w******0
发帖数: 1404 | 1 我想她指的是这个。
发信人: whywhy00 (漿糊), 信区: Belief
标 题: Re: 給非基補課 -- 惡是誰造的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 10 22:47:41 2009)
这里似乎的确应该指灾祸，因为同样这个字出现在耶利米书18：8 and 11。耶利米书18
：8原文用一种修辞叫wordplay: 18：8说“if you turn away from r`h ("evil"),“
Iwill not make a r`h ("calamity") to you."
所以以赛亚书这里的用法很类似：平安指神的祝福，灾祸指神的审判。和合本翻译的不
错。
后来我又仔细看了旧约中原文这个字的用法，发现用于人时指人的恶行，用于神时指神
为审判而降的灾祸。
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 2 .
1:1. The parables of Solomon, the son of David, king of Israel,
1:2. To know wisdom, and instruction:
1:3. To understand the words of prudence: and to receive the instruction of
doctrine, justice, and judgment, and equity:
1:4. To give subtilty to little ones, to the young man knowledge and
understanding.
1:5. A wise man shall hear, and shall be wiser: and he that understandeth
shall possess governments.
1:6. He shall understand a parable and the interpretation, the words of the
wise, and thei... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 3 我覺得很明顯， 前一段講因為事而很多人被殺，下一段講另一段
的 calamity(殺戮)，講 Christ 那段跟這些都無關。
就看那一段吧， Josephus 除了不可能寫 He was [the] Christ.
以外， 也不可能寫 the divine prophets had foretold these and ...
也不可能寫他復活， 剩下還有多少？
另外一個旁證是後來幾百年的教會人士都不知道有這段， 這些人包括
Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Origen, Clement of Alexandria
否則都會被拿來用。 你可以查查這些人的生平。
事實上這段文字最早出現在 一個 叫 Eusebius 的神父的文章裡， 後來
被植入， 這都已經考察出來了。 Eusebius 可能就是這個偽造者。
Eusebius 主張可以為教會的發展而說謊。
你努力辯護 Josephus 那段是對的， 除了他這段， 其他都是上百年後寫的，
寫的也只是講基督徒或基督教而不是耶穌， 你拿不出其他歷史紀錄的。 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 4
請參考
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TrustInJesus/478455.html
耶穌的存在一直都被懷疑的。
Josephus 其他部分能不能支持基督教是你要去找的， 你要參加
討論要自己做點功夫。
這裡我幫你一下吧
"For in the 18th book of his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus bears witness
to John as having been a Baptist, and as promising purification to those
who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as
the Christ, in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the
destruction of the temple, whereas he ought to have said that the conspi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1904 | 5 历史学家约瑟夫斯
The antiquities of the Jews
Book2/Chapter 9
Concerning the afflictions that befell the Hebrews in Egypt, during four
hundred years.
1.Now it happened that the Egyptians grew delicate and lazy, as to
painstaking; and gave themselves up to other pleasures, and in particular to
the love of gian. They also became very ill affected towards the Hebrews,
as touched with envy at their prosperity; for when they saw how the nation
of the Israelites flourished, and were become eminent already in p... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9656 | 6 来自主题: ChineseClassics版 - “洋”汉学家 ·陈明哲·
国外有不少“洋”汉学家(Sinologist)。他们大多数是白人男士。有些人还有华裔(或
中国籍)的妻子。照理说，这些人耳濡目染，中文水平应该不错；但实际上，他们的中
文水平真不敢恭维。这方面的笑话很多。比如，中文“洋”教授不知道“打的”是什么
意思；不明白“的”字怎么可以放在“打”字之后。也有“洋”教授在新书讨论会上说
，我认识这本书(I know the book.)。
我读了不少中文小说的英译本。凡是“洋”汉学家翻译的，都有很多错误，令人可气又
可笑。可气的是原著中的意思根本没译出来；可笑的是一些很简单的中文他们不懂。
比如不知道“黄河百害，惟富一套。”中的“一套”是指河套地区：
[(姜戎著)]P. 57, Line 8: “黄河百害，惟富一套。”
[英译本"Wolf Totem"] P. 90, Line 31: "The Yellow River causes a hundred
calamities but enriches all it touches";
又如，将“士可杀，不可辱”中的“士”译为 warrior (武士)：
[(姜戎著)] P. 173, L... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1038 | 7 I
The way led along upon what had once been the embankment of a railroad. But
no train had run upon it for many years. The forest on either side swelled
up the slopes of the embankment and crested across it in a green wave of
trees and bushes. The trail was as narrow as a man's body, and was no more
than a wild-animal runway.
