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发帖数: 8289 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 FleaMarket 讨论区 】
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标 题: [出售]NEW SONY NEX-3NL/B kit @$360 from NC
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发帖数: 8289 | 2 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
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NEW SONY NEX-3NL/B kit @$360 from NC
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$360. Sony NEX-3NL/B Compact Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera Kit (Black)
including PZ 16-50mm kit lens
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d********f
发帖数: 8289 | 3 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
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我想卖的物品:
NEW SONY NEX-3NL/B kit @$360 from NC
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可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
$360. Sony NEX-3NL/B Compact Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera Kit (Black)
including PZ 16-50mm kit lens
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发帖数: 8289 | 4 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
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我想卖的物品:
NEW SONY NEX-3NL/B kit @$360 from NC
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$360. Sony NEX-3NL/B Compact Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera Kit (Black)
including PZ 16-50mm kit lens
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p********1
发帖数: 1011 | 5 求建议！
Sony NEX-3NL/B这段时间一直在降价，现在289，是否还会降下去？
有比这款更好的价格也会接近的吗？ 这款缺点是什么？
一直犹豫Sony NEX-3NL/B 和 Sony RX100，该买哪个？ |
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l**o
发帖数: 59 | 6 想买个微单给老爹玩，看到今天有个deal Sony NEX-3NL, 应该算是入门级的？想着给
老头用的东西也不用多fancy，是那么个意思，关键轻便点，该有的功能都有就行了。$
375可以买吗？对相机一点不懂，最近才听说微单，请大牛们指点。 |
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S****s
发帖数: 127 | 7 同问。
我想给爸爸买Sony NEX-3NL/B， 这款怎么样？
谢谢 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 8 这次认认真真对比了一下VEGAS赌场的POKER ROOM。以前也去很多赌场玩过，但都没什
么印象，玩了也不知道在哪里玩的。这次算有个比较清晰的概念。
首先最好的ROOM应该算是VENETIAN。人多，宽敞，等的时间很短，工作人员，DEALER们
态度很好。COCKTAIL 小姐很漂亮，这个对男同志是好处。ACTION也不错。FOOD又便宜
味道也不错。饮料也送得比较快。还有就是FIJI WATER，特好喝。DEALER发牌很快，这
个以前不觉得有多重要，玩多了才知道太重要的。像上次HARRAHS的DEALER那样慢，玩
牌的心情一下都没了。
接下来应该是CEASARS。环境很好，房间很大，很安静，发现我在那里玩精力特别集中
。人不是很多，但这次因为有3刀每小时的COMP，所以人也很多。那里很多有钱人，1－
3NL，100－500 BUY-IN。 很多人都是直接买500的。记得第一天去玩，几乎每个PLAYER
一坐下都是掏出一大叠100的钞票，应该都有7 8 千的样子，玩了这么久，很少看到谁
拿出20的来买CHIPS。有医生，生意人，反正很多有钱人。从来ACTION都很好。记得第
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g******n
发帖数: 53185 | 9 pro不玩2/3nl啊，都去玩5/5 5/10 10/20了。2/3nl里面一堆赌徒，只要有个draw就弄
到底，你怎么也敢不走他们。上周五看女赌神打10/20，经常是桌上有人稍微一raise，
别人都跑了。有一手牌，pre flop有人raise到50刀，女赌神就把A10o给fold了，这到
了2/3nl就是all in的牌啊。
玩2/3nl，经常性的发生4，5个人一起 all in，手里有个A2o kjo也敢跟着all in，反
正buyin就100刀，一把输光了再买100又是一条好汉。 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 10 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 周四的晚上 2/3NL应该不算中间吧，也就是每个赌场STRUCTURE不同而已。我开始很反感这种2－3NL
，天天抱怨，后来每个DEALER都说以前是1－2的，但太没ACTION了，所以才换成2－3NL
，然后ACTION一下就好很多。不过确实是这样，我这个赌场ACTION一般都很好，像我这
种AGGRESSIVE的还是比较适合玩这种STRUCTURE的GAME，虽然起伏很大，但赢起来也可
以赢很多。刚刚看了一下我的记录，从圣诞VEGAS回来后，我已经有4个＋1000 以上的
SESSION了，但要是1－2就没那么容易了，估计得奋战10几个小时，但2－3一般也就7－
9个小时之间。 |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 11 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 周四的晚上 2/3NL 多少buyin?
