K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 I intend to think this not as a real switch. It's not like he
felt 2HBH was more suitable for him, lol. |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 2 good tip but too superficial. the reason not to use right hand too much is
due to continental grip. try to hit a 1hbh with continental grip, ball
will fly to the back fence. that's why ppl switch from 1hbh to 2hbh and
have consistency problem because they use too much right hand. imo, the
biggest problem to overcome is footwork tho. |
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O*********r
发帖数: 1835 | 3 这是近十到二十年来的说法。
80年代或是以前，大家都时新1hbh。桑普拉斯还专门从2hbh换到1hbh。而且当时大多球
手以发球上网打法为主。后来出现超级上旋打法，各种穿越的新技术，才把1hbh打入冷
宫。不过温网还是1hbh有优势。Volley & half volley are much easier . |
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 4 Yes, it will take a while to get there.
At the same time, do not dump your backhand slice. You still need it no
matter you play with 1hbh or 2hbh
sets
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h*****c
发帖数: 569 | 5 I guess they can put a lot of pressure on their opponents 's backhand with
powerful forehand or 2hbh, so the 1hbh opponents do not have much
opportunity to hit backhand drive... |
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 6 hehe, same here same here.
the other reason is better return.
One of my friend (4.5)used to have beautiful 2hbh. But he broke his left arm
then now switch to 1hbh. just 3 months already pretty good... |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 7 Yes, I am talking about dropping the racquet head.
My problem is that for low balls, especially low balls that I need to move
into the court to hit a forehand approaching shot, I often forget dropping
the racquet head or didn't drop the racquet enough, so that I frame a lot of
balls. Initially I tried to find the reason why I frame the balls at 9 o'
clock of the racquet frame, I thought it might be that that I swing too fast
. I also had the same problem at the backhand side (2hbh). Now I found ... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 8
into the court to hit a forehand approaching shot, I often forget dropping
the racquet head or didn't drop the racquet enough, so that I frame a lot of
balls. Initially I tried to find the reason why I frame the balls at 9 o'
clock of the racquet frame, I thought it might be that that I swing too fast
. I also had the same problem at the backhand side (2hbh). Now I found out
it's because I didn't drop my racquet head.
大部分人是过于懒惰，拍头落下去了，膝盖不弯腰不弯。 你这问题相对来说比较容易
解决。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 9 At 4.0 Wilson blade is a great stick for all court player with 2hbh, semi
western grip topspin forehand. At euraka moment any racquet will do the
trick. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 10 Basically you are saying to hit a half-volley type of the backhand, except
you'll be near the baseline. Step in, cut the angle off, bend low, compact
prep, and just flick the wrist, used opponents power to redirect ball. Right?
That should work, and should be a good fit for your game style. Timing is
not easy though, but with 2HBH, you can always muscle the ball. Issue is if
you don't redirect well, you'll be in trouble in the next shot then again it
's the same for any type of stroke. =)
Also y... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 11 very common problem for ppl to switch from 1hbh to 2hbh: Too much right hand.
You should loose up the grip your right hand (dominent hand). 80%+ power
should come from your left hand. Otherwise, you might end up some elbow
problem. The best tip for that is only use 3 right-hand fingers to hold the
racquet. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 久进入正轨得看你这正轨的definition了,也得看你的天赋和dedication. 我改成双反
时做了以下一些练习.
1. 用左手刷牙
2. 打球前左手握拍拍球100下,颠球100下
3. 有机会就self drop feed, 先drop feed use left hand only, 再drop feed
proper 2hbh
4. 左握拍打墙 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 13 球打浅了， 被对手攻，你又跑不到，只有祈求对手unforced error了。你首先要做到
争取把球打深。
如果你能跑到，可以一下选择：
1. open stance 2hbh
2. close stance 1hbh slice
3. close stance chip lob
#1 is best choice。 #2 ，#3 are low percentage.
么干 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 15 i would say no.... at least don't do it too extreme... I used to feel i need
to cross my right over my left for the 2hbh... that turn out to be a big no
no... I suffered a lot from it, and still trying to correct it.
