y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 1 zz from SAR
Sony’s next A7III camera will be announced in October-November. And it will
be in the same pricing class of the soon to be announced new 6DmarkII (full
specs and images at CanonWatch). So here is the question: Will the A7III
trump the 6D mark II? Let’s compare the rumored specs:
1.Sensor (A7III wins):
The Canon has a 26MP sensor and the A7III will have a new 24MP sensor. I
expect the Sony sensor to beat the Canon.
2.Autofocus (A7III wins):
The Canon has Dual pixel CMOS AF and 45 poin... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 2 SD from SAR
"
Good news folks. A second trusted source (Thanks!) confirmed the validity of
the rumorwe posted two days ago. The A7III is coming this fall and he
adds:
a7mk3 is on the way. 24mpx with improved af system, touch screen, joystick (
like a9) and 4k recording. Its on the roadmap after 135mm and 400mm (this
two lens are very likely to be announced together).
So to sum up these are the A7III specs:
– New 24 MP sensor
– First source said it hs “SameSony A9autofocus system without the
20fp... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 3 A trusted source who gave me as first the100mm STF lens specsjust
did send me the first A7III specs:
1) First of all he confirmed what other sources already told me: The camera
will be announced this fall (sometimes between October-November).
2) He also confirmed the A7III has a new 24MP sensor (seems like it has the
same Sony A9 sensor)
3) It also has the exact same Sony A9 autofocus system
4) But unlike the Sony A9 the A7III has NOT the crazy fps rate
Overall this sounds like a “budget Sony A9... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 4 zz from SR
(SR3) First possible specs of the Sony A7III make it look like a “low cost
” version of the Sony A9
"I got these early specs of the a7Ⅲ that will be launched at earliest this
Fall (there is still a chance it might get announced in early 2018). It’s
from a good source but he himself told me that he cannot be 100% sure these
specs will be confirmed on the final camera:
24Mpx
6fps with mechanical shutter
ISO up to 51200 (expanded to ISO 204800)
693 phase detection AF (which is same as a9... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 5 A7iii 24p是6k超采的4k，我不知道可换相机里除了A6300/6500，A9，还有哪个能做到
这个。A7iii比A6500提高的是视频的果冻有所减轻。
你r3 full frame 4k的画质肯定是赶不上A7iii的。
6k超采数据量太大，30p就只能有些crop，但是1.2的crop（这时也有5k的超采）已经比
佳能单反全系都强了（佳能目前还都是1:1取样）。
24p，180度设置好快门，除非你拍运动特别快的物体，否则都是很流畅的。
r3连拍时，把人眼和人像识别关掉，就用广域或区域afc追焦，效果会好很多。眼控还
要连拍的话，需要stacked sensor的机型。
: A7m3发布的时候我一听参数就庆幸买了R3了，就是听到30p要crop。我当
初不考
虑A6500
: 的理由就是讨厌他们优化了24p却在30p拆烂污，搞crop，居然过了两年还
是这样。
: 那些所谓的大师喜欢拍24p，把24p吹成dreamy，艺术性，filmic。。把
30p/60i
贬称为
: “看起来电视感太浓，像肥皂剧的感觉”。。这些都不管... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 6 A7iii 24p是6k超采的4k，我不知道可换相机里除了A6300/6500，A9，还有哪个能做到
这个。A7iii比A6500提高的是视频的果冻有所减轻。
你r3 full frame 4k的画质肯定是赶不上A7iii的。
6k超采数据量太大，30p就只能有些crop，但是1.2的crop（这时也有5k的超采）已经比
佳能单反全系都强了（佳能目前还都是1:1取样）。
24p，180度设置好快门，除非你拍运动特别快的物体，否则都是很流畅的。
r3连拍时，把人眼和人像识别关掉，就用广域或区域afc追焦，效果会好很多。眼控还
要连拍的话，需要stacked sensor的机型。
: A7m3发布的时候我一听参数就庆幸买了R3了，就是听到30p要crop。我当
初不考
虑A6500
: 的理由就是讨厌他们优化了24p却在30p拆烂污，搞crop，居然过了两年还
是这样。
