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发帖数: 1223 | 2 Bolt has a warm heart too. He donated 50K to the earthquake victims in
Sichuan, China.
Bolt wins Chinese hearts, donates USD 50,000 for quake victims
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Story...r+quake+victims
What about Michael Phelps? Probably
he never thought about this.
Buffett made a lot money out of PetroChina( PTR). How much did Buffett
donate to earthquake victims?! Not a dime. |
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l*w
发帖数: 3758 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: biguy (Goodman), 信区: Military
标 题: BYD的王传福牛大发了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 14 22:39:31 2009)
Warren Buffett takes charge
http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/13/technology/gunther_electric.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2009041309
Warren Buffett hasn't just seen the car of the future, he's sitting in the
driver's seat. Why he's banking on an obscure Chinese electric car company
and a CEO who - no joke - drinks his own battery fluid.
By Marc Gunther
Last Updated: April 13, 2009: |
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p*******s
发帖数: 1613 | 4 You are being ridiculously stubborn.
The government HAD to bail out those shaky banks and companies, while
Buffett simply benefited from it through his investment. What is he supposed
to do, the profit comes from taxpayers, I refuse to accept it??
Aren't we all benefiting from the bailout and therefore a complete financial
meltdown? Many get to keep their jobs etc because of it. Are they all
supposed to say, I don't want this job because my job comes from the bailout
package?
Buffett is just one |
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m***u
发帖数: 110 | 5 首先呢
是buffett不是自助餐
Buffett主要是 capital gains tax吧是15%，他秘书主要是income tax了
当然是秘书高了 |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 6 这还用想吗.
阶级斗争.
嘿嘿.
buffett的秘书都给招去做摆设了.
buffett一手点钱,一手交人... |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 7 I'm really struggling to work out what all the fuss is about over this one.
It seems to me to be much ado about nothing. Breaking news: Mitt Romney is
very rich. He also gave millions and millions of dollars to charity and to
the taxman.
In the early hours of this morning, some 550 pages of Mitt Romney's tax
returns and a 2011 tax summary were released by his campaign. Just after
dawn, there was a long campaign conference call for bleary-eyed reporters in
which an accountant (who sounded exactly... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 Class warfare is a sucker play.
by John Hayward04/17/2012
The Daily Caller tells us that DNC chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL) has
canceled a big-bucks fundraiser she planned with a top Obama 2012
fundraiser, because another of the Democrats’ airheaded narratives is
threatening to blow up in their faces:
Marjorie Rawls Roberts, who has pledged to raise between $100,000 and $200,
000 for Obama’s 2012 campaign, helps her wealthy clients navigate offshore
tax loopholes in the U.S. Virgin Island... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 9 by Jammie
You mean this loser has blown through a billion dollars already? How ironic
he has to go begging for cash to the evil Bank of America. Funny enough,
when he was planning his coronation at Bank of America Stadium he and his
minions refused to use their name.
BofA should have told him to take a hike.
Obama For America took out a $15 million loan from Bank of America last
month, according to the campaign’s October monthly FEC report. The loan was
incurred on September 4 and is due No... 阅读全帖 |
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y***l
发帖数: 1371 | 10 Those “Evil, Rich People” – are Democrats
Bill Gates - DemocratWarren Buffett - Democrat
Larry Ellison - Democrat
From the, “you never hear about that from the media” file – Those “Evil,
Rich People” that Democrats are always wailing about are actually –
Democrats.
In fact, the Top 3 on the list: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett & Larry Ellison
are all Democrats. Together, they are worth $126 Billion Dollars.
An analysis of the Top 20 Richest People in America (from Forbes Top 100)
reveals that a full... 阅读全帖 |
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i**y
发帖数: 1170 | 11 民主党提个法案（Buffett Rule），被共和党否决了
--> 共和党责任，维护富人利益，置国家利益于不顾
共和党提个法案（STEM Rule），被民主党否决了
--> 共和党责任，明知道民主党不可能同意，共和党在作秀
Buffett税率如果比他秘书高，说明他秘书工资不低，至少有150k |
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 12 LOL:
first, his company has been fighting with IRS on tax fraud for years.
second, "Buffett Rule Act" already passed. you can write a check to IRS if
you think you pay too little tax. Now where's the check from Mr.buffett?
