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r*****e
发帖数: 7853
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来自主题: Stock版 - IB margin accrued interest
我的broker节假日都算
[在 Ektar (Ektar) 的大作中提到:]
:是按trading day算,还是周末节假日也charge利息?
E***r
发帖数: 1037
2
来自主题: Stock版 - IB margin accrued interest
借10万,每天利息100出头
E***r
发帖数: 1037
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来自主题: Stock版 - IB margin accrued interest
看来那还是周五去杠杆比较好
不然白交利息
r*****e
发帖数: 7853
4
来自主题: Stock版 - IB margin accrued interest
这么高?
[在 Ektar (Ektar) 的大作中提到:]
:借10万,每天利息100出头
:☆ 发自 iPhone 买买提 1.23.01
m********3
发帖数: 2125
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来自主题: Stock版 - 狗这次的财报missed了好多
sults with revenue and EPS beats. The big news from the quarter was the
accrued $2.7B EU antitrust fine, which shaved over $2.7B off operating
income, nearly halved net income to $3.5B, and reduced EPS from $8.90 to the
$5.01 that still beat consensus.

:估计不算欧盟罚款之前是$8以上的。
:但宣布罚款后他们已经跌过了。
:随便了,短期调整吧?
R*******g
发帖数: 194
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来自主题: Stock版 - 200 share NVDA or BABA?
Update:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trade-alibaba-group-holding-ltd-141321096.
html
Alibaba Group Holding Ltd (NYSE:BABA) stock is the opposite of a falling
knife. Call it a shooting star. It is having an incredible year — up 80% —
and shows no signs of slowing down. Sooner or later, markets will correct;
but in the absence of disaster headlines, the market and BABA stock has more
room to go up.
I am not to buy and hope this happens, however, especially going into
earnings. Instead, I want to... 阅读全帖

发帖数: 1
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Chanticleer Holdings (BURG +76.4%) announces plans to use blockchain-
architected platform MobivityMind from Mobivity (OTC:MFON) for a
cryptocurrency customer loyalty and rewards program.
The company says it will leverage the MobivityMind platform across its
brands.
Mobivity CEO Dennis Becker on the new crypto burger strategy: "Eating a
burger is now a way to mine for cryptocoins! Every meal enjoyed at any
Chanticleer Holdings brand will accrue currency for the consumer that can be
used for futu... 阅读全帖
s***o
发帖数: 2191
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来自主题: Stock版 - 这次下跌损失巨大
对了,protective puts还要注意tax的问题。stock hold已经超过1年成为long-term的
没问题,不到1年的,一旦买了put,accrued period完全归零。
T*******4
发帖数: 1406
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来自主题: Stock版 - 这次下跌损失巨大
给个参考文献?以前没有注意到put会影响股票的税收的问题。
[在 stdio (stdio) 的大作中提到:]
:对了,protective puts还要注意tax的问题。stock hold已经超过1年成为long-term
的没问题,不到1年的,一旦买了put,accrued period完全归零。
m******3
发帖数: 983
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Maybe it was the payment for your accrued vacation.
s******g
发帖数: 654
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来自主题: TAX版 - LLC 报税问题?
Bad news for you. As you are now a green card holder of USA, you have to
report all your income worldwide to the IRS. Also, you have to disclose your
foreign bank accounts to the IRS if your total foregin asset is more than $
10,000. Please consult with your CPA before it is too late for the 50%
penalty and up to 3 years prison.
=====================================================================
The minimum penalty for failing to submit the required disclosure is $10,000
, and it increases by ... 阅读全帖
J*****i
发帖数: 2622
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来自主题: TAX版 - fellowship (RA) 被audit了
You need to work = it was compensation = not fellowship.
Save the time arguing, pay the tax/penalty (penalties and interest are
accruing over the time), learn from it, and move on with your life.
s******g
发帖数: 654
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来自主题: TAX版 - 才发现这个TD F 90-22.1
Good boy.
Foreign accounts and assets. As if U.S. taxpayers with foreign accounts and
assets did not already have enough cause for confusion regarding the filing
requirements for Form TD F 90-22.1, Report of Foreign Bank and Financial
Accounts (FBAR), FATCA now imposes a second filing requirement on them.
