w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 1 $3.14 / box , free ammo can, free shipping.
Link:
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-2973-federal-premium-12-gauge-2-34-00-
buckshot-9-pellets-wammo-can-ammunition.aspx
Product Specifications
Manufacturer Federal Ammunition
Model 175 Law Enforcement Buckshot
Caliber 12 gauge
Caliber 12 Gauge 2-3/4"
Pellets
9 Pellets
Ounce of Shot Packed inside a Ammo Can
Type 00 Buckshot
Units per Box 25 Per Box/7 boxes per can
Units per Case 175 Per Ammo Can
Manufacturer Part # XM12700AC
Details
Bulk... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****8 发帖数: 292 | 2 is this a good deal?
On Sale For: $109.95
25 Per Box, 175 round
Bulk 12-Gauge Federal buckshot loaded to law-enforcement specifications with nine pellets of 00 buckshot in a 2-3/4" shell. Stock up now on this great value. Includes new mil-spec metal ammo can ($20 value.) 175 rounds. .
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-2973-federal-premium-12-gauge-2-34-00-
buckshot-9-pellets-wammo-can-ammunition.aspx |
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 3 前面hetzer贴的链接,感觉回答部分那个shotgun装弹顺序有些价值,原文转过来
链接地址见下: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080606011053AAMQN07
No 4 buckshot for home defense?
Okay my dads shot of choice for home defense is no 4 buckshot with high
brass.He says he chose it over oob because of the much higher ammount of
shot wich makes it 1 larger shot patterns 2 just as lethal due to the higher
ammount of pellets.Now ive been doing some reserch and some people are syin
that it cant be used for self defense due to the lack |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 4 还可以。
Cabela's有Estate 00/04 buckshot $12.99/25发
ammunitiontogo上有Fiocchi Reduced Recoil Nickel Plated 00 Buckshot $107.95/
250发 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 5 Through 11/16 Cabelas has a link on the front page of thier site to get $30
off of $150 purchase. There are several ways that this can be applied to
ammo and I saw another thread about a good deal on .223 using the coupon
they send you.
I found that if you purchased a quantity of 31 boxes of Sellier and Bellot
00 Buckshot ammo at $4.99 a box and used the coupon it worked out to be 46
cents a round shipped.
Here is the link to the ammo:
Link:
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j*******e 发帖数: 4663 | 6 如果是1块,为什么护家可以用Buckshot+shotgun? |
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f****a 发帖数: 4708 | 7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell#Buckshot
Size Nominal diameter Pellets/oz
0000 .38" (9.7 mm) 5
000 .36" (9.1 mm) 6
00 .33" (8.4 mm) 8
0 .32" (8.1 mm) 9
1 .30" (7.6 mm) 10
2 .27" (6.9 mm) 15
3 .25" (6.4 mm) 18
4 .24" (6 mm) 21
I use #4 for HD. |
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 9 刚讨论过
http://www.chuckhawks.com/home_defense_shotgun_ammo.htm
"Number 1 buck is the smallest diameter shot that reliably and consistently
penetrates more than 12 inches of standard ordnance gelatin when fired at
typical shotgun engagement distances. A standard 2 -inch 12 gauge shotshell
contains 16 pellets of #1 buck. The total combined cross sectional area of
the 16 pellets is 1.13 square inches. Compared to the total combined cross
sectional area of the nine pellets in a standard #00 (double-au... 阅读全帖 |
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 10 哥几个别忘了先从plasticjungle 买12% off gift card。。。
研究了一下,房子里镇宅还是#4 buckshot比较好,最后买了三盒#4,五盒#00 |
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 11 这个Fiocchi Reduced Recoil Buckshot看似不错呀。
有reduced recoil slug推荐吗? |
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a*******d 发帖数: 4846 | 12 我就知道reeds能打,我现在去的range只能打birdshot,不让打buckshot. |
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q********1 发帖数: 1480 | 13 用SuperVinci打了20发三寸半的00BK,Full Choke。 后坐比我想象的要小很多。用鸟
枪在室内打固定靶有些滑稽。可这是为用重弹Break In 新枪。当地的Shotgun Range
禁用7号半以上的Shell。室内靶场又只能用00BK或Slug。 以前从没打过三寸半的
Buckshot。 三十码的距离,基本三枪靶纸就烂了 (我用的是纸盘)。其中有一次整张
盘子被打飞。
打的时候不觉得什么。打完后肩膀有点发酸。再打9MM MK25, 手是抖的。成绩大失水
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q********1 发帖数: 1480 | 14 Thanks for the input, dude.
