a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 1 wilson 6.1 16x18 and 18x20 也算w家主打的拍子，是w家pro里面用的最多的。 16x18
我用作备拍，控制会差一点，但也不是不能用，因为95拍面和，中间密外围疏的线的分
布 。
我推荐wilson ps 95 16x19 + 配重 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 2 I been using 6.1 18x20 since late July or August. Planning to get the new
ones. I was using the ps 95 but I added weight to have it at around 12.1 oz
at the time. I can hit the ball harder with 6.1 thsn ps |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 3 6.1 18x20 is not easy to use at first. Strongly recommend not to use multi
filament with it. But if you have a solid stroke and able to stay loose it's
one of the best stick out there. To me it's the last stick I'll buy...
maybe when I get too old I'll make the switch.
You may need to move your contact point a bit further in front. With this
stick I can feel racquet doing all the work. Amazing racquet but may not
for everyone |
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z*****k
发帖数: 600 | 4 I've used blx95 18x20 exclusively. Even when strung with below average spin
strings, it is still great to do top spin shots. The feedback for net
clearance control is superb. Noice! |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 5 have you used the new 6.1 18x20? It's 7pt HL compares to the previous one (8
HL). I demoed it over the weekend. I do feel a bit more plow through, and
stable.
spin |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 7 偶是彻底的18x20男，所以偶的意见必然biased阿。。。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 BLX 6.1 95是暴力拍，所以你需要是个暴力男。如果是整天放dropshot的pusher，
用起来会很没有feel. 后者用PS 6.1 95更好，哪怕加重。
16x18比18x20更流行一些。你从16x20转过来可能16x18更接近，尤其你的Pure Storm
是98的。你会感觉硬一些，所以touch shots感觉不会有pure storm那么好。不过两者
都是暴力拍，不会有太大的transition困难。
偶自己无法适应PSC 6.1（最老版本的6.1 95），太硬了。 |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 9 这个可不一定，用一样的拍子打的比别人好更能show off，比如黑导的自豪感就体现在
他用18x20, but“probably have one of most topspin fh on the board” ：） |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 10 "BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb,"
have you tried to loosen up the tension a bit? I use BLX 18x20, and used RPM
Blast 16 on it before, tension is 58ish lb, so I imagine if I were to use
17 gauge, I would have strung it at 55 or 56.
over
storm
16 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 11 Delpo uses 18x20. And Joker and Haas's rackets are both 95 in actual size.
has |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 Wilson BLX 6.1 18x20
一发二发 75mph +/-5 mph (base on 75mph is the minimum for ytcw) |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 13 Head Microgel midplus 98 18x20
一发平击75左右，二发上旋速度不定，努力刷上旋大概不到50，想快点能到65（雷达测
的）。
只考虑二发的化，我觉得轻拍比重拍容易刷的多(我的发球动作不标准，不用胳膊用手
腕)，用Head red 9.7oz刷的那个转，自我感觉是穷人低速版的Murray，但是轻拍
底线太差了，只好放弃。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 14 当时我好像也给你买拍子做了建议，不可能是pestige, 我从不会建议新手用prestige,
6.1 18x20 类似的player's racquet.....
你如果用单反我也不建议用APD. 我会建议用 Wilson prostaff 95
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_Pro_Staff_95_BLX_/descpa
Head YOUTEK IG Extreme Pro 2.0 (可能也有些advanced)
-- I hit with for 5 min, the backhand slice is amazing with it... might need
to hit more to give you a better evaluation.
I rarely see players (pro or recreational) with SHBH use APD, even the ones
that do, their BH is not very good. I think for SHBH, the racquet ... 阅读全帖 |
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R****n
发帖数: 708 | 15 probably better for flatter hitters. 18x20, sw320 and RA 62. Need a strong
muscle to drive the ball. 17g string would be a proper choice for most ppl. |
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 16 用过最小POWER的Hyper Carbon 6.5 18X20的, 没见过还有这12X16的. 肯定POWER 无穷
大. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 目前有这么几种95.
图1按照数字从小到大排列，分别是Hyper Prostaff 5.0 MP, Hyper Hammer
5.3 MP, ncode 6.1 95, Prostaff Tour Classic 6.6.
这几种都号称95，但是5.3 95明显要大一圈。5.3 95是海宁的拍子，虽然她
用的欧洲版稍有不同。由于stiffness 75并且11 point HH, 偶目前还没敢
上线尝试。海宁最终据说也得了网球肘。。。
其中只有6.6还算软，而且6.6只有18x20版，更适合偶的风格一些。其他几个
都是大硬拍。6.1 95烂大街，大家估计都熟悉。5.0 stiffness 74，感觉就是
铁板。
厚度上，5.0, 6.1, 6.6都号称21mm，实际厚度6.6 < 5.0 < 6.1.
