ rights
to
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 搞笑 现在文化部到来反对三俗来了 看看这版面上对GAY 冷嘲热讽 肆意辱骂的帖子多
: 了去了 怎么没见有人嚼着口香糖来伸张正义
: 再者 我发的帖子对事不对人
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L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 54
展开说说？
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: that is not true.
:
: to
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 55 1. MARRIAGE is a word, but it is also a tradition forged in thousands of
years of human evolution that represent stability and commitment for the
rearing of next generation. That is NATURE and TRADITION.
2. Schools in the US are heavily influenced by your people and promogates
you lifestyle, even preK kids were taught there are GAY Penguins.
3. Why do we have to pay for your healthcare bill? Smokers have to higher
insurance because of higher risk.
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 展开说说？
|
q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 56 1. Traditional Marriage in various countries, including China, was formed
between one man and several wives. Why don't you seek return to that system?
Marriage between one male and several female is NATURE and TRADITION,
because it exists among seals, lions, and some Arabic countries.
2. I guess the preschool did not teach one male lion intercourses with
several female lions in the mating season either, that got piss you off more.
3. Chinks have higher risk of developing Hepatatis B and stomach
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: 1. MARRIAGE is a word, but it is also a tradition forged in thousands of
: years of human evolution that represent stability and commitment for the
: rearing of next generation. That is NATURE and TRADITION.
: 2. Schools in the US are heavily influenced by your people and promogates
: you lifestyle, even preK kids were taught there are GAY Penguins.
: 3. Why do we have to pay for your healthcare bill? Smokers have to higher
: insurance because of higher risk.
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 57 exactly, why can't we go back to polygamy, based on you gays twisted
arguments.
whatever works for you gays, works for polygamy, incests...
system?
more.
why
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 1. Traditional Marriage in various countries, including China, was formed
: between one man and several wives. Why don't you seek return to that system?
: Marriage between one male and several female is NATURE and TRADITION,
: because it exists among seals, lions, and some Arabic countries.
: 2. I guess the preschool did not teach one male lion intercourses with
: several female lions in the mating season either, that got piss you off more.
: 3. Chinks have higher risk of developing Hepatatis B and stomach
|
l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 58
Is that so called "once nigxxx lifetime nigxxx"?
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: strange.
: She didn't steal your money, you ain't got nothing to be stolen.
: She didn't misguide your kids, you ain't got no kids to misguide.
: She has not done nothing to you.
: what has Sarah done to you to deserve your ridicule?
: What is wrong with you guys?
|
p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 59 大笑。保守派不經意的笑話比刻意講的笑話好笑得多。
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: exactly, why can't we go back to polygamy, based on you gays twisted
: arguments.
: whatever works for you gays, works for polygamy, incests...
:
: system?
: more.
: why
|
q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 60 对老年+痴呆不能要求太高。
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: 大笑。保守派不經意的笑話比刻意講的笑話好笑得多。
|
|
|
q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 61 你今天alzheimer了吗？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: exactly, why can't we go back to polygamy, based on you gays twisted
: arguments.
: whatever works for you gays, works for polygamy, incests...
:
: system?
: more.
: why
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 62 see, that's another point exactly.
gay marriage, what meant to be a joke becomes reality in the real life.
【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: 大笑。保守派不經意的笑話比刻意講的笑話好笑得多。
|
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 63 The meaning of life to continue our lineage. That makes us human. Or, more
primitive, that makes us living beings.
that is why you way is in the dead end.
You will never understand that. because you are already dead.
system?
more.
why
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 1. Traditional Marriage in various countries, including China, was formed
: between one man and several wives. Why don't you seek return to that system?
: Marriage between one male and several female is NATURE and TRADITION,
: because it exists among seals, lions, and some Arabic countries.
: 2. I guess the preschool did not teach one male lion intercourses with
: several female lions in the mating season either, that got piss you off more.
: 3. Chinks have higher risk of developing Hepatatis B and stomach
|
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 64
1 婚姻代表稳定和commitment,拥有stable和committed relationship的同志当然可以
可以结婚。 婚姻是从人类evolution 形成，既然你提到evolution, 就应该想到婚姻这
个概念也是不断发展演化的。尤其是到了现代社会，婚姻更重要的是具备法律内涵，保
障处于婚姻关系的人享受作为配偶的一些基本权利。
NATURE? human nature 应该是回到原始社会的无婚姻状态，群夫群妻， love whoever
you see, 那才是nature.