Section 511 of FATCA creates new IRC § 6038D, which requires U.S. taxpayers
with foreign accounts and assets with an aggregate value exceeding $50,000
to report them on an informational return.... 阅读全帖
k****t
发帖数: 12697
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来自主题: TAX版 - DIVIDEND 的 FOREIGN TAX CREDIT
FILING 1040.
一般外国股票的DIVIDEND 要是外国扣了税可以用FORM 1116 拿回来(至少部分).
但1116 INSTRUCTIONS 里有这条:
Foreign Taxes Not Eligible for a Credit:
8. Taxes paid or accrued to a foreign country in connection with the
purchase or sale of oil or gas extracted in that country if you do not have
an economic interest in the oil or gas, and the purchase price or sales
price is different from the fair market value of the oil or gas at the time
of the purchase or sale.
偶有加拿大的PVX (Provident Energy Ltd. Ordinary),DIVIDEND 加拿大扣... 阅读全帖
l**********r
发帖数: 1745
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Ok, I made some research on the internet and find out that:
1. I should report the foreign income in line 7 on 1040, so line 7 would be
the total of (the summation of box 1 in W-2 for both of us + the foreign
income that converted to us dollars).
2. If the foreign income also was taxed in the foreign country my husband
worked for, I can file form 1116 to claim a foreign tax credit (or deduction
).
3. Use the exchange rate prevailing when you receive, pay, or accrue the
item. If there is more tha... 阅读全帖
b***G
发帖数: 542
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来自主题: TAX版 - ***关于FSA的疑问*****
这个问题在网上随便Google一下就可以找到答案,难怪没有人答应你。
我也不是什么内行,这里是我在网上搜到的信息,你可以参考一下
Tax time: Flexible spending plans versus the childcare credit
by Rachelle LaLiberte
Last updated: January 2012
Daycare and childcare payments can take a big bite out of your paycheck.
That's especially painful in a tough economy, when we're all looking for
ways to cut expenses. Fortunately, you can recoup some of the costs by
either enrolling in a flexible spending account (FSA) or taking the
childcare credit at tax time.
To qualif... 阅读全帖
i*****r
发帖数: 1812
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税也是cash basis.你accounting改成accrued basis,比如预收了3个月收入.Gaap收入
是0,有prepaid asset,但报税的时候,那3个月收入是taxable in current year.
M*******s
发帖数: 4074
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你读得很正确。
Foreign Earned Income Exclusion 你未必满足条件。
Foreign Tax Credit 你得交了中国税(paid)或是要交(accrued)。
如果满足条件这两个可以一起用,就是具体计算得花些功夫。

Foreign
D*****E
发帖数: 9352
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you are right. Under the MEMO issued on March 3, 2000 by Michael Pearson, if
an alien filed a timely application for EOS or COS, the alien will still be
considered to be in a period of stay until the date the Service issues a de
cision. If the decision is negative, unlawful presence would start accruing
from the date of the decision and not from the date of the expiration of the
prior nonimmigrant status.
P********n
发帖数: 18
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来自主题: Visa版 - 父母探亲延期
我找到了如下答案,有高人帮忙解读一下吗?
What if I file for an extension of stay on time but USCIS
doesn't make a decision before my I–94 expires?
Your lawful nonimmigrant status ends, and you are out of status,
when your Form I-94 expires, even if you have timely applied
to extend your nonimmigrant status. Generally, as a matter of
discretion, USCIS will defer any removal proceedings until after
the petition is adjudicated and USCIS decides your extension of
nonimmigrant status request. Nevertheless, DHS may bring... 阅读全帖
w******e
发帖数: 533
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lp最近fail了系里的一个考试,学位拿不到了,只好从F1转回F2,申请change of
status。
本来这个学期只注了论文课,如果在这周日2/2之前退掉可以少交点学费,但是退完后
F1身份就要terminate(IO说会在21天内中止),就会out of status。
IO的建议是不能退课,不但不能退,而且下个quarter也要注册,还要注9学分来保持
F1身份,直到转身份被批准,因为申请change of status需要的时间很长,可能要
2到4个月,说如果out of status了,申请转身份有可能被deny。
我的问题是从uscis网上查到, What if I file for change of status on
time but USCIS does not make a decision before my I-94 expires?
