N*******r
发帖数: 935 | 1 大意是：
Cersei说你打下来临冬城，你要什么？
小指头说我做北方的王
Cersei说好，我今晚就告诉国王，走手续，然后说我知道你说话算数，我要看到Sansa
的头挂在矛上。
下一步小指头就是要要求临冬城，杀Sansa和Snow? |
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发帖数: 6806 | 2 现在cersei什么情形小指头不会不知道，就算他杀了sansa或snow, 也跟cersei没有关
系，完全是自己的盘算。 |
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l****e
发帖数: 1718 | 4 现场演员真是有福利，近距离看这个美女裸奔，的确比看cersei好多了 |
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k**0
发帖数: 19737 | 5 Cersei现在自身难保，小指头一切尽在掌握中，会继续观望。
Sansa |
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N*******r
发帖数: 935 | 6 谈的协议，怎么能不算数呢？
Cersei认为Sansa杀死了她儿子，恨死她了。 |
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N*******r
发帖数: 935 | 7 预言说的明明白白， 只是Cersei认为是小恶魔，没想到其实是帅兄弟。 |
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发帖数: 551 | 8 season 8, episode 1
Scene 1
Aftermath of the Night King’s attack on Eastwatch By The Sea. Tormund and
Gendry are able flee the scene. Undead Viserion sets Crows and Undead afire.
Lord Beric Dondarrion stays behind to fight the White Walkers (dies off-
screen?), but not before killing the White Walker that killed Edd. Edd is
stabbed to death by a White Walker. Tormund and Gendry ride for Winterfell,
whilst we see a burning Castle Black in the background.
Scene 2
Daenerys, Jon, Tyrion, Davos, Jora... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10693 | 10 Game of Thrones ep5观后感，
那段关于17 years的对话整个一《革命之路》的冰火版。
Cersei: What was she like?
Silence
King Robert: You've never asked about her, not once. Why not?
Cersei: At first, just saying her name even in private felt like I was
breathing life back into her. I thought if I didn't talk about her, she'd
just fade away for you. When I realized that wasn't going to happen, I
refused to ask out of spite.I don't want to give you the satisfaction of
thinking I cared enough to ask. And eventually it became cle... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 17520 | 11 reddit 上有讨论的
Q:I mean in the Battle of Blackwater. Everyone lauds Tyrion for his
ingenuity about using the wildfire to destroy Stannis' fleet, but wasn't
Cersei the one who first started the production of wildfire? She was already
planning to use the wildfire to attack Stannis, right?
Tyrion just took charge of producing the wildfire and used it towards his
ends. He executed it brilliantly, but why don't they give Cersei credit for
coming up with the idea?
top A
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发帖数: 1315 | 12 After 606 08
Lady Crane: My final speech is shit. But to be fair to myself, which I
always like to be, the writing's no good.
Arya: So change it. It would all just be farting, belching, and slapping
without you.
Lady Crane: How would you change it?
Arya: The queen loves her son more than anything. And he was taken from her
before she could say good-bye.
She wouldn't just cry. she would be angry. she would want to kill the person
who did this to her. ( Who's she? Cersei? Arya? )
Lady Crane: What'... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 13 6. Cersei, Qyburn, Mountain
Cersei的路线：文靠Qyburn，武靠Mountain。
感觉Cersei要崛起了，踏上逆袭之路。
开始王权和神权的较量，High Sparrow会被打倒吗？
Qyburn：
曾是一名学士,因为从事一些不道德的活体实验，被学城剥夺了学士项链和头衔。 曾以
惊人的医术治疗Jaime的断手，阻止了伤口感染。 通过生化实验，复活了Mountain。
Mountain：
效忠Cersei的一个生化战士。 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 14 2. 玫瑰狮子终合作
虽然High Sparrow的迅速崛起正是玫瑰和狮子相互斗争的结果，但是玫瑰和狮子却都因
High Sparrow而成了最大受害者: Cersei,Margaery,Loras相继被High Sparrow冠以罪
名，要认罪，要赎罪，要walk of the shame，还要trial。。。
Cersei的trial暂时没有动静，Cersei和Jaime也只急于处理Myrcella的死和对付Dorne
，
但也只能是干着急，small council没有他们的立足之地，Tommen又被High Sparrow盅
惑，谁会听他们的?
