D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 1 如果不是这个原因，恐怕也不会有那么多"birthers"直到今天还没完没了。 |
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 2 不论说yourtt什么，我都只是想笑．它也是美新几大反同元老级别人物了，对现总统的
态度比birthers还要更可怕（你知道我什么意思）.这个yourtt ID,我下意识解析为"你
的套套". |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 3 this is exact quote from our No.1 original birther |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 4 obama的conneticut SSN.
The investigators believe Obama needs to explain why he is using a Social
Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants that was issued at a
date later than he is known to have held employment.
whatever birther term you wanna throw, facts just do not match.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152773 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 5 PHOENIX - The Arizona Senate has approved a revised bill requiring
presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens eligible to run for
the office.
The bill approved Wednesday gives candidates additional ways to prove they
meet the constitutional requirements to be president.
It was prompted by the ongoing claim by some that there is no proof
President Barack Obama was born in the United States and is therefore
ineligible to be president.
Democrats argued the bill exceeds the state's auth... 阅读全帖 |
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l******i
发帖数: 4666 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: SteelDragon (金箍如意), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: 美国茶党之我见
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 7 08:28:46 2011, 美东)
茶党是什么人？是右翼保守派人士。言辞行动激进，活动能力极强。呱噪分贝很高，由
此抢了很多媒体的眼球。
还别说，茶党里还真有我比较看重的人。德州众议员Ron Paul。我欣赏他的逻辑一贯坚
持不屑，屡败屡战。比方说他反对伊拉克战争，反对美国在国外的一切军事卷入。这一
派的存在不引人注目。就如同Ron Paul站在共和党初选辩论台上成隐形人一样。
其他的茶党人士基本是鱼龙混珠，驴鳖虾蟹都有。比方说带枪参加集会的，要用血来浇
灌自由之树；或者直称噢巴马是希特勒的。在town hall meeting上，脸上青筋直冒，
唾沫星喷出三尺之外。
其他的代表人物如Sarah Palin, 属于胸大（小？）无脑之人。州长坐一半儿请辞，但
一直觊觎总统宝座。另外一个是Michele Bachmann, 基本每天都能得到上帝的启示，一
天有一半的时间在和神沟通... 阅读全帖 |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 7 It is Barack Hussein Obama himself.
lol... |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 9 An election night that began with Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker
winning his recall election grew progressively worse for public-sector
unions as California voters approved steep pension-cutting measures in two
major cities.
Voters in San Diego and San Jose overwhelmingly passed ballot initiatives
Tuesday to reduce retirement benefits for city workers by switching from
traditional plans to 401(k)-style contribution plans. San Diego voters also
approved a second proposition allowing the c... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4321 | 10 simply look at those retards who endorsed end-of-life counseling accused
Obama of running death panel when he jumped on board.
those retarded deathers, and birthers.and those who wants to water the
liberty tree with blood simply because of his skin color.
given the circumstances, he did pretty well. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 11 一群truther笑人家是birther?
我X.
我老人家就是打个比方,让人家看看你们的表演有多滑稽. |
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t*****o
发帖数: 81 | 12 just like those pathetic teabag birthers. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 13 Luntz focus group在O/R辩论结束的时候做过一个调查,请的基本都是2008年曾投过给
obama的选民.有个选民是这样讲的.
"I was not undecided between Obama and Romney. I was undecided between
Romney and not voting."
一个选民,08年投了obama,今年不愿意投票,最后被逼投romney,这样的选民到底是什么
样的选民呢?
嘿嘿...这话又要说回08年了...
想当初,给08最大恶梦的从来不是john mccain,
而是...
她,
她半夜三点给他打了一个电话,惊了他一身冷汗.
还有估计屎坑崽,poopers更不知道的是,所谓birther始作佣者跟conservative一点关系
没有.而是她的嫡系larry johnson. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 14 by Jammie
If the White House thought the image of Obama allegedly skeet shooting would
quiet critics they were sorely mistaken.
He’s full of skeet!
Gun owners lampooned President Obama as Elmer Fudd yesterday after the
White House released a photo — in the middle of a fierce national firearms
debate — of the commander-in-chief shooting clay targets at Camp David over
the summer.
While the president’s shooting skills were being mocked, his own gun-
control allies privately fretted tha... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 15 Chris Matthews on Boston Bombers: ‘What difference does it make why they
did it if they did it?’
by Jammie
What difference does it make. Hmm, that sounds so familiar. We suppose that
’s the standard reaction from the left in the face of terror. Be assured he
would not be asking such a question if the terrorists were “white right-
wing extremists” as he and the left had so fervently hoped.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC: I know we’re filled in this country with some
strange thinking people, truthers, ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 16 Democrat Email: ‘Sign our note to President Obama thanking him for all he’
s done’
by Jammie via Jammie Wearing Fools
You can’t make this stuff up.
Okay guys – this @dccc email is so ridiculous I put it in a google doc
for all who aren't on their list. ENJOY https://t.co/Ys0i5OZbAf
— Shoshana Weissmann (@senatorshoshana) November 5, 2014
Yes, it’s really bad.