Occasionally, a piece of rusty iron, showing through the forest-mold,
advertised that the rail and the ties still remained. In one place, a ten-
inch tree, bursting through... 阅读全帖 |
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B****n
发帖数: 6452 | 8 2008-12-25 圣诞节
门德尔松的《婚礼进行曲》响起时梦雪拉了一下云风的左耳朵。
“不行。”云风轻声说，摘下棉手套递给梦雪，“换一下。”梦雪不接，又拉了一下云风的左耳朵。
“真的不行。”云风轻轻拂去梦雪眉毛上的落雪，拿过她手里的相机，摘下她的手套换好，“等会跟哥嫂一起回家吃饭了，爸妈等着呢。”
“可是洞房花烛夜那天我们都没……今天补上不行吗？”梦雪抿着嘴看着云风，“当然是我实在太困睡着了，可是你为什么不叫我啊？”
云风无可奈何地看着梦雪，忽然不自觉地舔了一下嘴唇，梦雪笑了起来。云风脸马上红了，把相机塞到梦雪手里，“不是，真的不是，是嘴唇太干。”
“Cut! Cut!”阿哲冲两人挥挥手，“嘿，我这正拍婚礼呢，镜头全被你俩抢了，千万不能跟这儿开练啊，你们敢做，我还不敢拍呢，当审查部门吃素的？得，男女主角的戏到此为止，你们赶紧回家亲热去吧。”阿哲回身问天宇，“勿忘我怎么还没送到？再去催催。这大雪天儿的，儿子还跟家等我吃火锅呢。”
云风和梦雪相视而笑，相拥着看着前面的三对美丽冻人的新人。云霄和洛菊，韩月和梅子，若兰和麦子穿着婚纱礼服站在未名湖上冻得直哆嗦，这年头俗到参加集体婚礼的肯定不是... 阅读全帖 |
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l***a
发帖数: 5114 | 9 最近翻出阿西莫夫作品全集来重看，真挺有意思的，不仅囊括了他最早期那些名不见经
传的短篇，还有自己写的“创作感想”。看到TRENDS那一篇，居然发现他在1938年（当
时他还在读大学）成功预测成两件事：1）1940年第二次世界大战，2）1970年，人类登
月。
两件事都只差1年而已！
我一直觉得那个SF黄金时期的创作高峰,后来者很难翻越……
下面附TRENDS 的原文。
TRENDS
John Harman was sitting at his desk, brooding, when I entered the office
that day.
It had become a common sight, by then, to see him staring out at the Hudson,
head in
hand, a scowl contorting his face—all too common. It seemed unfair for the
little bantam
to be eating his heart out like that day after day... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 19049 | 10 THE PACIFIC JOURNAL OF ADAM EWING
Thursday, 7th November—
Beyond the Indian hamlet, upon a forlorn strand, I happened on a trail of
recent footprints.
Through rotting kelp, sea cocoa-nuts & bamboo, the tracks led me to their
maker, a White man,
his trow-zers & Pea-jacket rolled up, sporting a kempt beard & an outsized
Beaver, shoveling
& sifting the cindery sand with a teaspoon so intently that he noticed me
only after I had hailed
him from ten yards away. Thus it was, I made the acquaintance of... 阅读全帖 |
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C***r
发帖数: 759 | 11 BOOK I.
ARGUMENT.