Talking is cheap... |
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i**y
发帖数: 1170 | 13 看来你是真不懂capital gain，那就没得讨论了
Buffett在以前的税法也不是39%，即使那个Buffett Rule也不会让他付39% |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 14 没找到Buffet捐给IRS的报道。但是他提出了要match其他人给IRS的捐款。这就很让人
鄙视了。
你自己提出来的，总想着拉垫背的。想多交税就多交税，非要自己得名声，然后让其他
人一块多交。
你想给IRS写支票就写，非要别人先出，自己match，自己得名声。
太虚伪了。
Buffet要是有种把基金会的钱都捐给美国偿还国债，而且不要其他人都跟进。那才是真
的unconditional love。做其它的那都是小动作。
Basically, like any and every good Liberal, Buffett isn’t willing to suffer
alone while matching actions to his rhetoric, so he has to drag others who
don’t have the same beliefs into the mix.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/democrats/warren-buffett-goes-weas |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 15 不可能实现的
MS GOOGLE BOEING不能让他那么干
trump说的问题是真的
其实Buffett一直在说同样的事
buffett的建议是发出口券，中国想出口多少就要进口多少换出口券，老巴是神 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 16 最近和朋友们聊天。发现我的码工，教授朋友们都支持Trump，但是花街朋友都不喜欢
Trump。不明就里。
但是从现象看。Trump其实是个工人。He is a builder。小札，Google这些新贵。发家
时候是工人，之后主要靠资本运营了。Buffett自然是资本家了。靠卖保险，买公司，
滚雪球。小札，Buffett我觉得害好了。
真正吃人不吐骨头的确实花街呀。搞出一堆没人能懂的金融产品。HFT。现在一个健康
公司的盈利，有多少被花街侵吞了。一般股民，喝点汤就不错。更别说公司破产，花街
照样吃香的喝辣的了，股民买单了。
Trump的政策我没读过，是不是对资本家不太有利呀。 |
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 17 BUFFETT投资理念显然不是炒股。
BUFFETT投资股票，很少卖掉的。
都是长期拥有。 |
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D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 18 股票分红呢…股票越多，分红越多哦…
[在 oldguy (老人) 的大作中提到：]
:BUFFETT投资理念显然不是炒股。
:BUFFETT投资股票，很少卖掉的。
:都是长期拥有。 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 19 Buffett不分红呀。
他持股的公司，比如可口可乐，自己要交税的。如果给Buffett分红，应该也是交的。 |
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 20 这就是他所谓的作慈善？呵呵
Clinton Foundation selected Clayton Homes, a construction company owned by
Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, to build temporary shelters in Haiti.
Buffett is an active member of the Clinton Global Initiative who has donated
generously to the Clintons as well as the Clinton Foundation.
Clayton offered to build “hurricane-proof trailers” but what they actually
delivered turned out to be a disaster. The trailers were structurally
unsafe, with high levels of formaldehyde and insulat... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********3
发帖数: 10970 | 21 美国大选辩论起始于共和党候选人林肯和民主党候选人道格拉斯时代，他两只是把自己
的政治理念和见解阐述给在场的记者和国会议员们，记者在写稿子给普通民众看，当时
也只有报纸这一种媒介，很多民众都没见过这两个候选人长什么样子。如果获得选票全
靠怎么说服这些记者朋友来写点自己好的，如何打动国会议员去自己的州帮自己拉票。
40年代共和党威尔基试图和罗斯福辩论，媒体炒得沸沸扬扬，最后罗斯福听到了邀请直
接回绝了，罗斯福说我没必要参加辩论，大家都已经认识我了。
真正享受到电视辩论好处的是jfk，他主要是因为长得帅，民众们，尤其女性选民，看
到了jfk，再看看尼克松那个老脸，直接就made mind了。
现在的选举是由一家叫做commission of pesidential debate的机构在运营，机构成立
于1987年，之后的每届选举这家机构都会组织总统候选人辩论，机构的board member有
哪些呢？两党的主席，巴菲特的儿子howard buffett, 前国防部长盘内塔，时代华纳
ceo主席。今年10月5号，这家机构被federal court和irs调查其非营利机构的合法性，
因为有证据... 阅读全帖 |
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t*c
发帖数: 6929 | 22 不要说资产45亿美元的川普，那么我们来看看资产
700亿美元的巴菲特的税单，这是巴菲特自己公布，
没几天主流媒体集体禁声。
他一年仅仅申报1156万美元收入，其它收入以各种
方式避掉了。巴菲特税单公布头两天在民间引起
轩然大波，他原本是为了反击川普，想不到引起
民间巨大疑问，甚至抨击巴菲特如何跑掉
300亿美元遗产税，主流媒体为此急急禁声。
因为按照巴菲特资产和川普资产比例，用同样避税
方法，川普真的不需要玩什么税。
这就是为什么巴菲特在大选时候动用千人在奥马哈
挨家挨户为希拉里拉票，为她争取一张district electoral
vote，结果奥马哈居民不给面子，希拉里惨败。
Buffett, who is supporting Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton, said he paid $
1,845,557 in federal income tax for 2015 on a gross income of $11,563,931.