: 那些所谓的大师喜欢拍24p，把24p吹成dreamy，艺术性，filmic。。把
30p/60i
贬称为
: “看起来电视感太浓，像肥皂剧的感觉”。。这些都不管... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 7 "It’s hard to be spot on the Sony roadmap and it’s even harder this year
because we still have to evaluate the damage caused by the earthquake in
Kumamoto. But let’s try to sum up what could be announced by Sony from now
til end 2016:
Very likely to be introduced in 2016:
Sony A9 (70+ megapixel, bigger body, dual XQD slot)
Sony A99II (A-mount, trimmed for sport and not for high megapixel)
Uncertain:
A5300 (not sure about that camera coming soon)
A7III (it may be released in 2017 only)
Unlikely t... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 8 我觉得也不可能是A9的传感器，不过也许是一个低频没有stacked的版本。
A7iii应该不可能有20fps的连拍和blackout free的EVF。
不过对焦和视频的升级是可以期待的。
有joystick这点有些意外，这样的话也许会有A9大容量的电池，这个应该不错。
昨天刚有消息说6DII要发布了，刚刚这个时段出A7iii的rumor，确实有点阴谋论的感觉。 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 9 zz from SAR
"Sony will have a product announcement for the WPPI show which starts on
February 26. We have yet no reliable info about WHAT product they will
announce.
All i got so far is the following rumor from a new source. This means you
should take this with a grain of salt !!!
The specs sounds reasonable and indeed the latest A7II price drops created
plenty of room for the new camera. I think there is a good chance Sony will
announce the A7III at Cp+.
Rumored Sony A7III specs:
24 mpx sensor.... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 10 "Previously a source told us the A7 mark III is due for a Q2 release. We
received a small update:
A European source confirmed the release schedule. He added the camera will
start shipping in mid 2017 and the yet “unconfirmed” price for Europe will
be 2299 The new A7III will not replace the current A7II. The A7II will
continue to be produced and sold for a lower price tag."
zz from SAR |
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t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 11 希望Sony不是很懒地直接把A9的sensor下放A7iii。本来就是牺牲DR追求高速度的感光
器，如果直接下放并阉割，那真的只有再憋半年期待A7Riii了。 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 12 zz from SAR
"The big CP+ show will start on March 1. And there are three Sony cameras
due for an update:
Sony A5100.
Sony discontinued the A5000 and this might be a good sign the new A5300
could be announced soon. Or will Sony’s futur APS-C line just be made of
A6xxx cameras?
Sony A7II.
The A7III is definitely coming in 2018. But we can’t be sure yet if it’s
coming at Cp+ already. It will have 24MP, nearly same A9 autofocus system
and use the new Sony battery
Sony A7sII.
The Sony A7sIII will not... 阅读全帖 |
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a******d
发帖数: 955 | 14 为啥？我觉得r3的像素一般拍人像的话太高了没必要，对于存储卡还有电脑上后期都有
压力。高像素是给野马大师这种风光摄影师还有什么产品摄影师准备的
我觉得一般家用，拍拍人，拍一点视频，a7iii完全胜任，性价比更高。这正是这次发
布的震撼，入门的价格，专业的配置还有操控 |
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t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 15 继续跟着起哄：Sony机器仅次于开机慢的最大缺点我觉得是防水。有人做过实验，同样
等级的佳能、尼康DSLR能够通过的水雾测试会把A7Riii从底部渗透。像我这样喜欢用
spider holster或者carryspeed/blackrapids的屁股朝天携带方式，将会遭罪。所以你
可以说Sony相机在这方面只考虑到了把相机套在脖子上的大妈游客们。:D
猜想A7iii不会在这么短的时间内作出实质上的改进，否则就惊艳了。 |
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a******d