AUGUSTIN CENSURES THE PAGANS, WHO ATTRIBUTED THE CALAMITIES
OF THE WORLD, AND ESPECIALLY THE
RECENT SACK OF ROME BY THE GOTHS, TO THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION,
AND ITS PROHIBITION OF THE WORSHIP OF THE
GODS. HE SPEAKS OF THE BLESSINGS AND ILLS OF LIFE, WHICH
THEN, AS ALWAYS, HAPPENED TO GOOD AND BAD
MEN ALIKE. FINALLY, HE REBUKES THE SHAMELESSNESS OF THOSE
WHO CAST UP TO THE CHRISTIANS THAT THEIR
WOMEN HAD BEEN VIOLATED BY THE SOLDIERS.
PREFACE, EXPLAINING HIS DESIGN IN UNDERTAKING T |
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w******0
发帖数: 1404 | 12 对，原文这个词用在人时指恶，用在神时指灾祸。就是神用以惩罚的办法。
同样这个字出现在耶利米书18：8 and 11。耶利米书18：8原文用一种修辞叫wordplay:
18：8说“if you turn away from r`h ("evil"),“Iwill not make a r`h ("
calamity") to you." 所以以赛亚书这里的用法很类似：平安指神的祝福，灾祸指神的
审判。和合本翻译的很好。
神决没有造恶！神造万物成为美好（传道书3：11），恶是人自己犯罪的结果（7：29；cf. 结28：15） |
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发帖数: 483 | 13 原文是[ra']。建议查一下希伯来文原义，看看翻译对不对。
我觉得译作“灾祸”比较合适。
7451. ra' (rah)
7452 >>
From ra'a'; bad or (as noun) evil (natural or moral) -- adversity,
affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil((- favouredness
), man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful
), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery, naught(-ty), noisome, +
not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness, one),
worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong. (Incl. Feminine raaah; as |
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发帖数: 5785 | 14 根据新版美国标准本圣经，这里是神创造黑暗。
Isaiah 45：7 The One forming light and creating darkness， causing wellbeing
and creating calamity， I am the Loard who doesall these.
篇就开始谈神的创造，6天造了世界，然后第7天就安息了。世界上所有的一切都是神造
的。就连灵界的天使和堕落的天使也是上帝造的。从创造的主权和能力来说，没有任何
不是上帝创造的，谈到create，那么只能有一位才有资格create,那就是神。被造者只
能发现，开发，发明东西却不能创造东西。因此从创造的主权来说，神是恶的创造者。
但是神不是恶的产生者，因为神是善的本体，在神本身没有恶，恶无法和神在一体。恶
的产生是魔鬼要想和神一样，想否认神的唯一的地位: 。因此当魔鬼离开神，也就是离
开了善，那么恶就出现了。魔鬼是恶的产生者，不是恶的创造者，他是受造物。
个创造宇宙世界的神，一个唯一有创造能力的神。万有都本于他。 |
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发帖数: 10575 | 15 http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iii.iii.html
Chapter IV
The Sovereignty of God
Every thinking person readily sees that some sovereignty rules his life. He
was not asked whether or not he would have existence; nor when, where, or
what he would be born; whether in the twentieth century or before the flood;
whether white or Negro; whether in America or in China. It has been
recognized by Christians in all ages that God is the Creator and Ruler of
the universe, and that as the Creator and ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 16 好奇一下，许多是多少个?
New International Version (©1984)
When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had
compassion and did not bring upon
them the destruction he had threatened.
New Living Translation (©2007)
When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil
ways, he changed his mind and did not
carry out the destruction he had threatened.
English Standard Version (©2001)
When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, Go... 阅读全帖 |
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G*M
发帖数: 6042 | 17 Bible Course - Christian Doctrine
Lesson 2
The Misery of Man
Lord's Day II-IV
Lord's Day II-IV are the first part of the Heidelberg Catechism. Questions 3
-11 are dealt with here. In this part, the misery of man comes up for
discussion.
Lord's Day II
Q. 3.Whence knowest thou thy misery?
Answ. Out of the Law of God. (a).
(a) Rom.3:20
What is misery?