这个问题的回答是:
Your lawful nonimmigrant status ends and you are out of status
when your Form I-94 expires, even if yo... 阅读全帖
r****7
发帖数: 2282
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来自主题: Visa版 - B2 I-94延期的问题
以前听说延期申请pending期间在美国是合法停留,但是看移民局网站上写的I-94过期
就失去身份了
Your lawful nonimmigrant status ends, and you are out of status,
when your Form I-94 expires, even if you have timely applied
to extend your nonimmigrant status. Generally, as a matter of
discretion, USCIS will defer any removal proceedings until after
the petition is adjudicated and USCIS decides your request for
extension of nonimmigrant status. Nevertheless, DHS may bring a
removal proceeding against you, even if you have an application for
e... 阅读全帖
g****b
发帖数: 4
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简单的说,我opt过期之后,又在同一学校呆了160天左右(主要是寻找新的博后)。因
为进入美国是F1,所以那160天是 out of status。
现在回国重新申请J1,DS160表上有这个问题“Have you ever been unlawfully
present, overstayed the amount of time granted by an immigration official or
otherwise violated the terms of a U.S. visa?”
我究竟是应该回答No呢?
还是回答Yes,并解释“out-of-status for 160 days”?
==== 补充
楼下也出现了两种答案……
=======
在发帖之前,我已经做了不少功课,但还是不是很清楚。有的资料显示这样的
violation of status问题很小,有的地方又建议回答yes,因为violated the terms
of a US visa... 下面是一些找到的文字及链接:
1-这里是关于是否violation的讨论,但没看到结论:
http://www.... 阅读全帖
k******o
发帖数: 550
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you really should not leave US if you have accrued >180 days unlawful
presence otherwise you are subject to 3/10 years bar.
l*****l
发帖数: 63
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Thank you so much for all the information. I just figured out a way to keep
my legal status. I will resign tomorrow before they are able to fire me.
In this case, I don't give them two week notice, may I still have my
paycheck of last two weeks' work and my accrued PTO? I know it might be
written in the handbook, but I left it in my office, and they even took away
my badge, so I can't get access to the handbook.
Z*****l
发帖数: 14069
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来自主题: Working版 - 被裁了,请教一个问题,急!
bless. better check with a lawyer.
i think
1. yr opt is still effective for 120 days.
2. next company must be e-verify.
3. yes, you can use the opt for new job.
4. you are legal for 120 days.
reference
http://oisss.unc.edu/students/f1/MOUstem10-08.pdf
Periods of unemployment during post-completion OPT: I understand I may not
accrue more than an aggregate of
90 days of unemployment during the initial 12-month OPT period. If I am
approved for the 17-month STEM extension,
an additional 30 days of u... 阅读全帖
j******n
发帖数: 2206
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好像sick day都是固定的啊
比如我们公司
12 sick days, accrued at rate of one day per month
如果我没有病,但是想休息一下,可以用sick day么?
m*******n
发帖数: 631
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来自主题: Working版 - 公司这样做合法吗?
我们公司总部要关掉湾区的分部。所有人在二月底被lay off。
在和HR通话的时候,我告诉她一月份用了四天的sick day leave。
我们一年才有四天。所以她立刻就告诉我“ I owe company money, i need to pay
back the sick days."
the reason is I have not accrued yet.
请问这种说法对吗?我们的sick day是use it or lose it at the end of the year.
所以为什么我还要给公司钱呢?合法合理吗?
谢谢!!!!!
f*****t
发帖数: 106
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未上市的公司,OFFER LETTER上这么写的,可是很不明白。
没上市,是不是股票就是废纸? 可是不明白为什么还提到VESTING的问题,假如
跳槽的话,是不是可以卖给别人,就叫VEST? 卖的时候怎么算价格呢? 假如公司
上市了,假如每股是10块钱,而这4万股,就是40万,请问我的理解对么。多谢!
===
Stock Option Grant. In connection with the commencement of your employment,
the Company will recommend at the first meeting of the Company’s Board of D
irectors following your start date that the Company grant you an option to
purchase 40,000 shares of the Company’s Common Stock (“Option Shares”)
with an exercise price per share equal to the ... 阅读全帖
s*****r
发帖数: 379
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来自主题: Working版 - offer上的一句话
菜鸟请教大家,offer上有段话:
To provide both you and XX(公司名),your employment with XX is for no
specified time and may be ended by you or by XX at any time for any reason.
