f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 as long as you're making your goal at a level, you'll be fine.
for me, grinding at rush 25NL is fine:
1) i can reach my ironman goal in less time than 50NL regular;
2) i get to play much more hands and learn more skills;
3) i reach my $1K/month goal reltatively easily.
some
just |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 好得很，这家伙属于还有脑子的，以前也打50NL regular，属于加把劲可以吓跑的那种。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 one simple question, since i don't play much on PS yet.
how much time/effort is needed for supernova in general? like 50NL, hours/
day, etc.
VPP) |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 i still play regular 50NL on other sites, like 20%.
i might start to play more on PS too. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 nice run!
but it could be very shaky too, some said online stake is like 1/4 in live,
so if we play 1/2NL in live, we should at most play 50NL online, if
multitabling, even smaller stake.
rush poker is even higher stake actually.
yeah, european guys are wild.
200.
happened
actions
call |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 not just rush, it's from $50NL (other sites, doyles, cake and AP) and some
tourneys too.
actually in rush i lost about $100 in last 2 days. |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 7 rake at 50nl hu is about 10bb/100, judge for yourself if you can beat it,
lower stake would have even bigger rake%. Best player (very very best
player, I mean durrrr caliber player, although against very bad player,
someone like me could probably win just as effective as durrrr would be) can
beat very bad opponent for maybe 50bb/100 without considering rake. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 8 PS is more honest. They have no 50NL HU cash games, since the rake is too
high.
back
up |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 get $1K and move up, i feel 50NL fits your style well, and ppl take bets/
raises more seriously there, or in some sense, more predicatable actually. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 What is the buy-in for 50NL? Wondering whether to have fun once or not.
I see you open 5/7 table at FTP, all above 400NL. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 I guess it is enough. I have played 50NL using 288$ before. And goes up to
3k before.
Cash game and sng are quite stable game(20buyin is good enough). If playing
MTT, 20buyin is in-sufficient.
The same thing is Furgson's 1$--->10K run. But that is based on the player's
skill level is high enough. If I have "ike"'s skill level, i can run from
100$-->100K$ in 3 months, but I could not have his skill, so...
en |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 12 huh? buyin for 50nl is $50. Actually on UB, you can buyin 200bb deep but I
am usually buyin for 100bb at the moment to lower variance. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 14 I think it's just bad luck. NL 50 is definitely easier!!! |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 we do not welcome you at NL 25 anymore.... |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 16 it is 4BB/100 in term if abs $. W/ rake it could be 6BB in $ term. Nice to
try out while making similar money. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 i feel i could do better, need some adjustments. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 19 So you predict you will go broke in NL50? LOL |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 not likely, hehe, i learned my bankroll management lessons, i'd play 25NL
long before reaching that point. i have about $4K at ftp, many ppl with this
roll are playing at least 100NL.
the cafe (where my company is) owner's son is a big fan of poker too, we
talk about it a lot and he borrowed the dusty book from me... he plays 100NL
at bodog with a roll of $450! he's a good player but still i told him it's
a gamble. he's a typical young college gun, who plays at AC (trop) a lot and
even invites m |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 21 I had my rakeback deposited to my account yesterday and it was aournd $400.
I didn't realized I generate almost $1400 rake for FTP in April alone.
Anyway, I immediately withdrew $350 back to my bank account and play only $
50 in micro Rush poker. As promised, I will only play limited poker from now
on and play only for fun. Try to build a roll from $50 and see how far I
can go.
As for underground poker, my friends came to numerous underground poker
rooms in NYC. I was thinking about going but af |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 i might go over memorial weekend. but it is not set in stone yet. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 23 50NL rush今天晚上不错，几乎没有严重错误，不少great laydown和read (88 busted
over played AKo)，开始有点感觉了。
The Poker Blueprint这书虽然讲的主要是100NL 6 max，但是可以借用的思想挺多，推
荐。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 $90 for last week (5 playing days mostly), 50NL rush, making my 1K goal
easier if i can hold up somewhere around 5BB/100, lol.
july would be interesing with mid-year bonus, i got 5 x 100 (iron) + 1 x 75
(gold) = $575 coming, need to play a ton to clear for sure. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 25 punishing limpers become quite popular lately in 50NL (definitely "too"
often than in 25NL), so i'm planning to limp with some AAs, lol. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 10bb/100 at 50NL? no, i'm not there yet, lol.