What actually is misery? It means that we are in a wretched or extremely
unhappy situation. There are many examples: war, hunger, quarreling,
unemplo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 18 Letter from Visitor on Calvinism, Evil and God's Holiness
Today I received an email to my to Monergism.com account from a visitor name
d Shawn. He asked some important questions on on Calvinism, Evil and God's H
oliness. I have reproduced his email in full with my response (with a couple
paragraphs on Job that quote liberally from John Piper)
Dear Mr. Hendryx,
I've been reading your website with interest and find it to be one of the ve
ry best Calvinistic resources I've seen on the net. I am not... 阅读全帖 |
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w******g
发帖数: 10018 | 19 你引用就证明你赞成，不要推卸。evil在这里当然是名词，但是Evil作为名词用同样
可以不带道德意义，指something that is harmful or undesirable。事实上，
在一些英译本中，就把这个词翻成Calamity，指an event causing great and
often sudden damage or distress; a disaster的意思（参NASB）。
对于神职人员，你自己首先在下定义，说神职人员是要以此挣钱，我告诉你不是。请问
这点你同意不同意？
你自己论断的时候已经太多了。
？ |
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w******g
发帖数: 10018 | 20 Scofield Reference Bible:
Heb. "ra" translated "sorrow," "wretchedness," "adversity,"
"afflictions," "calamities," but never translated sin. God
created evil only in the sense that He made sorrow, wretchedness,
etc., to be the sure fruits of sin.
问题不在是否使用了Evil一词，而在于这一词的含义。从上下文的意思来看，Evil是和
Peace相对使用，如果是道德意义上的话，应该用Good才对。这里的意思和哀歌三38：
“祸福不都出于至高者的口么？”是一样的。英文同样用的是Evil。
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 21 A SPEECH OF Mr. JOHN MILTON
For the Liberty of VNLICENC'D PRINTING,
To the PARLAMENT of ENGLAND.
______________________________________________________________
This is true Liberty when free born men
Having to advise the public may speak free,
Which he who can, and will, deserv's high praise,
Who neither can nor will, may hold his peace;
What can be juster in a State then this?
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 22 试然，真理曾经随着圣主一度降临世界，其形态十分完美而灿烂夺目，但当圣主升天而
使徒们又已长眠之后，这时就兴起了一个恶毒的欺骗民族。他们就象埃及的泰丰及其同
谋者对待善良的奥西斯一样，他们把圣洁的真理拿来，把她可爱的形体砍成千万个碎片
四散抛开。从那以后，可悲的真理的友人，凡是敢于挺身而出的，都象易西斯寻找奥西
斯的零碎尸体一样，四处奔跑，一块一块地拼凑起来，就象能全部找到似的，上议员和
下议员们，我们还没有全部找到，在圣主再次降临以前，也不可能全都找到。唯有圣主
才能把每一个关节和每一个部分拼凑起来，再铸成永生不死的美妙而完善的形象。我们
不要让这种许可令到处妨碍和阻挠继续寻找真理并继续对殉道的圣者举行葬礼的人。我
们对于光明感到骄傲，但如果我们不能明智地对待太阳，它就会让我们瞎眼。比方说，
常被燃烧的行星，和亮度极大、随同太阳上升下降、直到它们相对地运动到天空某一个
部位而在早晚可见的两颗星，在白天又有谁能分辨呢？因此，上天赐给我们光，不是要
我们对着光注视，而是要我们利用光来发现我们还远不知道的东西。我们之所以能成为
一个快乐的民族，并不是由于我们脱下了教士的道袍、取消了主教的法冠... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 23 据我们会众的传教士说，现在每两分钟，就有一人受浸加入我们教会。
我们教会的网站有我们的教友自己的证言，看了之后发现大家加入我们教会的理由各有
不同，在此节选一些分享：
http://mormon.org/me/5ZGF/
Why I am a Mormon
I became a Mormon because of its family based and family centred beliefs and
teaching. It teaches people about God who is our Heavenly Father and His
son Jesus Christ who is our Saviour and the saviour of the World.