Once you cross over a bit too much, you can't hit a proper cross court bh.
You'll end up drag a cross court BH instead hitting through. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 16 You are talking about follow through. When you about to hit the ball I would
suggest try to keep both feet on the ground and nothing moves but your
racquet. If you lift up you feet or turn etc, most likely you're
compensating your stroke due to improper spacing or timing.
It's a tricky thing... say for me on 2hbh if I tell myself to "not" to move
and "dont" use the core, I can hit some nice bh. But from an observer point
of view, I used my core properly.
Tennis is progressive. Watching a pro do... 阅读全帖 |
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z********4
发帖数: 1668 | 17 既然要重建，楼主还是2HBH吧。
I'm serious。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 18 When I hit 2hbh DTL for a winner, sometime I hit just a little bit long,
couple inches to a feet.
When I hit forehand DTL for a winner, sometime I hit it long. I hit it too
flat.
When I tried to attack a high ball over the shoulder using forehand,
sometime I hit it long due to the swing path problem.
When I tried to hit a cross court running forehand, sometime I hit it long
due to my opponent is already at net and I'm under a lot of pressure to
perfect the shot. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 19 I am 2 hand backhander, but I love to hit backhand slice. I feel my slice is
my weapon against similar level of players. If you hit slice to my backhand
, I would say thank you.
One type of players I'm afraid of most: who hit great inside-out forehand
again and again with very good angle. That's when my 2hbh topspin went short
or my 1h slice went into net. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 20 I am 2 hand backhander, but I love to hit backhand slice. I feel my slice is
my weapon against similar level of players. If you hit slice to my backhand
, I would say thank you.
One type of players I'm afraid of most: who hit great inside-out forehand
again and again with very good angle. That's when my 2hbh topspin went short
or my 1h slice went into net. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 21 发现我左手grip太偏semi western, 准备改成eastern, 这样可以解决两个问题
1. 我双反spin太多，穿透力不够
2. 接发时时不时犯一个错误， 挥拍晚了，拍面还很close的时候球已经到了，没有击
上力道球就下网了
有没有什么tip, 闭上眼睛一握就能找到eastern的？ |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 22
有， 睁着眼eastern握好了，grip不cheat反手打墙5千下，eastern就是左手握右手的
感觉了。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 23 赞“左手握右手”, thanks, 我会试一下。 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 24 Yesterday, I saw a video on 2HBH. I know it is not related to serve.
It mentioned step in with your front foot land on your your heel then rock
your weight forward on to it. It helps transferring your weight into the
shot.
I guess I had that in mind. When I served in our double match, I started to
lift my toes up (front foot) then rock forward. Almost all the pros do
this. And I have tried it in the past, but never felt any difference.
But yesterday, it kind of kicked on the first try for ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 25 Yes. That is it.
I have copied the rocking front foot in the past. But I was only pretend
doing that just for show and did no get the real benefit. Like I hit
forehand stop then do a fake shoulder turn and follow through to make it
pretty. I am a fake "formist".
Yesterday, I got lucky on the first try. First I think I toss the ball a
little in front by accident almost and I transfer the weight and timed it
with the Rocking or rolling of the front foot.
Rocking the feet help have a smooth weight ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 26 Pistol grip is when index finger is spread out (separate from rest of
fingers)
Do you guys use Pistol grip or Hammer grip for forehand? And for volley? And
for 2hbh non-dominant hand (top hand)?
What's the pros and cons for you choose one over another? |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 27 同意kennyd on wta backhand.你的raket take back 是wta style，不过这仅仅是
style preference.
左手grip是sw? 这也是style preference.不过best 2hander almost all use eastern
on top hand(except nalbandian)
击球点时：你的左肘弯曲，这也是ｗｔａ 2hbh的一个特点。 |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 28 alright i'll check.
unfortunately i can't see much difference between djokovic 2008 and 2014 bh,
partly because I can't find slow motion video of his bh in 2008.
zverev: his backswing is very much like wta and reaches his contact point
with left elbow semi extended, which is a bit straighter than wta pros like
sharapova. I wouldn't call him a clean example demonstrating atp 2hbh.
djokovic reached world no3 with a flawed serve back in 2008 so a perfect
technique is not everything..
