m****9
发帖数: 492 | 1 是我肯定fold不掉啊，short stack post flop也不好打，call了4bb基本也等于commit
了，it's a shove for me. |
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d**********t
发帖数: 20415 | 2 4bb没掠夺的话，速巨像配合哨兵高地各种蹭，等射程升好一波反打Ｔ就走了．．． |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 hehe, bubble time, it doesn't matter whether you have 12K or 1.2K, as long
as you finish your blinds and antes won't kill you in the next 3 hands.
the other guy made a typical mistake by calling your 4BB shove with 88, he
got 10BB, which is enough to get prize. winning this 4BB has almost no extra
value to him (but doing others a big favor by KO you).
honestly, 88 is only a coin flip against your shoving range. this top-X-get-
same-prize tourney is special, winning 4BB from you has little value. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 1 1K 11
2 750 3.3 $7.78
3 1.5K 11
4 1K 11
5 1.5K 3.3+3+3 $28.75
6 3K 11+10+10
1号，UTG+1,TJs 12bb open shove，take down。UTG A7o open shove 14bb into QQ,
knockout
2号，大盲位88 14bb 3bet shove rock 2.1x open + a flatter，take down。换桌，
第一把，UTG 16bb open shove with A9o，被两家AJo call到，suckout！紧接着第二
把，AKo，接了16bb 和8bb的两连推，hold！wow！card dead + busy with other
tables ＝ auto ITM，呵呵。hero 大盲位，55 10bb stack call EP 5bb shove>A9s。
UTG+1 TJo 13bb shove，take down。换桌，UTG 33，15bb，看到大小盲均... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 And one crucial skill is to know how to win extra pot when you do not hit,
and you know how to play postflop and against certain player.
One pot is so crucial, it makes it add another 8bb--12bb to your stack.
Suppose you are in BB, have 1010, button raises to 3bb.
you have to call,
flop ace queen 5,
you check,
button raise. to 4BB
Do you fold right away or call? If you call, what should you do next street?
I watch one guy(BB) played, he calls 4bb raise. turn is 8 , BB leads out with 6bb. and win |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 Suppose you are in BB, have 1010, button raises to 3bb.
you have to call,
flop ace queen 5,
you check,
button raise. to 4BB
Do you fold right away or call? If you call, what should you do next street?
I watch one guy(BB) played, he calls 4bb raise. turn is 8 , BB leads out
with 6bb. and wins the pot.
I do not what button has, he may fold kq there.
You win extra big pot there.
I guess another way to play is to lead out after the flop. This way is more safe. Your hand turns 1010 to 27. But go |
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r********r
发帖数: 60 | 8 完全同意版主及大家的意见。平时我基本是不会这样玩的。
昨天没来得及说明当时的情况，现在补充一下。这个在我下家的mylastshot非常喜欢
preflop reraise,我前面大概有10手牌，preflop 80-90%的情况下，如果我limp in
with suited connector or small pocket pairs,他reraise到3.5-4BB,如果我open 3-
4BB with JJ or AQ,他reraise到10-15BB。前面我都忍了，基本都是fold。10把以后，
我觉得他绝对不可能总有好牌。
这把牌preflop call确实有赌气的成分，我当时call之前觉得如果没有flop flush
draw or two pairs就check-fold，然后换桌。虽然他preflop reraise很频繁，我还是
put him on AA,KK,QQ or AK,结果flop出来以后是TPTK,所以我决定演自己是pocket
1010 hit set，于是check-raise on flop,如果他再reraise，我就是easy fold, |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 betting bigger on flop is in general better in 2 aspects:
1) win right here;
2) get a better picture of his range.
on the flop, he only needed to call 4BB more (pre 12BB pot, he bet 4BB on
flop and you raised to 8BB), he's getting 1:6, enough for his 5 outers even
if you indeed had a Qx. well, realistically, i don't think micro stake
players really do this math, but more from expr/donk side, hehe.
if you indeed run into a set, yes, most likely he'll only call to trap, but
still, you only lose (s |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 10 50NL的rush game
我bb, utg+1 limp, everyone fold, I check with Kc2c
flop 8c9c2h, pot 2.5BB
I bet pot, he called,now pot 7.5 BB
Turn As
I check, he check
river Jc
I bet 4BB (pot 11.5BB)
he mini raise to 8BB (so I only need to put in 4BB to call a 15.5BB pot, 4:1
pot odds),
what will you do? What is his holding? |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 11 RUSH 25NL, 最近点背
不过今有所转运. 干掉AA一对.
