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q**u
发帖数: 12289
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
以CAFENA的名义,要求BATF书面澄清非移民外国人购枪拥枪的联邦法律条款。虽然
远水解不了zoun的近渴,但是手里有BATF白纸黑字的文件,将来买枪的同学可以放
心一些。如果谁有买枪计划但又不十分急切的话,可以等我拿到BATF回信再买。到
时候我可以寄份复印件给你,你带着去枪店。
r****9
发帖数: 4961
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
I found something from BATF may be helpful. check this one
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/GunsAndGears/31180899.html
t**********n
发帖数: 135
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
BATF有反应了么?
t**********n
发帖数: 135
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
BATF有反应了么?
r****9
发帖数: 4961
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BATF 关于非移民签证可以买枪的文件, 非常明确的说明了非移民签证有猎照可以买枪
。大家买枪的时候可以带上,避免麻烦。 重贴一下。希望版主收藏。
s****r
发帖数: 31686
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - What To Do If Your Firearm Is Stolen
As discussed in a previous article, part of responsible firearms ownership i
s making every reasonable effort to prevent unauthorized persons from gainin
g access to them. Unfortunately – despite often Herculean efforts by firear
ms owners – the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE)
reports that thousands of firearms are stolen every year. While the goal of
the responsible firearms owner should be for their firearm never to be stol
en, there are steps that must be taken bot... 阅读全帖
c****8
发帖数: 1211
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美國是一個大國,它採用聯邦制,合眾國的各州,擁有相當大的自由。因此各州的法
律,形形色色,這對外來的人來說,是相當不容易搞清楚的。以槍械法令來說,在紐約
州,各式各樣的半自動步槍並不列入管制,但是在紐約市,就完全是另一回事了,半自
動步槍如果有以下的一樣特徵,就屬於非法:
突出的手槍把,
彈匣容量超過五發,
防火帽,
刺刀座,
榴彈發射器,
有節上護蓋,
折合式槍托,
按照這個規定,所有的M16,M14,AK,SKS類型步槍都屬於非法。
同一州尚且如此,何況是別的地方。所以要談槍械管制,必須要先講清楚是那一個州。
一般來說,東北部管的比較嚴,可是也有例外,像緬因州(Maine),新罕布什爾州(New
Hampshire)就很鬆。中西部管的比較鬆,可是也有例外,芝加哥(Chicago)從一九八六
年起,不允許私人擁有手槍,號稱無槍市。那才是個大笑話,芝加哥的黑社會,人人有
槍,連十歲小孩都有槍,是美國槍械犯罪最嚴重的都市之... 阅读全帖
W*******a
发帖数: 1769
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来自主题: Military版 - 所以还是需要有枪
别胡扯了,墨西哥gun law比中国松多了,在你眼里只要比美国严的都叫‘控制严’
http://www.davekopel.com/espanol/Mexican-Gun-Laws.htm
The Mexican Constitution guarantees the right of Mexicans to possess
arms. Even so, gun control laws in Mexico are very strict, and police
discretion in enforcement makes possession of firearms of greater than
.22 very difficult.
The Cinco de Mayo celebration, commemorating Mexico’s 1867 victory
against French colonialists enjoys a little-known tie to American
firearms. Before the French Emperor Nap... 阅读全帖
b*****e
发帖数: 5133
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - PWS FSC556 muzzle brake or flash hider?
All of the FSC Series muzzle devices have been classified as a non-flash
suppressing device by the BATFE, thus removing any restriction from assault
weapon ban states or provinces. See the BATFE document here.
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/documents/ATF_FSC556.pdf
加州如果说FSC556不合法,是不是要先和BATFE较劲?
h*********r
发帖数: 1943
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 请问申请买消音器
BATF officer said that if his/her state's law doesn't prohibit alien to own
CIII item, then BATF can process the case for alien.