I
to |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 29 she is such a good example of wta 2hbh lol |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 30 I love to play lefty. I can hit slice serve wide (from deuce court) all day
long without worrying being punished. And I can hit a safe 2hbh topspin DTL
all day long with lefty. :) |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 32 一般来说，越年幼越需要WTA反手，因为否则肌肉不够打不动。
如果Joker 08年是ATP，那就找更早的。总有一天你会发现他是WTA了，比如现在的
俩17岁新秀一样。
think? |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 34 这个０９的clip不错，你还是觉得主要是backswing的区别? 我frame by frame再研究
下。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 35 look at the angle of the racquet between the 2. the 2014 one is clearly
flatter, where 2009 one is a bit more vertical. Reason for this is being
able to drop for a more topspin shot vs swing across for a flatter more pace
drive. |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 37 这个我觉得跟力量没太大关系。看小时候教练怎么教的。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 偶觉得Joker就算14年之前的反手，跟WTA的也是没法比的。程度完全不是一个档次。
pace |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 39 2005年的Joker，感觉还是比长大后抬得高点吧。找不到更好的video. |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 40 你指的高 是在racket backswing最后 racket pointing to back fence的时候吗?
如果这个意思，那有可能，你这个ｖｉｄｅｏ里backswing 最后已经超过头的高度了。
但是djoker一直没变的是他low to high 的backswing.
不过我好像知道黑岛的意思了，甚至觉得djoker改了grip. |
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 41 这两个视频不错！感觉joker有一个非常明显的racquet head drop. |
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 42 有时候不理解为什么这么多人得网球肘
自己乱分析
1. flexible racket
2. low tension poly string
3. 2hbh?? |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 43 I think what LZ meant is less to do with focus, more to do with form.
For example, my 2hbh form is much cleaner than forehand, I can probably hit
90% shot in and keep rally going all the time. My extreme semi-western
forehand is not that cleaner, there is a lot of variation from stance,
footwork, windshield wiper motion, contact point, etc, thus I may only keep
70-80% shots in like LZ does. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 44 i was in backhand cross court rally with him prior to his 2hbh dtl。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 45 Most of the shots coming from his 2hbh DTL are below Knee. I think it's
mixture of my forehand technique and anticipation. It's tough to judge the
depth of this kind of DTL shots though. And I need to improve my forehand
footwork on this kind of shots.
,
be
of
started
In |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 46 Jumping 2hbh is way too advanced for WSN to learn. I will pass.
Have you tried it? |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 47 厉害。
By the way, do you know if any top WTA players hit jumping 2hbh in a match?
If not many WTA player can't hit it, I don't think it's necessary for WSN to
learn it. :) |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 48 it's not really that difficult to learn.... i don't think you really need to
purposely learn it... just hit a lot backhand the right way, it comes
pretty naturally... i jump 2hbh when I have to, but I prefer not to use it
because if I prepared early and move well, I shouldn't need to do that... |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 49 Yeah, she is using modern (ATP) finish/follow through with WTA takeback/
foreward swing.That's I'm using right now. From the video where the coach
talked about difference between WTA & ATP forehand, it's still belong to WTA
forehand category (due to her backswing & forward swing before contact), so
is my forehand.
Also this video is pretty old, probably before she modified/improved both
forehand and backhand takeback. Now her forehand and 2hbh takeback is more
compact, which I like.
one
If |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 50 Just keep in mind. String preference is very subjective. It is closely
related to everything else about you or me.
I am 2HBH baseline top spin hitter, prefer top spin serves.(Translate, I
like poly string for spin and control). My regular racquet is Head Radical
MP (low power, very flexible, dense pattern). I prefer thinner strings and
that have some power but not too much. I have a little elbow/shoulder
soreness due to jerky follow-though on serve and forehand in match play,
when I am tight.... 阅读全帖 |
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