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z****c
发帖数: 602 | 2 "Washington has approved South Korea’s plan to sell about 86,000 M1 Garand
rifles and 22,000 M1 carbine rifles, together valued at 108 million dollars,
the ministry said"
That is $1000 per piece. I don't see these are coming from that batch. |
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M*********e
发帖数: 3153 | 3
那堆不算主流，算低价
如果一定强调铁瞄，可以选CZ 527 CARBINE，
其他几个厂家也都有带铁瞄的，
似乎欧洲公司更喜欢保留这个 |
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W****w
发帖数: 1532 | 4 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 这是M1? springfield armory 的 M1A,特征已完全是M14，所以M1A就是M14的山寨。
不是二战时候的M1卡宾.
springfield 取名时候用的二战名器M1 carbine 再加个A，是比较confuse啊 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 5 http://www.magnumresearch.com/News.asp
PEARL RIVER, NY – Kahr Arms, the well known American based producer of
high quality compact pistols has announced its recent purchase of
Minnesota-based firearms manufacturer, Magnum Research, Inc.®, maker of
the Desert Eagle® Pistol.
Kahr Arms takes pride in its ability to offer customers a selection of
unique niche-type firearms, such as the world famous “Tommy Gun” and Auto-
Ordnance line of M1 .30 caliber carbines. The addition of Magnum Resea |
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i********1
发帖数: 653 | 6 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 新玩具 20 inch ones are still shorter than AR15 carbin with stock fully collapsed.
20" gives higher bullet velocity.
Also STG556 being so short, I didn't want to have muzzle end too close to my
face... :) I hate the concussion coming from short barrel.
Then finally they didn't have 16" with integrated optics. So I didn't have
any choice.
为什么买20寸枪管的不买16寸的？ |
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o*******p
发帖数: 722 | 7 luftwaffe= air war
so it was a gun on an airplane?
么？ |
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 8 这名字一听就便宜不了。
luftwaffe = air force |
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t*****8
发帖数: 1274 | 9 我知道是二战时德国空军的枪，只是不知道为啥这么贵。。。稀有？？ |
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M*********e
发帖数: 3153 | 11 幸好刚定了把CZ 527 CARBINE，要不每次100发步枪弹
我得肉疼了
不过，内个.22LR步枪也算步枪哈 |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 13 好多美帝红脖概括其为"communist carbine"
其实这个挺形象的 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 14
呃，我也想用新到手的CZ 527 carbine上场 |
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 15 既然你是用来打猎的，上6.8SPC吧
Mega Billet Upper/Lower Match Set
Magpul UBR Stock
CAA UPG16 Pistol Grip
Noveske 18" 6.8mm Barrel & Matched bolt carrier group
PRI Carbon Fiber Handguard Rifle length
PRI Charge Handle
PRI 6.8mm Muzzle Brake
Geissele two stage trigger
DPMS lower parts kit w/o trigger, carbine buffer & spring
如果你不介意枪重，而且主要是架起来打靶的
那么就上一个Mega MTS Upper + Magpul PRS Stock + Rifle Buffer & Spring... |
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 16 Rock River Arms, Inc.: Car A2
Rock River Arms, Inc.: Car A4 Flattop
Rock River Arms, Inc.: LE Tactical Carbine
Rock River Arms, Inc.: NM A2 - DCM Legal
Rock River Arms, Inc.: Standard A-2
Rock River Arms, Inc.: Standard A-4 Flattop
All those RRA ARs are banned by name and style in California...