I love becaming a Mormon because it teaches mankind of their potential and
their true relationship to a God who is merciful and full of compassion
despite ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 24
2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
"
When we become hardened against the admonitions of the Lord, impenitence
follows; and they who are not anxious about repentance openly provoke the
Lord.[65]
This is a remarkable passage: we may hence learn what I have already
referred to — that the ungodly not only accumulate for themselves daily a
heavier weight of God’s judgments, as long... 阅读全帖 |
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J*****3
发帖数: 4298 | 25 根据圣经，邪恶是耶和华造的，你怎敢凌驾于你家主之上
<< Isaiah 45:7 >>I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and
create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things. |
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J*****3
发帖数: 4298 | 26 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基板名人堂 反正这个RAH OR RA 这个词在希伯来语中不是好词，基本上等同于 evil, woe,
calamity 等 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 27 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 恶的第一因
"
create evil—not moral evil (Jas 1:13), but in contrast to "peace" in the
parallel clause, war, disaster (compare Ps 65:7; Am 3:6)."
John Calvin's commentary
http://www.ccel.org/study/Isaiah_45
"
Making peace, and creating evil. By the words “light” and “darkness” he
describes metaphorically not only peace and war; but adverse and prosperous
events of any kind; and he extends the word peace, according to the custom
of Hebrew writers, to all success and prosperity. This is made abundantly
clear... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 28 well said.
borrowing my pastor's comment -- when we face calamity, Bible teaches us not
to look backward and ask "why", but to look forward and ask "what for".
John:
9:1 耶 稣 过 去 的 时 候 ， 看 见 一 个 人 生 来 是 瞎 眼 的 。
9:2 门 徒 问 耶 稣 说 ， 拉 比 ， 这 人 生 来 是 瞎 眼 的 ， 是 谁 犯 了 罪
？ 是 这 人 呢 ？ 是 他 父 母 呢 ？
9:3 耶 稣 回 答 说 ， 也 不 是 这 人 犯 了 罪 ， 也 不 是 他 父 母 犯 了 罪
， 是 要 在 他 身 上 显 出 神 的 作 为 来 。
神 在 约伯身 上 显 出 神 的 作 为 来. |
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发帖数: 5754 | 29
My reply is about the incorrect view of Job's friends on calamity -- as xwa
put it "行善的得福报，行恶的才遭祸患。" |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 30 thanks for leading the bible study.
additional comments on 19 & 20 from John Calvin:
19. They were terrified. The other Evangelists explain the cause of that
fear to have been, that they thought that it was an apparition, (
Matthew 14:26;
And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled,
saying, It is a ghost; and they cried out for fear.
Mark 6:49.
but they, when they saw him walking on the sea, supposed that it was a ghost
, and cried out;
)
Now it is impossible not to be... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 194 | 31 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 马礼逊父子 十九世纪初，英国鉴于一七九三年(乾隆五十八年)派遣使节马戞尔尼(Earl George
Macartney，1737-1806)到中国的失败，又看到法国利用天主教神甫在东方活动的成功
，因此也想利用宗教的伪善面貌作掩护，派基督教新教教士深入中国作侵略的先遣部队
。马礼逊(R0bertMorrison，1782—1834)，英国伦敦会传教士。出身较贫苦，1804年5
月向伦敦布道会报名，自愿为国外宣教师，随即被送进宣教学院接受十四个月的训练。
1807年1月8日被授为牧师，1月31日被派遣来中国。他于1月31日从伦敦出发，三个月后
到达美国纽约，在美国政府的协助下，搭乘美国同孚洋行老板奥立芬的三叉号鸦片走私
船，绕道南美洲经太平洋先到澳门，当年(嘉庆十二年)9月7日到达广州
编辑摘要
目录
1 简介
2 个人经历
马礼逊父子 - 简介
十九世纪初，英国鉴于一七九三年(乾隆五十八年)派遣使节马戞尔尼(Earl George
Macartney，1737-1806)到中国的失败，又看到法国利用天主教神甫在东方活动的成功
，因此也想利用宗教的伪善面貌作掩护，派基督教新教教士深入中国作侵略的先遣... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6300 | 32 誰能使我與神的愛隔絕
Who Can Separate Us
哦~ 神偉大的愛Great is the love of God,
何其長闊高深How wide and high, and how deep!
竟不吝惜祂獨生愛子Sparing not even His only Son,
為我們眾人捨了 So that we all might be free.
神稱為義的人誰能控告T hose He has justified who can accuse?