I 've been shooting pis for years and shotgun for a longer time. The Sig is
my newest handgun and I 've put over 3000 rounds through it. So "第一次紧
张" does not apply.
Try to shoot 3.5 inch buckshot or slug, they will make your hands shaken. |
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F*****t 发帖数: 1138 | 15 上周订的配件和#1 buckshot 都到了。拍照留念。学习版上兄弟的经验,换了个短的
Hogue overrubber forend,装了6 shot的tacstar sidesaddle。感觉rubber forend
比原配的要舒服。不过pardner forend 比870 的要大一点,换forend时要用力敲进去
,估计没有工具是拔不出来了。 |
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 17 轰的一下靶纸下半截就撕下来了
珍惜靶纸,没有再打第二发
这玩意完美的妥协了OO buckshot的穿透力,和鸟弹的气场。。。 |
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B**I 发帖数: 601 | 18 市场上用于 self-defence 的 20 Ga buckshot 好像很少, 一向是这样的吗? 还是就最
进. |
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B**I 发帖数: 601 | 19 市场上用于 self-defence 的 20 Ga buckshot 好像很少, 一向是这样的吗? 还是就最
进. |
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 21 比较了一下满弹匣的重量
参赛选手一:9mm mec-gar弹匣,加上塑料的"Plus 2",装满17发124gr子弹,重量305克
平均到每发是 17.9克,动能 410 ft-lbs
参赛选手二:D&H铝弹匣,装满30发62gr 5.56x45子弹,重量475克
平均到每发是 15.8克,动能 1230 ft-lbs
9mm比AR弹药重13%,但AR每发的威力还是9mm的3倍,AR后座力低,女人都能轻松
使用,还更不容易穿墙!
但是还是有威力忧虑症,所以又称了称这个,虽然没有弹匣,可以放心的睡觉了。。。。
参赛选手三:12GA #1 buckshot,没有弹匣,每发52克,动能2220 ft-lbs
响应副总统号召,GET A SHOTGUN! |
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e***s 发帖数: 1397 | 24 Summary: Best choice is 12GA pump shotgun, loaded with #1 buckshot.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm
Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition
(Tactical Briefs #10, October 1998)
For home defense, a shotgun is superior to a handgun in terms of being able
to stop a violent intruder as quickly as possible. A reliable, well-made,
pump-action shotgun can usually be purchased for less than the cost of a
handgun of comparable quality. Also, inexpensive birdshot ammunition,
typically used for trainin... 阅读全帖 |
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t******y 发帖数: 5040 | 25 为啥非要用00BK呢?我在我值班的12号墨斯伯格500里面装填的3英寸的000BK, 里面有10颗铅弹。但是那个后坐力太大,这样每枪之间的间隔大了。我现在正自己反思要用2.75英寸的弹,弱一点装药的,这样可以打的比较快一些。
我也用过BB鸟弹,近距离内一枪就把一头一百三十磅左右的野猪给打死了。
所以,20号的#2,#3鹿弹我是一点不担心能不能打死人的。
20 Gauge:
Recommended Cartridges:
Federal "Classic" 3-inch #2 buckshot 18 pellets
Winchester "Double XX" 3-inch #3 buckshot 24 pellets
Remington 2-3/4-inch #3 buckshot 20 pellets
The 20 gauge is an excellent caliber for self defense. It is particularly well suited to those of smaller... 阅读全帖 |
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 26 没搞明白:
“
Q: Can I shoot slugs or buckshot through a "smoothbore" field barrel with
Accu-choke tubes? (500/9200/88/695 models)
A: Yes, and with Sabots or rifled slugs, the more 'open' the choke tube, the
better the accuracy ("Improved Cylinder" recommended). The "Full" or "
Modified" choke tubes are preferred for buckshot loads. Slugs, buckshot and
steel shot loads are not recommended for use with an Extra Full "Turkey tube
" installed, due to the tube's tight constriction. Do not fire any load
wi |
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l**p 发帖数: 173 | 27 很多人都推荐00 buckshot, 但有人也推荐birdshot。 后者的理由是birdshot的散布
面积更大,Home defense的交火
距离都很近,buckshot在这个距离上的散布太小。
如果一发buckshot,一发birdshot,交替装弹,怎么样? |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 28 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 爱的代价 treestand, 25 feet in the crispy autumn air.