Prefolp, I bid 4BB, the guy call (if he raise 3x, I would fold. 2x, I would call).
Flop, 99x He is drop dead. I check, he raise 4BB. I call
Turn, blank I check, he raise 8BB, I 2x, he re-raise to 40BB, I shove and he called. |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 12 在网上零零碎碎打了半年，积攒了丰富的被shark虐和虐fish的经验。上个月20NL胜率
稳定，于是觉得可以去live玩一下了。
周五下午以为老板不在，翘班半天。拉着reaver同学奔到了北边的扑克室。人山人海。
腐朽的美帝啊……
打200NL的一桌一半大爷一半小伙，桌上氛围也比较轻松。大爷们打起来全是tell，有
一种回到国内陪长辈打麻将的感觉。打法全是loose passive或tight passive，
preflop raise几乎可以确定TT+。Flop之后没怎么看人raise过。虽然觉得赢大爷们的
钱不太好，但是为了让大爷们明白要活到老学到老的道理，同时教育一下那几个工作日
出来赌博的美国小伙，决定打凶狠一点。打了三个多小时自己估计大概27/20，比在网
上打的稍松凶了一点。最后小赢两百多，正义之情冲塞胸臆，觉得自己作为一个国际友
人，不求利己专门利人，为美帝的精神文明建设作出了自己的贡献。
下面是几把比较大的牌
1. 我 UTG raise 3bb with AKo, 一黑人小伙(25BB)MP1call。Flop J52 rainbow，
我check，小伙唱着... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 13 难道又是超级悲剧的一天
1 4.5k gtd 1r/1a 11 + 10 + 10
2 3k gtd 1a 60 + 55
3 4k gtd turbo 44
4 7.5k gtd 11
5 2.5k gtd 1a 11 + 10
晚上8pm，internet 开始抽筋，果断de-register第六场，试图借邻居的网络完成剩下
的比赛，不想，laptop运行poker软件又碰到问题，折腾到了9点，internet自动恢复，
哥一边问候comcast一边打开poker软件，
3号已经挂了
1号<10bb, 果断shove，挂
2号，尼玛120刀的买入啊！哥断线的时候是10k的chips，回来只有4.8k，且盲注400，
第二手哥小盲，44果断3bet shove utg chips leader的2bb open。对手tank and fold
，嘟嘟哝哝说kq，30% equity都没有，真把哥当rock了。紧接着下一把，哥button
with k5o，15bb stack，ope... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 14 You do not know about online player. No pro plays only 4 tables at one time.
If you can win 4bb/100, I am sure you will have 200K+ per year.
Plus not that much ppl can win 4BB/100 on NL200. I just make a guess, maybe
less than 1000 ppl can do it in this world.
hour |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 4bb or 4BB?
time.
maybe
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 Yourdoom's case is over-dated stuff. I do not think he can make 5BB/100 at
these days.
4 tables on NL200 generally means you are amateur.
But on Zoom table, if you can play NL200 with 4BB/100. It is a piece of cake
to win 200K per year. But I highly doubt that many players can win 4BB/100
in NL200 quoted from your statement.
Plus there are no ppl in zoom game on NL1000 games, it should tell us
everything, there are almost no one can beat that game with 3BB/100. I may
exaggerate.
NL200. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 Yeah. It is my bad to make the typo because I switch constantly between
chinese input style and English input style, and sometimes switch on TN.
when I say 5BB, it means 5bb.
Where do you find Yourdoom's result? Do you mean this ?
http://www.highstakesdb.com/poker-deal-yourdoompoker.aspx
To be fare, I do not think it is legit, since the sample is too small.