Tradition? Tradition 一定是对的？那么何来移风易俗这一说法。
2 我无语。同志结婚和美国的学校有什么关系？还heavily influenced ? 不知道你哪
里来到这个结论。我可以感同身受有些父母对自己孩子性倾向的担心，但是这样的结论
是不是也太杞人忧天了点。 MY PEOPLE? at the end of the day, we all human. 如
果非要说我my people, 那么我可以负责任的代表my people对您说：如果你的孩子is
gay. he
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: 1. MARRIAGE is a word, but it is also a tradition forged in thousands of
: years of human evolution that represent stability and commitment for the
: rearing of next generation. That is NATURE and TRADITION.
: 2. Schools in the US are heavily influenced by your people and promogates
: you lifestyle, even preK kids were taught there are GAY Penguins.
: 3. Why do we have to pay for your healthcare bill? Smokers have to higher
: insurance because of higher risk.
|
q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 65 great!
please revoke the fertelity chanlleged people's marriage license first. What
makes them deserve a marriage if they cannot continue their lineage.
on the contrary, i know a lot of lesbian couples get pregrant through IVF
and give birth, they should be allowed to get married...
more
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: The meaning of life to continue our lineage. That makes us human. Or, more
: primitive, that makes us living beings.
: that is why you way is in the dead end.
: You will never understand that. because you are already dead.
:
: system?
: more.
: why
|
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 66 As I said, you will never understand us.
What
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: great!
: please revoke the fertelity chanlleged people's marriage license first. What
: makes them deserve a marriage if they cannot continue their lineage.
: on the contrary, i know a lot of lesbian couples get pregrant through IVF
: and give birth, they should be allowed to get married...
:
: more
|
q******s
发帖数: 7469 | 67 和这种老年痴呆有什么好讲的。
这个话题已经吵了无数次了，从生小孩到学校教育，一条条道理驳倒了，然后就开始乱
伦兽交，驳倒说这些都是直人喜欢干的好事，于是车咕碌转一圈，从生小孩重新开始走
一圈。
每次都是吵的热闹，引来几个水车，给没心板generate无数伪币。不看看这个烂板平时
死气沉沉的，也就讨论同性练时热闹点。
反正几个老年痴呆也半节入土了，吵来吵去最后都是鸡同鸭讲。不如让他们关起门来自
己爽，一板90%lcz贴的垃圾新闻，世界太平。
whoever
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 1 婚姻代表稳定和commitment,拥有stable和committed relationship的同志当然可以
: 可以结婚。 婚姻是从人类evolution 形成，既然你提到evolution, 就应该想到婚姻这
: 个概念也是不断发展演化的。尤其是到了现代社会，婚姻更重要的是具备法律内涵，保
: 障处于婚姻关系的人享受作为配偶的一些基本权利。
: NATURE? human nature 应该是回到原始社会的无婚姻状态，群夫群妻， love whoever
: you see, 那才是nature.
: Tradition? Tradition 一定是对的？那么何来移风易俗这一说法。
: 2 我无语。同志结婚和美国的学校有什么关系？还heavily influenced ? 不知道你哪
: 里来到这个结论。我可以感同身受有些父母对自己孩子性倾向的担心，但是这样的结论
|
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 68
可惜了这个 “美国新闻” 这么大的门脸。我觉得这版面应该改名叫右翼联盟 或者FOX
俱乐部比较好。
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 和这种老年痴呆有什么好讲的。
: 这个话题已经吵了无数次了，从生小孩到学校教育，一条条道理驳倒了，然后就开始乱
: 伦兽交，驳倒说这些都是直人喜欢干的好事，于是车咕碌转一圈，从生小孩重新开始走
: 一圈。
: 每次都是吵的热闹，引来几个水车，给没心板generate无数伪币。不看看这个烂板平时
: 死气沉沉的，也就讨论同性练时热闹点。
: 反正几个老年痴呆也半节入土了，吵来吵去最后都是鸡同鸭讲。不如让他们关起门来自
: 己爽，一板90%lcz贴的垃圾新闻，世界太平。
:
: whoever
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 69 驳倒了?什么时候驳倒了?
你在做梦吧?
相反,你们什么gay天生论早就入土三尺了.