Harry Reid blocked bills so Obama wouldn't look bad by vetoing. @dccc
ends "we lost" email asking you to thank Obama https://t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 382 | 17 Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. See wikipedia and Linkins, Jason (
October 20, 2011). "Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal Become Focus Of Bipartisan
Birthers". The Huffington Post.
Don't assume anything before you can find a support.
shot |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 18 Defiant Trump insists he has no moral obligation to defend Obama | New York
Post
upda
The same media that worked for John McCain's defeat now lauds him for
how he dealt with a birther asking a question in 2008....Now Donald Trump is
getting piled on for not correcting or reprimanding a questioner in NH who
got up and called the President Muslim and asked how we can get rid of them.
Assuming the questioner was legit there is no way he could have
responded that would have satisfied h... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 19 尤其bush会带头，这家伙已经desperate，cruz会添油加醋，trump只要站住了，就不会
失大分。
对cruz，只要他birther被问到，基本就输了，无论trump或其他人怎么回答，因为会有
更多的人知道他是在canada生的，知道最近才denounce，就看他如何自救，要是能把自
己变成受害者，变成是民主党的阴谋，也许会少失分。
在trump是不是保守，是不是内奸的问题，估计不会影响太大，因为只要指明，只有
trump现在在打老太太，而且一打就打到七寸了。
debate应该很好看。 |
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发帖数: 232 | 20 祝Trump成功晋级
尤其bush会带头，这家伙已经desperate，cruz会添油加醋，trump只要站住了，就不会
失大分。对cruz，只要他birther被问到，基本就输了，无论trump或其........ |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 21 的确不是个简单的回答。
根据1790年的这个是对CRUZ最有力的支持。但是，不少人认为这个natrual born的解释
会是controversial。TRUMP的评估是risk，这也是合理的。给CRUZ支招是去法院要求
declaratory judgement。
In terms of the American founding itself, there is no clear support for
either the narrow or the broader interpretation. Those who favor the latter
point to the Naturalization Act of 1790, which states that "the children of
citizens of the United States … shall be considered as natural born
citizens." The act adds an exception, which is that "the right of
citizen... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8869 | 22 "the children of citizens of the United States … shall be considered as
natural born citizens."
"shall be considered"意思是cruz“可以被视为”natural born citizen，恰恰说明
他不是真正的natural born citizen.
下面这篇文章已经从法源上枪毙了cruz
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-
president/2016/01/12/1484a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html
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发帖数: 10729 | 23 你那个链接我回头看。
不过1790年的那句，shall be considered as natural born citizens就是法律承认是
natural born citizen的意思。并不是你说的“不是真正的natural born citizen” |
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发帖数: 10729 | 24 我觉得你连接里论证的这个点非常薄弱。“Cruz was naturalized at birth.”这相当
牵强。
如果CRUZ没有经过naturalization这个手续，如果不是natrual born，怎么解释他却是
美国公民？原作者搞了好多弯。但是我认为经不住推敲。automatic acquisition of
citizenship。那一个在美国生的（即狭义的符合natural born条款的人）也实际上是
automatic被赋予了citizenship。也是要经过测试：To become a citizen at birth,
you must have been born in the United States。所以多绕这个弯子并不hurt CRUZ
的情况。
Cruz is, of course, a U.S. citizen. As he was born in Canada, he is not
natural-born. His mother, however, is an American, and Congress has provided
by sta... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10469 | 25 https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/01/14/10-reasons-
that-goldman-sachs-loan-is-a-nightmare-for-ted-cruz/
This New York Times story could not have come at a worse time for Sen. Ted
Cruz (R-Tex.), who had already been knocked off-balance by Donald Trump, is
falling in his must-win state of Iowa and is being attacked as a slick
politician who won’t level with voters:
As Ted Cruz tells it, the story of how he financed his upstart campaign
for the United States Senate four y... 阅读全帖 |
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l******r
发帖数: 544 | 26 首先这两个主持人是pro-trump,特别是maria,看他们平时的节目就知道。
birther问题在全国人民面前提出来cruz就输了，trump的回应也很强，特别是实时掌握
观众反映的能力，抵消了cruz的辩论技巧。地域坑问题，Trump全胜，应该没有异议。
cruz对rubio的凌厉攻击有点措手不及。 rubio打cruz, 打胖子，就是不打trump, 很有
意思，是不是看到trump不会选cruz作vp, 想上位。他攻击力强，跟trump有互补，就是
trump可能看不起他这种连理财都不会的。
carson应该是done了，看着有点难受。结巴还是一如既往的小丑，男人婆一如既往的
annoying。胖子没亮点，可惜了。
trump的performance很让人放心，会继续上升。cruze 这次应该是失分了。 |
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 27 撇开其他的不说。卖东西于无形，美国很吃这套。政客遇见床铺都得靠边。
就像上次床铺开搞CRUZ的birther问题。 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 28 看看这个poll chart，trump和cruz基本平行，cruz实际上一直躲在trump后面，直到年
后，trump开打birther，cruz觉得的机会来了，想拿下iowa，压下trump，现在结果并
不好，trump没hurt多少，倒很可能rubio上来。
cruz无非就是政治嗅觉很好，看trump刚出来时taking so much heat，他是仅有的一两
个，发现会对自己有利，想笑嘻嘻在后面收割trump的voter，但实际上trump voter很
多是Reagan democrats，根本不会选极右的cruz。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 29 "Please tell Ted Cruz he can't be president," said an email to us. "He was
born in Canada!"