誰能定他們的罪Who else but God can condemn?
神若幫助我們 誰能敵擋我們If God is for us, then who can be against us?
誰能使我與神的愛隔絕Who can separate us from His love?
難道是患難嗎 是困苦嗎Shall persecution, calamity,
是逼迫嗎 是飢餓嗎Or suffering or famine,
是赤身露體 危險 刀劍嗎O r nakedness or danger or the sword?
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发帖数: 5754 | 33 【 以下文字转载自 BibleStudy 俱乐部 】
发信人: SEEKETERNAL (追求永生), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Huckabee: Where was God?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 17 22:55:32 2012, 美东)
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当那些反神长期以来不遗余力地把一切对神敬拜的行为赶出校园等公共场所以后，一旦
发生这样的惨案，他们又会不知羞耻地倒打一耙，问神在哪里，质疑神为什么不管。下
面这个讲话在一定程度上对这个种恶因结恶果的现象予以揭示，供弟兄姊妹参考。....
.."
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2038135300001/huckabee-where-was-god
NEW YORK (BP) -- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee took to his Saturday
show on Fox News to answer the question of where God was during Friday's
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发帖数: 1904 | 34 "Some critics and scholars have condemned Jephthah for his vow, having the
view that Jephthah followed the practice of other nations, offering up his
daughter by fire as a human burnt offering. But this is not the case. It
would be an insult to Jehovah, a disgusting thing in violation of his law,
to make a literal human sacrifice. He strictly commanded Israel: “You must
not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. There
should not be found in you anyone who makes his son ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 35 http://www.clearbibleanswers.org/questionsanswers/100-how-can-g
How can God PUNISH a person’s family to the 3RD AND 4TH GENERATION?
QUESTION 17
IS IT FAIR FOR GOD TO PUNISH THE INNOCENT? HE SAID, "VISITING THE INIQUITY
OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF
THEM THAT HATE ME"! (EXODUS 20:5)
Only four times in Scripture this phrase is recorded. In Exodus
20:5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, and Deuteronomy 5:9. These are all in the
writings of Moses. In E... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 36 zhaowendao不要搞标题党了。讨论圣经就好好讨论嘛。
很高兴看到你引圣经时，把书章节都引得很全，而且这是你的新帖，虽然内容是一贯的
雷声大雨点小，结论是一样的无厘头，但还是要顶的。
Proverb 22:7只是一句而已，说一个事实而已，现在也是富人管穷人。而且上帝说借钱
的人手短。后来几句，其实上帝还是要人不要作恶，而且要慷慨的
Proverbs 22
8 Whoever sows injustice reaps calamity,
and the rod they wield in fury will be broken.
9 The generous will themselves be blessed,
for they share their food with the poor.
Romans 13:1-2 和 1 Peter 2:13
都是告诉基督徒要服从权威（上级或是我们需要听从的人）。不是非要服从皇帝。服从
皇帝只是其中的一种。但这不是说上帝鼓励封建统治。（就好像上帝也不鼓励奴隶制一
样。）但这种服从也不是无条件理由的服从。如果权威没有起到奖恶惩善... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 37 zhaowendao不要搞标题党了。讨论圣经就好好讨论嘛。
很高兴看到你引圣经时，把书章节都引得很全，而且这是你的新帖，虽然内容是一贯的
雷声大雨点小，结论是一样的无厘头，但还是要顶的。
Proverb 22:7只是一句而已，说一个事实而已，现在也是富人管穷人。而且上帝说借钱
的人手短。后来几句，其实上帝还是要人不要作恶，而且要慷慨的
Proverbs 22
8 Whoever sows injustice reaps calamity,
and the rod they wield in fury will be broken.
9 The generous will themselves be blessed,
for they share their food with the poor.
Romans 13:1-2 和 1 Peter 2:13
都是告诉基督徒要服从权威（上级或是我们需要听从的人）。不是非要服从皇帝。服从
皇帝只是其中的一种。但这不是说上帝鼓励封建统治。（就好像上帝也不鼓励奴隶制一
样。）但这种服从也不是无条件理由的服从。如果权威没有起到奖恶惩善... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1904 | 38 The antiquities of the Jews
Book2/Chapter 9
Concerning the afflictions that befell the Hebrews in Egypt, during four
hundred years.