3NL
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 12 黄晓明就算了吧，总觉得他很做作，爱耍酷，和唐国强这种实力派的没法比。
我没点开link，但我知道你在说哪手牌。那手牌我觉得主要是Dwan对PeterEastgate 太
了解了，换作是Phil Ivey，他是死都不会FOLD的，估计他会RERAISE一下来搞清楚DWAN
是不是真有牌，但PeterEastgate从来就比较保守。只能说是对的BLUFF遇上对的人。
Barry folded也是因为他后面有Peter, Peter folded 是因为他知道他要call了Dwan
的TURN BET,那估计他也得CALL他的RIVER SHOVE，他也不想把自己整个STACK都搭在那
手牌里。这种BLUFF在这种HIGH LEVEL的GAME里很容易成功，但在1－2NL 或 1－3NL就
没什么作用。有一次我知道对方是KK 或 AA，heads up. FLOP我CHECK, 他BET 15， 我
CALL。TURN马上就来了第三张方块，我CHECK，他继续BET，我RAISE 他到100，他想半
天，CALL了。他是AA，但也没方块，不知道他到底CALL什么，如果不认为我有FLUSH，
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 13 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 周四的晚上 Nice job!!
3NL
3NL |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 14 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 周四的晚上 是和NL没什么差别，偶尔我ALL-IN但发现只能再RAISE300，不能全押，但一般这种情况
很少，毕竟两个人都必须是DEEP，然后都是很大的牌才会发生这样的情况。2－3NL和1
－3NL应该是一样的，不过1－3是要比1－2更大一些。
貌似 |
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g******s
发帖数: 211 | 15 Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
there
was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size... 阅读全帖 |
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k**********s
发帖数: 6409 | 16 SLR-Like Smaller and lighter than SLR; uses removable lenses
1. DMC-GH3
2. DMC-G6K
3. DMC-G5K (CR recommended)
4. E-M5
5. NX300
6. DMC-GF6K (CR recommended)
7. SLT-A57K
8. NEX-3NL (CR recommended)
9. NX20
10. SLT-A65VK
松下几乎占了一半了，索尼NEX几乎全军覆没。看来俺只考虑松下的机子（G5)是有些道
理的，除此之外试过SLT也是情有可原的，NEX也确实只有$300的3NL让我有过冲动。如
果录像不理想，我不知道我为什么要这样的机器而不是传统的DSLR。
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 1/3NL, ballys.
active table, UTG (semi aggressive) raised to $15, i called in MP, every one
folded.