Although I have not played that much hands, I do know one good session will
increase your win rate from 0BB/100 to 4BB/100 if your sample si... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 18 就算有个人到MDL找到了fryking那也不说明这个不是马甲啊
这样吧，我和你赌1000刀，你在ACR上NL100到不了4bb/100，如果你五万手牌能到4bb/
100，那不管是不是马甲，我佩服你厉害，输你1000刀。要是到不了，不管是不是马甲
都是吹牛，你输我1000刀。
敢赌的话我们交换电话，每次你打牌我开软件记录，怎么样？ |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 19 似乎哥每次升级，第一个session都要遭受3个buyin的打击，这次也不例外。印象较深
的两手牌，决定了哥悲剧的走向。
hand 1，哥btn跟注CO的open，flop有draw 同花面，对手cbet，哥call，turn T，成同
花，对手一个大barrel，哥call，river blank，pot里65bb，对手2/3第三barrel，哥
推，对手tank call with set ten
hand 2，limp pot，哥在btn位with 44，flop 4s6s9s，pot 4bb，check到哥，哥bet
3bb，one caller，turn 4，pot大约10bb吧，对手check，哥bet 4bb，对手call，
river 7s，对手tank然后直接bet 50bb。哥心里有点小纠结，但是还是reshove了大概
总共100bb，对手秒call
艾玛，哥真的hate life了 |
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s*****c
发帖数: 25 | 20 用纳什均衡来分析open raise size，可谓妙论也。加个蛇足吧，其实open的size也是
不是处于均衡而一成不变的。一方面当然是table dynamic（比如新来一个calling
station)，另一方面是平衡和迷惑对手。（如果只是中短筹码，其实拿到强牌，算算怎
样把SPR打下来就行了。主要讨论下深筹码。）
首先，一个人的习惯是容易被观察的。比如一个紧手，投机牌喜欢3bb-4bb而大牌喜欢
用5bb-8bb open raise。好，那跟他玩了一段时间之后，每次他做6bb+的raise, 我就
给他90%的大牌比率和10%投机牌比率，这对于之后narrow他的range非常有用。从反方
面看，自己做open raise的时候，就应该注意平衡，在大raise里面也要加入投机牌。
其次，是一个EV的问题，在你的牌力领先的时候，你总是希望对方多支付一点。可在深
筹码的游戏里面，即使你手持AA，你又有多大把握在翻牌后能继续领先呢？是的，概率
告诉我们，AA被打败机会不会超过20%，但一旦被打败而你将很难放弃，最终往往要支
付一个大的彩池给对方。所以即使手持AA做一个大的open... 阅读全帖 |
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p*******t
发帖数: 31 | 21 aprilshower MM, 因为我在加拿大做的，我不清楚美国的4bb意味什么，所以我只能大
致说说我的情况。我这儿按分裂的情况分为5个等级（可能是分裂的细胞数不同，医生
给我看过图片，5个等级有很明显的不同，但是我还是搞不明白具体是啥)，每个等级又
从1-5打分。day5的胚胎我移植了2个，一个是第4级，好一些，一个是第2级，差一些，
每个都只给了2.5的平均分。个人估计是那个第4级的在肚子里发育的成功的，因为我还
有第1级的胚胎，医生都不屑于给我冰冻，所以我没有备份。如果你4bb中的4和我的第4
级含义一样的话，你的胚胎比我强，应该有戏。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 And one crucial skill is to know how to win extra pot when you do not hit,
and you know how to play postflop and against certain player.
One pot is so crucial, it makes it add another 8bb--12bb to your stack.
Suppose you are in BB, have 1010, button raises to 3bb.
you have to call,
flop ace queen 5,
you check,
button raise. to 4BB
Do you fold right away or call? If you call, what should you do next street?
I watch one guy(BB) played, he calls 4bb raise. turn is 8 , BB leads out with 6bb. and win |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 23 Suppose you are in BB, have 1010, button raises to 3bb.
you have to call,
flop ace queen 5,
you check,
button raise. to 4BB
Do you fold right away or call? If you call, what should you do next street?
I watch one guy(BB) played, he calls 4bb raise. turn is 8 , BB leads out
with 6bb. and wins the pot.
I do not what button has, he may fold kq there.
You win extra big pot there.
I guess another way to play is to lead out after the flop. This way is more safe. Your hand turns 1010 to 27. But go |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 26 That dude did have a high strike rate, but he had only 1K
but 4BB. Also, Leyland pulled him out when his pitch count
was still quite low, because Leyland saw he was making some
bad pitches yet Indians couldn't make him pay.
So I can safely assume it was just the case that most Indians
swang at balls again and again. The other day I saw an Indian
fan described their typical game: "Lofton made a quality at bat,
and drew a walk. Then Blake came in, swinging at the first pitch
to pop out. Then Sizem |
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l****8
发帖数: 1843 | 28 原来也是记录:
A.J. Burnett joined Todd Stottlemyre as the only starting pitchers in World
Series history to go two innings or less while allowing at least six runs
and four walks. Stottlemyre did so for the Blue Jays in Game 4 in 1993. |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 29 CC game 1, 4 innings, 6H, 4BB, 5ER. Better than AJ? LOL. I agree
he's a good choice for that right field joke, but that's about it.