1.Now it happened that the Egyptians grew delicate and lazy, as to
painstaking; and gave themselves up to other pleasures, and in particular to
the love of gian. They also became very ill affected towards the Hebrews,
as touched with envy at their prosperity; for when they saw how the nation
of the Israelites flourished, and were become eminent already in plenty of
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发帖数: 1904 | 39 申命记18：10说了耶和华痛恨把儿女投入火中。既然耶弗他是上帝悦纳的人，你认为他
会做出这样的事情吗？此时已经有摩西律法。在圣经全书里除了亚伯拉罕（没有摩西律
法）和这个值得商榷的问题以外，从来都没有拿人做全烧祭的（受异教影响除外）。利
未记第一章说明了什么可以作为全烧祭。
倒是这句话之前，先说了谁要迎接他，就把谁归耶和华。什么叫归耶和华？请参考士师
记13：5和撒母耳上1：11。实际上，耶弗他献女儿和哈拿献儿子是类似的。撒上1：4有
祭肉，1：21是献祭的时候但是撒母耳还没有断奶，也就是说如果断奶了，那么哈拿会
献人，同时按照惯例，哈拿的丈夫也会献上祭肉的。正如从撒上1：24开始描述的。
至于圣经上为什么写把他献做全烧祭，个人理解圣经公正地把当事人的想法记下来。我
们有很多时候想的是一个意思，但是说出来有可能是另外一个意思，本民族的人都能理
解，知道省略了什么，但是外族人就不一定理解，尤其是不了解这个民族的风俗习惯的
时候。从这点我倒是对圣经的记载觉得更可靠，因为它真实记载了人的不完美。
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发帖数: 8775 | 41 我不是研究希特勒的，我相信研究希特勒的人知道的比这点多多了。
别以为找到了几个引文，你就比历史学家研究的都好了。你可以继续跟那些历史学家辩
论：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_beliefs
It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's long term aim was the
eradication of Christianity in Germany.
Sharkey, Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces
Planned To Destroy German Christianity, New York Times, 13 January 2002
The Nazi Master Plan: The Persecution of the Christian Churches, Rutgers
Journal of Law and Relig... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2588 | 42 【以赛亚书 45 ：7】 我造光，又造暗；我施平安，又降灾祸。造做这一切的，是我耶
和华。
【NIV Isaiah 45 ：7】 I form the light and create darkness, I bring
prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.
【NKJV Isaiah 45 ：7】I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.
灾祸跟evil不是同一回事，灾祸可以是以恶制恶的一种惩罚，
evil是罪恶的意思。
你自己引用的版本上， peace跟evil的对仗中，如果 evil翻译成罪恶，是不工整的。
关键还是要看原文。
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发帖数: 87 | 43 Every Nation Worships the Practical God
1. This time, God comes to do work not in a spiritual body but in a very
ordinary, very ordinary one. Not only is it the body of God’s second
incarnation, but also the body in which God returns. It is very ordinary
flesh. In Him, you cannot see anything that is different from others, but
you can receive from Him the truths you have never heard before, receive
from Him the truths you have never heard before. This insignificant flesh is
the embodiment of all... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6452 | 44 2008-12-25 圣诞节
门德尔松的《婚礼进行曲》响起时梦雪拉了一下云风的左耳朵。
“不行。”云风轻声说，摘下棉手套递给梦雪，“换一下。”梦雪不接，又拉了一下云风的左耳朵。
“真的不行。”云风轻轻拂去梦雪眉毛上的落雪，拿过她手里的相机，摘下她的手套换好，“等会跟哥嫂一起回家吃饭了，爸妈等着呢。”
“可是洞房花烛夜那天我们都没……今天补上不行吗？”梦雪抿着嘴看着云风，“当然是我实在太困睡着了，可是你为什么不叫我啊？”
云风无可奈何地看着梦雪，忽然不自觉地舔了一下嘴唇，梦雪笑了起来。云风脸马上红了，把相机塞到梦雪手里，“不是，真的不是，是嘴唇太干。”
“Cut! Cut!”阿哲冲两人挥挥手，“嘿，我这正拍婚礼呢，镜头全被你俩抢了，千万不能跟这儿开练啊，你们敢做，我还不敢拍呢，当审查部门吃素的？得，男女主角的戏到此为止，你们赶紧回家亲热去吧。”阿哲回身问天宇，“勿忘我怎么还没送到？再去催催。这大雪天儿的，儿子还跟家等我吃火锅呢。”
云风和梦雪相视而笑，相拥着看着前面的三对美丽冻人的新人。云霄和洛菊，韩月和梅子，若兰和麦子穿着婚纱礼服站在未名湖上冻得直哆嗦，这年头俗到参加集体婚礼的肯定不是... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4412 | 45 New Zealand Building Code Gave All-Clear Before Quake
Wall Street Journal - Geoffrey Rogow * MARCH 1, 2011
CHRISTCHURCH—Experts are questioning why so many of the buildings damaged
in last year's earthquake in New Zealand were given the all-clear, an
alleged oversight that some say added to the calamity brought by last week's
quake in Christchurch.