We have no interest in another "birther" controversy, but we were curious
for more information.
The basic biography: Cruz was born in 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, while his
parents were working there.
His Cuban-born father, who is now an American citizen, was not at the time.
His mother was born in Delaware. The family returned to the United States
when Cruz was 4.
The Constitution gives three eligibility re... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 30 While the Republican presidential frontrunner’s support appears as solid
and stable as any celebrity’s, it would be a mistake for political
observers to claim that Donald Trump is infallible merely because his floor
in the polls won’t budge. If it weren’t clear at the time that the reality
television star’s refusal to clearly and unequivocally decline the support
of the KKK, David Duke, and other white nationalist organizations was an
error, it should be today. Save for the famous immigration ha... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1034 | 31 http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/12/enraged-bernie-sanders-o
As is the case virtually every day, Donald Trump is showing the American
people that he is a pathological liar. Obviously, while I appreciate that we
had supporters at Trump’s rally in Chicago, our campaign did not organize
the protests.
What caused the protests at Trump’s rally is a candidate that has promoted
hatred and division against Latinos, Muslims, women, and people with
disabilities, and his birther attacks against the legi... 阅读全帖 |
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z****0
发帖数: 3942 | 32 Romney说得没错啊！川普想啥呢？
不公布tax return就想选总统？
当初在川普为代表的birther无理要求下，奥巴马连出生证都公布了。
Trump
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 34 The shorter version of what President Barack Obama said Tuesday: Donald
Trump is an idiot.
The slightly longer version: The presumptive Republican nominee is a
dangerous manipulator who's either willfully or ignorantly out to damage the
country and put more Americans in danger, all for the sake of propelling a
brand of politics that responsible Republicans know they can't support.
Story Continued Below
As Obama himself put it—the day after Trump breached whatever was left of
nonpartisan respect ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 35 这次大选，trump 和 奥巴 这对 隔空对战 会很多，也精彩的多。如果 hillary 被放
到一边，那trump 赢定了。
其实，trump 当年搞 birther，就赢了 奥巴，因为，hillary，mccain，romney，还有
GOP 里的很都头头，都没能 逼 奥巴 出示 出生证，只有trump 做到了。虽然，奥巴，
最后赢了lip和last words，但行动上，他是被逼的。
在一个，奥巴出示的出生证，很可能有问题，还不明不白，很蹊跷的死了那个帮他搞出
生证 官员。 |
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发帖数: 137 | 36 我从来不觉得Trump属于共和党，他只是看到机会，盗走了共和党的候选人席位，我把
所有的政客，无论共和党还是民族党，放在一个水平线上，他们各自有各自的优缺点，
可以分别来讨论，Trump则不同，他是完完全全的另类，他的实际政治经济学水平和其
他政客根本不在一个水平线上，无论他的票多少，我都觉得他连最起码的竞选资格都没
有。他成为共和党的候选人，是共和党的悲哀，也是整个美国人的悲哀。
下面说说我为什么讨厌他：
1， 他喜欢散布阴谋论，不是用事实，科学方法论证，而是我听说，我在网上听说，
somebody说，来企图散布一些阴谋论，在他的世界里，凡事反对他的观点，不喜欢他的
人都是在一个巨大的阴谋里， 所有的媒体都在“故意抹黑他”，为什么不是大部分的
媒体都有最基本的职业操守，不能忍受Trump这样偏激，insulting的行为方式呢？他几
年前搞的birther 运动，散布的就是Obama总统不是在美国出生的，如果Obama是个白人
，他根本就不会有这个质疑，他如此容易相信坊间流传的阴谋论，这样的人怎么可以让
人信服？更不用说，他觉得加州根本没有干旱，就是民主党故意不想让农民有好日子过。
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发帖数: 24733 | 37 birther？呵呵，奥粑粑这个总有一天会被挖出来 |
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发帖数: 1 | 38 Liberals don't even want to prove the few
qualifications required to run for the President.
It's really simple, show the birth certificate,
not dozens of circumstantial evidences.
This is why the Birther gate didn't hurt Trump;
everybody knows, including liberals, that Obama was being an asshole
to play the game; so Trump being an asshole too isn't a big deal. |
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发帖数: 594 | 39 from WSJ:
“I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I
respect,” Mr. Powell wrote, before describing her as having “unbridled
ambition, greedy, not transformational.”
He went on to make a disparaging reference to the marital infidelity of her
husband Bill Clinton.
（这值的就是"at home dicking bimbos", 此处删去4个字:)
“Everything [she] touches she kind of screws up with hubris,”
“mishandling of this has really given her a major problem I do not wish to
get involved in, despite the bes... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10469 | 47 飞机失事，还就死了一个，这个偏偏是给奥黑提供这个出生证的 |
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