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m****s
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Last Updated: April 1, 2013 04:42pm ET
Electronics Chain Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy
By John Jordan | New Jersey
WAYNE, NJ - Once considered one of the fastest growing electronics retailers
in the region, Electronics Expo filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
last night.
Electronics Expo currently operates two stores, in Wayne and Union, and a
clearance center housed at the company's headquarters in Wayne, according to
The Record. At its peak, Electronics Expo had eight stores, but clos... 阅读全帖
b*********n
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ft, so fast

Last Updated: April 1, 2013 04:42pm ET
Electronics Chain Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy
By John Jordan | New Jersey
WAYNE, NJ - Once considered one of the fastest growing electronics retailers
in the region, Electronics Expo filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
last night.
Electronics Expo currently operates two stores, in Wayne and Union, and a
clearance center housed at the company's headquarters in Wayne, according to
The Record. At its peak, Electronics Expo had eight sto... 阅读全帖
d*********2
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这才是真正的美国精神, "not a penny to scumbags"
Goetz subsequently filed for bankruptcy, saying that legal expenses had left
him almost penniless. A judge of the United States Bankruptcy Court ruled
that the $43 million jury award could not be dismissed by the bankruptcy.[66
] Asked in 2004 whether he was making payments on the judgment, Goetz
responded "I don't think I've paid a penny on that", and referred any
questions on the subject to his attorney.
b****i
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 【JOBS】04.01 -- 04.30
Bi-Lingual Paralegal/Legal Assistant (Santa Clara)
A small law firm in Santa Clara is looking for a Paralegal/Legal Assistant.
The firm’s practice is focused on real estate and bankruptcy.
Job responsibilities include, but are not limited to: prepare bankruptcy
petitions, schedules and statements; draft pleadings and correspondence;
fill out Judicial Council Forms; prepare responses to discovery requests;
file documents with courts (mail, fax & e-filing); communicate with clients,
opposing couns... 阅读全帖
j***h
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - Solyndra: Largest VC loss ever? (转载)
Taxpayers Rank Behind Solyndra Investors
By William McQuillen - Sep 3, 2011 7:00 AM PT
The Obama administration let $385 million in taxpayer support for Solyndra
Inc. take a back seat to funds from new investors in an unsuccessful effort
to keep the solar-panel manufacturer operating.
The Energy Department decided the January refinancing represented the “
highest probable net benefit” for the government, according to a government
document obtained by Bloomberg News. Investors provided the compan... 阅读全帖
d**n
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 碰到极品恶劣租客求支招
根据你说的,更象专业诈骗犯了。
你律师对,查了一下,加州因为community law state,一方提破产,另外一方的债务
也暂时消失,叫 phantom discharge。到离婚,或者破产方死亡后,才能追讨另一方债
务。你现在赶紧把自己加到破产法庭的债主list上,虽然可能分不到什么,但有多少算
多少。如果他们给你的资料是假的,法官应该会LIFT AUTO STAY,让EVICTION继续。重
点在bankruptcy后的损失,如果能拿到一定数额的judgement,可以申请扣他们的工资
(希望他们有稳定工作这事是真的)。这种骗子只能和他们死磕了。
如果你的律师厉害,而且他们有漏洞,(不知道这个假材料算不算),可以challenge
他们整个bankruptcy case,如果他们被认定是bankruptcy fraud,你以前的钱也可能
回来。律师费我就不知道了。
d**n
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 碰到极品恶劣租客求支招
根据你说的,更象专业诈骗犯了。
你律师对,查了一下,加州因为community law state,一方提破产,另外一方的债务
也暂时消失,叫 phantom discharge。到离婚,或者破产方死亡后,才能追讨另一方债
务。你现在赶紧把自己加到破产法庭的债主list上,虽然可能分不到什么,但有多少算
多少。如果他们给你的资料是假的,法官应该会LIFT AUTO STAY,让EVICTION继续。重
点在bankruptcy后的损失,如果能拿到一定数额的judgement,可以申请扣他们的工资
(希望他们有稳定工作这事是真的)。这种骗子只能和他们死磕了。
如果你的律师厉害,而且他们有漏洞,(不知道这个假材料算不算),可以challenge
他们整个bankruptcy case,如果他们被认定是bankruptcy fraud,你以前的钱也可能
回来。律师费我就不知道了。
B******1
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来自主题: WashingtonDC版 - 印地安娜那个煤气爆炸案
Two innocent and unlucky neighbors dies: the victims, John Dion Longworth, a
34-year-old electronics expert, and his 36-year-old wife, second-grade
teacher Jennifer Longworth, were "in the prime of their lives."