如果现在Cersei转支持small council，支持玫瑰，一起对付High Sparrow，也是不错
的选择。 |
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发帖数: 11693 | 15 很期待看daenerys 和 cersei会不会有对手戏 这两个女人斗法撕逼一定很有意思
daenerys比她年轻 比她hot 比她有法力 比她有rightful claim of the throne 比她
有忠诚的左膀右臂 比她有男人 cersei能使唤个frankenstein daenerys使唤的是龙 相
比之下 cersei简直弱爆了
cersei这个具有超强嫉妒心和权势欲的女人 怎么受得了其他女人在她之上 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 16 3. 狮子+玫瑰+麻雀 闹 King's Landing
先看看之前：
1) High Sparrow告诉了Tommen什么，而604里Tommen又转告给了Cersei。
2) 604里Cersei和Tommen对话时戴的戒指正是Joffrey死前所戴，而604里这段的背景音
乐'the rains of castamere'也在Joffrey死前婚礼上演奏过 （Stark家的血婚上也有
这段音乐）。
所以推测其一：
High Sparrow告诉了Tommen是玫瑰家害死了Joffrey。604里Cersei和Jaime知道后，想
报复玫瑰，以帮玫瑰为名让玫瑰家出兵针对High Sparrow，一举两得。
High Sparrow从何而知是玫瑰家害死Joffrey?
604里High Sparrow给小玫瑰Margeary讲的那个他为什么赤脚哇啦哇啦的故事（跟以前
他给Cersei讲他为什么赤脚的说法有出入），并没有对Margeary起到足够洗脑作用，所
以他让Margeary去见了Loras，而我们看到的是一个彻底放弃颓废不堪的Loras，这让
Margeary直接受到了影响。
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发帖数: 70 | 17 Ned是典型的一把王牌打成一坨屎，他一共有三次机会干翻Lannisters。第一次，当他
查出Joffery是乱伦野种的时候没有飞马直报Robert，而是找Cersei谈心，间接促使
Cersei弄死Robert，有人说Ned是妇人之仁，这简直贬低了妇人，因为Cersei比他强多
了； 第二次，Robert垂死之际，Varys暗中提示Ned谁是元凶，Ned懵懂不知，后来
Renly提出先下手为强，Ned拒绝，认为搞阴谋不体面。导致Renly出奔后来被Stannis杀
死； 第三次，littlefinger建议立Joffery为傀儡国王，从长计议。 但是Ned坚持
Stannis拥有正统。 可惜Stannis做国王对谁都没好处，因此注定没有人会支持。
Littlefinger因此看穿了Ned是个白痴，一定会失败，及时跳到了另一条船上，这不能
怪littlefinger，他其实已经尽力了，可是谁会陪着一个白痴去死。这一次ned把自己
和几十名精英卫兵送上了西天,最后把robb，Catlyn和成千上万的士兵也送走。 Ned这
个猪一样的队友害死了一批又一批的队友，死的毫不足惜。 政治生活中的... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 17520 | 18 电视最大的困难就是不能够像书那样 introduce 很多人物
砍掉了很多枝节， 主要演员有更多的戏， 不过书里兜一圈， 在电视里
也发展到该发展的地方了， Wikia 上我看了一圈season 4 和书的不同
其实殊途同归， 各种不同随着人死也就没啥了。。。嘿嘿
以下是我摘于wikia觉得值得一提的改动
First of His Name
Lysa only reveals she was the one to kill Jon Arryn much later in the
books, and Sansa was actually present when it happened.