new record for rakeback this week, $125, would i make $5K/year from it? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 stop flattering! lol, i'm nowhere near a master at all, if ever. tomorrow
wil be the end of this month, and i fell short of my monthly goal, 50NL so
far to me is still a surviving game, don't laugh at me if tomorrow i go back
to 25NL.
got a letter from someone, and i indeed feel the pain poker caused to some
ppl. sigh, poker is really a time consuming game for most of us, and in the
end, ups and downs, we're not making much $ at all, if not losing pants.
of
time
feeling
t |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 28 不好赚,肯定没grind 50NL rush好赚啊,呵呵 |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 29 I become a winner almost right away at 50nl and I never had much trouble
moving up except 2 levels, 400nl and 2000nl. I thought about hiring a
coaching but never really did for holdem, I have watched plenty of videos
and had a few good poker friends to discuss poker along the way, we pretty
much coached each other as we moved up in stakes. I don't remember when I
started getting training site membership, maybe when I was playing 100nl or
something (so like 3 weeks after I started playing serio |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 30 赞br management思想。但是同样的比例（50+ max buyin）适用于50NL一下的级别吗？
换句话说
如果我现在br是$100,是不是要在NL2刷到￥250再上NL5？
beats |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 31 You can beat this level for sure. I barely can beat 50NL, but the BB/
100hands is super low.
just getting really lucky. When is the downswing going to come
winning streak continues. |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 32 感觉和大家差不多，25nl和50nl几乎一样。
但是不适合当grinder，我只能开一桌，慢慢打，
桌子开多了选择就很难最优了，能偷的check，
能raise的call，反应不过来。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 看来你和俺有个通病，某session输多了收不住，明显最大几个输的比最大几个赢的都
要多，正负相抵，白忙乎。
不过话说回来，一月$1K，以投入的时间，stake较小(50NL)来讲，绝对是above
average了，俺瞎猜在前10-20%之间，加上rakeback，bonus，和火爆的月，一年冲2W还是
有希望的。
看cardplayer上面讲，其实很多pros也并不象那么有钱，比如某人career tournament
winnings有7M，实际上也就2M左右的真正到了荷包，IRS拿了很多，背后back up的抽头
也很厉害(否则他们根本玩不起动则5K，10K的buy-in，tournament本身也是撒大网，比
较不定的事情)。
象前面谁贴的那个PS的SNE，才8K的bankroll，打24桌100NL，一年没怎么赢利，全靠
SNE的$120K奖励，真不容易，哪天点背点，可能1/3甚至更多的bankroll就飞了，除非
人家纪律性真是很强很强。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 34 water~~~~~~~~~~~
saw quite a few got big stack at 50NL and some played at 100NL rush, how
well did you do? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 35 I play 50NL HU games. But I find no one wants to play with me in doyle rooms
. When I join the table, and post the SB, those guys sit out immediately.
Although I lose some money(for example, 30bb) to certain guys, but they
refuse to play with me.
Sick!
But the HU is most profitable game of cash games. I like to play a ton of
hands, HU satisfies me. And it is the only cash game which gives me around
15BB/100. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 36 Nowadays, I have no 6-max games for me,only HU. Pretty fun.
And I am not afraid of 50NL HU regulars.
One thing is how to deal with 3bets, 3bet raise could as high as 20%.
.
an
player i played, i have fairly significant edge over them. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 no way for me, 1000 points/day, 2 rush tables, it's about either 4 hours/
50NL, or 2 hours/100NL. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 38 haha.
I have 7k in ftp. 6k on doyle.
But their business is so huge, can not shut down.
Today, I play on sportsbook. HU 50NL. lost 6 buyin to one guy on one table.