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Three people charged in a gas explosion that devastated
an Indianapolis neighborhood deliberately set up the deadly blast to
collect a big insurance payout, authorities said Friday.
The home's owner, Monserrate Shirley; her boyfriend, Mark Leonard; and his
brother, Bo... 阅读全帖
r*******u
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来自主题: Vancouver版 - Nortel close at 12 cents on the TSX
Telecom giant Nortel granted bankruptcy protection
Updated Wed. Jan. 14 2009 4:59 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Nortel Networks Corp. has been granted protection by an Ontario Superior
Court judge from its creditors under the Companies' Creditors Arrangement
Act.
A lawyer for Nortel said in court that the bankruptcy protection was
necessary because the company was quickly burning through its cash reserves.
Nortel has also filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the United
States, the company ann
s******g
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Kodak宣布破产
chapter 11 under Bankruptcy Code permits reorganization under the bankruptcy
laws
Chapter 7 governs the process of a liquidation bankruptcy
一个是破产保护,一个是破产清算,统称为破产,是不同的破产形式,所以说file
chapter 11 是破产是没有错误的,而且通常意义上所说的破产,无论是企业还是个人
,很多指的就是chapter 11
s*****m
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来自主题: Hardware版 - ZALMAN倒闭
Popular PC cooling products maker Zalman filed for bankruptcy, in midst of a
huge controversy by its parent company Moneual. Executives of Moneual
cooked-up sales and export figures from Zalman to markets like the United
States, in a bid to pick up large fraudulent loans for the company, which it
could never pay off, pushing it to bankruptcy.
The controversy came to light, when a whistleblower former-employee of
Moneual took these details to the press. It’s alleged that CEO Harold Park
(Hong-seo... 阅读全帖
l****z
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: longspur (longspur), 信区: USANews
标 题: A123拿了obama 250M,今天破产了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 16 11:47:01 2012, 美东)
DETROIT (AP) -- The U.S. operations of electric car battery maker A123
Systems filed for bankruptcy protection and its automotive assets are being
acquired by Johnson Controls for $125 million.
The announcement Tuesday comes one day after A123 warned in a regulatory
filing that it likely would miss some debt payments and could be headed for
bankruptcy court.
A... 阅读全帖
G****n
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来自主题: Economics版 - top full time finance scholars in China
Zhu Ning 100+ papers
Efficiency and the bear: Short sales and markets around the world[PDF] from
stashbox.org…, WN Goetzmann, N Zhu - The Journal of Finance, 2007 - Wiley
Online Library
We analyze cross-sectional and time-series information from 46 equity
markets around the world
to consider whether short sales restrictions affect the efficiency of the
market and the distributional
characteristics of returns to individual stocks and market indices. We find
some evidence ...
Cited by 174 - Relate... 阅读全帖
d********2
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FROM THE DAILY NEWS
Two private hospitals in Queens will file for bankruptcy today and could
close in coming weeks - leaving 2,500 medical professionals out of work,
sources said.
The board of directors of Caritas Health Care - which runs St. John’s
Queens Hospital in Elmhurst and Mary Immaculate Hospital in Jamaica - voted
Thursday night to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, Caritas said in
a statement.
Caritas said it would file for bankruptcy in federal court and that a
closure plan h
h****8
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Nov. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Jon Corzine’s risk appetite helped
destroy his firm. It also provided an object lesson for Paul
Volcker’s campaign against proprietary trading on Wall Street.
Nineteen months after former New Jersey Governor Corzine
became chairman and chief executive officer, MF Global Holdings
Ltd. yesterday filed for bankruptcy. Corzine’s decision to boost
risk-taking, including a $6.3 billion wager with the firm’s own
money on European government debt, triggered the collapse.
... 阅读全帖
g**1
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When the states go bankruptcy, all of your damn 401K have already gone
bankruptcy. the probability of states government going bankruptcy is zero, a
fantasy dream. by the way, chinese government will save our states
government. lol

time.
g**1
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When the states go bankruptcy, all of your damn 401K have already gone
bankruptcy. the probability of states government going bankruptcy is zero, a
fantasy dream. by the way, chinese government will save our states
government. lol

time.
P******t
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来自主题: Medicalpractice版 - cnn money首页:DOCTORS GOING BROKE (zz)
老调重弹?狼真的来了?
http://money.cnn.com/
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/05/smallbusiness/doctors_broke/ind
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Doctors in America are harboring an embarrassing
secret: Many of them are going broke.
