f*********8
发帖数: 583 | 1 We play men double. One of the guy is fast to save net hairpin, net drop and
net push, block. His backhand is usualy bouncing to the back tram line
defensive clear. He can save smash with net drop or drive crosscourt. His
only weakness is backhand defense against smash as a lefthander.
What kind of strategy to play this guy, when he partner with a defensive guy
who will return any shot in the net high, four corners. |
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f*********8
发帖数: 583 | 2 We play men double. One of the guy is fast to save net hairpin, net drop and
net push, block. His backhand is usualy bouncing to the back tram line
defensive clear. He can save smash with net drop or drive crosscourt. His
only weakness is backhand defense against smash as a lefthander.
What kind of strategy to play this guy, when he partner with a defensive guy
who will return any shot in the net high, four corners. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 3 she just 捣板s after she serves, since she always serves with smooth side,
her backhand side. i think she beat Boros due to her forehand smashing/
pushes,
beat Jiang since she could handle Jiang's lethal weapon backhand punches
very
well.
Amy and myself 捣板 a lot more often, as quickly as Jiaqi. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 4 i never have had coaches before either.
when someone reaches certain level, improving his fitness level
would help, not just run fast, it is about core strength, the
power..
climbing mountain is one of the good ways to improve, i consider
someone who can climb to mission peak within 75 min.s about 1800
level, 60 min.s about 2000, 90 min. is about 1500, within 50 min.s
would make it 2200+.
just tell the fact in bay area:
#1 way is hardest to achieve, hardest to maintain.
between #2 and #3, it see... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 5
actually WMTT's forehand is a lot better than his backhand, there are 2
fields he could improve to break 2000:
1. backhand defense/offense skills or variations.
2. looping power, which maybe can by improved by either racket or
core strength, i don't mention technical skills due to the fact he
has had got enough from coaches. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 6
his forehand is stronger than your backhand for sure, but that
comparison is nothing, u need to compare guys in your level, like
NY, Wilson etc.
ur backhand is more consistent than theirs. See my grace Lin's thread. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 7 then i won the next point he served and won 2 more for my serves,
i led 7:5, his friends called timeout for him.
when i went to my water bottle, i thought about he must change, i
had to cope well with his change.
when we started again, he surprised me, even i expected his change,
by first time to stand in the middle of the table and served with
his backhand.
you know i like to serve not only on my backhand side, i would try
to serve standing on my forehand side too, which he had more
problems to... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 8 right after the timeout, i had a thought if i concentrated 100% to win
the next point, it not only made me lead 8:5, it also destroyed his
comeback confidence.
i immediately twiddled my racket to return to his forehand, he was
even more surprised to see my return than i saw his serves
you know: guys like him with a huge powerful forehand would have less
advantage to serve backhand, actually that was his first backhand serve,
let alone standing in the middle of the table.
He was trying his weakne... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******a
发帖数: 1753 | 9 If Wang Tao had defeated Liu Guoliang at the Atlanta Olympics, the raw spin
backhand style would have been more popular.
Jiang Huajun, too.
福原愛, Fukuhara Ai, also played raw spin backhand for a period of time. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 10 as amateurs, who will win a match depends on the whole package of skills we
have,
and depends on how 2 opponents can control each other.
as you play more, you will add more skills to your package, normally when we
get
older, it is more difficult to improve our attacking skills, but it is
relatively
easier to get more defense skills.
Since you are still young, i would suggest you improve your RPB(reverse
penholder
backhand), move a little bit back, and loop from 2 sides, if your backhand
is
close... 阅读全帖 |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 11 Tenergy 05 has a good 弹性. But it is too fast for backhand of Penholder.
T05-FX is better.
But I guess that they are both too hard. A soft rubber may be better if you
want to be more consistent for backhand, but like forehand to be powerful (
Penholder) |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 12 First, you need to know the serve: long vs short, forehand vs. backhand,
spin. Then, you need to handle each differently. You cannot 侧身抢拉
before knowing the serve well. Only you know that it is a long ball to your
backhand, you then can 侧身抢拉.
Beside 侧身抢拉, if you are sure that it is strong side-under spin, a
strong chop is another choice to control as defense. However if it is not
under spin, the ball will be returned high. If under spin is less, you can
just push the ball with some angle.
Even y... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 13 there is a 1800 player in FC club plays like your style, backhand oriented,
he has serious tennis elbow too.