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 和这种老年痴呆有什么好讲的。
: 这个话题已经吵了无数次了，从生小孩到学校教育，一条条道理驳倒了，然后就开始乱
: 伦兽交，驳倒说这些都是直人喜欢干的好事，于是车咕碌转一圈，从生小孩重新开始走
: 一圈。
: 每次都是吵的热闹，引来几个水车，给没心板generate无数伪币。不看看这个烂板平时
: 死气沉沉的，也就讨论同性练时热闹点。
: 反正几个老年痴呆也半节入土了，吵来吵去最后都是鸡同鸭讲。不如让他们关起门来自
: 己爽，一板90%lcz贴的垃圾新闻，世界太平。
:
: whoever
|
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 70 They just keep lying and lying and lying.
I would rather not say anything. But to keep kids from fall into their trap
, we have to keep telling the truth again and again.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 驳倒了?什么时候驳倒了?
: 你在做梦吧?
: 相反,你们什么gay天生论早就入土三尺了.
|
|
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 71 婚姻是那么简单么？
如果只是committed relationship,那是两个人的事情用道德来管就好了，法律没有必
要介入。
婚姻更重要是为了保护家庭和人类的良好的延续 （比如防止乱伦等等一系列的好处。
请别在这里说什么同性恋也能领养什么的，这个是另外的话题）。婚姻是个社会行为，
不是你个人行为。既然是社会行为，你的行为当然会对社会产生影响。社会有权进行监
督。 不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合。 现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯
定会给社会带来很多负面的影响。 对孩子的影响当然更深远，因为孩子还在学习阶段
。 把正常的婚姻和同性的组合都叫做婚姻就等于把苹果和桔子都叫做苹果一样。概念
很混乱。 会不会影响他们的性倾向，没人说的清楚，但是肯定会影响他们树立正确的
婚姻观。
其实同性恋自己也清楚你们的关系和正常夫妻的关系是不一样的，连最基本的做爱的方
式都不同。 搞不懂为什么非要占用正常人的婚姻呢？ 你们完全可以自己发明一个你们
认为神圣的字眼。我相信没有人因为这而歧视你们的。
whoever
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 可惜了这个 “美国新闻” 这么大的门脸。我觉得这版面应该改名叫右翼联盟 或者FOX
: 俱乐部比较好。
|
n**i
发帖数: 76 | 72 我有孩子，所以你们就是偶们的死敌。哈哈
什么伦理道德，什么天性，没有孩子的家庭就不是偶们的同盟 |
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 73 Ha Ha!
【在 n**i 的大作中提到】
: 我有孩子，所以你们就是偶们的死敌。哈哈
: 什么伦理道德，什么天性，没有孩子的家庭就不是偶们的同盟
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 74
system?
婚姻用于是男女之间的组合，能够繁衍后代。 同性恋不行。
more.
搞不懂你说这个什么意思。 人类的文明没必要类比动物。
why
你这是想说同性恋是一种疾病。那我奉劝你早看医生。
【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 1. Traditional Marriage in various countries, including China, was formed
: between one man and several wives. Why don't you seek return to that system?
: Marriage between one male and several female is NATURE and TRADITION,
: because it exists among seals, lions, and some Arabic countries.
: 2. I guess the preschool did not teach one male lion intercourses with
: several female lions in the mating season either, that got piss you off more.
: 3. Chinks have higher risk of developing Hepatatis B and stomach
|
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 75 婚姻能够保护家庭- 所以我的家庭也需要保护
婚姻能够保护人类的延续？- 那么应该立法禁止离婚 而不是不准GAY 结婚
婚姻能够防止乱伦？-不知道怎么说
婚姻是个社会行为？-不知道。您结婚问过全世界人民么？你结婚导致甘肃泥石流了 全
球变暖了？ 还是中国人民财富增加了? 还是全球经济危机了？
社会监督婚姻？人家两口子吵架要离婚 全社会都来劝和？
不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合 - 为什么？
现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯定会给社会带来很多负面的影响 - again. it is same
sex marriage. 还有你说的肯定的负面影响是什么？全球现在有十个国家 以及美国6
个州是合法的。 加拿大人家不还是照样冬奥会， 南非还是在踢世界杯，麻州和康涅狄
格的人民不还是都活的好好的？你来告诉我同性婚姻在这些国家（地区）产生的负面影响体现在哪里？
对孩子的影响当然更深远，因为孩子还在学习阶段把正常的婚姻和同性的组合都叫做婚
姻就等于把苹果和桔子都叫做苹果一样。概念很混乱。 会不会影响他们的性倾向，没
人说的清楚，但是肯定会影响他们树立正确的婚姻观- 什么是正确的婚姻观？？告诉
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 婚姻是那么简单么？
: 如果只是committed relationship,那是两个人的事情用道德来管就好了，法律没有必
: 要介入。
: 婚姻更重要是为了保护家庭和人类的良好的延续 （比如防止乱伦等等一系列的好处。
: 请别在这里说什么同性恋也能领养什么的，这个是另外的话题）。婚姻是个社会行为，
: 不是你个人行为。既然是社会行为，你的行为当然会对社会产生影响。社会有权进行监
: 督。 不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合。 现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯
: 定会给社会带来很多负面的影响。 对孩子的影响当然更深远，因为孩子还在学习阶段
: 。 把正常的婚姻和同性的组合都叫做婚姻就等于把苹果和桔子都叫做苹果一样。概念
: 很混乱。 会不会影响他们的性倾向，没人说的清楚，但是肯定会影响他们树立正确的
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 76 dont fall in their traps, you simply dont want to argue about life style
they choose.