-估计以后Petyr会直接和Sansa说是他们干的。
或者这件事对于Sansa来说已经不重要了， 电视里Sansa变地比书里面要快
The gold mines of the Westerlands had not run dry in the books, they
were as prosperous as ever.
The crown's debt wa... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 19 3. Little Finger
GOT的游戏高手又来了。
从GOT一开始的Jon Arryn之死，刺杀Bran，Ned的死，到Jaime的断手，Joffrey的死，
Sansa落入Bolton，再到Cersei Margaery Loras被High Sparrow抓，这一系列事件，
Little Finger一直都是幕后的推手。
在小指头和玫瑰联手毒死Joffrey后，Sansa和Tyrion成了狮子家的重点怀疑凶手。小指
头暗中帮Sansa顺利离开King's Landing，一面花言巧语促成了Sansa嫁Ramsay，送
Sansa羊入虎口；另一面告诉狮子Sansa在Bolton家，狮子答应他如果他顺利收拾Bolton
拿下Sansa人头，就让他作Warden of the North.
Game of Thrones 5x06
Petyr Baelish returns to King's Landing & meets with Cersei
Petyr and Cersei "Name me Warden of the North. "
https://www.youtu... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 15334 | 20 Cersei是自作孽啊，她本来就没有武装了，想扶持这帮人作为自己的武装。结果
backfire了。Tomman毕竟还是个小孩，根本不知道怎么处理这个事。现在的
狮子家不是Tomman也不是Cersei做主，是Kevan Lannister在做主，跟他们
并不是特别亲密。鹿家四分五裂，也指望不上。实际上Cersei目前是很powerless
的，所以才只能鼓动玫瑰家出兵。Kevan根本指望不上。 |
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发帖数: 11693 | 21 tommen好像没有告诉cersei吧，他要说的时候cersei阻止了。。。。
high sparrow没有那么傻，一定是在设圈套给这帮人钻，最后揭遍他们所有人的丑，无
脑cersei就真钻，完了tommen会死 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 22 604 里没演出来，但从他们的对话
Tommen: Mother... There's something I want to tell you. Something the High
Sparrow told me.
Cersei: You've spoken with him?
Tommen: I promised him I wouldn't tell anyone. If he found out I told ---
Cersei:
It would be a breach of confidence which he would not take lightly given his
constant prattling about the truth.
I am your mother. You can always trust me.
最后一句: You can always trust me. Tommen应该是告诉Cersei了。 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 23 1. The Broken Man -- suggesting the Hound's return?
冰火系列小说第四卷"A Feast for Crows"里，有一个著名的关于war和broken men的
Speech，Septon Meribald gave the speech，the broken man could be the Hound.
附the broken men speech:
http://genius.com/George-r-r-martin-a-feast-for-crows-brienne-v-broken-men-speech-annotated
Hound面容吓人，身形高大，勇猛。小时候拿哥哥Mountain的玩具，被Mountain按入火
盆烧毁了半边脸，自此怕火，恨Mountain。
他本来很向往做一个knight，向往骑士精神，他哥哥Mountain就是knight，是当时的
prince Rhaegar亲自册封，但后来Robert's Rebellion时，Mountain 却 rape了Elia
Martell - Rhaegar's ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 24 看着像是Cersei带着Qyburn和Mountain去铁王座大殿，他们阻止不让去，估计是Cersei
的trial但不让Cersei带保镖去 |
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发帖数: 82482 | 25 【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区 】
发信人: Runzhi (石三伢子), 信区: History
标 题: Ned就是曹爽
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 7 12:01:57 2014, 美东)
Ned是典型的一把王牌打成一坨屎，他一共有三次机会干翻Lannisters。第一次，当他
查出Joffery是乱伦野种的时候没有飞马直报Robert，而是找Cersei谈心，间接促使
Cersei弄死Robert，有人说Ned是妇人之仁，这简直贬低了妇人，因为Cersei比他强多
了； 第二次，Robert垂死之际，Varys暗中提示Ned谁是元凶，Ned懵懂不知，后来
Renly提出先下手为强，Ned拒绝，认为搞阴谋不体面。导致Renly出奔后来被Stannis杀
死； 第三次，littlefinger建议立Joffery为傀儡国王，从长计议。 但是Ned坚持
Stannis拥有正统。 可惜Stannis做国王对谁都没好处，因此注定没有人会支持。
Littlefinger因此看穿了Ned是个白痴，一定会失败，及时跳到了另一条船上，这不能
怪littlefi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 911 | 26 看了，我觉得挺合理的啊
Rape才更能表现出Cersei的失子之痛
以及Jaime对Cersei的爱恨交织
表明两人的感情裂痕、三观分歧等问题的激化
关键是让观众看了之后觉得恶心难受，这不是马丁老爷子的追求么 |
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k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 27 cersei本来是不错，不过新婚夜Robert喝醉了，躺床上喊着Lyanna的名字。
cersei立马心凉了。 |
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 28 小时候有个女巫给了预言
Cersei: When will I wed the prince?