I do not think any California FFL will help you transfer a RRA AR even you can find someone sell you one. |
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b******o
发帖数: 5644 | 17 准备哪天吧HK45和XDM45都租来试试，横向比较一下。诸位练过的，有哪些注意事项和
比较重点？是不是.45的枪，越接近5吋管越好？因为按照设计，火药应该在5吋的管子
里烧完，就像556NATO是给20吋管子设计的。carbine的话，就会有超过预期的声光效果
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 18 本期讨论话题是自己觉得最梦幻的三枪装备
请注明厂牌，型号，口径，最好能附带照片
也可以对最每只枪所带的附件加以描述
1. 手枪 （Pistol)
2. 散弹枪 (Shotgun)
3. 长枪 (Rifle or Carbine) |
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b******o
发帖数: 5644 | 19 加州有什么更变态的法律吗？今天我看了好几把1911都写的illegal in CA。
S&W MP15不是有100 rebate吗，打算搞一把，可是觉得NJ的短弹夹政策，搞carbine是
不是没什么意思？加州的情况是不是也差不多？ |
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k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 20 话说LAPD的片警们都练（玩)些啥啊？
不用练什么dynamic carbine吧 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 21
REMINGTON 799, CDNN有卖
CZ 527 7.62X39 CARBINE，我有一个
RUGER M77，如果不觉得价钱离谱
SAIGA 7.62X39，厂家说那个也能装镜子 |
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M***H
发帖数: 398 | 22 > 好像我们同事提到过一个什么 civilian military program
> 必须是citizen才可以参加的，还有什么具体好处吗？
Civilian Marksmanship Program
http://www.odcmp.com
美國政府支持的民間組織
用意是寓兵於民 所以規定只有公民才能參加
這是平價購買M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M1903等老槍的一個好管道 |
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r****s
发帖数: 66 | 25 这个未必，M16也分carbine和rifle，有不同版本，最普遍的还是16英寸枪管。
可以说M4，M16和AR15都是同一种枪在不同时期不同场合的不同称呼而已。 |
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M***H
发帖数: 398 | 26 M4出現之前
就有以M16為基礎開發的XM177卡賓槍
但是官方名稱並沒有M16 Carbine
M16家族各軍用型號 也沒用過16吋槍管 |
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t*****8
发帖数: 1274 | 27 另一个deal,貌似更好...从哪里冒出来这么多不锈钢管子啊...
Everything but the lower receiver. Get the kit here.
http://jsgunparts.com/store/
不过网站好像down了...
You can get a stripped lower for $59.95. That gets you a black gun for $529.
95 + S&H.
Includes:
Complete Flat Top 16" .223/5.56 M-4 Upper Receiver
Complete DPMS Mil-Spec Lower Receiver Parts Kit w/Standard Pistol Grip
Complete M-4 Collapsing 6 Position Stock Assembly
Upper Receiver Specs:
Billet Upper Receiver Complete with Charging Handle, Bolt & Carrier Group,
Hea... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 28 看到了一篇给Sabre Defence M4写的review，跟大家分享一下：
http://www.gunsmagazine.com/webextra0111.html
I impatiently waited six weeks for my Sabre Defence M4 sample to arrive,
however, the wait was well worth it. The XR15A3 arrived in an Allen
padded rifle case, along with two, 30-rd magazines, and an Otis compact
cleaning kit. The M4 was everything I had hoped it would be, and as
already mentioned, about as close as possible to the genuine military M4
configuration one could hope for.
I also appreciated the CNC... 阅读全帖 |
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f****a
发帖数: 4708 | 29 我的middy upper就是sabre defense的。其他都好，就是BCG不是FA的，bolt只有MPI
batch test。
他家的lower的stock是commercial的，这个比较不好，换stock麻烦。 |
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f****a
发帖数: 4708 | 30 http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/MGMOESTOCKKITBLK.aspx
MAGPUL MOE Stock Kit Milspec - Black $60 + S&H
Kit includes MAGPUL MOE milspec stock, mil-spec buffer tube, latch plate,
nut, buffer spring and carbine buffer. MOE stock includes buttpad.
带tube, buffer, spring的。 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 31 那些不是M1 garand是M1 carbine, 越南女兵一米四，扛不动garand. 你看1911拿他们
手里多大。南越女兵拿着1911, 都想着美国兵裆里的大枪。 |
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t*****8
发帖数: 1274 | 32 Complete AR-15 kit for $499. THIS COMES WITH EVERYTHING TO HAVE A
FUNCTIONING RIFLE. It is all made by Del-Ton.
It comes with an M4 1:9 Chrome-Moly barrel with M4 feed ramps. It has a
"F" marked front sight base. It will shoot both 5.56 and .223. The stock
is a 6 position carbine. It comes with one mil-spec magazine. And yes, it
does come with a Del-Ton lower receiver. The T-marked flattop upper has
been assembled and test fired by a professional gunsmith.
