y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 1 one great benefit of online poker is that you can play multiple tables. And
considering each table is your casino gambling machine, and you collect
money there. And multiple table means multiple machines.
So, generally speaking, you should have more profit per hour if playing
online.
When I see KKRUN or other buddy play only one table online, I would say:"
Come on , buddy, you lose one of the greatest online poker benefit".
the high buyin, the tough the game is. It should be very common, even li |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 still reasonable.
even some big buyin sng player can run very badly. one guy said he lose 30k
in one month. But he is famous on FTP sng. his all time earning is 140k from
sng through ftp. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 i play super turbo satellite before, 74$ buyin. I lose 17 games in a row.
really piss me off. I may make a couple mistake here and there. but it is
such bs. How can lose that many in a row. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 4 No.
Sounds to me, it is strange that they do not chop.(300k+450K)/2=370k*2+(10k for
HU and FTOP avar), when they are close enough. Or chip ratio chop.150K for a HU game is just too much for normal player, or even for professionals.
Maybe brain think he will win in the end, since he is professional and good HU player, and have played 25k buyin HU game before, and won 3rd.
From what I saw today, PSU got very lucky. he has kk, crazyevan has qq, get one double. Another time, PSU get AA, E*T gets KK, |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 5 Congratulations! pokeryjj played lots of super turbo too.
I did pretty poorly on this game, so now i almost quit. If I play I only
play for fun with small buyin. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 This game needs play a ton to win a big money, something around 500+ games
to win a decent money.
You can pay attention to your ITM rate, and your ROI.
Depend on the buyin, how many tables at one time, this should change a lot.
at
you
less |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 7 像kkrun，yuanjunjun，你们上过216的750000guarantee
和更大的500，1000buy in的吗，感觉如何 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 8 my group started with playing tournaments. once we started cash game we
never looked back. But we did go to AC for a group tournament about 8
months ago. $65 buy in. It was the first live tournament at a casino for
all of us. We knew next to nothing about texas hold'em back then. :)
One of us, Nathan, ended up finishing the 3rd. winning over $1000. and he
treated us for dinner. had a great time. but after that, all of us moved
to cash game ever since. |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 9 打过两次$3100的，两次$2100的。全部都是靠satellite赢进去。其中3100的两次都没
钱，2100的两次各收获6000左右。四次加起来大概只有微弱盈利，也就是把汽油费赚出
来了。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 wow, big, guess you hold the record here, hehe.
if i recall, melonli played this year's WSOP $1500 event and i thought that'
s a record. |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 12 It must be a totally different experience playing against people at that
level. The only one I have meet that played at those levels was a
professional poker player who moneyed at WSOP a few times with the best
finish of winning $700,000. He was super nice and even sit down with our
group to give us a few pointers. I was so green and naive at that time
and really didn't like his folding many "big hands". now looking back I
couldn't believe how ignorant I was.
I have to ask him to give |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 13 今年wsop有事情我没去成，去年打了一个$1500的Event，在2701人里面第51。也是打单
桌satellite赢得。那是我第一次也是迄今唯一的wsop经历。明年如不出意外一定要去。
that' |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 14 you played online satellite or in casino?
GL
去。 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 15 wsop must be so much fun. do you play huge buy in tournaments in general?
去。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 holy, i guess this is another record here, haha.
去。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 I guess it is casino satellite. Since just one table sng. |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 18 i played at casino mostly.
online i've been playing the minimum, 1/2 cents NL, just to see my stats and
what hands is profitable at what positions. |
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p********a
发帖数: 6437 | 21 c'mon, 这还read啥，
这有200次， 你就200次allin， 怎么可能fold。
这还是块儿八毛的， 就在这儿拼老命读来猜去， 加入上个1000￥buyin锦标赛， 那不
得油浸灯枯头发掉光？
aa如果没碰上flop pair（偶尔有人有set）或者3张同花， 想来想去都是白想。
这就是给了好牌却赢不大。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 you are right.
IF you play scared, you should not play that level.
And usually 2/4 $400buyin is normal, it is 100bb, some deep room allows $
800 buyin.
I usually play NL50 6max, and play 6table - 8 tables at the same time.
PAIR |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 23 aggr out of position is not so good. Because if you bet out with middle pair
, the guy in position can blow you off the hand with complete air. If you
watch the wsop main event, that Russian guy(Iwan) is very conservative out
of position, and very aggressive in position(blow AKo off with his AQo, the
flop is 8tj).
Just watch the wcoop main-event(10k buyin), even belowabove lose all chips
by playing out of position.
(3 guy left)
button raises, belowabove 3bets with a7o, flop Ad9c9h, belowabove ch |
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t******b
发帖数: 56 | 24 downswing happens. just make sure you have more than 30 buyins of the stake
you play. moving down and rebuilding bankroll are also good. game selection
is very important in low-mid stakes game.
t
call
As
temper |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 25 patpat, normal.