Maggy: Never. You will wed the king.
Cersei: I will be queen, though?
Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and
more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.
所以，跟儿媳妇一直有仇 |
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a******a
发帖数: 1137 | 29 其实很多人是有原则的，大多数原则就是为自己或者为自己的家族
jamie在那种情况下挺到最后一刻才背信疯王已经很不容易了
而且他算是救了全城的百姓，但是没有让任何人知道
人物性格比较复杂，不能完全用有没有原则来形容
（基本可以这么理解，在cersei抛弃他之前他是爱情第一，家族第二，荣誉第三，他为
了爱情抛弃家族，但是当家族受到威胁时，他选择家族抛弃荣誉。直到cersei抛弃他之
后（还有美人感化的原因），他开始重新捡起荣誉。这是所谓的从疯狂向伟大的转变） |
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发帖数: 47 | 30 最喜欢的 - Cersei Lena Headey演技超赞的哈，就是总是在社交网络上剧透 嘿嘿 最
喜欢看她和Natalie Dormer (Margaery) 飚戏
次喜欢的 - 荆棘女王 玛格丽的奶奶。老戏骨 台风很赞 台词也很犀利。唯一一个能让
Tyrion忍气吞声的人
然后就没什么顺序的列一下觉得演技还不错的一帮人：
Bronn - 演员本来是歌手 他的多恩小调唱的还真好
Natalie Dormer - 刚提到了 小玫瑰玛格丽的演员
Jaqen Hghar 的演员 - 酷酷的 充满神秘 A man knows what a girl is thinking
Sansa的演员越来越入戏。长的个子可真高
Lysa Arryn 把这个疯女人演的真是出神入化。不得不赞GoT的选角也是费了好多功夫
Carice Van Houton - Mellisandre的扮演者 - 据说最一开始试镜Cersei.后来出演红
袍女巫。很不错。上一集把人恨得牙痒痒
演妓女Shae的演员 - 据说小时候震荡过妓女，也算本色出演了 呵呵
另外大家经常提到的龙女 小矮子 女骑士 少狼主 等等我都同意就不细... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 31 GoT的主题就是Everyone must die:-（
女角色也是惨的惨死像石心夫人和她姐姐那样的;虐的虐死像Cersei Sansa Arya。
第六季感觉Cersei和Sansa要崛起，Dany要受虐。
些。 |
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o**a
发帖数: 1315 | 32 感觉prophecy的都会发生。
书里是除了预言Cersei的三个孩子都金袍裹尸外，还说她自己会被她的brother掐死，
这个剧里砍了好像。
Tommen应给不会这么快挂掉，第六季出来的trailer里有Mountain收拾high sparrow的
镜头，Mountain是效忠Cersei的。 |
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o**a
发帖数: 1315 | 33 Cersei的trial
trial by combat，Mountain会对阵谁呢？
另外Qyburn最后看向Cersei的眼神感觉不太对啊(⊙o⊙) |
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发帖数: 1315 | 34 1. The Hound会回来吗？
The Hound目前在GOT的状态是生死未知，最后出现在第四季，护送Arya去The Vale，后
来遇上寻找Arya和Sansa的Brienne。Hound和Brienne打斗中被Brienne咬下一只耳朵，
从峭壁上摔落，断了腿，加之脖子上伤口感染。Hound让Arya杀了他想死个痛快，Arya
拒绝了。
GOT 603里, Cersei和Jaime的对话中，预示着会有一场trial by combat，Mountain代
表Cersei等的王室一方，而谁来代表High Sparrow等的Faith一方呢？
这不由让书粉和剧粉对Cleganebowl有了期待：
Gregor Clegane The Mountain
vs
Sandor Clegane The Hound
还有GOT 603里的Arya线，Hound也多次被提起。
而604的标题中的Stranger又多少让人想起Hound的坐骑。
觉得Hound回归还是很有可能的。 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 35 Cersei是无助的，因为Kevan和Tommen那是不敢，或者说好听点是大局为重，不是不能。