the fact is, they can choose whatever life style they want, and we dont have to
acknowledge whatever life style they choose. simple as that.
。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 婚姻是那么简单么？
: 如果只是committed relationship,那是两个人的事情用道德来管就好了，法律没有必
: 要介入。
: 婚姻更重要是为了保护家庭和人类的良好的延续 （比如防止乱伦等等一系列的好处。
: 请别在这里说什么同性恋也能领养什么的，这个是另外的话题）。婚姻是个社会行为，
: 不是你个人行为。既然是社会行为，你的行为当然会对社会产生影响。社会有权进行监
: 督。 不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合。 现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯
: 定会给社会带来很多负面的影响。 对孩子的影响当然更深远，因为孩子还在学习阶段
: 。 把正常的婚姻和同性的组合都叫做婚姻就等于把苹果和桔子都叫做苹果一样。概念
: 很混乱。 会不会影响他们的性倾向，没人说的清楚，但是肯定会影响他们树立正确的
|
e*****e
发帖数: 212 | 77 你这样看问题时把婚姻切碎了来片面的看问题。
比如说家庭这个词，不仅仅是两个人，还有父母孩子等等的东西包括在里面。
结婚的目的是要长久，离婚也是迫不得已的事情。没有人离婚只是因为好玩。
一个婚姻薄弱性乱的社会，就会有人祸。历史已经证明了这一点。
社会当然要监督婚姻，比如近亲就不能结婚。 吵架要离婚也必须有社会来监督，所以
必须通过法律来判决。
same
6
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
: 婚姻能够保护家庭- 所以我的家庭也需要保护
: 婚姻能够保护人类的延续？- 那么应该立法禁止离婚 而不是不准GAY 结婚
: 婚姻能够防止乱伦？-不知道怎么说
: 婚姻是个社会行为？-不知道。您结婚问过全世界人民么？你结婚导致甘肃泥石流了 全
: 球变暖了？ 还是中国人民财富增加了? 还是全球经济危机了？
: 社会监督婚姻？人家两口子吵架要离婚 全社会都来劝和？
: 不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合 - 为什么？
: 现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯定会给社会带来很多负面的影响 - again. it is same
: sex marriage. 还有你说的肯定的负面影响是什么？全球现在有十个国家 以及美国6
: 个州是合法的。 加拿大人家不还是照样冬奥会， 南非还是在踢世界杯，麻州和康涅狄
|
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 78
说的好 结婚的目的是要长久 -
我也想长久的和我的partner一起生活 有稳定的家庭 所以要用婚姻来到大这个目的
一个婚姻薄弱性乱的社会，就会有人祸 -
说的更好。 同性婚姻立法，正是从重视婚姻本质效用出发，以求稳定社会关系，减少
性乱。
近亲以前可以结婚，但是后来人们发现近亲结婚导致不良后果，所以修改了婚姻，不允
许近亲结婚（注意:所谓“传统”的文学作品里可以对近亲大加赞赏的，e.g.,林妹妹和
宝哥哥 lol) 这更说明婚姻的概念是演变的，不是一成不变的。
如果真的同性婚姻合法了， 结果发现全世界人民都要争着抢着要和同性结婚，要“亡
国灭种”了，那么再立法禁止呗，至少现在在加拿大，在荷兰，在麻州，在康涅狄格，
还没有发现这种“负面影响”。
至于吵架离婚-我个人认为离婚和结婚一样，是个人的事情，犯不上要有社会来裁定人
家要不要离。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你这样看问题时把婚姻切碎了来片面的看问题。
: 比如说家庭这个词，不仅仅是两个人，还有父母孩子等等的东西包括在里面。
: 结婚的目的是要长久，离婚也是迫不得已的事情。没有人离婚只是因为好玩。
: 一个婚姻薄弱性乱的社会，就会有人祸。历史已经证明了这一点。
: 社会当然要监督婚姻，比如近亲就不能结婚。 吵架要离婚也必须有社会来监督，所以
: 必须通过法律来判决。
:
: same
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 79 嘿.gay这种事又不是昨天发生的.人类历史长河多少年了...
