y*******o 发帖数: 289 | 1 我是新人,没有具体研究过inventory data的数字,但是对于版上一些人匆忙的叫嚣着
烙印要大跃进的做法不是很理解。这事又不是小孩子抢糖吃。
上面律师函的节选在我看来就是笑话,一点威慑力都没有,做杯垫都嫌不够厚。
现在我们手上的facts有多少?准备根据哪个statute来告他?有没有可能收集到他收到
烙印好处的证据(那样就直接走bribery了。。。不过估计难度很大)? |
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发帖数: 1 | 2 写给华尔街三名记者的一封信:请恪守媒体人的原则与灵魂,并致美国记者协会(中文
全文附后)
Dear Miss Kate, Miss Aruna and Mr. Cezary:
On October 22, the Wall Street Journal published your report, China’s
Pursuit of Fugitive Businessman Guo Wengui Kicks Off Manhattan Caper Worthy
of Spy Thriller, which reported some of the contacts between official from
China’s Ministry of State Security and Guo Wengui. The report writes about
situation when four officials from China’s Ministry of State Security met
with Guo Wengui, and cited insiders in the... 阅读全帖 |
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c****t 发帖数: 348 | 3 Office of Siemens CEO searched in corruption investigation
MUNICH, Germany (AP) - Investigators probing suspected corruption at Siemens
AG have searched the offices of top managers, including Chief Executive
Klaus Kleinfeld, officials said Monday.
Prosecutors searched offices of the electronics conglomerate across Germany
last week as part of an investigation into the alleged embezzlement of
company funds and possible bribery.
Anton Winkler, a prosecutor in Munich, and a spokesman for Siemens sa |
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r*******t 发帖数: 8550 | 4 http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1292777/bo-xilais-son-bo
Bo Xilai's son Bo Guagua continues his studies at Columbia University
Bo Guagua, the son of disgraced former Chongqing party secretary Bo Xilai,
appears to be enrolled in the prestigious Columbia Law School at Columbia
University, according to public records available on the school’s website.
The university directory shows that a student with the unusual name of Bo
Guagua is registered as a student at Columbia Law School.
“I learned... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 5 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 老美反烙印IT的运动上了YAHOO
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 8 09:46:41 2014, 美东)
6000 评论也请看看。 民愤很大。
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign
我们不要让老美孤军奋斗,
要推波助澜,联合共抗,
帮把这些新闻传遍硅谷。
不管成败,把烙印搞的臭大街,
以后就好办了。
请多在老美朋友中发这种英文文章。
为了政治正确,可以加一句”wow,
is this for real? "
更狠的可以说:“is this the same Infosys
we contract out in our company?" Amazon,
Microsoft, US government, 很多都是infosys
customer. 还有别的大的ICC,像cognizant,
accen... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******n 发帖数: 832 | 6 ssr's dumplings are the best~
ssr, I vote for you, please make dumplings for us as bribery! |
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s*6 发帖数: 3972 | 7 http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/world-s-worst-airport-terminals.h
Most airports are awful. At best they’re joyless econoboxes, at worst
purgatorial warehouses of stalled lives.
Some airports deserve special condemnation, though. In some cases, they
deserve to be literally condemned. Assembling this top 10 list of misfits I
scanned professional surveys and delay statistics and asked my frequent-
traveler friends to come up with the 10 airports where you'd least like to
spend an extra hour.
I'm stic... 阅读全帖 |
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r****a 发帖数: 3249 | 8 http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2014/05/07/many-h4-visa-hol
RKsharma2012 • 16 days ago
For last few days I am reading in media, that US authorities may
consider option of giving EAD to spouses of H1Bs. I want to bring few
points to your notice from an insider perspective.
1.I will say adding more EAD/H1Bs are not going to benefit US economy
unless senior authorities in US fix some underlying Issues.
2.US
IT industry is controlled by Indians from only two states in India,
Tamil Naidu an... 阅读全帖 |
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n*******y 发帖数: 3337 | 9 TOMS RIVER — FBI agents arrived at the home this morning of Toms River
Regional School District Superintendent Michael J. Ritacco in an attempt to
arrest him on political corruption charges.
The agents entered Ritacco's house in Seaside Park and searched it room by
room, setting off a security alarm. But the longtime head of the fourth
largest school district in the state was apparently not home. The agents
quickly left, stopping briefly at the school district offices in Toms River.