可别以为Cersei是真心为了玫瑰家着想。
聪明反被聪明误可能就会发生在她身上。 |
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发帖数: 31 | 36 别的地方看到的：Tommen跟Cersei说high sparrow说是老太太下毒搞死的joffrey. 所
以cersei鼓动老太太攻打high sparrow. 让他们两败俱伤。 |
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o**a
发帖数: 1315 | 37 6. 也写写 Queen Margaery
GOT里的新一代女性游戏高手。女版Little Finger候选人。
聪明 美丽 出身高贵 礼貌优雅 善良 亲民。
受祖母教导影响，颇有手腕，会玩政治，极具权力欲望，极具野心。
Petyr Baelish: "Do you want to be a queen?"
Margaery Tyrell: "No. I want to be the Queen."
Tyrell家所在地Highgarden土地富饶兵强马壮，这使得剧中每一个有王室欲望的都想和
玫瑰家结盟:-)
Robert Baratheon死后，弟弟Renly娶Margaery，与玫瑰家联手，自封为王，不料被兄
Stannis和红女Melisandre的影子魔法所杀。
欲夺取Joffrey王座的Stannis发动了黑水河之战，Tyrion、Tywin、Loras联合打败
Stannis。之后，Loras提出Joffrey娶Margaery（事实上Little Finger和king's
landing方面早已在暗中促使联姻），以巩固狮子玫瑰两家联盟，Joffrey愉快地弃
Sansa... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1315 | 38 6. Who's the new target of High Sparrow?
觉得High Sparrow的重点斗争对象还是狮子家，尤其Cersei，
Qyburn
The Mountain
这两个Cersei的左膀右臂会不会成为麻雀的下一个目标？
或者
Kevan Lannister?
Olenna Tyrell? |
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t*****d
发帖数: 525 | 39 按照Cersei的性格和《权力的游戏》的尿性，Cersei肯定有一手超级牛逼的底牌。我猜
想的这张底牌是：
她要用野火炸掉整个君临城，拉大麻雀、提利尔家族、和自己的儿子同归于尽！ |
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发帖数: 1315 | 40 608 Preview 中的音频对话部分
Lancel: Order your men to step aside, or there will be violence.
Cersei: I choose violence.
Brienne to Jaime:
Should I fail to persuade the Blackfish to surrender, and if you attack the
castle, honor compels me to fight you.
Jaime to Edmure:
I love Cersei and if I have to slaughter every Tully who ever lived to get
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发帖数: 1315 | 41 After 608 03
3 questions
1) What rumor were Cersei and Qyburn talking about?
Qyburn: Your Grace... that old rumor you told me about... my little birds
investigated.
Cersei: And? Was it just a rumor or something more?
Qyburn: More. Much more.
2) Is Hound going North with Beric and Thoros for fighting white walkers?
Thoros: The Lord of Light is keeping Beric alive for a reason.
He gave a failed, drunk priest the power to bring him back for a reason.
We are part of something larger than ourselves.