at sunrise, called in the 9 pointer. Slug shot(rifled slug + smooth bore +
cantilever mount+ reddot) buckshot follow up shots, down.
at 8 oclock, 2 does sneaked up on me from behind. Too difficult for me to
move and take the shot, spooked them, ran away.
10 minutes later, the 8 pointer chased the doe to my tree. I shot the buck
with buckshot, 40 yards, immediate down on the track. The doe ran 30 yards,
now at 30 yards, even closer to me than the buck... 阅读全帖 |
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R****y 发帖数: 411 | 30
00 buckshots and slugs may over penetrate and go thru the walls and hit
innocent bystanders, at least thats what I read. I have #4 buckshots x 3
rounds and followed by 00 buckshot x 1 rd and slug x 1rd. I figure if I can'
t neutralize the threat with the first three shots, I can care less about
over penetration. |
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T***N 发帖数: 1835 | 31 20GA的子弹有的比较好买,比如打飞碟的,还有slug都比较容易买到。
子弹荒的时候比较难买的是20ga的buckshot,现在也容易买到了,比如便宜的入这个:
20 Gauge Rio Royal Buckshot 2-3/4" 9 Pellet #1 Buckshot - 250 Rounds |
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a**6 发帖数: 106 | 32
From what I have read so far, there are many wrong perceptions about the
shotgun shell penetration and pattern posted here.
First, it needs penetration. The projectile needs to penetrate no less than
12" to reach bad guy's major vital and central nerve system effectively
disabling the bad guy immediately. FBI and ammo manufactures had spent
millions of dollar on researches and testing to come up with the effective
12"-18" penetration guideline. SemperFortis has provided a very useful
penetrati... 阅读全帖 |
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j****y 发帖数: 1714 | 33 把自己的老贴加点新东西.
1. 买枪。
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Mossberg Combo $309 @ big 5.
第一天晚上去买被据。
big 5 店小二不看绿卡,要求出示任何州颁发的hunting license 或者 attorney
general 的什么letter.
添的表格有个tricky问题,问如果你非移民签证入的美国,是不是 fall in the
exceptions defined in instructions. 我大概读了 exception,基本是外交官,执法
人员之类。所以回答了no.
店小儿说选了 yes 需要hunting license. 选了 no 需要 attorney general letter.