He told after he switched his backhand to butterfly Relop, he feels a lot
better. |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 14 I guess that it depends on timing of hitting the ball
If you hit/loop the ball on the highest point, you are right,
If you loop the ball when the ball goes down, 低 is reasonable.
If backhand and forehand are the same level, this assumes that you hit/loop
forehand and backhand at the same timing.
For example, if you hit/loop earlier timing, you hand must be lower when you
finish hit/loop than that when you hit/loop later timing |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 15 我打直板还是快攻为主，还是以高点为主，其实我看大木梯近台的时候，
起板也不低；只是他反手退台之后，起手低。但是即使有这个区别，近
台时候或者远台的时候，正反手起板高度还是一致的。
I guess that it depends on timing of hitting the ball
If you hit/loop the ball on the highest point, you are right,
If you loop the ball when the ball goes down, 低 is reasonable.
If backhand and forehand are the same level, this assumes that you hit/loop
forehand and backhand at the same timing.
For example, if you hit/loop earlier timing, you hand must be lower when you
finish hit/loop than that when you ... 阅读全帖 |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 16 I guess that WWTT use this way for both forehand and backhand (RPB)
consistently without changing the way of holding the paddle when changing
forehand to/backto backhand.
I think that it is OK for RPB.
RPB is in Evolution. When you was young, RPB was still not mature yet, |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 17 One time, at a club at San Diego, I played one guy of 1700, his first serve
to my backhand (long, side spin), my RPB smashed it very powerfully. Then
during the rest of the whole game, he never served to my backhand long top/
no-spin, instead, he changed to serve to middle or forehand more, which I
liked more. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 18 the russian guy has very good backhand, it is not easy to play
against shakehands with strong backhand when you are a tricky
penholder player... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 19 his backhand from middle distance counter attack has improved a lot,
which surprised me when i smashed to his backhand...
now, he plays more like a mid distance 2 wing looper...
not that common as a penhold. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 20 i don't think he will use it as his main side, at least i used to
be afraid of returning opponent's backhand top side spin serve to my
backhand, right now: i can easily return it back using my LP side,
my return usually would give my opponent a surprise!
If you are not fit enough to consistently loop, using one side pip
would help your stamina! |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 21 his backhand count loop has a lot of spin, at least against my penholder
backhand, watch out.. that is his new weapon which he didn't have 2
years back. |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 22 A shakehand with good backhand looper can do 直板横打 easily. On the other
hand, since I learned 直板横打, I can do pretty good backhand loop using
shakehand Without any learning too, |
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j*g
发帖数: 820 | 23 朱原来用了神秘的“new backhand rubber"呀。
中国队原来打他都是先拉加转到他的反手，拉球弧度高，速度慢，稳定。等他回球偏高
偏短时，再暴打一拍大角度。
匈牙利时，对他的反手削球，却不约而同的拉速度快弧线低的球，类似小爆冲。这种球
朱回的很好，回球快，弧度低。弄的攻方很别扭。不知道他的反手回球到底时什么旋转
性质。估计是因为新胶皮，和以前的回球的旋转很不一样。
? )
Curl P1-R, 1.5，到正手换成T64,1.9,到
backhand rubber", 应该不久就会弄清他的 |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 24 "The ITTF commentator for the Joo Se Hyuk vs Adrian Crisan match said Joo
had changed his backhand rubber."
As you can see, the above sentence always had a "quote" sign whether I wrote
it here at mitbbs or earlier at Jiayuan. That's because it is a quote from
other people instead of my own claim. So writing it here or at jiayuan does
not reflect my own conviction that it's definitely true, as shown by my
careful wording through out this thread. Although I tend to believe that Joo
's changing hi... 阅读全帖 |
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j*g
发帖数: 820 | 25 朱原来用了神秘的“new backhand rubber"呀。
中国队原来打他都是先拉加转到他的反手，拉球弧度高，速度慢，稳定。等他回球偏高
偏短时，再暴打一拍大角度。
匈牙利时，对他的反手削球，却不约而同的拉速度快弧线低的球，类似小爆冲。这种球
朱回的很好，回球快，弧度低。弄的攻方很别扭。不知道他的反手回球到底时什么旋转
性质。估计是因为新胶皮，和以前的回球的旋转很不一样。
? )
Curl P1-R, 1.5，到正手换成T64,1.9,到
backhand rubber", 应该不久就会弄清他的 |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 26 "The ITTF commentator for the Joo Se Hyuk vs Adrian Crisan match said Joo
had changed his backhand rubber."