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o**a
发帖数: 1315 | 42 值得八卦一下的是，这5个人签了第八季:
Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion;
Dany;
Jon.
Cersei和Jaime的命还蛮长的嘛:-):-) 不会轻易狗带:-):-):-) |
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k**0
发帖数: 19737 | 43 好像在看教父 1，Cersei就是Al Pacino。。。。
不过这一集很好看，剧情感人。
Cersei的心肠终于变得很硬， 对小P孩没有眼泪了。
玫瑰家全灭！只剩下老太太，太惨了
Varys怎么会出现在Dorne? 奇怪。
Arya这段太强塞了，也许是要省钱，不准备再请那几个群众演员
小指头果然是个老色鬼, 不过泡妞失败，哇哈哈哈哈
Jon这一集里终于像个领导了， 期待下一季打白鬼。
还有，作为一个中年大叔， 我觉得熊岛小妹妹很可爱。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 44 应该是jamie杀死的cersei吧 - Jamie当年因为mad king要把城市炸了所以把人杀了，
这次杀个mad queen也不是不可以。
Cersei的预言是她的little brother会杀了她，如果是tyrion会不会太简单了。 |
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o**a
发帖数: 1315 | 45 GOT再次获得最多提名：
1. Best Drama
2. Best supporting actor:
Peter Dinklage -- Tyrion Lannister
Kit Harington -- Jon Snow
3. Best supporting actress:
Emilia Clarke -- Dany
Lena Headey -- Cersei
Maisie Williams -- Arya
4. Best guest actor
Max von Sydow -- the three eyed raven
5. Best Writing for a Drama Series
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赌Cersei和Dany谁会获奖？ |
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发帖数: 935 | 46 是Jon把剑插入龙女的胸膛还是龙女把剑插入Jon的胸膛？
不管谁死都是悲催，都是做嫁衣裳。Jon和龙女都是辛辛苦苦一辈子。
估计是Jon死，因为预言说了一个更漂亮年轻的代替Cersei.
Cersei 应该就是被Jaime搞掉，被自己兄弟杀掉么。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 47 龙女和囧联合，cersei不顾大义非得搞小动作，jamie为了顾全大义，再次弑君，把
cersei干掉，然后jamie，龙女，囧（狮子，龙，狼）联合其他一众小动物们再次北上
，抵御异鬼
Sansa作为权衡，在kings landing看家
然后所有人战死，sansa给大家筑碑立说，登上铁王座 |
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发帖数: 82482 | 48 想起一段quote, tyrell家的老太太olenna：
"Game of Thrones: Second Sons (#3.8)" (2013)
[at the wedding of Sansa and Tyrion, Olenna Tyrell sums up the complex
family tree that will result from the impending marriages of Joffrey,
Margaery, Loras and Cersei]
Lady Olenna Tyrell: [to Loras] So, their son will be your nephew after you'
re wed to Cersei, of course. And you will be the king's stepfather and
brother-in-law.
[Loras looks annoyed and upset. He does not respond]
Lady Olenna Tyrell: [to Margaery] When y... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1978 | 49 Cersei is stupid, cruel, and greedy. She got what she deserved. She will get
herself killed.
Petyr Baelish said: "Cersei, for one. She thinks herself sly, but in truth
she is utterly predicatable. Her strength rests on her beauty, birth, and
riches. Only the first of those is truly her own, and will soon desert her.
I pity her then. She wants power, but has no notion what to do with it when
she gets it. Everyone wants something, Alayne. And when you know what a man
wants you know who he is, and ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25262 | 50 Because you think you have a high moral standard, based on that, you start
to judge, and criticize what's wrong, and what's right.
Unfortunately, The character Cersei doesn't attract your "favorite"
attention. Everyone is greedy in the show. They just try to get what the
best for themselves, in this case, Cersei does want to keep the power for
her family. As a mother, I think she does pretty well to protect her
children from any harm.
Isn't it something can be reflected in real life? Most pare... 阅读全帖 |
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