However, if you resign your employment without proving the required notice
of resignation of at least one month for exempt positions, you forfeit all
entitlement to compensation for accrued vacation time.
......
下面是关于搬家费的:
By your signature on this employment agreement, you authorize the company to
withhold this amount of $XX from any sev... 阅读全帖
e***i
发帖数: 14
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下面是I-131的填表说明,似乎是说即使你能AP回来,因为逾期居留了整个485有可能得
重新办理。。。
3. Advance Parole Document
A. Travel Warning Regarding Unlawful Presence
Before you apply for an Advance Parole Document,
read the following travel warning carefully:
1. If you have been unlawfully present in the United
States for more than 180 days but less than 1 year,
and you leave before removal proceedings are
started against you, you may be inadmissible for 3
years from the date of departure.
2. If you have been unlawfully present in the ... 阅读全帖
e****a
发帖数: 4783
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 研究了一下AC21和140的关系
在maninus的提示下,研究了一下关于485 pending > 180 天,AC21和140的关系。找到
了这个:
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDportme.html
2003年8月11号有一个memo:

Revocation or Withdrawal of the I-140 Petition
The Memo provides that the approved I-140 petition remains valid even if the
original sponsoring employer requests its revocation, as long as the I-485
application has been pending at least 180 days at the time of the revocation
or withdrawal. Those who chose concurrent filing enjoy an advantage, as
they are accruing time toward
A*********r
发帖数: 8271
33
你说的immigration信是啥?
第一,先不慌,心情先稳住,兵来将挡,水来土淹。我先给讲个worst case。2010年4月30的移民局decision。某秘鲁人,96年11月12入境,身份96年12月3日过期。一直非法居留,有非法打工。140 with PD 4-30-01 批准。07年7月16日,移民局发出递解通知。07年10月,他递交了485。移民局的最后决定,他之前非法打工不影响他现在转换身份。这个case应该算worst scenario了吧,还是一样皆大欢喜的结局。所以别担心。
第二,H1的过期时间是你的i94上的时间,也就是你的797收据过期的时间。你跟单位合同满或者辞职或者lay off,你算out of status,但是不算unlawful presence. 原则上H1是没有任何grace period的。但是,以你的收据上的时间为准。H1上应该有i94的,以i94的时间为准。你先查一下那个。
建议,赶紧找工作。我个人认为如果你能很快找到工作,就不用转其他身份。
1,我是不是跟公司说把上报CIS时间押后,遣散费的支票晚点发?---这个没关系。见前述H1的时间... 阅读全帖
H**********y
发帖数: 7928
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☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
swinxw (The Eagle) 于 (Mon Dec 6 14:52:31 2010, 美东) 提到:
由于公司重组,部分绝大部分人都被lay off,上周5公司大老板写封信说要裁员,今天
早上就lay off一大批。
我现在完全没有准备,好像这是worst case了吧?我目前是H1b身份,版上做了很长时
间考古,请问能有人帮我回答一下我的问题么?不胜感谢。
1,我是不是跟公司说把上报CIS时间押后,遣散费的支票晚点发?
2,我现在马上开始找新工作,可是根本不知道要多久才能找的到,看到附近有一些公
司招相关行业的,但是没有投过不知道形势。是不是如果可以找到新工作的话,应该先
不转成其他身份而是直接让新公司转H1b最好?
3,是不是应该马上找个律师,申请转F1或者B1/B2?我看有人说应该在H1b结束,也就
是今天,就申请转其他身份,以免出现非法身份问题而影响将来比如绿卡申请。
不好意思问题很多,如果有经验的人能给点建议将非常感谢!
☆───────────────────────────... 阅读全帖
I**1
发帖数: 2473
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来自主题: Immigration版 - Eb1b必须由学校给申请吗?
我的offer letter里写了这个offer到明年5月中旬。title 改成assistant research
scientist. The position is full time,categorized as academic professional,
benefits eligible and a year-to-year appointment.