This quiet reality, which is spreading nationwide, is claiming a wide range
of casualties, including family physicians, cardiologists and oncologists.
Industry watchers say the trend is worrisome. Half of all doctors in the
nation operate a private practice. So if a cash crunch forces the de... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - US Economy
Most Americans have not heard of Lang Lang, or his playing piano in White
House. But many--they are supporters of Pres. Obama; a majority of
Massachusetts voters are--are angry they know many of their friends and
relatives who are laid off and that China steals all those jobs (
manufacturing job, that is), by artificially lowering exchange rate of
China's and America's currencies. This is something Chinese need to address-
-urgently. (Fortunately for Taiwan, Americans do not even think of Taiwa... 阅读全帖
m*********a
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看不下去了。一群书呆子在胡说。根本不懂美国法律。土工完全可以血本无归。
请研究一些破产的案例。在美国 unsecured debt may have priority over secured
debt in certain section. Different part can be treated differently.
Following is the example.
Chrysler bankruptcy: Secured bond holders paid 26 cents on dollar and 0% in
new company's stock.
Before secured debt paid in full, unsecured UAW union debt paid with 55% new
Chrysler stock.
General motor bankruptcy: $27 billions unsecured senior bondholders paid
with 10% of the new company and NO cash. The s
j***h
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来自主题: Military版 - Solyndra: Largest VC loss ever? (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 CivilEngineering 讨论区 】
发信人: jeffh (Jeffh), 信区: CivilEngineering
标 题: Solyndra: Largest VC loss ever?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Sep 2 16:35:41 2011, 美东)
Solyndra: Largest VC loss ever?
Boston Business Journal by Kyle Alspach
Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 10:58am EDT
Worst VC investment loss evar? Solyndra's $1.1 billion implosion might be it
. Boston's Rockport Capital Partners was an investor.
Bankruptcy-bound California solar panel maker Solyndra Inc. , whose major
investors include... 阅读全帖
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http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-04/internet-picks-u-s-
关键词:Peter Ackerman,亿万巨富,对冲基金,史上最大的收购案,非暴力反抗政权
研究,政治学实验,金援,集权国家民主化,研究甘地
Internet Picks Presidential Candidate If Ackerman Gets His Way
By Kambiz Foroohar
Peter Ackerman, chairman of Americans Elect, second left, speaks while Chief
Leadership Officer Wendy Drake, left, Chief Executive Officer Kahlil Byrd,
second right, and Elliot Ackerman, chief operating officer of Americans
Elect, right, listen at company headquarters in New York, N... 阅读全帖
h******t
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http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-end-gamethe-dark-side-of-
1. The frustrated and aggressive central bank
If one wants to know how bad the health of China's economy has gone, look no
further than the PBOC's composure, which seems rather frustrated and
aggressive as of late. On 5th July, the central bank cut benchmark interest
rates for the 2nd time in less than a month. This happened right after the
fact that in December 2011, PBOC cut the reserve requirement ratio(RRR) by a
50 bp to 21%, it... 阅读全帖
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Chapter 11 permits reorganization under the bankruptcy laws. Chapter 7
governs the process of a liquidation bankruptcy.
到了Chapter 7,Equity holder才有你说的priority is the last,在Chapter
11Equity holder可以重新组合自己的债务。比如通过让利获得新的资金。如果允许AIG
进入Chapter 11,AIG就可以解除某些对华尔街的某些义务。美国政府BAIL OUT,华尔
街保持了对AIG的各种条款,而且可以收取额外收益。

if
d*****l
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Another difference is that, if Tokyo goes into bankruptcy, the impact on
Japan's economy will be much larger than the impact of Beijing's bankruptcy
on China's economy. So, do not worry too much.
T**********e
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Bankruptcy Lawyer Is Named to Manage an Ailing Detroit
A veteran lawyer who once worked on Chrysler’s bankruptcy has been handed
what may prove to be his toughest case yet: to bring Detroit back from the
edge of financial collapse.
Michigan officials on Thursday appointed the lawyer, Kevyn Orr, a partner in
the Jones Day law firm, as an emergency manager to oversee operations in
Detroit, one of the largest cities to ever receive such intervention.
“This is the Olympics of restructuring,” Mr. Orr... 阅读全帖
a****l
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bankruptcy lawyer taking over Detroit? So the governor is planning a
bankruptcy for Detroit?