There are tons of better pitchers.
kept |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 30 9月2日在Fenway,7IP, 0ER, 4H, 4K, 4BB打败Lackey (7.1IP, 3ER, 7H, 1BB, 5K)
老虎3:0胜
接下来两场红袜打败了Scherzer（2:1），外加一场20:4. |
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f*******e
发帖数: 8974 | 31 我觉得dick's 好deal不多，而且不同的地方店里面clearance的东西也不一样
100以内的组合说不好啊，我觉得买个sahara的轮子（一般79.99，好像1000FD是69.99
），杆子便宜点吧
ball bearing的问题我也不懂，使用中也没有明显差别（pflueger 10bb vs shimano
4bb），可能是我钓得太少太单调
去ebay买吧，现在有bing cashback |
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n***8
发帖数: 203 | 32 刚进手了一个Tatula SV TWS 10XS 的轮，粗略根以前买的BlackMax 3 Combo 的轮比较
下：
Price: 1 vs 4
Ratio: 6:4:1 vs 8:1: 1
Weight: 7.3 oz vs 7.2 oz
Drag: 18 lb vs 13.2 lb
Frame: plastic vs aluminum
Line capacity: 12/145 vs 14/100
Bearings: 4BB + 1 RB vs 7BB(2CRBB) + 1RB
CRBB = Super Corrosion Resistant Ball Bearing, BB = Stainless Steel Ball
Bearing, RB= Roller Bearing
Bearing 上Tatula 明显占优。Drag BlackMax 更大。两轮大小查不多。... 阅读全帖 |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 33 that's ok, my bad beats are certainly worse than yours,
floped nut straight, raised the donkey on the flop and make him commit
50% of his chips and he hit his flush on turn.
low trip ran into top trip, top two pairs ran into low trip, blabla,
88 raised 4bb, my AA reraise him 12bb, floped J22, I bet pot, 88 pushed all
in and hit 8 on the river.
all happened last night, hehe. |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 34 Every donks can win this game. That what I felt after suffering devasting
beats in FTOPS. Was chipleader in one of the events when 1/3 fields left.
Blinds getting high and shortstacks started to push. I doubled 2 shortstacks
, AQ lost to A6 and QK lost to K10. Then I got AK in BB, every1 folded to SB
who completed. I rasised
to 4BB and SB reraised me 12BB with Q2 puttimg me on a steal. The donkey
called my allin and flopped a duece.
Checking ur tool in Stock board, Great work man.
Msg me a pic |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 35 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - damn well, that's ok, look at the fate of my quads last night:
77 in bb, one limper, sb raised 4bb, I called, limper called.
floped AA7,
it went check, check, half pot bet, call, raise to 1.5 pot,
fold, reraise to push me allin, I called,
turn was 7, and certainly river was Ace, sb showed down AK.
donkey |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 36 你俩一个12个bb,一个4bb
基本就是赌命了 |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 37 cash game里面只要我碰到比7小的pocket。。。只要不是late position,全部limp。。。
有人raise 4bb以上就fold。。。撞上set太难了。。。 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 38 Ak all-in 太正常了,问题是一个个Q5,J3, 84, 都all-in,反正你要么别加入pot,反正
无论你是limp in还是raise 3-4bb,最终肯定有人all-in,你不all-in就是fold preflop
,结论就是你就是preflop等有稍微好点的大牌,然后听天由命,这有啥技术你说说
not
than
and |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 39 It is final table. And I can see a flop, and check fold. still have 12bb
left, which is good enough, little below average, but that is ok.
No need to play 5050 there.
I do make call with 48suited against other people's allin sometimes, but
usually I have him covered. ( :)I did that yesterday in that tourney, I
raise 2.4bb utg with 48suited, guy re-raise allin with 9bb using aqo, I
called immediately since that is bubble time and I get him covered.)
However, I usually will not risk my whole tourn |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 40 Lucky enough, I just one rebuy , one addon.
Because my other game goes deep, I do not pay attention to this game at all. Just folding, folding, folding. And my chips drop quickly, maybe only 4bb left, close to bubble time. Then I just go allin utg with K7o. No one calls, and get some blinds.
And later on, thanks for fryking2's support, I do not make much mistake. Only one hand I have 33, I lose half stack, it is a big mistake, I should only lose 2.5BB, instead of 15BB there. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 41 great job man! crouts and wellworth8 both finished deep too? haha.
all. Just folding, folding, folding. And my chips drop quickly, maybe only
4bb left, close to bubble time. Then I just go allin utg with K7o. No one
calls, and get some blinds.