就是offer letter里的这句话不知道对eb1b是否有负面影响:
This position is not funded from state appropriations and may terminate when
funding is no longer available. Fixed-term and temperary appointment have
no continuing appointment implications and do no accrue time towards
sabbatical leaves.
不知道这个offer letter 能不能用作eb1b?
I**1
发帖数: 2473
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offer letter里写了这个offer到明年5月中旬。但是写了The position is full time,
categorized as academic professional, benefits eligible and a year-to-year
appointment.
还有就是offer letter里的这句话不知道对eb1b是否有负面影响:
This position is not funded from state appropriations and may terminate when
funding is no longer available. Fixed-term and temperary appointment have
no continuing appointment implications and do no accrue time towards
sabbatical leaves.
f*****t
发帖数: 28
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我和你情况差不多, EB1B 是可以办的。
有几点要清楚,
1. EB1B的律师如果是学校的, 他们同意办才能做下一步。
2. 系里出Letter, 如果内容里一定要有timeline.最好的办法是 只把 timeline 写进
Financial letter。
3. 准备材料,如果employment letter 仍然有问题, Talk to the Chairman in your
department. Let him write a letter to confirm that you are currently
employed...bla bla bla....
我当时是拿了一份 学校律师的employment letter 模板, 告诉系主任 说 这个才是 正
规格式。一般情况是没问题的。 千万记得不要出现Ending Date. 最后要用这封信
从学校的Dean 的到Signiture, 才能递交140.
这是我的模板:
Your name
Your Address
Dear Dr. your name,
It is with great pleasure th... 阅读全帖
T*******y
发帖数: 6523
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 皮匠和8老师打起来了。长见识。
also I think that Pjiang is correct.
not accruing unlawful presence does not equal lawful presence.
s*******w
发帖数: 1879
39
你的问题就是没有交i20。
就是这样,赶紧复印了交吧。
这说的已经很清楚了,你没有提供Proof that you did not accrue unlawful
presence
你要把你所有的visa都交一遍,从你第一次来美国时候的visa到你最近一次。
同时你要把你所有的i20和opt和h1b的各种批准approval交一次。
visa和i20这些是两个系统在管。你要证明你两边都是legal的才可以。
c**2
发帖数: 8496
40
来自主题: Immigration版 - 请教一个身份转换时保险问题
then stay on the job and accrue a few weeks of unauthorized work days (
protected by 245k) The continue coverage is more important for your wife
during her pregnancy.
c**2
发帖数: 8496
41
not likely. although unemployment days will accrue if not working which may
or may not be important to your future applications (really depending on
whether the next USCIS officer is strict or not)
a******e
发帖数: 138
42
TSC RD 8/17/2015 FP 9/11/2015(scheduled) 主副 EAD/AP on 11/12/2015.
主卡485 1/5/2016 批了,1/8 收到邮件说副卡REF 要求提供过去某段时间合法呆在美
国的证明。原文是"Submit evidence to establish that you did not accrue
unlawful presence beginning on mm/dd/yy and ending mm/dd/yy."副卡申请人是F1
读书,递交485的时候所有的visa stamp, i-94 还有I-20 都交了,应该可以证明合法
性,不知道他们到底还想要什么。难道再把这些材料交一遍?请大家出出主意。同时祝
福正在等待的XDJM。
m******p
发帖数: 5393
43
请问是accrued paid leave么?但是名字还在payroll上有问题么。
就是不用再走terminate再re-hire的复杂程序了?
我打了律师电话,律师说完全不知情,刚让律师通知老板了,我下周不回来上班了,在
家等O1通知
l*a
发帖数: 42
44
来自主题: Immigration版 - tsc 485 rfe
6月的RD,最近收到rfe需要提供证据did not accrue unlawful presence during XXX
,而这个期间我是学生。是不是只要再提供一次I20就可以了?我交的485 package里肯
定都有I20的,不知道是不是他们没看到,还是说I20不够作为证据,需要别的证据?