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 说的好 结婚的目的是要长久 -
: 我也想长久的和我的partner一起生活 有稳定的家庭 所以要用婚姻来到大这个目的
: 一个婚姻薄弱性乱的社会，就会有人祸 -
: 说的更好。 同性婚姻立法，正是从重视婚姻本质效用出发，以求稳定社会关系，减少
: 性乱。
: 近亲以前可以结婚，但是后来人们发现近亲结婚导致不良后果，所以修改了婚姻，不允
: 许近亲结婚（注意:所谓“传统”的文学作品里可以对近亲大加赞赏的，e.g.,林妹妹和
: 宝哥哥 lol) 这更说明婚姻的概念是演变的，不是一成不变的。
: 如果真的同性婚姻合法了， 结果发现全世界人民都要争着抢着要和同性结婚，要“亡
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S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 80 你是见过对小孩进行同性恋诱导的呢？还是你被同性恋诱导过呢？
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 比如逼别人围观，强制对儿童进行同性恋诱导。
: 现在做出一副受害人的样子，一旦翻身那就不知道是什么样了。
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e***g
发帖数: 1696 | 81 Gay都是这么没逻辑么？从社会行为就偷换成全人民同意。
same
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【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
: 婚姻能够保护家庭- 所以我的家庭也需要保护
: 婚姻能够保护人类的延续？- 那么应该立法禁止离婚 而不是不准GAY 结婚
: 婚姻能够防止乱伦？-不知道怎么说
: 婚姻是个社会行为？-不知道。您结婚问过全世界人民么？你结婚导致甘肃泥石流了 全
: 球变暖了？ 还是中国人民财富增加了? 还是全球经济危机了？
: 社会监督婚姻？人家两口子吵架要离婚 全社会都来劝和？
: 不管婚姻怎么发展，都应该是男女之间的组合 - 为什么？
: 现在同性恋非要己鸠占鹊巢，肯定会给社会带来很多负面的影响 - again. it is same
: sex marriage. 还有你说的肯定的负面影响是什么？全球现在有十个国家 以及美国6
: 个州是合法的。 加拿大人家不还是照样冬奥会， 南非还是在踢世界杯，麻州和康涅狄
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S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 82 As long as it becomes the law of the land, who cares some chinese noncitizen
bigots' opinion?
have to
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: dont fall in their traps, you simply dont want to argue about life style
: they choose.
: the fact is, they can choose whatever life style they want, and we dont have to
: acknowledge whatever life style they choose. simple as that.
:
: 。
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 83 It has not become law of the land in most non-bankrupt states, not even in
California. An
D it will not. One district Judge doesn't not mean you have won, even this
one suspended his own judgement until
further appeal. More and more statutes will surely ban it through state
constitutional amendment, and eventually US
constitutional amendment.
noncitizen
【在 S***d 的大作中提到】
: As long as it becomes the law of the land, who cares some chinese noncitizen
: bigots' opinion?
:
: have to
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f*******e
发帖数: 4531 | 84 51% people do not have intention to call it marriage in California
well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】
: Apparently, your so called language is not as important as other people's well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
:
: have
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S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 85
【在 f*******e 的大作中提到】
: 51% people do not have intention to call it marriage in California
:
: well being .Get over it. So bigoted.
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 86 装疯卖傻有什么意思么。你们的表演不正证明这是农夫与蛇的事情么。从你们的现场表
演就知道，绝对不能让你们翻身。
【在 S***d 的大作中提到】
: 你是见过对小孩进行同性恋诱导的呢？还是你被同性恋诱导过呢？
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S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 87
关你屁事？
你又没有投票权。
【在 y***d 的大作中提到】
: 装疯卖傻有什么意思么。你们的表演不正证明这是农夫与蛇的事情么。从你们的现场表
: 演就知道，绝对不能让你们翻身。
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 88 这跟投票权有屁的关系.
人民已经投过票了,diang的法官要独裁强奸民意.
【在 S***d 的大作中提到】
:
: 关你屁事？
: 你又没有投票权。
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z***e
发帖数: 5393 | 89 我认为gay属于变异生物，所以能有基本生存/居住/工作权已经是极大开恩了。 |