His arrest w... 阅读全帖 |
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a*o 发帖数: 25262 | 10 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/fashion/wendi-murdoch-is-crea
Declaration of Independence
By AMY CHOZICK
LAST January, Amy Chua got an unexpected e-mail just before an excerpt from
her provocative child-rearing manual, “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother,”
appeared in The Wall Street Journal. It was from Wendi Murdoch, the wife of
Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corporation owns The Journal.
“She wanted her daughters to come to New Haven and meet my daughters,” Ms.
Chua said in a phone interview. Like... 阅读全帖 |
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C***Y 发帖数: 1323 | 11
刚学过ibm的家规课,Anti-Bribery ,美国financial institute这样做不怕美国国家
的法规判罚受贿行贿吗?要不就是华人开的小公司借虎皮牟利,和国内的官僚拉拉扯扯。 |
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j****y 发帖数: 1714 | 12 http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/21/us/new-york-researchers-charged/i
New York (CNN) -- Three university researchers working on medical technology
are facing federal charges -- and up to 20 years in prison if convicted --
for allegedly taking Chinese money for their U.S.-funded research, according
to federal authorities.
Their research was partially funded by a multimillion dollar National
Institutes of Health grant, according to a criminal complaint.
The three -- Yudong Zhu, 44 of Scarsdale, and Xing... 阅读全帖 |
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m***o 发帖数: 1367 | 13 不要妄想联合老美,他们反对H-1B,这不符合老中利益。
双赢的话应该先说美国需要skilled technical workers,但是现在的H1-B机制存在太
多的corruption和unfairness。
1。ICC几乎垄断H1B签证。
2。造假,利益输送,bribery,corruption。
3。hiring favors 老印,promotion favors 老印。
这种情况既伤害本土美国人也伤害别的H1-B worker的利益。应该找一些poster child
case,老美的,老中的,东欧的,大家都去告ICC和被他们收买的保护伞。争取修好H1B
机制符合出老印之外所有人的利益。 |
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 14 你等于是同意我的看法(如果用脑子想想)
美式民主,不过是把 bribery 合法化变成 lobby, 政治捐献
有脑的人想想
中国贪官,有经济层面的个人需求,拿黑钱,奢侈腐败。
美国的官, 多半已经是富人了,不需要钱,
但是有权力欲望的需求,拿漂白的钱,竞选成功(民主选举很花钱的)
然后他可以对人民,对企业,在议题指手画脚
享受权力带来的美好感觉
只要拿了钱,为了私人利益,不为人民服务
不管什么包装,就是贪污
注意,这是美式民主
欧洲的民主对政治捐款有较高的限制 |
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a******o 发帖数: 16625 | 15 你已经逻辑混乱了。中国贪官是因为穷,美国官不贪是一位内富有?当官是因为美好感
觉?
在美国任何事情都是business,就是生意,政治也是,政治家也是一种职业。政治没有
钱没法运作,但是你收钱办事得罪选民可能下台,所以拿多少钱办多少事情得罪多少选
民,你要掂量,这个就是balance。
当然中国政府也有balance,就是,他们不至于把你饿得造反,剩下的他们都拿走。
你等于是同意我的看法(如果用脑子想想)
美式民主,不过是把 bribery 合法化变成 lobby, 政治捐献
有脑的人想想
中国贪官,有经济层面的个人需求,拿黑钱,奢侈腐败。
美国的官, 多半已经是富人了,不需要钱,
但是有权力欲望的需求,拿漂白的钱,竞选成功(民主选举很花钱的)
然后他可以对人民,对企业,在议题指手画脚
享受权力带来的美好感觉
只要拿了钱,为了私人利益,不为人民服务
不管什么包装,就是贪污
注意,这是美式民主
欧洲的民主对政治捐款有较高的限制 |
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G****s 发帖数: 3523 | 16 only 60M. apple probably paid a lot of bribery to the key people in this
case to get this ruling. you all know how it works. |
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s*******e 发帖数: 4188 | 17 This is quite like American style corruption. Personal wealth is gained
through connections and exchange of favor instead of outright bribery. |
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j****y 发帖数: 1714 | 18 【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: joyjoy (joy), 信区: NewYork
标 题: Feds: 3 scientists conspired to take Chinese bribes for their U.S. research
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 22 11:31:47 2013, 美东)
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/21/us/new-york-researchers-charged/i
New York (CNN) -- Three university researchers working on medical technology
are facing federal charges -- and up to 20 years in prison if convicted --
for allegedly taking Chinese money for their U.S.-funded research, according
to federal authorities.