Buffett also said he took $5,477,694 in deductions, of... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******h
发帖数: 4091 | 23 我原来有个帖子里说的Buffet的纳税数据有误，这是我重新找来的。
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161010005859/en/Tax-Facts-Donald-Trump#.V_vEHkTPnJo.twitter
October 10, 2016 12:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time
OMAHA, Neb.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Answering a question last night about his $916
million income tax loss carryforward in 1995, Donald Trump stated that “
Warren Buffett took a massive deduction.” Mr. Trump says he knows more
about taxes than any other human. He has not seen my income tax returns. But
I am happy to give h... 阅读全帖 |
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t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 24 这些不动产应该来说是美国的根本， 如果社会稳定的话是非常好的普通人投资手段。
美国白人因为懒或其他原因已经逐渐丧失很大部分控制权。比如出去的小旅馆加油站等
等， 很多印度人开，中国人也有。
那么白人肯定不会高兴看到这个， 他们怎么办？
buffett那么多钱怎么保证钱生钱？技术上美国也不是天赋神权一直领先吧， 被中印欧
超过还是很有可能的。
等美国技术尿了后，美国还有啥？buffett等的钱真能保证就不贬值？！
不到这时候，估计就要开始抢不动产了。
property tax 不让 deduct，
是不是说明美国富人商量好了， 想大规模投资房地产，便宜入点。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 25 how Jews have done 100 years ago?
I know Buffett's mentor Graham has a broker company and buffett really
wanted to work for him. However Graham said I could not hire you and I only
hire
Jews because other company will not hire Jews at that time. so the history
repeats itself.
I think we should learn from the history of Jews in USA first. |
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r*********t
发帖数: 4911 | 27 it is even worse. not all the money Warren Buffett earned is counted into
that 17%. the actual tax rate for Warren Buffett is definitely lower than 17
%. |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: “无盈利”的医保: 亚马逊、伯克希尔、摩根大通联手杀入医保
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 30 09:24:04 2018, 美东)
伯克希尔首席执行官巴菲特（Warren Buffett）在声明中表示：
医疗保险法案导致医保成本飙升，它就像是一条饥饿的绦虫，有害于美国经济。我们对
此并没有解决方案。但我们不认为这是难以避免的。相反，我们赞同这样一种信念，即
把我们的集体资源给到国家最优秀的人才，解决他们的后顾之忧，对抗医疗成本的攀升
，同时提高病人的满意度和医疗服务效果。
摘要：这家由科技巨头、保险巨头和银行巨头联手设立的医保公司具有保护伞性质，旨
在应对医保成本飙升和复杂的医保系统。
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T*****m
发帖数: 3480 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: TrueSam (MITBBS政法委书记), 信区: Military
标 题: 靠， 国人真有钱啊：张丹阳花了2百万美元和巴菲特共进午餐
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 30 10:31:26 2009, 美东)
Hedge fund manager Zhao Danyang, who paid $2.11 million for lunch with
Warren Buffett
Meet Buffett's $2.1 million lunch partner
Hong Kong hedge fund manager Zhao Danyang says the Omaha sage is "so famous,
but he's just like your friend"
NEW YORK (Fortune) -- Plunking down $2.11 million for a steak lunch might
seem a tad bit excessive, even to a succes |
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s********n
发帖数: 1962 | 32 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
heartinny (小胖子 VS 大胖子) 于 (Mon Mar 3 01:13:00 2008) 提到:
Buffett的年报提出了一个有趣的问题,投资者对股市的长期回报的预期是多少.