5.3最厚，23mm.
结论就是Wilson这个数字完全不靠铺，数字大小和拍子类型完全没有联系。。。 |
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 18 肯定还有一种 hyper prostaff 6.5 95的，18x20， 偶用过的。 |
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 19 mid 18x20 不出了？
这拍子轻了许多，线床在1619里面好像算比较密的 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 20 Prestige Mid is 89.5" and 18x20, theoretically worst for topspin.
It's for guys with vintage strokes. But obviously court is fine
with it. So court will likely find any other racket good for topspin,
hehe.
final
sell |
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q********h
发帖数: 3 | 21 真不巧。我孩子用的是16X18的。他用着觉得挺好，正想再买一把。13岁的孩子，也不
觉得重，他说Power 和Spin都挺好。您18x20的Control更好吧。 谢谢了。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 嗯， control, direction 都很好。 16x18也是把好拍子，就是线断得太快。 18x20 (
16g poly) 可以打近3个星期,认识一个jr, 说16x18 一个星期都last 不了，不知道他
用的是16g 还是 17g. |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 23 I tried mine last night against ball machine. Melbourne is powerful, so
powerful that my drive is as fast as Ken's stroke, but many went out of
control. It's also hard to add heavy top spin.
I'm surprised to see such power on a 12oz(stung, 11.5oz unstrung) 6pt head-
light racket with 18x20 pattern. I'm using Tecnifibre NRG2 17 at 55lb.
Perhaps poly string or high tension will make control better. |
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a***8
发帖数: 2433 | 24 我很久以前有过一支Tour 10 Gen II.基本上一样，最大差别是16x19。很好用，可是我
只能坚持2个set，胳膊就没劲儿了，坚持用了两年后，只好换轻拍子。
你拍子上nrg 55磅肯定会overly powerful，18x20应该上17或者18gage的soft poly，
control和spin都会有提高。拍子本身比较arm friendly，poly的磅数要低，45～50磅
吧，不会伤胳膊。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 25 不知道，pro 用 6.1的还是很多， 得等他拍子出来再说了。 新的6.1 18x20我非常喜
欢， 准备以后再去弄两把。。。。
FF的新拍虽然是16x19, 但拍子中间线还是挺密的， 可能sweet spot还是有些像90，
maybe?
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 18x20 vs 16x19
Regular bumper guard vs CAP |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 27 最近买了两个拍子，试了7，8把拍子。说一说感受，只集中在一点上，就是怎么能更容
易更多拉上旋。
买了/试了
Boris Becker Melbourne
Wilson Six.One 95 BLX
Babolat Pure Storm Tour
还有其他几个老款的，重量是11oz到12.3oz，重心是10pt HL - 2pt HL.