flop: Q98 rainbow. UTG bet $30, he got $400, i got $150, what's my move? |
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r********r
发帖数: 60 | 27 Day 4:
白天。
一晚上翻来覆去的想昨天的牌，特别是那个1000多刀的pot。早上7点多就醒了，吃了早
饭出去，看到他还在那里，没敢多呆，就去了bellagio，结果那边1/2NL没有人,
cesars palace的1/3NL也没人，只好回hotel里睡到了10点多。然后去了bellagio, 觉
得那里的人比较tight，我容易发挥自己的优势。没想到真的是有运气这么一说。能记
得有，一把我JJ对KK, flop 3张小牌，我lay down on flop, 损失了60。一把AQs 对AA
, flop Q83, 我也是lay down on flop, 损失了40。然后终于，有一把我Q10s with
position call 一个tight老头15 raise preflop。Flop AKJ, 老头bet 40, 我call 40
, turn blank, 老头bet 70, 我all-in 230, 老头想了想call。我知道他是AK, 满心欢
喜。结果river A。后来还有一把KK preflop 4-bet all-in 220 一个很tight的小子
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r********r
发帖数: 60 | 28 都是9人或者10人桌。还有更高的，不过玩的人很少，好像bellagio最高有10/20或者25
/50的桌，而且晚上也有人玩的样子。其他地方最高也就是2/5NL了。
1/2NL或者1/3NL rake是10%, pot max $5,而bellagio是$4。
2/5NL以上的桌，rake好像不是按%,而是有一个固定值。比如说5/10NL，pot rake是$6-
8的样子。所以玩high limit的话，从rake上来讲比较划算。
，最多一个pot收多少？ |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 29 昨天在local casino玩的一手牌。1－3NL.我的STACK大概有800－900左右。我拿KK在BB
。8个人LIMPED IN。我RAISED TO 20，有6－7个人CALL了。FLOP 7 8 K RAINBOW，我先
说话，怎么办？ |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 30 1-3NL in local casino.9 players.My stack was between 400 to 500. 2 persons
in front of me called with 3 dollars. The early position guy is a middle
aged white man. He is kind of tight and predictable.He had around 300
dollars. The middle position guy is a middle aged Asian man. He just joined
in our table. He bought in with 300 dollars. After watching him playing a
few hands, he seemed to be very aggressive to me.
I had 10 J of hearts on the button. I called 3 dollars. Flop came 9 10 K
with two ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 she plays 1/2, 1/3NL i guess, i'd say $500-1000 or 2-3 full buy-ins at least
.
on a rainy day, you could lose 1K easily before you feel the pain, hehe. i
normally take $500-800 in cash and one ATM card (with high daily withdrawal
limit) with me. this way you don't feel stressed when you run bad. |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 32 没有啊，玩1－3NL也会有deep stack的情况，所以POT CONTROL还是实用的。
职业牌手方向发展？怎么可能？有时连玩两天都觉得很腻，要我天天玩那不痛苦死？而
且我觉得Poker profession 是份很孤独的职业，没什么朋友，因为你不可能和你的桌
上的人交朋友。工作方式也不健康，一直坐着，然后脑力劳动消耗很大，所以我觉得把
poker当作业余爱好还是很不错的。再说，我的水平也远远没达到那个级别，还是发挥
很不稳定。 |
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n****u
发帖数: 498 | 33 自从上次赌场ALLIN之后，心灰意冷,心想去OL POKER碰碰运气，一看结果发现好多网站
都上不去了，幸好Carbon还可以，麻利地存了点钱进去之后，就开始玩0.25/0.5的，玩
了几把发现怎么老输啊，后来观察了一下，好多人都在Preflop和flop就bet到1/2块，
吓走了好多人（包括我），我说过我是超级紧手的啦，结果不能眼睁睁看BB被人吃掉啊
，也开始大量Semi bluff，结果效果也很好，虽然也就是把BB和preflop call的钱赢回
来，但是没输就不错嘛。一个下午收入还行，比我在赌场玩3/6 limit 和1/3NL的效果
还要好，可以长期发展一下哈哈。。
贴一副我觉得很狗屎的牌。
Me SB 0.25 7 T
XX BB 0.50 8 6
FLOP T 7 9
Me Bet 0.5
XX Raise 2.0
Me All in(这里我说明一下，我是看见自己有2对，然后真没想玩这副牌了，想ALL in
吓走他算了。没想到）
XX Call
Turn: J
River:7
我以后再也不敢随便ALL in了，太惊险了，，哈哈哈。。 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 34 I've seen a guy (a young Korean) who won 5000$ in one session at a 1-3NL game
. He won over 10000$ in that week. He was fearless. He bet 300 with 7 high
many times and he likes to show his bluff to the table. That's actually how
he won all the money, because nobody believed him. Even the biggest nit