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 33 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411540459
Panther Oracle 5.56x45mm/.223 Remington 16 Inch Lite Contour Barrel A2
Flash Hider A2 Pistol Grip 6-Position Telescoping Pardus Stock 30 Round
Sixteen inch chrome-moly steel lite contour barrel. Six grooves, right
hand. A2 flash hider, Single-rail gas block. One in nine button rifled
twist. Upper receiver: forged A3 Picatinny rail flattop, T-marked,
aircraft aluminum alloy, dust cover, shell deflector, round forward
assist... 阅读全帖 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 36 我的CZ 527 CARBINE显然是内膛镀铬的，
锃亮而且打腐蚀性的军剩弹不马上擦不生锈 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 37 JEFF COOPER
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper
提出的一个概念枪，SCOUT RIFLE
要点是
短管，
瞄准具在枪栓之前，便于快速射击
保持iron sight
口径可以大，保证有足够的杀伤力
http://www.bobtuley.com/jeffcooper.htm
The Scout Rifle Concept
The Scout Rifle concept is the successful result of the efforts of many
under the leadership of Colonel Cooper to build a better rifle. The Scout
Rifle concept describes a light weight, carbine length, general purpose
rifle chambered in .308 Winchester with a high quality scope mounted far
forward. Prototyp... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 38 http://www.jetguns.com/bushmstr-bcwa1f14m4am-m4a1-16in-p-2623.h
M4 Profile 14.5 inch barrel (designed originally to accept the military
M203 Grenade Launcher) with permanently attached Phantom Flash Suppressor
for a total barrel length of just over 16 inches.
Hard chrome lined in both bore and chamber for long life and ease of
cleaning. Six position tele-stock is fitted - when retracted, carbine
length decreases by 4 inches for convenient handling/storage.
Upper receiver is in original A1 config... 阅读全帖 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 39 我的是CZ 527 CARBINE 栓动
就是想看看这个枪精度到底能到多高，其实这个做游猎的枪
不错，轻，后坐力小。
但是没有实践考验过，不知道这个弹种杀伤力如何
药再好也没用。加 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 41 我一直对栓动的7.62X39猎枪很感兴趣，但是这个口径造
栓动很少，CZ 527是为数不多的厂子之一
虽然买了有些日子，但是都没有怎么好好打，
正好周六上靶场的时候，打308时候，需要把枪放凉
空隙时间正好可以打打CZ。
测试时候是下午，微风，100码
用的子弹是 拔军弹或者商业弹，换上HORNADY V-MAX
123GR弹头，装药和其他都是商弹效果
1.MFS2000 商弹，换上V-MAX 123GR
结果很惨，2.7"，我于是没有了兴趣，照片都不想拍
2.Yugoslavia 军弹+ HORNADY VMAX 123GR
1.64",1.3MOA
1.19"，0.9MOA
3.PMC 7.62X39 123GR, FMJ
这个子弹本来是想买回来攒弹壳的，效果居然还不错
最好的一组，1.45", 1.15MOA
换弹头我都没有重新称药，看来不能偷懒，这个结果
不是很好，以后有机会，得用仔细装的子弹测试下 |
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 42 嗯，7.62X39的弹药一直都是问题，所以造成AK47系列准头差的印象
期待你真正的自装弹打出更好成绩 |
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M*******n
发帖数: 1165 | 43 一看到这枪我就联想到东欧的民兵，宣传图木托看着纹路很漂亮，给你自己的照长相传
上来看看吧。
这子弹打精度困难吧? |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 44 我被第一组的MFS搞到没有心情，
所以YUGO原厂弹和原厂拔头称重后从新组装弹我都没打
下次去严肃测试一下 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 45 这个子弹打精度就是想看看到底能多好，
不能和308这样的东西相比较
照片还没有想好背景，弄好了一定上传看看 |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 49 BARS-4-1现在买不到吧？
另外我记得ruger还有一款也是这个口径的 |
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x*7
发帖数: 11281 | 50 乳鸽的以前不是传言有.30bore的问题，
所以比较抵制
而且听说乳鸽的枪也不是很准
最近查过这个SAVAGE 10FCM 7.62X39，好像说
也是 308的枪管 |
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