handed
in
and
s*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - 几招气死上告的飞车党
legally none of these will work if he has foreseen the liability and
transfers the property. if it is all cash, he might be able to transfer to a
location outside of the court system's power. but then he is still liable
and further charge will be imposed on him due to these fraudulent
transactions. imagine the bankruptcy law, all transactions 9 months prior to
the filing of bankruptcy are voidable. the rationale is similar.
x****u
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国真奇葩

Bankruptcy in US is so different from bankruptcy in China.
l*y
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来自主题: Military版 - 古典音乐已死!我很高兴!
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/01/classical
When it comes to classical music and American culture, the fat lady hasn’t
just sung. Brünnhilde has packed her bags and moved to Boca Raton.
Classical music has been circling the drain for years, of course. There’s
little doubt as to the causes: the fingernail grip of old music in a culture
that venerates the new; new classical music that, in the words of Kingsley
Amis, has about as much chance of public acceptance as pedophilia; f... 阅读全帖
b********n
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http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/22-facts-about-the-
22 Facts About The Coming Demographic Tsunami That Could Destroy Our Economy
All By Itself
US economy is steadily declining.
1. Right now, there are somewhere around 40 million senior citizens in the
United States. By 2050 that number is projected to skyrocket to 89 million.
2. According to the Employee Benefit Research Institute, 46 percent of all
American workers have less than $10,000 saved for retirement, and 29 percent
of all ... 阅读全帖
s******g
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GM 新的 CEO 真是倒霉
GM has recalled more than 20 million vehicles worldwide since January.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/27/news/companies/gm-four-more-rec
General Motors on Friday announced four safety recalls covering nearly 430,
000 vehicles in the U.S.
The recall covers nearly 30,000 air bag inflators in 2013-2014 model year
Chevrolet Cruze sedans. GM (GM) says the inflators could fail or rupture,
which could propel metal pieces that could injure the driver. GM says its
aware of one injury related... 阅读全帖
T**********e
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来自主题: Military版 - 巴马准备让Puerto Rico整体破产
波多黎各劳模要default债务了,不靠联邦输血根本过不下去。
Obama’s radical proposal for Puerto Rico’s debt
Puerto Rico’s debt crisis exploded into view at the end of June, when
Governor Alejandro García Padilla revealed that the island’s fiscal
situation was so bad it wouldn’t be able to repay the $73 billion it owed
to bondholders.
The unexpected statement sent Congress scrambling for a solution, and since
then, the debate has centered on whether Puerto Rico’s public corporations,
like utilities—which hold a significant ... 阅读全帖
s*****V
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来自主题: Military版 - Yellow Cab要破产了
传统出租车真是混不下去了
Yellow Cab Co-Op said challenges from tech rivals Uber and Lyft, as well as
mounting lawsuits from traffic collisions contributed to the fiscal Hail
Mary.
Those “rideshare” companies are headquartered in San Francisco – their
home turf.
Regular cab operations will not be affected in the near future and Yellow
Cab has no plans to close if it can successfully restructure,
representatives said.
The bankruptcy filing will allow the co-op to shed its mounting debts. But
longtime taxi ind... 阅读全帖
l****p
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来自主题: Military版 - 5毛是如何挣到5000万美元的?
http://accessthestars.com/shocking-celebrity-net-worths/8/
50 Cent’s net worth is $15 million. So much for being bankrupt!
50 filed for bankruptcy earlier this year after being sued for $5 million
over a sex tape that he allegedly leaked without permission. He claimed that
he owed as much money as he had and filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy.
But his net worth is a lot lower than most would have guessed because he
made a fortune when Vitamin Water was purchased by Coca Cola. 50 held a 2.5%
stake i... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 让加州独立吧
‘Sanctuary California’ Faces Bankruptcy if Trump Withholds Federal Funds
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/11/26/sanctuary-california-faces-immigration-defunding-bankruptcy/
t*****9
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Trump 根本没打算还钱
Fact Check: Has Trump declared bankruptcy four or six times?
www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-
six-t...
Sep 26, 2016
b********n
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The King of Debt and Moral bankruptcy has spoken.
More weapons for foreign wars; less healthcare for America's senior citizens.
More tax cuts for the wealthiest; more national debt for everybody else.
Less money for the EPA; more arsenic and coal ash in your drinking water.
Less science and technology; more Republican religion and cultured stupidity.
Hey America, enjoy the swirling flush down America's Trump Toilet of fiscal,
intellectual and moral bankruptcy.