美国政府Social Security的研究一直假设股市real turn(除掉inflation)是7%. 这跟
历史数据想吻合. 也符合历史的P/E ratio. 但是,我个人同意Buffett的观点,就是未来
的回报不一定这么高.
总体来说,我对股市长期的预期如下:通货膨胀为4%,TIP为2%,equity premium为3%. 所
以最终股市的长期回报为9%. Real return为5%. 考虑到2%的divident,实际股指增长为
7%.
同历史最大的差别是equity premium. 历史上大于5%. 但是,如果投资者都是理性的话,
应该会是0. 因为股市长期并不比债券风险大. 可惜人类永远不是理性的. 感谢那些害
怕股市wipe out的人, 所以我觉得3%更合理一些.
欢迎讨论.
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b****e
发帖数: 460 | 33 Thanks a lot.
Considering your understanding, it's amazing someone was gambling on Warren
Buffett would raise his bidding price when $1B broke up fee is on the table.
In over a half century of Warren Buffett's investment history, he only
raised his price once, 10 cents per share. I still don't understand this
someone. :)
debt
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s********n
发帖数: 1962 | 35 They discuss those nonsense because they don't really understand what
Buffettology really means. I am not a Buffett fan personally, but I know
no matter he is right or wrong this time, it's just too early to
discuss. Judging his performance based on return within a few month is
not only meaningless but also laughable.
The only reason those guys talk about Buffett at this moment is that
finding out a legend falling down (if that's ever true) along with
their accounts makes them feel a little bett |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 36 The bet between Buffett and Hedge Funds are:
Buffett wins if S&P beats the average of a bunch of hedge funds
in 10 year return (all expenses excluded), starting 1/1/2008.
Last year hedge funds won by a large margin: -20% (including
2% fee) vs -37%.
So |
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h*******y
发帖数: 864 | 37 Graham实在是个天才,只是人家不如Buffett那样对挣钱这么执着.
我读了1934年版的Security Analysis后觉得,以那个标准,虽然你可能很长时间找不到
适合投资的公司,可是要亏钱也几乎是不可能的. 比如,对于收入,Graham坚决反对用预期
收入,而是用过去十年的平均收入. 伪造帐目? 谁给我伪造个十年能不暴露的给我看看!
Buffett从没有公布过他的系统,可是我很难想象系统的完美性能超过Graham.
力和 |
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m*****u
发帖数: 1342 | 38 I can think of couple reasons
1) He seems value in BNSF;
2) He want to use some cash so that his successor won't have too much cash
to squander (this is legit
considering his age, and a lot of times people make mistake when they are
rich);
3) Last but most important, financial crisis taught Buffett a lesson:
liquidity is very important. GE and GS got
his endorsement and got cash by issuing stocks in one day. Buffett could not
do that before buying BNSF and
the stock split. Now he can. BRK is S&P |
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h*******y
发帖数: 864 | 39 It's time for him to acknowledge the intellectual heritage from Keynes.
Keynes first acknowledged that one needs to buy companies that he
understands, kind of Buffett's "cycle of competence". And to that end, he
also argued against diversification, which he said just meant that you owned
a lot of stocks you didn’t understand well.
Buffett's contribution is that not only one needs to understand the
companies, one has to understand that it has a "moat". That was missing from
both Keynes and Graham |
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m*h
发帖数: 85 | 40 it is quite obvious that people won't be as successful as buffett, if they
just listen to what buffett says. he always says that he doesn't care about
macro, but he has a degree in economics, and he reads huge amount of data
from his companies. if a person can not tell in a simple language the
current status of US economy, he can hardly be a value investor no matter
what value he sees
owned
from
for
Keynes |
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h*******y
发帖数: 864 | 41 Sometimes, you wonder what Buffett thinks.