发帖数: 955 | 17 为啥？我觉得r3的像素一般拍人像的话太高了没必要，对于存储卡还有电脑上后期都有
压力。高像素是给野马大师这种风光摄影师还有什么产品摄影师准备的
我觉得一般家用，拍拍人，拍一点视频，a7iii完全胜任，性价比更高。这正是这次发
布的震撼，入门的价格，专业的配置还有操控 |
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t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 18 继续跟着起哄：Sony机器仅次于开机慢的最大缺点我觉得是防水。有人做过实验，同样
等级的佳能、尼康DSLR能够通过的水雾测试会把A7Riii从底部渗透。像我这样喜欢用
spider holster或者carryspeed/blackrapids的屁股朝天携带方式，将会遭罪。所以你
可以说Sony相机在这方面只考虑到了把相机套在脖子上的大妈游客们。:D
猜想A7iii不会在这么短的时间内作出实质上的改进，否则就惊艳了。 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 19 怎样算颜色好？
A7III应该和R3还有A9直出风格有些像吧，后两个测评和对比应该有不少吧。 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 20 Sony A7III scores 96 points at DxOmark (very close to the A7rIII)
zz from SAR |
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d*********8
发帖数: 2192 | 21 我觉得相机硬件现在差不多进入平台期了 5年前的sensor也就是高感比较差
跟电脑手机一样 进入比拼算法的时代了 现在的对焦 其实也是拼算法
除非镜头有突破
：Sony A7III scores 96 points at DxOmark (very close to the A7rIII)
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t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 22 这不就是1 stop的定义吗。f2差不多比f2.8快一档，正好补偿了A7iii和fuji的噪音差
距。（没有耐心看完整个视频，不知道这句话的出处，不肯定他说的是噪音还是虚化）。
跳着看视频，Tony好像把“APS-C与FF的区别”与“A7iii和X-H1的区别”交替使用，其
实我觉得如果是同样的厂家同样的制造工艺同样的单个像素尺寸，18Mpix的APS-C和
42Mpix的FF感光器的（以噪音定义的）“画质”应该是一样的吧。所以这个测试不能说
明残副机和全副机的差距，只能说明X-H1与A7iii的不同。
A7iii和X-H1的iso12800 vs iso6400比较，严格来说我也不知道是否客观，天知道Sony
有没有偷偷地在机内进行过降噪处理。 |
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 23 不要指望A7III会便宜
出A7III时买A7II才是正道
要买A7III再等几年........... |
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t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 24 A9作为体育机我没说A9本身不好。
但是多次谣传Sony准备很偷懒地把A9的感光器直接下放到全能机A7iii，然后再把牺牲
感光器DR获得的高速连拍阉割掉。这是难以接受的。A9本身再好，这块感光器放到
A7iii里就是没法达到用户（入门）全能机的目的和期望，导致我还得多浪费一年半载
抱着5D3等下一台机器，并且后悔自己为什么不在两年前就买A7r2。
不过现在越来越觉得这个传闻是假的。据说A9感光器成本很高，应该不会简单地直接下
放。希望A7iii的24MP sensor是新技术，至少不要输给A7r2。
d4
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 25 "It’s time for a roundup of the next rumors cameras and lenses. I will
divide them into “rumors from known sources” and “rumors from new sources
”:
Rumors from known sources:
1. Sony High End E-mount camera:
– “The next generation flagship mirrorless camera from Sony will be a
giant leap. It will drop a huge bomb in the imaging industry. It will not be
A7III or A7RIII. It will be a new model above A7 series. I would say A9 (
let’s name it as the new model). So the new A9 will have dual XQD card ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 26 我感觉sony把A6300/6500传感器的规格+对焦和连拍做成全幅给A7iii就够了。
毕竟A9这个传感器为了刷高速实现无黑屏连拍，成本要高很多，对DR也有些影响。
其实我个人希望A7iii的像素能提升些，到达28-30MP比较理想。 |
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a******d
发帖数: 955 | 27 随着a7iii的推出，溅射最需要的入门全幅选择也变容易了
以后推荐相机：
随便拍拍／旅游摄影: Sony A6X00 根据budget X=0/3/5，由于很多人不会／不愿调色
，也可入fuji机型
溅射入门／人像摄影：Sony a7iii
风光大师：Sony a7riii／rii也够用
运动机：炮厂1dxii 但根据索尼对自己机器革命的力度目测a9ii应该能达到1dxii水准了
请大师们补充 |
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a***r
发帖数: 1345 | 28 问题是等上半年，a7iii也该出来了。sony的刷机速度，基本上是一年一款。我现在等
不是因为价格，而是还想看看a9和5d4是啥样，毕竟要作为主力机用，买了至少2-3年不
折腾了。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.1 |
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h*****2
发帖数: 2070 | 29 大发目前4个系列：
1. APS-C:A5100/6000/6100...
2. 入门FF： A7, A7ii, A7iii...