called his preflop all in with only 10 J when he actually had KK. He kept
telling me that it is good to show people his bluff because everyone would
pay him off when he actually has a hand, which is ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 35 Yeah, it was 1-3NL with 300 max buyin. That was the biggest win I've ever
heard of. I wasn't playing with him in that session. I was playing with him
the session before that. When I came back one day later, everyone (dealers,
players) was talking about his big win. Later he came back to the poker room
and confirmed that to me. He said his stack was so huge that he didn't have
space to put his cards. It was ridiculous. I then asked him if he won over
10000 in the last few days, and he said yes. H... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 36 人常道，岁月是把杀猪刀，一刀又一刀。去年AC大会的寒冬热浪填坑忙，犹在眼前，春
花秋月又是一圈。
罪恶之城，和十一年前俺第一次来时一样，灯火辉煌，夜色斓珊，低胸超短裙，前挺后
蹶，媚眼如丝。这十几年，东岸到西岸的飞，闲了一年两次，忙了两年一次，细细数来
，这已经是第十次！(靠！泥马不是赌鬼投胎是啥子？)
11/23 (周三)
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托地主player的热情接待，搭车直奔strip。哥们儿和俺一个模子捣出来的，长得象也
就罢了，还同岁同身高不同体重。人极豪爽健谈，酒足饭饱，意犹未尽，拎着啤酒就
上旅馆房间，细数一遍版上ID，陈年往事，鸡毛蒜皮，口舌大战...笑岔气。说曹曹到
，谈笑间，某女生带家属到达LV，电话中自称疲惫不堪，需恶补休息云云(你信么，反
正俺是不信)。
夜间俺摸黑下楼，直奔下塌的Harrahs的poker room，才刚过12点，冷清，稀稀拉拉2桌
，几个游客和老流氓在恶斗。不过半晌时分，全部散去，俺觉得还不过瘾，又故地重游
去了Flamingo，前年在这里拿了把royal flush，自觉福地也......激战一宿，高不过
一... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 版上目前1/2，1/3NL居多，有七成吧，少数2/5，更少数更大。
俺自己以前主要在大西洋城玩，2/4L，3/6L玩起来的，大概打了有一年，1/2NL目前打
了3年多。现在俺主要在west virginia新开的hollywood casino(以前是个只能赌马的
跑马场)，有时候上delaware park(以前也是跑马场)。
静等DC周围其他新赌场通过table games立法。 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 38 1. 1-3 NL. I had K9o in EP with stack of 300. Several limpers including MP,
who was a 35ish white woman with TAP style. Flop Kh 10h 3x. Checked to me,
and I was thinking about betting, but MP bet 12 out of turn. So then I
checked and called her 12 dollar bet. Everyone else folded. Turn was a Qh. I
checked again, and MP bet 20. I checked my card and I had 9 of hearts. I
knew she didn't have flush or straight, so I still had straight and flush
draw. I knew she didn't have an ace either. I didn't k... 阅读全帖 |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 39 2ND HAND, 感觉他把你放到了flush draw最后没draw到而bluff抢钱，just my 2cent
2. 1-3NL. I had Qs10s utg with over 600 chips. I limped, SB completed and
BB |
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Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 40 1/3NL, I had $400, she had $120. She raised preflop to $60. Not long ago I
had seen her raise preflop with AQ, flopped nothing on the flop, and still
shoved. Everybody else folded. I had AKo. What should I do? |
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Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 41 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
loose players)
1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
有不同想法或意见的请赐教。 |
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Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 42 2/5NL. One 1/3NL table just broke and 3 players moved to our table.
Second hand after they moved to this table. I had AcKc small blind. 4 callers
. No position, so I decided to call.