我没有这些东西,白跑一趟。
回家后下载网上表格仔细研究。
DOJ firm: Firearm transaction record Over the Counter .
http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf
Qu... 阅读全帖 |
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m*h 发帖数: 850 | 35 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
akula (大鲨鱼 / 达不溜博士) 于 (Wed Feb 5 00:30:44 2014, 美东) 提到:
最近很多朋友觉得需要买枪自卫,纷纷询问怎么买枪,该买什么枪的问题。作为一个拥
枪多年的休斯顿老枪友,我就写点东西吧,不指望包罗万象,只为目前应急之需。
先要声明一下,本人只是普通枪友,并非专家权威,所说仅是一家之言。而且本人既非
律师也非法官,也不是ATF的工作人员,一句话,本人不是法律权威,所说的关于法律
问题都是出自个人理解,未必都正确。凡是不确定的法律问题,请咨询相关律师或者
ATF。
另外,美国各个州法律不同,州内各个城市法律也不完全一样。本文针对的是德州休斯
敦地区。应该也适合德州大部分地区,但是具体问题要咨询当地律师或者ATF。至于德
州以外的,可能法律千差万别,请参照当地法律,切勿无意中违法。
再者,声明本文只是为想买枪自卫而对枪一无所知的朋友写的,关于枪和买枪的基本常
识。既然本文是为想买枪自卫的朋友所写,所以假设本文读者是愿意拥枪自卫的,所以
本文不讨论关于该拥枪还是... 阅读全帖 |
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m*h 发帖数: 850 | 36 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
akula (大鲨鱼 / 达不溜博士) 于 (Wed Feb 5 00:30:44 2014, 美东) 提到:
最近很多朋友觉得需要买枪自卫,纷纷询问怎么买枪,该买什么枪的问题。作为一个拥
枪多年的休斯顿老枪友,我就写点东西吧,不指望包罗万象,只为目前应急之需。
先要声明一下,本人只是普通枪友,并非专家权威,所说仅是一家之言。而且本人既非
律师也非法官,也不是ATF的工作人员,一句话,本人不是法律权威,所说的关于法律
问题都是出自个人理解,未必都正确。凡是不确定的法律问题,请咨询相关律师或者
ATF。
另外,美国各个州法律不同,州内各个城市法律也不完全一样。本文针对的是德州休斯
敦地区。应该也适合德州大部分地区,但是具体问题要咨询当地律师或者ATF。至于德
州以外的,可能法律千差万别,请参照当地法律,切勿无意中违法。
再者,声明本文只是为想买枪自卫而对枪一无所知的朋友写的,关于枪和买枪的基本常
识。既然本文是为想买枪自卫的朋友所写,所以假设本文读者是愿意拥枪自卫的,所以
本文不讨论关于该拥枪还是... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****o 发帖数: 550 | 37
恩,Buckshot, 护家用buckshot应该够了,birdshot 太多了。。。 |
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t******y 发帖数: 5040 | 38 俺以前都是照抄教科书,买了12号的短管的枪,配00 BUCKSHOT。
现在我想换成000 BUCKSHOT了。
可惜,枪没法换成20号的。 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 39 不管bird shot还是buckshot,在homedefense range散步是一样的,<5m的距离。
基本碗口大一个面积,还是要很准才能打中的,可不是电影上那样一枪过去,门碎了半
边。
00buckshot是怕有时距离远了点的时候,太散,漏了打不中。并不是每个人都全身露给
你打的,要是在室内玩巷战,当然是buckshot No4好用,人家只探个头。 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 40 存速啊,穿深啊,空腔啊。
1盎司的bird shot是1盎司bird shot, 1盎司的#00 buck是9发.32 ACP同时命中的水平。
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3_2.htm
”The problem with birdshot is that it does not penetrate enough to be
effective as a defense round. Birdshot is designed to bring down little
birds.
A policeman told of seeing a guy shot at close range with a load of 12
gauge
birdshot, and was not even knocked down. He was still walking around
when
the EMTs got there. It was an ugly, shallow wound, but did not STOP the
guy.