... 阅读全帖 |
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g*q 发帖数: 26623 | 19 现参议员Ron卡尔德龙及其兄弟前议员Tom卡尔德龙,因受贿,洗钱,骗取退税,骗取医保付
款等多项罪名被捕,罪名成立将被判400和160年.
California Sen. Ron Calderon and brother, Tom Calderon, were indicted on
public corruption charges Friday stemming from an investigation that
ensnared other members of his powerful political family.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced the charges at a press conference in
Los Angeles following a lengthy investigation into a massive healthcare
fraud scheme and bribes to expand film tax credits.
Ron Calderon has agreed to surren... 阅读全帖 |
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k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 20 Former San Francisco Supervisor Ed Jew, who left office under a cloud of
corruption and served nearly five years in federal prison for extortion and
bribery, will not escape a state sentence, after a San Francisco judge
rejected his request to avoid a year in county jail.
Jew's lawyers argued that he had paid for his crimes by serving 4 1/2 years
in prison camps in Arizona and California, as well as six months in a Los
Angeles jail, on federal extortion charges.
They said he should be given time... 阅读全帖 |
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 22 共和党多的是亿万富翁为富人利益说话,谁理你individuals?
那个Koch brother 不是就是个例子?
富人用钱买影响力,实际上是合法贪污,美国慢慢比土共还不如,土共还是明的反贪腐
有人说 if money is speech,then bribery is institution
精彩! |
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 23 If money is speech, bribery is institution.
美国正式走上罗马帝国衰败的道路 |
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l******l 发帖数: 2651 | 24 在这叫lobby。
O8收钱时一点不手软。你快去跟他讲,这是bribery. |
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r****n 发帖数: 179 | 25 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: oba (欧巴), 信区: Military
标 题: 看到一个阿三揭露老印们如何整烂美国
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 27 11:33:15 2014, 美东)
有黑幕三帮忙美帝三十年内将不攻自破。可惜自恨的职场国人还不觉醒。
http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2014/05/07/many-h4-visa-hol
RKsharma2012 • 16 days ago
For last few days I am reading in media, that US authorities may
consider option of giving EAD to spouses of H1Bs. I want to bring few
points to your notice from an insider perspective.
1.I will say adding more EAD/H1Bs are not going to benefit US... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 26 We need to learn politically:
be respectful, even to people
who disagree with you. Some
basic EQ skills are sorely lacking
in Chinese-American nerds.
http://www.mitbbs.com/clubarticle_t2/ITRelief/31108509.html
But the other tricks of snake-oil
salesmen, we should stay away from:
lying, nepotism, bribery, fraud, stealing credits,
covert manipulation and ganging up on
nerds to squeeze them out.
Sooner or later they will be caught.
Universal truth is: nobody enjoys being deceived
and robbed. |
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s*******h 发帖数: 3219 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: umutata (土著人), 信区: Military
标 题: 此文一出,“老印团结”的神话瞬间破灭了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 27 12:40:44 2014, 美东)
我来个摘要:
印度人之间由于语言宗教不同,派系复杂,歧视严重。美国IT业都被印度东南部两个邦
的人把持,只招自己人,不招外种族的人,甚至连其他地域族群的印度人也不招。让这
些人把持IT业,不但是白人,黑人,华人等所有族裔的灾难,也是绝大多数印度人(他
们那个特定小圈子的人除外)的灾难。
在这些印度人小圈子“团结”的表象背后,是各种肮脏的内幕。老印高管剥削下级印度
人,任意奴役侮辱,下级为了保住他们的工作,常常要向上级行贿。他们还开设很多咨
询公司(应该是ICC之流),滥用H1B名额,剥削压榨印度人。
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发信人: oba (欧巴), 信区: Military
标 题: 看到一个阿三揭露老印们如何整烂美国
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 27... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 28 6000 评论也请看看。 民愤很大。
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign
我们不要让老美孤军奋斗,
要推波助澜,联合共抗,
帮把这些新闻传遍硅谷。
不管成败,把烙印搞的臭大街,
以后就好办了。
请多在老美朋友中发这种英文文章。
为了政治正确,可以加一句”wow,
is this for real? "
更狠的可以说:“is this the same Infosys
we contract out in our company?" Amazon,
Microsoft, US government, 很多都是infosys
customer.