3. 高像素FF: A7R, A7R2, A7R3
4. 暗光王: A7s, A7s2, ...
a7000这次不会有吧
加了五轴防抖，个头就小不了，还不如直接上A7ii呢 |
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 30 如果消息属实这也太疯狂了
我想怎么也要先A7III吧 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 31 (SR5) Bomb rumor! First A9 specs: Dual XQD card slot, unlimited RAW burst.
“The next generation flagship mirrorless camera from Sony will be a giant
leap. It will drop a huge bomb in the imaging industry. It will not be A7III
or A7RIII. It will be a new model above A7 series. I would say A9 (let’s
name it as the new model). So the new A9 will have dual XQD card slot, no
CFast version, only XQD. A9 can do UNLIMITED RAW burst, UNLIMITED. The
camera wont pause for buffering.” |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 32 "Sony launched a new teaser for their press conference at the NAB show on
April 17 at 2pm Las Vegas time.I have been told Sony will announce plenty of
new products. You can follow the video live stream here on SonyAlphaRumors!
Mark the event on your calendar!
What can we expect? New camcorder of course, maybe an FF E-mount camcorder
and also first 8K camcorder prototypes. A surprise could be the launch of a
new A7III but I that’s just a pure guess for now…"
http://blog.sony.com/nabshow/ |
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b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 33 机内4K肯定有吧，其他的照着A7II就行了，价格也得这样 |
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b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 35 据说photokina之后出，也该到时候了，发这消息的目的是告诉大家不要着急入A7II |
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b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 39 Sony rumors一般可信度不高，但是近期发布A7III和RX100V以及新版APSC机身基本是板
上钉钉的事情，尤其是要买A7II的同学能持币观望就观望一会吧
Source 1:
I don’t know what exactly will be announced but the following things are
currently in the pipeline:
RX100 V
Same thing as IV but now with phase detection autofocus
Sony A7 III:
24-28MP BSI Sensor with IBIS and 4K support.
Unnamed BSI Sensor
APS-C Camera
not sure if a5300 or a7000 no body size known…
Improved action cam
From the lens side in development
more high quality prime lenses most likely f 1.8 50... 阅读全帖 |
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 40 bigger body 还要再大啊？
Medium format camera 有点意思 |
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p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 42 Medium format camera oh yeah |
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b****r
发帖数: 17995 | 43 70M+像素。。。
还有，骚尼还能出A口半反机器？不可能把 |
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p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 44 Medium format camera is more attractive |
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p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 46 wow, A7III is coming, when is Photokina? |
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b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 47 入魔帖子链接sonyalpharumors
大意就是可靠消息源说索尼10月或者11月会发布一款E口新机，该消息源曾提供过18-
100mm E口镜头图片、α99 II发布消息以及α99 II规格。但人家没说发布的是啥机子
。同时另一个消息源说索尼有在开发替代7系列的高端E口相机，透露规格如下：
“The next generation flagship mirrorless camera from Sony will be a giant
leap. It will drop a huge bomb in the imaging industry. It will not be A7III
or A7RIII. It will be a new model above A7 series. I would say A9 (let’s
name it as the new model). So the new A9 will have dual XQD card slot, no
CFast version, only XQD. A9 can do UNLIMITED RAW burst... 阅读全帖 |
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 49 a7III a9 中画幅 差不多了.......... |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 50 "The following info comes via the one source who shared the full 100%
correct A99II specs back in August. So let’s hope he is right on that rumor
he shared today:
He just told me the next Sony A7 camera that will be announced is the new
Sony A7 mark III. He doesn’t know the exact announcement date but the
camera is expected to start shipping in Q2 2017 (March-June timeframe)."
zz from SAR |
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