And tha... 阅读全帖 |
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 41 2-3/4 slug,Federal出的,海军这样的老枪油打过都说后座大。kick like a mule,我是没本事follow up shot。
买了两百发buckshot还没打过,还得屯店减威力的,现在有点明白为啥警方用减威力buckshot考核成绩好些,连续打差别挺大的 |
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t******y 发帖数: 5040 | 42
想用870一类的霰弹枪打野猪,得看你有没有办法把野猪诱到50码的范围之内,若是能成,你就有希望了。进了这个距离,你可以用独头弹,也可以用鹿弹。
在美国是因为有太多的选择,德州又不限制用来复枪,所以我们多用来复枪(步枪)打野猪。
像美国东北部的一些州,因为地方小,人口稠密,只能用霰弹枪打猎,人家用霰弹枪也是能玩的很尽兴的,上能打鸟,下能打鹿。
国内打猎的,也是以霰弹枪为主。他们用“九子鹿弹”,相当于美国这边12号#00
BUCKSHOT,打野猪。据打猎的人说,最远可以打到75米。
我自己就曾经用打鸭子大雁的鸟弹打死过一头130磅左右的野猪。那次我连一发
BUCKSHOT鹿弹都没有,手里只有打大鸭子的2号弹还有打雪雁的BB鸟弹,就这样,也把野猪给放倒了。 |
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f********4 发帖数: 955 | 43 对,15pellets #00 buckshot,3" walmart有售。价钱便宜量又足,居家打猎必备弹药
。我们这儿基本上只能用shotgun with buckshot打猎,这种弹很好使。 |
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 44 骨灰霰弹看家还不错,一枪下去烟雾缭绕,大家都呛一鼻子灰。
这骨灰粉不比专门打铰链的铁粉霰弹,没啥杀伤力,估计还不如rock salt buckshot。
对方带防毒面具就糟了,不过第一发骨灰弹,接下去00 buckshot就差不多了。 |
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 45 不怕大家笑话,就来支20号的霰弹枪,同样的buckshot,20号弹丸量大概是12号的3/4
,但后坐只有12号的一半多些。buckshot选对了,20号霰弹枪看家足够威武。 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 46 那就拿一张8X10的纸,在靶场看看75 yard, buckshot怎么能在上面中三个眼。说能捉
摸出这么一套buckshot和choke,谁就发大财了 |
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d***8 发帖数: 2039 | 47 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 第一次打枪 从来没打过枪。
在Walmart买了Remington 870,短管。
买了Target loads #9,和 00 buckshot。买了年费是50 USD的club Membership。
今天第一次去club。想找一个人教我。
很多人在射手枪和步枪。我就坐在后面看。
Mike过来打招呼,说你用我旁边的空位好了。我说我要打shotgun太吵了,怕影响大家
。Mike有四十几年的Membership(那时候的年费才5USD一年)了。我说Mike你教我好不
好。Mike很热情说好啊,好啊。
Mike找了两块硬纸板,到靶场的另一头(没别人)。40 yard 的靶位。Mike把Barrel拆
下来,检查里面的情况(因为是新枪)。
Mike先式第一枪
我再来。Target loads kick 还行。都打在硬纸板上了。
Mike把一个plastic duck放在靶心。
我打00 buck,第一枪就把塑料duck小元盘打下(40 yards)。
又再打了4枪 00 buckshot。kick还是挺大的。
完了,跟Mike说声谢谢,给啦他20块小费。Mike挺高兴。
今天做的几件事。
1.第一次... 阅读全帖 |
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f********4 发帖数: 955 | 48 shotgun只要能用slug打猎也够用了。100yard以内精度没问题,威力还大。我们这儿
management hunt 也只能用shotgun. 只要不是只能用buckshot就好。buckshot只能打
个50yard |
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f********4 发帖数: 955 | 49 shotgun只要能用slug打猎也够用了。100yard以内精度没问题,威力还大。我们这儿
management hunt 也只能用shotgun. 只要不是只能用buckshot就好。buckshot只能打
个50yard |
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f*******r 发帖数: 5301 | 50 五发.38,如果是FMJ,加起来只是半发OO buckshot的威力
如果是六发OO buckshot打中五发,就没这问题了 |
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