As you can see, the above sentence always had a "quote" sign whether I wrote
it here at mitbbs or earlier at Jiayuan. That's because it is a quote from
other people instead of my own claim. So writing it here or at jiayuan does
not reflect my own conviction that it's definitely true, as shown by my
careful wording through out this thread. Although I tend to believe that Joo
's changing hi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 36508 | 27 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
SmartFarter (想放就放我最响亮) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:13:37 2010, 美东) 提到:
事先声明，实在是惨不忍睹，打算骂人的就免进了。纯娱乐。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKGhVN5flw
版主，快给包子。
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usatt (usatt) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:31:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
8错8错...可惜我没包子
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junkywind (飘扬的垃圾) 于 (Tue Jul 27 01:41:10 2010, 美东) 提到:
google?
这桌，这地，也忒寒碜了吧。。。。。。比人marvell差多了。
你们得好好跟board反应反应。
这俩都在club没见过
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 28 exactly, he even didn't admit that he got to that level due to his
backhand balance style. In that level, his forehand is about top
70%, backhand top 30% |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 29 the 巴巴多斯 girl had a great backhand down to the line, i normally
have more trouble with strong backhand players. But she lost to both
A and B, B was USA cadet girl team member in 1900+, A was almost
2100 player from IL. |
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q*****n
发帖数: 698 | 30 I should have done more hitting with the long pips. It's much riskier, but
it's quick, and most people will block into the net..
It's funny that I only learned to use long pips on backhand during the
thanksgiving break... A few months back, I couldn't figure out how to use
long pips on backhand, and was using it on forehand..
your |
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q*****n
发帖数: 698 | 31 Title: A Tale of Two Qiqis
Author: mukund
Qiqi recently won the highly-competitive singles ping-pong ladder. Most
people expected him to make the quarter finals. But he won it all! And how!
His modus operandi involved theoretical research, data-driven research, game
-theory, and execution (despite failing systems). An act worthy of
publication. (Qiqi's cover is already blown, so this article does not
divulge anything that the ping-pong mafia already does not know)
Qiqi joined Google a about four... 阅读全帖 |
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h******r
发帖数: 1578 | 32 http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/plano/headlines/2
By MATTHEW WATKINS
MATTHEW WATKINS The Dallas Morning News Staff Writer
m******[email protected]
Published: 31 December 2012 11:19 PM
On the night after Christmas, dozens of kids gathered to play pingpong in
dimly lit gyms behind two separate Plano strip centers.
Most of them were smiling and laughing as they sweated and swung their
paddles, sending little orange balls all over the hardwood floors. But these
weren’t basement warriors... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******a
发帖数: 1753 | 34 http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/product_info.p
The two sides are not too different in speed, definitely not as much as one
would wish.
"TIBHAR co-operated with Samsonov to develop the idea of forehand and
backhand with distinct speed feels. The specific plywood layer combinations
produce a blade with more speed on the forehand and more control on the
backhand – a real favour to the typical forehand attacker. This is used
with the special new Tibhar CONTACT SYSTEM which produces... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n
发帖数: 35 | 35 Hi all:
There is a new table tennis place called 123PingPong and the coaches are:
1) Zhang, WeiJian (2582) lefty shakehand, with pips-out on the
backhand side
2) Zhang, Jinge (2321) righty penhold, specailize on reversed
penhold backhand
3) Zheng, Hao(Sylvia) (2070) lefty shakehand, 2-wing looping style
They are hosting summer camp:
http://www.123pingpong.com/main/Training.aspx
•$340 weekly rate for whole day session
•$180 weekly rate for hlaf day session
And there... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 36
exactly, such a lazy boy, switched from penhold to lazy shakehand...
i do feel ur backhand is weaker than an average 1800 penhold's backhand.. |
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x****s
发帖数: 356 | 37 我看了大部分过程，觉得最有趣的是反手。骨骼（Guga)的反手可能
是单反中最具杀伤力的了，
因为他居然能有如此多的变化和如此强劲的力量。克雷特加的反手虽
然速度慢一点，但是稳定和有一板可怕的变线，特别是斜线对拉的时
候突然变直线，真的很让人羡慕。
骨骼的浪漫主义色彩反映在比赛时就是高潮迭起，经常让人在替他担
心的时候又突然打出一个高潮；在羡慕和替他喝彩的同时，会突然吓
一跳：不会这么臭吧？
骨骼居然还有若干ACE,张德培要有这两下子，就不会现在这种状况了
。
恭喜骨骼上升到ATP第一位。
寄件者：Donal Fagan (Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com)
主旨：backhands in Men's final
新闻群组：rec.sport.tennis
日期：2001-06-08 18:23:39 PST
Interesting to see two single-handed backhands
in the final of the world's premier clay court
event.