And as I have seen before, CIII application document does have a column to
ask if you are an non-immigrant alien or not, just like 4473
So legally speaking, the answer should be yes. But whether BATF will approve
the case finally or not is unknown
c***c
发帖数: 21374
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CLINTON BODY COUNT
By: Ether Zone Staff
Here is the latest body count that we have. All of these people have been
connected with the Clintons in some form or another. We have not included
any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clinton scandals.
All deaths are listed chronologically by date. This list is current and
accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999 August 1, 2000.
Susan Coleman: Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill
Clinton. She ... 阅读全帖
y***u
发帖数: 7039
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来自主题: Military版 - 93年德州威克大屠杀
93年德州威克大屠杀
After the February raid by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
(BATF) of David Koresh's dissident religious community at Waco, Texas, the
FBI and the U.S. Army took over, mounting a 51-day siege. This included such
psy-war tactics as sleep deprivation of the inhabitants of the community by
means of all-night broadcasts of recordings of the screams of rabbits being
slaughtered.
Finally, despite David Koresh's pledge to surrender upon completion of his
written explanation o... 阅读全帖
b****a
发帖数: 4465
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来自主题: Military版 - 克林顿身边人的非正常死亡率
The following is a list of a number of persons who have died in suspicious
circumstances who had connection to the Clintons or the Clinton's dealings.
Name Date Cause Explanation
---- ---- ----- -----------
Ron Brown's 04/96 Murdered Drive by shooting
Lawyer
Ron Brown 04/96 Plane Crash Commerce Sec. near indictment
Secretary of U.S. Commerce
34 Passengers 04/96 Plane Crash On plane with Brown.
Adm. Borda 1996... 阅读全帖
J*V
发帖数: 3150
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来自主题: RisingChina版 - 93年德州威克大屠杀
93年德州威克大屠杀
After the February raid by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
(BATF) of David Koresh's dissident religious community at Waco, Texas, the
FBI and the U.S. Army took over, mounting a 51-day siege. This included such
psy-war tactics as sleep deprivation of the inhabitants of the community by
means of all-night broadcasts of recordings of the screams of rabbits being
slaughtered.
Finally, despite David Koresh's pledge to surrender upon completion of his
written explanation o... 阅读全帖
f*********n
发帖数: 11154
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来自主题: Carolinas版 - [活动] 北卡打猎入门信息
不久前版上有位朋友征集猎友,当时简单的回复了一下,想不到后来有几位朋友陆续在站内联
络。趁这次版上活动,把北卡打猎一些基本的信息和大家分享一下。因为涉及到一些术语和法
律上的信息,这些都用英文写出来。遗漏和错误的信息,欢迎指正。
需要做的准备工作:
1. 工具。根据选定的猎物,决定需要什么样的工具。常见的打猎工具基本上都是美国联邦和
北卡州法律控制的东西;购买时有一定的限制。怎么购买工具,多大口径,校正,调光瞄,归
零这些具体事情,如果有必要,以后单独开一个帖子讨论。
这里简单的说明一下,火器(firearm)购置由美国联邦Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives(简称ATF或者BATF或者BATFE)按照《美国律》(US Code)
执行管理。相关法律在这里:
http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/laws/
北卡的枪支法律:
http://www.grnc.org/guns.htm
触犯枪支法律的后果:
除了所需要担负的刑事和民事责任外,所有非美国公民还要注意《美国律》中的一条法律
q**u
发帖数: 12289
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 能不能让美国人买长枪,再卖给我
BATF规定,non-immigrant alien购枪,必须通过FFL。版上前段时间特意研究过
这个问题,不会有错。你可以去BATF网站上查,也可以在版上考一下古。精华
区里应该也有相关信息。

violate
that
license
such
t******y
发帖数: 5040
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表上的规定是一回事,FFL DEALER愿意接受那些表格上另外一回事。
我曾经用电缆电视的账单做为证据买过枪。结果年底的时候,DEALER发挂号信来说请我跟他联络,原来是一位BATF的黑人女性职员检查他的记录,说只有水电账单才合格!老头把表格上的单子给她看,那女人说:我不管,我就认水电账单!我靠,BATF的官员不认自家的规定。他一个白人老头,不愿意跟黑人女官员扯皮,所以只好麻烦我们重新交证据。
从此以后,我也跟其他人说:还是用水电账单吧。
记得以前有的枪店也是只看水电账单,你让他看那表格后面列的单子也没有用。人家是OLD SCHOOL,不跟你搞这些新名堂。
FFL DEALER可以跟你做生意,也可以不跟你做生意,这由他说了算。
表格后面的那个单子只是表面政府可以接受这些东西作为证据,这算是个全集。某些
FFL DEALER认的只是一个子集,很小的子集。
f*********n
发帖数: 11154
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - A SBR AR15 That's not SBR
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/10/06/franklin-armory-x
Franklin Armory is producing a weird AR-15 they call the XO-26. It is
essentially a Short Barreled Rifle with a vertical foregrip and no stock.