更狠的可以说:”I'm sure XXX is much better
than this and wouldn't need a phone-interview-double"
XXX should be a well-known clueless outsourcer 烙印大头。
更狠的可以说:”isn't this Hyderabad place ... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 29 应该是杀人如麻遭报应.
上网查"Clinton Body Count", 在死亡名单上的有50几人啊! 为了上位, 希拉拉今年在
被提名为主党总统候选人前加速铲除异己, DNC人员就死了莫名其妙死了好几个.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr
. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim
Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42
– Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 –
Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
On August 1, 2016, Victor Thorn (Scott Makufka), a well... 阅读全帖 |
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r********k 发帖数: 258 | 30 money in china of yours is undocumented to US IRS. It could be your income
without paying income tax to US or China. It could be bribery money in China
. If someone takes Yuan and give your dollars in US, this person turns your
money from undocumented into documented. You wash the money clean now, doesn
't matter if your Yuan is actually dirty or not.
If you go through the banks, China side would check your money is your legal
income first, and vet your money clean, then US bank takes that vetti... 阅读全帖 |
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w****n 发帖数: 8 | 31 对了, 他们是一伙的, 要奴役我们.那家伙很可能就是manager的什么人.我知道他们也
看MITBBS的.今天就给你们上一课.
俗话说得好, '无知所以无畏'. 不知道在美国受下属$20以上礼物算受贿吧?搜索一下'
bribery'
那赃官向下属们无耻索贿的罪恶行径, babiesrus 帐号里铁证如山 (gift
registration)
其他罪证留着法庭上给他们当作惊喜..... |
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r****n 发帖数: 179 | 32 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: oba (欧巴), 信区: Military
标 题: 看到一个阿三揭露老印们如何整烂美国
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 27 11:33:15 2014, 美东)
有黑幕三帮忙美帝三十年内将不攻自破。可惜自恨的职场国人还不觉醒。
http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2014/05/07/many-h4-visa-hol
RKsharma2012 • 16 days ago
For last few days I am reading in media, that US authorities may
consider option of giving EAD to spouses of H1Bs. I want to bring few
points to your notice from an insider perspective.
1.I will say adding more EAD/H1Bs are not going to benefit US... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 33 应该是杀人如麻遭报应.
上网查"Clinton Body Count", 在死亡名单上的有50几人啊! 为了上位, 希拉拉今年在
被提名为主党总统候选人前加速铲除异己, DNC人员就死了莫名其妙死了好几个.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr
. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim
Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42
– Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 –
Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
On August 1, 2016, Victor Thorn (Scott Makufka), a well... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 34 应该是杀人如麻遭报应.
上网查"Clinton Body Count", 在死亡名单上的有50几人啊! 为了上位, 希拉拉今年在
被提名为主党总统候选人前加速铲除异己, DNC人员就死了莫名其妙死了好几个.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr
. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim
Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42
– Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 –
Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
On August 1, 2016, Victor Thorn (Scott Makufka), a well... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 35 应该是杀人如麻遭报应.
上网查"Clinton Body Count", 在死亡名单上的有50几人啊! 为了上位, 希拉拉今年在
被提名为主党总统候选人前加速铲除异己, DNC人员就死了莫名其妙死了好几个.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr
. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim
Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42
– Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 –
Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
On August 1, 2016, Victor Thorn (Scott Makufka), a well... 阅读全帖 |
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I*D 发帖数: 40035 | 36 public trust is not a level of security clearance...
The concept of the public trust relates back to the origins of democratic
government and its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power
and future of a society; therefore, whatever trust the public places in its
officials must be respected.
One of the reasons that bribery is regarded as a notorious evil is that it
contributes to a culture of political corruption in which the public trust
is eroded. Other issues related to politica... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h 发帖数: 7021 | 37 应该是杀人如麻遭报应.