寄件者：Scall5 (r*******[email protected])
主旨 |
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p******f
发帖数: 341 | 38 Pete is the best server, boz his second serve. He is all time my favor.
but I have to say his ready pose is a little bit different. no need to learn
like that.
Klajicek's serve is much more smooth and he is damn tall!
Corrretija has a great text book backhand too I think.
Rafter's volley is one the best, he doesn't have a powerful serve like
Pete but serves to manage his game very well.
Andre's two backhand was the best and invent hitting ball
early to cut the time and add power.
The best footwo |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 39
Agree with Mike on most of what he said, especially on Andre's backhand and
Hewitt's foot work. A few more:
I like Hass's one-handed backhand a lot, it is silky smooth. Guga's is good,
but very few people can play like his extreme wesstern grip.
Forehand is the most difficult one, there are so many big forehand hitters,
but I have to give my vote to Pete. His running-forehand is still the best
forever.
I want to vote Ferderer for the best overall player. His everthing can be
easily put in top 1 |
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s***m
发帖数: 28 | 40 Chip all returns deep to the backhand. Keep the ball AWAY from the middle of
the court. Avoid allowing him to hit his favorite shot, the inside-out
forehand. Slice your BH to either the crosscourt service box which forces him
to hit a BH (and thus avoiding his inside-out forehand, or down the line...his
forehand is less lethal from this court position than inside out. This also
opens up the court so you can force him to hit his weaker backhand ON THE RUN.
Attack the net on his BH using slice app |
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r*****i
发帖数: 70 | 41 On the two-handed backhand, the procedure is the same, with the same ending.
An open stance (facing the target) two-hander is preferable, as it is with
the forehand. This is the most modern way to hit. Although revolutionary, mo
re and more pros are adopting this two-hander open stance, less stressful, a
nd far more efficient.
The one-handed backhand is different. In this case it is better to turn side
ways, and point to the mirror or reflecting surface with the butt of the rac
quet, as if you w |
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p******f
发帖数: 341 | 42 hehe. Roger using his short offensive slice caused a lot trouble
to his opponents.
I tried myself too since i was one hand backhand player for so many
years. Love to use slice, especially for those fast ofensive slice.
When I got a mid high ball on backhand, I will from up down slice
it inside the service line to opponent forehand.
Here, most percentage shot would be, your opponent mostly will
hit a cross forehand to you. So, get ready hit a down the line forehand
passing shot!
Very effective to |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 43 try some tennis backhand lesson dvd, it may be very helpful.
I would recommend the "tennis consistent win - backhand " by Tom A Very .
some tips you got to remember.
1. Turn the shoulder as well as the racket as a unit.
2. Close your racket face. (your left land should help this)
3. Lower your racket at least 1 feet below the ball!! (very important)
4. Naturally release your swing and hit the ball.
5. Make sure you hit the ball from 7pm o'clock to 1 pm. (for more top spin)
6. Follow through ... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 45 I am not only talking about backhand topspin. Henin's backhand
slice is much better than Serena's, because of which her volley
touch is also better.
Serena's topspin is flawless, including at the net (overhead or
swing volley). |
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 46 Really nice stuff. I like Tomy Hass's play: the way he plays both forehand
and backhand is very consistent and easy for us amateurs to follow.
Gasquet's backhand is great but hard to follow. Meanwhile I find it difficult to extract the pattern from Roger's
play -- maybe he is standing too high and he doesn't have any pattern. |
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 47 It is a warm up against wall, not against any real player on the court. When I rallying on the court, you will see a wild goose chase on the other side. |
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 49 I can not see it myself.... |
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b*******1
发帖数: 747 | 50 很好很稳定。 那个墙也不错，好像一般网球场都没有。 |
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