Only one hand I have 33, I lose half stack, it is a big mistake, I should
only lose 2.5BB, instead of 15BB there. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 42 the greatest part is, pokeryjj was down to 6000 chips at one time, blinds at
600/1200, hehe, blinded out any time...
question still remains: do you still feel withdrawals cause bad beats? haha.
all. Just folding, folding, folding. And my chips drop quickly, maybe only
4bb left, close to bubble time. Then I just go allin utg with K7o. No one
calls, and get some blinds.
Only one hand I have 33, I lose half stack, it is a big mistake, I should
only lose 2.5BB, instead of 15BB there. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 wellworth is the guy (which you said)whom will be blinded out very soon,
left 3-4BB
Crouts got lucky also. When 6 ppl left, he allin from cut off with A9o with
all his chips. A10 in the bb called. floped 9. |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 44 congrat!
all. Just folding, folding, folding. And my chips drop quickly, maybe only
4bb left, close to bubble time. Then I just go allin utg with K7o. No one
calls, and get some blinds.
Only one hand I have 33, I lose half stack, it is a big mistake, I should
only lose 2.5BB, instead of 15BB there. |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 45 小对现在是我的major leak 来的。有时候扔不掉牌。 还在努力的练习。
我打NL25。 凡事按最简单不头痛的打法走。
preflop
22--99 有人raise, 对方short stack. 跟到3bb. 对方full stack. 跟到4bb. 每
加一个跟进的人，可以放宽1bb.
22--99 没人raise. just call at all position except button. Raise 3bb on
button.
1010. 看心情。
JJ. major leak. very aggressive preflop. will try to buy the blinds.
flop
22-1010. hit set, aggressive in most cases will slow play on safe board.
usually try to get all in. don't hit set, try to check down. run as soon
as facing any aggressio |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 46 Sometimes 2-3 people limp in when I'm on button or cutoff with hands like
A3o. I choose to fold rather than raise or limp in. Is this a right play? I
worry that raise may get me in trouble and limp in may get me in a bigger
trouble (for example, hit an A on flop but it's only the second or even
third best hand).
If I raise 4BB, I know almost for sure at least two people will call me (if
not reraise). And playing A3 multi way is too hard even with position. How
do you think?
.
Unless |
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t******b
发帖数: 56 | 47 Do you have a lot of history with him? If not, you have to give him
this pot, it is just too hard to play big pot out of position.
His 3bet size is 11BB, your 4bet size is 30BB, which is too large.
You only need to bet about 26BB to force him either fold or shove.
That extra 4BB you put in the pot doesn't do you any good. In fact,
it will give him better odds to call, or less needed fold equity
to shove because of the larger dead money.
Generally speaking, for 100BB play, 4bet bluffing is not pr |
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发帖数: 3398 | 48 这周末打cash game赢了点钱, 就拿出200刀参加周日的这个比赛.
4000多人, 倒在520名, 还好拿回来了报名费. 最后剩 4BB的时候AKs all in, 被big
blinds call, 丫就9Q, 最后两对赢了我. 丫运气也太好了, 前面他也就8bb, 然后中
间位置拿了7T就莫名其妙all in, 被button 一对QQ call了, 借过丫flop就来个
straight! |
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发帖数: 3398 | 49 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨天亏了 赢了钱没有及时跑， 本来一把JTs flush净赚800， 结果后面很快两把就输去. 一把AK
， flop AQx，有个flush的draw, 我有position, 前面那人bet $40, $80, river $240
, river没有flush的可能， 我想了半天，还是跟了， 觉得他有bluff的可能。结果他
是QQ。
第二把， UTG bet 4bb =$24, button called, I have QQ at big blinds, called.
Flop, 4s6sJh, I bet $48, UTG folded, button $600 all in! 我觉得他如果set, 不
会这么早all in, 这种all in 更像nuts flush draw的打法， 如果那样， 我赢面大，
然后我就call 了。结果他AA。妈的。
本来赢来800,正好1点多， 睡觉的时候， 唉， 我手欠， 非得再来几把， 结果800没
了不说， 最后还输出去500。晕死了。
悔不听老大的话， 赢了钱没跑， 即使不跑， 不是nuts也不该和人硬来的。
不过这两人我都不是很熟悉， |
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