感受:
(1) 轻拍更容易拉上旋, 当然不能太轻，至少要11oz。重拍太重，plow through太好，
球penetration好却spin不会更多。另外轻拍拍头速度快。所以Nadal用轻拍。
(2) 偏小的握柄比偏大更容易拉上旋，所以Nadal用4 1/4。
(3) 垂直握拍比斜握拍更容易拉上旋，
Edit: Add 3a:
(3a) 16x19上旋好，但是控制不好上旋，18x20旋转可能稍微差，但是是控制的很好的
上旋。 16x20刚刚好。
其他感受:
(4) 稍曲胳膊击球比直膊击球更容易. 老费比较例外，没人能打成他那样。
(5) 握拍松比握拍紧更容易拉上旋，还没彻底肯定，不过道理上握拍紧和用重拍一样，
直接把球打成penetrating.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 28 可能把，但问题是radical也是18x20，好像又没觉得有问题。 |
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c********t
发帖数: 259 | 29 Blade 98是18*20的拍子，肯定更适合打平击，我原来也是用的KBlade98，结果试用了
一下朋友的APD,立马对手感觉我的上旋强了不少，自己觉得发球也容易了很多（因为我
发球很少平击）。不过个人认为blx blade 98比kblad98以及最新的blade98 18X20要手
感差一些。 |
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 30 器材的差别会有影响, 18x20 vs 16x20 |
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h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 31 我觉得跟动作和线的关系很大。我用blx blade tour(93, 18x20),线是luxilon big
banger rough,打出的spin比我用dunlop d300(98, 16x19)加pro hurricane要强，感觉
更能吃住球 |
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r******h
发帖数: 248 | 32 我也觉得好像线的作用很大，我自己的拍子感觉很硬，用朋友的那个感觉软了好多，明
显对球的控制好很多，当然18x20 和16x19 应该也有差别，但感觉线的差别也很大。 |
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 34 我觉得43磅有点夸张，大概控球能力超强，不是一般人。
我绑过一个49磅，结果啥动作都做不了，没有上旋所以不敢发力。radical mp我绑过51
磅，17 gauge的线正好。考虑18x20 vs 16x19，prestige s 52磅很靠谱。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 35 我用的是eagnas crank的那种, 6个 balance point. 线, volkl cyclone不错, 便宜
耐用手感也好, 我个人用的是tourna bhb7. 断线和拍子关系很大。 同样的线在18x20
上比16x19的寿命长一倍都不止。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 37 18x20 的拍子， BHB7 (co poly)差不多40分钟吧（取决于电视有啥好节目）。 16x18
用synthetic 明显快很多。 |
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c********t
发帖数: 259 | 38 同推荐crank的，个人感觉比drop weight的穿线快些似乎也更准一点。eagnas的售后服
务一般，但是价钱便宜些
18x20 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 39 different brand and different string patterns, like 16x18, 18x20, 16x19,
with hole, without hole, midsize/oversize... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 40 也可以少穿几个孔。18x20变成16x18... |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 41 i demo it 2 weeks ago, it felt very similar to my current 6.1 18x20 with a
bigger sweet spot. I'm not blown away with it, maybe because of the string
and tension that came with it. It's definitely is an upgrade to my current
stick. But I will need to demo few more times before I'm convinced.
I'm currently trying to demo Volkl C10 pro, Volkl super G10(325), Babalot
pure control pro. Probably will pick 1 of these 3 and then compare it to the
RF97 to make the final decision. My current racquet is g... 阅读全帖 |
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 42 I have the European version of PSC 6.1 95, it is 18x20 with spec balance at
about 7.3 HL |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 43 Pure Drive来自Pro Kennex Destiny. 不过后者高达12.6 oz，并且是95.
偶曾经有过，轻松topspin效果超过偶的18x20们好几倍。但是topspin实在不是
偶的game, 就转让了。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 44 Pure Drive来自Pro Kennex Destiny. 不过后者高达12.6 oz，并且是95.
偶曾经有过，轻松topspin效果超过偶的18x20们好几倍。但是topspin实在不是
偶的game, 就转让了。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 45 你的拍子是head macrogel prestige pro 18x20?
gauge |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 46 ic ic, I tried the 46lb on my 6.1 (95 18x20), it felt good, but when I tried
the 46lb on the volkl (98 16x19), I felt a bit less on the feels and
control.... head's 98 is a bit smaller, and my stringer is kinda broke so
maybe it was only 40lb.... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 47 Head 98 == Wilson 95.
46 lbs on a 16x19 95 would be looser than on a 18x20 95. It would feel
between the Volkl and Wilson.
tried |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 48 Volkl c10 pro 98 beam is only 20mm thus you mean feel lack the power. It has
a very fast swing though which compensate the lack of power from the
racquet itself. And because of the thinner beam it is very easy to maneuver.
It's one of the classic.
The one I tried is Super G10 325, similar beam but much thicker. It still
will be a very different feel compare to prestige though. I tried migrocel
prestige 18x20 before, slice is super good, but not much power, the feel is
similar to the wilson 6.1 9... 阅读全帖 |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 49 bee klippermate上 poly能穿多块? 我18x20 最快也要４０分钟 六点fixed clamps.
klippermate |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 50 呵呵， 是这样， 我的问题是只要对手slice不管slice好不好， 我都slice 回去。。
。 其实用双反， 很多球还是该用双反brush回去。。。。
这也是为什么我决定换拍子的原因之一， wilson 6.1 18x20削起来比较容易， sweet
spot 小些， 抽起来容易mis hit， 所以很多情况我都选择了削， safer, higher
percentage etc.... works with most 4.5s, 但想要再上一个层次， 我得take
advantage of 这种defensive slices.... |
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