What is especially interesting is that the BATFE don't consider it a SBR (
Short Barreled Rifle) or a AOW (All Other Weapon) therefore is needs no
special NFA paperwork to purchase and own. If it was classified as a pistol,
like all other short barreled pistol-type AR-15s, using a forward ve... 阅读全帖
b**********y
发帖数: 7371
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - A SBR AR15 That's not SBR
俺不敢苟同. BATF的解释和论点是有普遍性的, 应适用于所有符合条件的喷子
当然, BATF可以并可能发表新的论点和解释, 推翻前论.
h*********n
发帖数: 11319
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 美国枪民3D打印AR -15来复枪
http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-lower-receiver.html
Do I need an FFL to make a firearm?
In a short answer, no. As long as you can legally own the firearm in the
state, county and city you reside in you are allowed to manufacture a
firearm for your own personal use. No serial number is required however it
is suggested to engrave a serial number, model and manufacturer on your
receiver in case it is lost or stolen.
All National Firearms Act (NFA) regulations apply to your firearm. You may
crea... 阅读全帖
s****r
发帖数: 31686
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来自主题: Detective版 - MD同学们注意了
【 以下文字转载自 GunsAndGears 讨论区 】
发信人: TMR (Gangnam Style), 信区: GunsAndGears
标 题: MD同学们注意了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 15 11:13:32 2013, 美东)
There is no execuse of not knowing the LAW:
§ 3-322. Unnatural or perverted sexual practice.
.(a) Prohibited.- A person may not:
..(1) take the sexual organ of another or of an animal in the person's mouth
;
..(2) place the person's sexual organ in the mouth of another or of an
animal; ..or
..(3) commit another unnatural or perverted sexual practice with another or... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 床铺非常恨文科生,哈哈哈
National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, and
Corporation for Public Broadcasting are rather trivial expenses compared
with the federal budget, but they are also unnecessary expenses. With a $20T
debt, we cannot justify borrowing to pay for these and leaving that added
debt to our children.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Debt per taxpayer: $166,000
I hope the Department of Education, the Department of Energy (except their
nuclear weapons), BATFE, and most of the EPA ar... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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I read an article in USA Today that was ironic in that the report was on how
much American originated ammo made its way into Mexico. It emphasized the
penalties in Mexico for obtaining even one illegal bullet. So, the natural
path the article took was how drug cartels used American ammo purchases from
individuals, gun shows etc., to arm themselves. What was ironic was an ATF
agent that was interviewed. His comments were of someone incredulous how so
much ammo made its way into Mexico by so many ... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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抓革命,促生产.
疤蟆一抓控枪这个革命,生产还真的上去了.