860$ is not a lot in 3/6 or 2/4 games.
even you have aa, when you get unlucky, qq beats you.
and you can not win flip, very very easy to lose 5 buyin.
t
call
As
temper |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 我又回来了 nice run.
1.5 hour, 8* buyin.
5/10 is hard to bluff, it sounds reasonable. Because those guys are more
experienced, have more reasonable calling range or re-raising range.
Will see you have more run on cash games.
打得一堆人对我恨之入骨，最后赢到600多。
,I raise to $40, bb folded, that guy folded. I showed Q4.
20, he called. Flop Axx, I did not look at flop at all, he bet $16, I called
; turn he bet another $16, I raised to $50. He folded. I showed Q4. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 我又回来了 recently a lot of guys from china on fulltilt are playing this mini-buyin
strategy, 20BB for 0.25/0.5 games, multi tables... double up or 50%+, then
change table. their opening/calling/shoving ranges are very straight forward
, TT+/AK/AQ/AJs (8 hands in total), no other hands, haha.
very easy to play against, either fold or win all. their best customers are
those donks who don't observe well and see their tendencies.
they shove a lot pre, yeah, win most of time, but only for SB/BB/1 or 2
limpers |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 28 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 我又回来了 多谢建议。 我一般都是minimum buyin, 一是刚开始的时候， 需要点时间来热身； 二
是看看手气， 手气好一般会很快翻倍的，double了我一般不会跑， 会一直赢到5倍左
右再考虑退出； 三是钱少， all in 没什么顾忌， 也容易给其他人造成我是很冲动的
选手的印象， 对我后面all in有好处。
averaging
better
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 29 老大， 昨天太惨了。
刚开始赢了1000， 后来跑去10/20的桌子，不输不赢。
然后到5/10的桌子， 那张桌子上面就两种人， 一种特别tight的人， 他们的钱赢不了， 另一种是mini buyin的， 拿来AK/KK/AA/AQ all in的， double 了就跑， 也很难赢。 我明知道不对， 还和他们死磕上了。
结果不仅将昨天赢来的1000输掉了， 还输掉了以前赢的1400， 总共损失2400。
我跳楼好了。 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 30 10/20的桌子。。。limit or no limit? kaka.
了， 另一种是mini buyin的， 拿来AK/KK/AA/AQ all in的， double 了就跑， 也很
难赢。 我明知道不对， 还和他们死磕上了。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 哈哈，你啊，投机心理太大，５／１０，１０／２０的桌子，你准备拿１０万的
bankroll来搏一把？？学费太高了，一个正常的swing你就翻船了。
你的技战术里面有俺很欠缺也很欣赏的很多东西，但是觉得你的整体打法也有点缺乏核
心，不稳。当然，你的搏击法，赌注大小决定了也不可能太有常规意义上的＂稳＂。
不知道你平时不玩时，看不看这个级别的其他人玩？也就是说，纯观摩学习？也不知道
你是否跟踪那些明显是有钱不在乎的毛驴？你选桌子对手有没有讲究？
注意到你的一个可能LEAK是，你的经常pre-flop, flop跟得挺狠，但是turn上蔫了，结
果花了１／３的筹码啥也没看着。接下来就比较tilt。此外有时候特别short了，好象
赌气，也不rebuy，也不shove，就干耗着，等着某把被别人suck out掉。
你的纪律好象不够，输赢控制有欠缺，很少看你稳定的玩，比如固定时间，固定buy-in
，基本上是指哪打哪，输了再上更高一级，reverse move down。
呵呵，不过相信你现在学到／体验到的东西，俺可能要３年以后才会有机会接触到。
了， 另一种是mini buyin的， 拿来AK/ |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 32 投机心理太大-----exactly
When you play cash game, you could estimate your winning rate, such as 4-6bb
/100hands.
in the long run, your winning rate is pretty consistent. If your skill level
increases, you can move to high buyin level. Otherwise, just stick to your
normal level( to balance the swings) , and win some easy cash. At the same
time, accumulate experience.
Your play way is just gambling, and winning big one time, and lose many many
times later on. Actually it is not consistent winning way to |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 33 haha, when I first play poker, I do not know what token is yet. every time,
I get 216$ token, I play it right away. Never get cashed.
But later on, I never play those 216$ buyin game. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 34 That is called Sunday major. Sounds to me, it is those high buyin, high guarantee tournies on all kinds of poker sites.
some guys just play Sunday major, because they do not have a lot of extra
time. "Jason jiang"(chinese guy?) get 7th on Sunday 750k guarantee recetly. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 35 http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/poker-coach-directory
And join your local poker club also, I never do it, but I think it can
enhance your poker skill very quickly.