He is regular, has 1k on one table, another 600 on another table, (,300
bucks are from mine). |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 39 俺的不行，主要在25NL混，一天才勉强200点，没有上个月50NL的500点家常便饭一般，
有一天还有1000多点。
时间过了1/3了，任务还没有达到，月底出去玩live，估计更难。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 40 呵呵，不要对革命失去信心。
其实俺和FTP一样，希望通过rush bonus week能够提高长期玩家的数量，rush周之前，
一般黄金时间(美东8，9点左右)，象25NL，50NL这样最popular的stake，也就是300左
右的active玩家(不算sit out，wipe out的，呵呵)，这个pool还是太小，也就是30桌
，长期打的，要不了一周大家就很熟悉了，也不能连着pop re-steal人家3次，5次不是
？象100NL和目前最高的200NL，一般才100多200人，这种pool，还不如去打常规的，至
少read还多一些。
俺一般不会留250BB怎么大stake在桌上，连100BB full buy-in也是最近的事，double
up了肯定cash out再回来，一般人都没有100BB那么多，所以风险较大，如果正好和另
一个大stake碰上冤家牌。说到底，还是积小胜为大胜的道理，咱们有edge，但是并不
是那么大。
ra
K
cuteoff
or
bonus |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 41 无聊，看了下25NL，50NL player pool里面的玩家，同时开3，4桌的占了差不多1/3，
而总人数又下降到rush week之前的水平，加上2桌里面混着的那些某某某，所以大家觉
得不好打也是正常。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 42 well, almost 100K hands, i still can't make real money (other than bonus,
rakeback) from 50NL rush, so i have to agree, lol. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 Sounds to me, you do not play a lot of tournies.
My tournies run poorly also.
Rush poker does not serve me well. get -34BB/100 on 25NL. -10BB/100 on 50NL.
Play a lot of Cash HU NL, I am a winner on that.
Play some HU SNG, I am a winner also.
Will switch to MTT next month.
to switch to grinding (such as RUSH). |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 44 I play many MTT/Stlt. That is where I get 1.5K gone. After get a few small
final-table, I try to loose up but have not done well yet(build up a loose
image, and have not known how to cash in that). Plus, I need some study. O.W.
my play does not catch up.
RUSH is for TAG in general. If you play LAG, it becomes hard field to you.
RUSH 25NL, -34BB/100 means pretty much that. I remember you push w/ middle
pair and allin w/ KJo alike. At that way, you are winner at TURBO SNG and HU.
50NL. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 45 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
fryking (赤道企鹅) 于 (Thu Jul 22 23:28:41 2010, 美东) 提到:
无聊，看了下25NL，50NL player pool里面的玩家，同时开3，4桌的占了差不多1/3，
而总人数又下降到rush week之前的水平，加上2桌里面混着的那些某某某，所以大家觉
得不好打也是正常。
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Lundon (Lundon) 于 (Fri Jul 23 01:29:53 2010, 美东) 提到:
rush 里面 player stats
在我 holdem manager 记录里 hand histories >2000 hands and > 8bb/100 就没有。
现在rush poker profit 主要是 bonus + rakeback 了
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Windstormm (Windstormm) 于 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 46 bottleneck, although 4 buy-ins down is too normal, lol.
at current skill/stress level, if you can build a bigger roll from 50NL,
just do it, then take some small shots at NL100 (say, set aside $500), this
is how most pros grow up.
we have to feel like nothing for 4 buy-ins at a certain level, or we're
playing way beyond our capabilites.
37k
回来。。。
牌丫一c bet 就跑了. 有一medium strength top pair 的牌,又被人raise flop big,
and pot turn.. KK slow play flat preflop.. raise flop call reraise all in on
223 board, |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 47 lol, yeah, Alan in his book "poker winners are different", calls this as "
pain threshold", once you pass it, you don't feel as much pain even you may
lose more.
you guys are already way ahead of me. i'm still struggling with 50NL rush,
almost 120K hands now, relying on bonus and rakeback, shameless.
confused about how to play poker? lol, you're not alone. the only thing
comforting me now is that i haven't lost a penny in any month for the last 2
years! even as low as $40 "profit" for this jan., |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 48 live and online, if we use 1/2NL and 50NL (more likely 25NL) to compare here.
live, for example, you rarely see ppl do squeeze play, while it's almost a
standard play online. or another example, online, before, 4-bet light is
almost impossible, now you see ppl do this at least to some degree.
so the nature of the games is somehow different, which requires us to adjust
too.
SCs are actually one of ed miller's favorites. even old tight gun like bob
ciaffone suggests to squeeze with 56s once in whi |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 49 good, now you feel the same pain i felt at NL50, haha, such a shame when i
looked at my result for last few months, without bonus and rakeback, i
barely made any money.
well, i'd say if you're a big winner at 50NL, just play more there with
taking shots at NL100 here and there.
after all, it's a game to make money/fun, not to ruin your spirit for a day.
you can see how happy i was crushing $0.8 satellites and 3.3SNGs on the
side, haha.
yet |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 不要忽悠哥 i auto buy-in 89-93BB, hehe.
HM, yes, i don't find it very useful at 50NL rush yet, maybe i'm wrong but i
trust my notes better.
sounds |
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