U.S. Firearm Production Sets Record in 2012: AR-15 Production Up Over 100%
Posted on February 21, 2014
The number of firearms manufactured in the U.S. for sale to American
customers hit an all-time high in 2012, according to the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (BATFE) new Firearms Manufacturers and
Export Report. American firearm manufacturers produced roughly 8.3 million
firearms for sale in the U.S., a new record, up 33 percent from the 6.2
mi... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 床铺非常恨文科生,哈哈哈
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 23 12:22:27 2017, 美东)
National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, and
Corporation for Public Broadcasting are rather trivial expenses compared
with the federal budget, but they are also unnecessary expenses. With a $20T
debt, we cannot justify borrowing to pay for these and leaving that added
debt to our children.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
De... 阅读全帖
b*****d
发帖数: 61690
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来自主题: USANews版 - NRA给绿灯了
The National Rifle Association in its first statement on the Las Vegas
shootings is calling for additional regulations on a device used by the
shooter that allows more rounds to be fired by a single pull of the trigger.
The NRA stops short of calling for legislation on "bump stocks," however,
and instead urges lawmakers to pass "National Right-to-Carry reciprocity"
which it says would allow people to defend themselves.
The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act would allow gun owners to travel state-
t... 阅读全帖
f****t
发帖数: 15913
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Day 1: LC, GX, F150, F250, Trailer
爽啊,你们这是真正的BATF(buereau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms)
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: ebiz版 - 今天刚买的M4 CALT 奔一张
真正的M4 (M4A1)机匣上会印着“Property of U.S Government", 不管是用什么下机
匣。
我打过的M4A1, Mk18都是Crane送来的upper加上M16A1下机匣, 其他branch的我就不晓
得了。
LZ这么肯定自己买的是M4, 小心BATF agent来敲门哦 :D
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 2012年卖给美国老百姓的枪支生产量创记录
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 23 16:55:22 2014, 美东)
抓革命,促生产.
疤蟆一抓控枪这个革命,生产还真的上去了.
U.S. Firearm Production Sets Record in 2012: AR-15 Production Up Over 100%
Posted on February 21, 2014
The number of firearms manufactured in the U.S. for sale to American
customers hit an all-time high in 2012, according to the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (BATFE) new Firearms Manufacturers and
Export Report. Ameri... 阅读全帖
f*********r
发帖数: 7485
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来自主题: LosAngeles版 - 求问求问:买枪买电棒
枪 batf 的規定是沒有綠卡就需要hunting license。加州應該沒有其他的要求
q**u
发帖数: 12289
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - How to Own a NFA Weapon (自动武器)
How To Own a NFA Weapon
(Machine Guns, etc.)
You can be the first on your block to legally own a machine gun, or other
NFA weapon, if you meet these federal requirements:
You must be a U.S. citizen over 21 years of age.
You must live in a state that allows Class 3 weapons (find out here).
You must be clear of any felonies as verified by an F.B.I. background check.
You must submit a fingerprint card and two passport photos, which are kept
on file by the BATF.
You must obtain a signature from your
c**d
发帖数: 3888
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺在考虑先不装ar15
TopHuang, I think there is a limit to how many handguns you can buy in a
month in CA. You should be careful. I know innocent citizens have gotten
surprise visits from BATF agents because of that...
f*********n
发帖数: 11154
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 求推荐ak
可惜MAK-90现在是烫手的山芋啊。有3rd hole的BATFE肯定感兴趣,没有的也找一身腥
f******u
发帖数: 767
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 枪管多长就算是SBR?
You are right. Just learnt from NFA rules that it is illegal to posses a
rifle with a barrel less than 16” or a rifle with an over all length of
less than 26” unless it is registered to you in the NFA Registry. You can
only legally build a SBR if you submit an application to build a SBR to the
BATFE and pay a $200.00 Tax.
H****r
发帖数: 16240
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 气枪可以装消声器么?