"Everything had been weakened by that first quake, that's for sure," said
Steve Calanog, a federal "on scene" coordinator for the U.S. Environm... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9638 | 46 中国医生有偶像吗？ 我觉得够呛，中医可以有李时珍什么的，中国的西医们不会把希
波克拉底当偶像吧？
最近因为externship的事与韩国人有一些接触，我知道中国人似乎对韩国人对中国古代
文化的说法有非议，但这个韩国医生实在让我另眼相看，他说他从小崇拜孙中山，我的
老中朋友是不信的，觉得是忽悠，但看看他给我的这个文章，他能不崇拜孙中山吗？
这个讲话时是孙中山100年前在日本的一个讲话， 难怪中国有中山医学院，但有几个人
知道孙中山的这个讲话？
Gentlemen: I highly appreciate this cordial reception with which you are
honoring me today. The topic of the day is "Pan-Asianism," but before we
touch upon the subject, we must first have a clear conception of Asia's
place in the world. Asia, in my opinion, is the cradle of t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9638 | 47 中国医生有偶像吗？ 我觉得够呛，中医可以有李时珍什么的，中国的西医们不会把希
波克拉底当偶像吧？
最近因为externship的事与韩国人有一些接触，我知道中国人似乎对韩国人对中国古代
文化的说法有非议，但这个韩国医生实在让我另眼相看，他说他从小崇拜孙中山，我的
老中朋友是不信的，觉得是忽悠，但看看他给我的这个文章，他能不崇拜孙中山吗？
这个讲话时是孙中山100年前在日本的一个讲话， 难怪中国有中山医学院，但有几个人
知道孙中山的这个讲话？
Gentlemen: I highly appreciate this cordial reception with which you are
honoring me today. The topic of the day is "Pan-Asianism," but before we
touch upon the subject, we must first have a clear conception of Asia's
place in the world. Asia, in my opinion, is the cradle of t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7283 | 48 仔细看具体每个公司的报表就能解除很多“想出来”的疑问。
比如说丰田2012报表第26页就清楚写着，financial service的利润“primarily due
to an increase in financing volume and broad improvement in expenses related
to loan losses and residual value”。
并且在第50页，很清楚列出了automotive部门的数据包含了下面这些成分（关于“
incentive”的疑问，下面第4点就回答了）：
• vehicle unit sales volumes,
• the mix of vehicle models and options sold,
• the level of parts and service sales,
• the levels of price discounts and other sales incentives and
marketing costs,
• the co... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2525 | 49 这篇文章很有意思
zz from wsj.com
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703673604575550243700895762.html
What the Tea Partiers Really Want
The passion behind the populist insurgency is less about liberty than a
particularly American idea of karma.
By JONATHAN HAIDT
What do the tea partiers really want? The title of a recent book by two of
the movement's leaders offers an answer: "Give Us Liberty: A Tea Party
Manifesto." The authors, Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe, write that "We just want
to be free. ... 阅读全帖 |
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