多谢!
l*a
发帖数: 42
45
来自主题: Immigration版 - 485rfe有必要找律师吗
学校国际学生办公室的人强烈建议我找律师,并且说的很严重。自己写的response
letter可能是不如律师规范和引经据典,但我感觉这是个比较简单的rfe,重新提交I20
应该就可以,有必要找律师处理吗,有人自己回复485rfe过了的的吗
我之前485rfe的帖子:
6月的RD,最近收到rfe需要提供证据did not accrue unlawful presence during XXX
,而这个期间我是学生。是不是只要再提供一次I20就可以了?我交的485 package里肯
定都有I20的,不知道是不是他们没看到,还是说I20不够作为证据,需要别的证据?
多谢!
k*****y
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这里很多人都一知半解,你自己看看吧,简单来说你可以赶紧提交,然后在180天内拿
到AP/EAD。
Unauthorized Employment: Counted Before and After I-485 Filing
The filing of an adjustment-of-status application does not, in and of itself
, authorize employment. Thus, if a foreign national continues unauthorized
employment, even after filing an application for AOS, s/he continues to
accrue days of unauthorized employment. These days will be counted against
the period of “forgiveness” granted by 245(k). For example, one has worked
without author... 阅读全帖
f*******n
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 问一下AOS这个状态
除了要离境,不知道你说的“后果”是什么。如果你是说9B ban,没有这样的后果。
USCIS和DOS的政策都很明确地说AOS pending期间不积累unlawful presence,无论AOS
最终被批或被拒。
https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-17138/0-0-0-
18383.html#0-0-0-1885
AFM chapter 40.9.2(b)(3)(A) (Aliens with Properly Filed Pending
Applications for Adjustment of Status or Registry...)
Accrual of unlawful presence stops on the date the application is properly
filed pursuant to 8 CFR 103 and the regulatory filing requirements governing
the particular type of b... 阅读全帖
t*****t
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不对。485大于180天是特殊情况。见link
[url]http://www.murthy.com/news/UDportme.html[/url]
New Job Must Be "Same or Similar"
The Memo states that if the I-140 petition has been approved and the I-485
applicant takes a new job in a "same or similar" position after the I-485
application has been pending 180 days or longer, then the underlying I-140
petition remains valid under AC21. In a footnote, BCIS mentions that the
underlying Labor Certification also remains valid if the same conditions are
satisfied.
If th... 阅读全帖
J********n
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来自主题: EB23版 - EAD AP H1B AOS FAQ 【5/15更新】
关于H1B持有人是否使用AP、EAD的问题已经被问了无数次, 版主可不可以置顶一段时间。现在很多人都有EAD、AP但485还要1-2年才批,一个清晰的FAQ相信对大家都有益。
以下是我目前所了解的情况,有些地方我还有疑问,请大家补充,更正,我会及时更新:
以下先集中几个关键问题,一些常识以后补充:
(1)用了EAD,就是AOS,就不是H1B,不是non-immigrant了,这个大家都知道。
万一485出问题,你必须马上离开美国,这个虽然很麻烦但不可怕。
关键是Out of Status 的开始计算时间,因为这关系到3年/10年不得入境的条例。根据下面皮匠的blog以及他引用的USCIS的说明,OOS的开始时间是485被据那一天,而不是EAD使用的那一天。这样使用EAD就不用担心这个问题了。
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/myblog/14332/200806/6037.html
(2)H1B的I-797还有效,但没有H1B visa stamp,使用AP入境,能不能保持H1B,如何做?
这个问题我不是十分清楚,但知道以下的情况:
(a)你的I-94写的是AOS... 阅读全帖
p*******u
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来自主题: EB23版 - EAD AP H1B AOS FAQ 【5/15更新】
JustMoveIn,想问你一个问题。 你提到:“(d)如果没有EAD或者不想用EAD,也不打
算extend H1B,或者入境前已经extend过H1B,AP入境后可以马上用H1B为原雇主工作吗。
根据学校的International Office说法,USCIS在这方面一直没讲清楚,但有2点是已知
的。
1. 如果用AP入境后还是给H1B的雇主工作,USCIS不认为这是非法工作。
1. If a person enters in Advance Parole status but has an underlying
valid H-1B, then they are not engaging in unauthorized employment if he or
she works pursuant to the H-1B petition.
2. 如果用AP入境以后,即使停留超过I-94的过期日期,也不认为是非法停留。
2. If the I-94 date from the entry using Advance Parole expires, then the
person... 阅读全帖
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