Those big cash game name: Durrr, Cole, ... live in a house for several
months together, and learn poker games together.
Those young tourney shark: belowabove(win wpt title, 1.2million+, FTOP
Event1 champ, PS 5200$buyin tourney 3rd finisher), AJKhoosier, the Guy who
are ranked 1st on FTP .... rent a house, and live together for 3 mo |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 36 你说的东部$300 buyin是maximum.minimum是$60.
12$ |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 37 同感。我当时考察commerce的时候就发现了这个问题。真是大窘啊，才20BB，只要玩就
必定allin了。我怀疑是不是commerce有其他的屋子可以买high buyin。不过时间紧张
也没来得及问floor
12$ |
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h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 38 it's just one buyin. hoho |
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I****r
发帖数: 795 | 39 我最近开始玩德州扑克，上次也发过我做的app的广告
第一次玩，是在去老板加的party，八九个人一起玩holdem，我什么也不懂，什么牌看
什么牌都跟，总期望着奇迹出现来张好牌。估计大家开始也有这个经历。结果一晚上下
来，输了50多刀。20刀的buyin。钱虽然不多，但是面子上过不去。回家后，刻苦钻研
，看了不少咚咚。感觉这牌开始是概率，等你弄懂了概率后，就是玩心理。
因位我是做软件的，自以为数学不错，而且最近新买了个iphone，灵光一闪在iphone上
开发了个算holdem概率的软件。大概花了我两个月的时间，上个月，老板又开 party，
我心想我这回可是又备而来。果真，由于近两个月的时间天天泡在holdem上，熟悉了很
多。而且运气似乎也特别好。开始赢了200多刀，后来想想毕竟是我老板和同事，放了
一些水，最后带了150回家给儿子买了些奶粉和玩具。看了很多大牛写的分析，也是着
运用了一下，好记次我都猜出来对方的牌，故意放水顺便验证一下自己的猜测。
我那个软件已经拖我的朋友在app store 发布了。 有免费版和付费版。现在的免费
coupon都发完了，想要free版的。欢迎这 |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 40 For big buyin games, i would prefer play them in casino. Just feel safer. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 41 we've been talking about money management all the time. which means you
should only buyin $10 if you have a $200 bankroll. This guy should set aside
$1M, then automatcially downgrade his level when he's losing!
Oh well, I guess he should get married first :)
so |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 42 durrrr已经不能buyin 300BB是什么意思？是总的bankroll不足那么多，还是不敢放那
么多了？钱不够还是没必要继续了吧。ego啊。
rub
$1
go |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 I guess still very nice.
if you get sponsored by pokersites, usually you need to be top 30th MTT
online player(, and maybe you need play at least several 10k buyin live tournies already). I do not think cada qualify for that.
I guess even player like omg and durrr are still very hard to get a
sponsorship. |
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y**t
发帖数: 205 | 44 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 发泄一下下 Just finish a $5 buyin touney with around 500ppl. Still early with big blind
50. I have AA at BB. Several limper so I raise to 250 and only one people
call. Flop is 8 10 2 rainbow. Pot has about 900 and I have 1000ish. I shove
and that guy call (he has 2000+ chips) with 79 offsuit. And yes, he hit J.
support
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 45 Isildur1最后有3.3M, 大概2M是从Patrik那里来的.
must have crazy crazy crazy action. only plays 987 hands. Isi get 3.3M,
almost 16 buyin.
Patrick lose 1.5Million. Must a lot of allin. |
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a*****r
发帖数: 19 | 46 It seems that ivey is the winner tonight. They were playing 3 500/1000 NLHE
tables. I think the initial buyin is
600k (200k on each table) and ivey ended up around 1.7m in total. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 47 Yes. But I guess if regulars match up, both of them will lose big.
The reality case is spider phenomena, lots of regulars open the tables, but
they will not sit against each other, and wait for the victims.
You will see a lot of regulars buyin full, and opens the tables, and no one
plays against each other. Sometimes ppl(if you do not know) may wonder why
they do not just sit together, and plays the games.
It is real, you can observe it. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 48 By the way, if you pay attention, FTP rake race winners always are high
stake sng HU players. Usually 500+ $ for one buyin. Even without super turbo structure, only normal turbo structure.
s
rake
edge to win over rakes. Super turbo HU does not give you that edge, |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 49 多少BUYIN 的GAME? CONGRAT! |
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p********a
发帖数: 6437 | 50 xfl战绩稳定令人发指.
今天没赶上mit的, 赶上智游城的啦, 哪儿人气可真旺.
我说要不咱降低些buyin? 或许是个原因没人来. |
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