On October 16 2008, at about 950 on the S&P , Warren Buffett announced that
he was a personal buyer of U.S. stocks because they were cheap and their
prices reflected widespread fear.
So you will think that to him, the fair value of the S&P is then at least
1000. If that is true, then today's bottom at 1055 is an OK deal. Not
terribly good one as the 666 for S&P last year, but still it's a fair deal.
However, your question is easy to answer. The reason h |
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 42 你说你们这些人没事干点什么不好. 乏低别人并不说明你们的高明,只是显示你们自己
是井底之蛙而已.
报表有很多的读法,可以读出很多内容来的. 没有漏洞的假报表,基本没有看到过,关键
在于善于问问题,而不是全盘接受报表. 价值投资根本不是你们想的那一样,不是说buy
and hold是价值投资,事实上buy and hold是反价值投资的,Buffett不是最根本的价值
投资的代表. 只有"Graham And Doddsville"的margin of safety原则才是价值投资(虽
然这两人倡导的P/B并不能算), 当然这一点Buffett也用, 所以也可以暂且算他是价值
投资.
价值投资用心做,股票番倍还是很容易的,套牢反而很少. 好的价值投资者,根本就不会
在没有希望几年内"价值实现"下,做投资的. 因为价值根本就不是固定的,时间拖得越久
,内在价值变化的可能性越大,还怎么做价值投资? 那种人,只能算是赌自己眼光独特而
已,跟价值投资差个十万八千里的. |
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 43 Munger himself has acknowledged that even without his input, Buffett will
too one day change his investment style away from "cigar butt" method into "
good business at fair price".
Come on, we are talking about Warren Buffett, he is smart enough to figure
out that himself, without anyone's help.
most
bad |
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m******e
发帖数: 2515 | 45 投资黄金，不是为了赚钱，而是为了“Don't lose money" (Warren Buffett's rule #
1， 当然他号称不投资黄金，但那是因为他个人特殊原因） 。
“盛世买古董，乱世买黄金”，这是古今中外反复被证明正确的策略。为什么？你不懂
，而Warren Buffett 不能。
负。 |
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m*******l
发帖数: 621 | 46 【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: maizegirl (叮当), 信区: Stock
标 题: 股市债市投资经验小结
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 13 11:49:58 2013, 美东)
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1. 为什么要写这篇文章
从2012年5月 开始重新进入美国股市、债市，到现在刚刚满一年。一直想写一点自
己投资的心里历程。一来感谢我的投资启蒙老师（M老师），二来也提供一些经验教训
给和我一样在投资路程上摸索的新手。
2. 复利效应和股场初试
我们对投资重新开始感兴趣，主要是两个原因。一是因为M老师一直以来将他的投
资理念蕴含在和我们闲聊的过程中。现在回头想想，真是辜负和浪费了许多M老师的投
资机会。尤其是听M老师聊在2008年金融危机时的经历，让我们对投资有了一个全新的
认识。原来投资还是有可能“有章可循”。
第二个原因，是对复利效应和追求经济独立... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******9
发帖数: 2265 | 47 大哥本金多少， 没扑进进首付里？
input/output = ???
别buffett了， 你比buffett强太多乐？ |
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发帖数: 2788 | 48 尼玛， FBI和Warren Buffett同时哭着喊着各要送我老五个米，想不发都不行
"Federal Bureau of Investigation
Counter-terrorism Division and Cyber Crime Division
J. Edgar. Hoover Building Washington DC
JAMES B. COMEY
Attention Beneficiary,
Records show that you are among one of the individuals and organizations
who are yet to receive their overdue payment from overseas ...,
The Cyber Crime Division of the FBI gathered information from the Internet
Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) on how some people have lost outrageous sum of
mone... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 22634 | 50 这个你这能说明硅谷大于 20 万贫困线的比楼主更加有权有势而已。。。根本
不能反驳楼主相对美国平均水平是有权有势。
您这个逻辑，就好比说 bill gates 的身价比 warren buffett 高，所以
warren buffett 就是无权无势。。。逻辑显然比楼主差上一条街。。。
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