上网查"Clinton Body Count", 在死亡名单上的有50几人啊! 为了上位, 希拉拉今年在
被提名为主党总统候选人前加速铲除异己, DNC人员就死了莫名其妙死了好几个.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr
. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim
Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42
– Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 –
Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
On August 1, 2016, Victor Thorn (Scott Makufka), a well... 阅读全帖 |
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F*V 发帖数: 3978 | 38 大棋局与9/11
来源: ognc 于 2013-02-22 16:08:44[档案] [博客] [旧帖] [转至博客] [给我悄悄
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The Moral Decoding of 9-11
By Prof. John McMurtry
(Journal of 9/11 Studies) - I was sceptical of the 9-11 event from the first
time I saw it on television. It was on every major network within minutes.
All the guilty parties were declared before any evidence was shown. The
first questions of any criminal investigation were erased. Who had the most
compelling motives for... 阅读全帖 |
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A*****a 发帖数: 52743 | 40 解释过了,因为所有的bribery都是在美国境内通过美国银行完成的,所以美国有权插
手。
私下原因就不用解释了,大家都明白
美国是无利不起早的 |
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N****w 发帖数: 21578 | 43 no 球员投入了一辈子
they just 投入 small half 辈子 at most.
anything causes betting,bribery is not 理解和感情 |
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K****p 发帖数: 169 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: umner (jhq), 信区: Military
标 题: 【Economist】Why China fails at football
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 26 17:48:32 2011, 美东)
http://www.economist.com/node/21541716
Why China fails at football
Little red card
The telling reasons why, at least in football, China is unlikely to rule the
world in the near future
Dec 17th 2011 | from the print edition
THE pass back to the goalkeeper seemed routine for Qingdao Hailifeng FC in
its match against Sichuan FC in September 2009, even i... 阅读全帖 |
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d********f 发帖数: 43471 | 46 In 2003 the English newspaper The Times published an article by writer Brian
Glanville in that Gyorgy Vadas Hungarian referee's confession on a
corruption attempt by the club's president, Angelo Moratti, before the
second leg of the semi-finals of the 1965-66 European Cup against Madrid CF.
Glanville, who also reported similar cases of match-fixing in which were
involved some club's officers in the two previous editions of the tournament
, in addition, has signed, according to a series called Th... 阅读全帖 |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 47 不过这也是欠发达地区的常态。 wmt也刚trap in bribery了。 |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 48 这算比较纯朴的了, 而且是小事情。
国内很多托人关系办事的, 老关系是事成给钱。
新关系能递上去就不错了, 能办成就办, 办不成就算投石问路铺垫关系了。
其实现在国内不太流行一手钱一手货的bribery形式了, 风险效益太低。
现在国内随便拉个关系搞个项目都是几十个M起了。
也就是升学, 政府部门公务员职位什么的鸡毛蒜皮的还来这一套。 |
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e*******e 发帖数: 9616 | 49 中国足球落后的原因
法制的落实不坚决,裁判的安全得不到保障(美国的教练/referee/umpire都有现役警
察护送的,不管是
采访还是退场)。同样的挑衅,中国的劝解/道歉,美国是至少battery,挥一拳就算的
,马上送jail,谁敢乱来?
好了,裁判的安全得不到保障,就有聪明人程序而入了。bribery啥的就来了, 不听话
就看警察能怎么保护你?不要跟我说陆峻啥的没被人威胁过,中国社会就是这种原始生
态,谁有弱点人家马上就给利用起来。
有贿赂,就有操纵比赛的空间和手腕儿,就有足协官员/老板/赌钱庄稼的抽插,最后
各取所需。
所以说,法制建设和execute才是真正重要的东西,不然大家都可以不按照游戏规则行
事,最后爽了自己,毁了大系统。美国5-60年代还是great recession后改法律的
时候可是大规模建了很多的新监狱,就是知道法律一变严肯定有大量的人收监。到现在
,犯罪树木终于稳定了下来,监狱太多了,又想改为他用了。中国也必须遮掩办。才能
保证系统有良性的循环,多些从正面提高技术水平来赢得比赛的孩子,中国足球才有希
望。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 50 In the light of recent events, it is our prerogative (being the first
organized supporters group in Europe) to tackle the source of misbehaving of
Croatian fans, during the last match of the European Championship. Do not
be mistaken, they are CROATIAN FANS, maybe more so than those who accuse
them today. Croatian fans live their emotions and consider the national team
to be sacred, but are at the same time ready to hurt their teams’ chances
for progress in search of international help. Clutching... 阅读全帖 |
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