Flop Ah6hJs. I checked, so did everybody else until the button (a guy just
moved from another table so I didn't know his range). He bet $20. I raised
to $50, another new guy flat called. Others folded until the button who reraised to $160. Both I and the
button had about $450 before this hand. The other guy had abou... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 43 几天没上网，今天终于忍不住了，提着电脑到麦当劳写REPORT。早就想写了，但跑酒店
一问，竟然要网费要15刀一天，也太坑人了吧。所以就忍到今天才来开写。
先交代一下上次VEGAS回来后的状况吧。上次回去之后跑LOCAL打了两次1－3NL，输得很
惨。去的时间不对，是WEEKDAY去的，全是REGULAR，我LOOSE，别人更LOOSE，我
AGRESSIVE，人家更AGRESSIVE.啥牌都CALL,都CHASE。第一次去玩竟然一下就输了900，
一上来就AA 在BB，RAISE到18，7个人CALL。FLOP 3 4 K，两张黑桃，BET 60， 一老头
CALL，其他人FOLD了。TURN 7，估计老头应该是在CHASE FLUSH，应该不会CALL 18
WITH 65，所以就 ALL IN 120，老头立马CALL，亮出5 6 黑桃。我问老头如果7没来他
CALL 不CALL我的ALL-IN，老头说他肯定FOLD。所以觉得自己也没打错，谁知到他会有
STRAIGHT 和FLUSH DRAW呢。马上又RE-BUY 200， QKo 在BTN， UTG RAISE 到17，由于
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 44 打牌我觉得首先要精力集中，吃好，睡好。不要给自己太大压力，太大压力会影响发挥
。技术上我认为一定要AGGRESSIVE。要敢BET，千万不要想我要输了怎么办，只要你认
为RAISE或ALL-IN在这个时候是正确的MOVE，那就不要犹豫，不要想着输了可是好多钱
之类的。昨天我无数次想RAISE他们，因为我知道他们也没HIT FLOP，但都犹豫了，怕
输钱，玩得一点都放不开，最后结局很惨。今天表现好多了，有时我知道对家比我牌大
，但又不是很STRONG， 我一般就RAISE，最后他们都FOLD了。下面举几个例子。
Caesars, 1-3NL. I had stack of 260. I had Q9 on LP. Limped pot. Flop 10s 6s
3d. All checked to me. I bet out 18$. MP super LAG called. all others folded
. Turn was a Kh. He immediately bet 75$. I really didn't think he hit the K.
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 45 这次去好像没那个问题。因为是冬天吧。反正很暖和。而且是1－3NL。难道以前是1－
2NL？
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 46 写的很好，恭喜！
最失败的slow play
还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
I still checked.
river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
KJ.
I lose 400in this hand. What a stupid slow play
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 47 lol. maybe. what is the max buyin in your local 1-3NL game?
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 48 I totally agree with you, cmis91. 1/3 or 2/3 could be more profitable than 2
-5. I played a 5 hours session last night and won 620, and that's after they
hit 2 outers on me twice in 5 minutes, but I still managed to win a good
amount of money. I didn't go all in with anybody last night, but I stole,
squeezed, and value bet a lot. I think on 2/3 people are much easier to read.
I also agree with you that player at 2/5 or 5/10 can improve our play much
faster than in 1/3. But since I am not very se... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 49 10k/month is pretty much a pretty good full time cash game reg in
Vegas in no cap 5-10 or no cap 2-5(does not exist anymore) can make long
term. No matter how good a low stake player can be, I do not think making
10k/month in 1-3NL can be consistent.
With the huge variance in live poker, 2-3 month's result does not
mean much. I have a friend who used to make 150k+ within 2-3 month intervel
when he ran like god, most just in deep stack no cap 5-10 NL game. But his
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 50 Local casino. 2-3NL. I just lost 160 dollars on a triple barrel bluff and I
showed my hand. There was another hand that I raised with a pair and a gut
shot straight draw on the flop of 3 4 7. The other guy flopped the straight.
I got lucky on the turn and we went all in. We ended up chopping the pot,
but everyone knew that I was capable of bluffing with anything. No one on
the table believed me at that time.I was very aware of that. So I decided to
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