63 million Americans couldn't resis... 阅读全帖
g*****g
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来自主题: Military版 - 军火商remington要申请破产了
【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: ggggggg (星光小妹), 信区: USANews
标 题: 军火商remington要申请破产了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 18 21:24:44 2018, 美东)
军火商remington要申请破产了
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-12/cerberus-s-remington-will-cede-control-to-lenders-in-bankruptcy
Remington Outdoor Co., which traces its history back to 1816, said it would
file for bankruptcy protection, succumbing to a slump in business worsened
by, of all things, a president who has steadfastly supported Americans’
right to bear ar... 阅读全帖
c*******2
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来自主题: Military版 - 稀土和WTO, 中国是怎么赢的
大意: 中国2006年限制出口。 2015年被迫放弃限制。
然后, 美国稀土企业全部倒闭。
The Rare Earths Trade Dispute was a trade dispute between China on one side
and several countries led by the US on the other. The dispute was over China
's export restrictions on rare earth elements, plus Tungsten and Molybdenum,
which are used to make many electronics such as smartphones. China controls
97% of the production of these elements. The US, EU and Japan argued that
the restrictions were a violation of the WTO trade regulations. In 2012, t... 阅读全帖
b********n
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你不认英文?
Bankruptcy Surging Among Older Americans
https://www.statista.com/chart/15017/bankruptcy-surging-among-older-
americans/
b****a
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波音公司,联邦政府是一定会去救的; 但是股东就不一定了
不妨参考下08年通用汽车的例子,当时人们的想法也是,政府绝对不会让三大汽车垮塌
的。这话一点没错。
09年,奥巴政府和加拿大政府,还有工会合组了一家公司,NGMCO INC, 美国政府占60
%。NGMCO从GM手里买下所有的资产和GM这个牌子。原GM因为牌子卖掉了,就改名为
Motors Liquidation Company,剩给它的就是老GM的所有债务。NGMCO挂上GM的牌子,
开始营业。2011新GM IPO上市。
至于原通用汽车公司,也就是MLC,
MLC exited bankruptcy on 31 March 2011 only to be carved into four trusts;
the first to settle the claims of unsecured creditors (OTC Pink: MTLQU),
RACER Trust, the second to handle environmental response for MLC's remaining
assets; a thir... 阅读全帖
d******c
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Whiting Petroleum Becomes First Major Shale Bankruptcy as Oil Prices Drop -
WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-shale-driller-whiting-petroleum-to-file-
for-bankruptcy-11585746800
u****n
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Featured comments:
‘Despite growing unemployment, despite ruinous private and public debt,
despite whole states risking bankruptcy, despite the federal government now
paying its bills with nothing but printed paper, Americans keep spending
like good times will roll forever.’
And that’s the problem with the average joe. They grew up being told they
could do anything they wanted with their lives. If it feels good it must be
right. They don’t want to hear the truth about ANYTHING negative if it
cou... 阅读全帖
g********d
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The Surprising Role of Republicans in the Year of Gay Rights
Posted: 06/27/11 12:22 PM ET React Important
Adam Winkler.Professor of Law, UCLA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/the-surprising-role-
This past year has seen a remarkable shift when it comes to gay rights. From
repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell to New York's legalization of same-sex
marriage, America is finally embracing equal rights for all, regardless of
sexual orientation. Surprisingly, Republicans have played a vital role ... 阅读全帖
D*V
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http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/22-facts-about-the-
22 Facts About The Coming Demographic Tsunami That Could Destroy Our Economy
All By Itself
US economy is steadily declining.
1. Right now, there are somewhere around 40 million senior citizens in the
United States. By 2050 that number is projected to skyrocket to 89 million.
2. According to the Employee Benefit Research Institute, 46 percent of all
American workers have less than $10,000 saved for retirement, and 29 percent
of all A... 阅读全帖
y****t
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来自主题: USANews版 - 从医疗改革看移民改革的前景
what the hell,
The bankruptcy of the country and the bankruptcy of the individual. Which is
more severe?
人民公社,大跃进你是可以搞啊,人人敞开肚子吃饭好了,最后怎么样,饿死(三)千万.

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Another thing I am predicting is that "ford will be fucked up by GM in the
future". UAW gave further concession to GM in bankruptcy. Those cost saving
benefit is denied for ford. GM's debts is $100 billions less than ford. The
overall cost of GM is 8 billions less per year that can be spent on research
or pushing other car makers like ford or toyota to bankruptcy.
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By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Published on DickMorris.com
on January 31, 2011
When Obama started to speak about the need to improve education, upgrade our
schools and attract quality teachers, an elephant appeared in the living
rooms of most Americans who were watching. Obama never mentioned the beast,
but most of the country saw clearly the three letters on his back -- AFT.
American Federation of Teachers -- the union that, along with its
counterpart, the NEA, National Education Association, h... 阅读全帖
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