但BATF会解释为,你的消音器拿下来就可以直接接在火器上用啊……
至于你拥不拥有可用的火器都无所谓——这就好像我们现在自己山寨一个.45消音器,
哪怕根本没拥枪也犯法,是一个道理。
据说要是把消音器永久性固定在气枪管上好像可以,比如硬焊;
但我估计肯zoun肯定不想这么做:)
我印象里黄论坛上的人通常是去买一根已经整合了消音功能的管子去整个换上
他们而且规避像silencer、muffler之类的词,叫做shrouded barrel。
通常说到气枪的shrouded barrel,就不像火器枪管用这个词的时候是单纯加个套
气枪管整成这样都是为了消音的
好久没去看气枪方面的讨论,记得这么搞应该合法——以前还有人贴图如何DIY一个
shroud到现有的枪管上(永久性的),你得去那论坛里面慢慢找了。

器起
D******r
发帖数: 491
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 组装AR15或M4?
I think Kits are still being imported.
But new BATF rules bars barrels from being imported.
z**n
发帖数: 22303
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - zoun嫂最好的办法是打电话找律师
刚才给NRA推荐的两个律师都打了电话,似乎都对外国人买枪的事情不熟悉。一个基本
没用,还有一个比较热心。他说让我马上给court pretrial service 打电话,找到给
zoun的case写报告的人。那个人是决定今天如何处理zoun的关键人物:立即释放,保释
还是其他,都由他说了算。律师让我打电话给他,跟他说说zoun的情况,但是不能谈这
个case.律师还说,法官会给我们指派一个律师。 他说先用那个律师,一般都是挺好的
律师,他自己也经常被法庭指派。如果我感觉不好,再去找他。我今天可以随时打电话
向他咨询。一会我再给大家推荐的那个本地律师打个电话,如果说法一致,我再联系
service的人。
大家说我需要给BATF打电话核实有关外国人能否买枪的事实么?怎么感觉打了几个电话
,他们都不知道这个事情。:-(
c*****a
发帖数: 477
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - zoun嫂最好的办法是打电话找律师
律师应该知道怎么对付这件事. 若不清楚, 会推荐其他律师.先打一通电话再说. BATF
的电话还是要打的. 至少自己多知道些事情.
大家都很关心zoun.
H****r
发帖数: 16240
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - zoun嫂最好的办法是打电话找律师
所以我们一直在建议她找
1. NRA推荐的律师
2. BATF推荐律师
那些对涉枪法律比较熟悉
另外,老兄您如果有什么更具体的建议,或者又找律师的详细经验,这里公开说可能不
方便
可以给zoun发站内信,她看得到
或者给版主qwyu发站内信,绝对能转给zoun嫂。
m*******r
发帖数: 2044
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - zoun嫂最好的办法是打电话找律师
NRA, BATF的律师没有用的,必须得当地有面子的刑事律师,马上就搞定了。道理其实
很简单,就是被人坑了,问题是涉及到美国狗屁的国土安全,联邦安全,美国人就失去
理智了。所以一定得个有名的律师,人家给个面子就出来了。出来以后再换民事律师、
媒体狠狠搞之。如果不在乎出名的话,应该是有很多犄角旮旯的地方可以入手,但是只
能从一个地方,大概同一件事情不能反复地换话题,这个得非常牛的民事律师,估计亚
利桑那都难找到。
zoun嫂应该能看得到。这个时候不要太着急,不要仓促找律师,如果一开始律师找坏了
估计就彻底难办了。
H****r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - zoun嫂最好的办法是打电话找律师
为啥不继续用greadymit,又换了个ID来发言?
反正你一句话,NRA和BATF的律师就没有用了……
你帮忙想想办法,比如搜搜AZ有面子的刑事律师推荐给zoun嫂吧
她现在是最忙最难受的时候。
H****r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
赞老大
功德无量
M*j
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
赞老大,有啥需要打杂的摇旗的敲鼓的,请说话。
C*******r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
这个得支持。
S****r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
Support!
l*****7
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
这个要攒
g*******t
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
下面脑残搞你没商量。
g*******t
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
zoun是合法的,又不是非法。
q**u
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
俺不怕nc搞。伊们也搞不到俺啥。
z******t
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 俺明天致信BATF
有这个就太好了……说不定我是下一个被诱捕的呢
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