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e*******o
发帖数: 2271 | 2 任志强称和工资比房价等于没涨遭质疑
http://finance.sina.com.cn/china/hgjj/20090419/06186120402.shtml
在博鳌论坛年会期间举行的“调整中的中国房地产市场”分论坛上，华远集团总裁
任志强发表的“和居民工资收入相比 房价等于没涨”的言论，经媒体报道后，立即引
来骂声一片。
任志强在该分论坛上谈到“房价到底涨了多少？”的议题时，算了这样一笔经济账
：1978年GDP大概3000多亿，现在是30多万亿，增加了 100多倍。1978年月工资全国平
均28.6元，到现在也增加了100倍。1978年我们大白菜2分钱一颗，现在2元钱，也增加
了100倍。房价只增加了16.6倍，和工资收入相比相差太远了，房子等于没有涨价。
任志强表示，现在人们老是觉得房价贵，是因为现在房价有50%是政府的土地出让
金。相比之下，房子是1978年到目前为止涨价涨得比较低的一部分。
任志强的上述言论，经媒体报道后，立即招来了全国网友的骂声一片。记者昨日从
国内一家知名网站看到，报道“出街”仅短短六小时，“骂任”的相关评论帖子已超过
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 4 climbed mt shasta on 4/19 with two other bayarea chinese.
it was my first time backpacking and mountaineering experience and it was a
fun trip.
the weather forecast was clear with 5mph wind and warm temperature.
we started saturday afternoon in bunny flat trail header at 7000ft.the trail
head was well covered with 5 ft of snow and we had to climb up the snow
wall from parking lot to get to the trail.we backpacked to horse camp at
8000ft.
we started to climb around 2 a.m. on sunday morning. one t |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 5 Congrat.
Nice TR and pictures.
Just one suggestion: next time, either do car camping at trail head, and
start at 2am next morning for a day hike, or camp at Helen lake for a two-
day climb.
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 7 这是为啥？
是不是7000ft的trail head和8000ft的horse适应海拔差不多，Backpacking带的东西太
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 8 yes
you gain nothing by camping only 1000ft higher from TH in real climb |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 9 for the first timers, maybe some fun, some expericne of actually "
backpacking out" |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 10 that's why I suggest "next time" |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 14 agree. it turned out that we wasted time to setup and clean up camp without
the benefit of altitude acclimation. |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 15 we didn't encounter that kind of snow the whole day.
probably the night before was not cold enought to make that happen or we
were not at that altitute early enough. |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 17 好多人在滑。
下午两三点之前都不错，后来太软了。
我这周末还去，带ski。
打算周六下午走，在车里睡觉，早上五点开爬，不准备登顶，下午三点换ski往回滑。
这周降温，可能上午雪会非常硬。 |
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