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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 2 The guy who posted that comment is most likely someone who works for a "name
brand" company. Who would otherwise regularly visit those factories,
scrutinize their management, and bash the ISO9002 process?
Bottom line is, as far as for all the people racing on these no name frames
(myself included, pedalforce), I have yet to see a single post about such a
no-name frame cracking during race.
On the contrary, I personally know a guy who has cracked two Cervelo frames,
and he is not a racer.
arou |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 3 就我目前在 bikeforum 等地方看到的，还没有伤亡报道。现在很多人
以给这种车贴牌为生，还有人骑着它去比赛。（我自己是会骑 P1 上阵）
再者，我们的力量远不到可以把车架逼到近 spec 极限的程度（我可不是
Thor,力量那么大还敢骑 cervelo 的 prototype).
最后，近十年只有一人在 Tour 下坡时车子坏掉摔残了，他的名字是
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 4 等咱有钱了，要买 Cervelo 就买两，骑一台丢一台。
Seriously, 要 carbon 不如自己装山寨。我公司现在
已经有两人随我脚步开装山寨 carbon 了。 |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 5 youtube 上有好些人骑 Cervelo T3 在 roller 上狂干的影片。还是让我
想起了毛片的岁月。 |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 6 我个人认为有牌车里面性能+价格+个性最好的仍是 Cervelo. 上 S2/S3 吧。
btw， 我在台湾看到的 Pinarello 比在美国还多。台巴子钱多人傻。
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 7 俺何尝不想骑个 Cervelo R3，再买个 S1 做 rain bike, 大小调整扁胎都扔车店，
俺专心享受加州阳光呢? 很不幸的，娶妻生子买房以后你的钱和你的人生都不是你的了。
any
grounded
bike.
are
you
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 8 dude, 大彻大悟 is about wisdom, 山寨 is about intelligence. there is no
conflict! If you are talking about knock off, which one of the current aero
bikes is not in a way a knock off of cervelo?
what China is providing to this world is a revolution! welcome to 21st
century! |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 9 他们应该把cervelo的前三角和pinarello的后三角拼起来，加上波浪前叉，我肯定买。 |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 11 how much more roughly do you need to get a full 105 bike from this frame?
assume rests, such as seat stay, are all carbon?
(1100g |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 12 you can spec out the entire bike on the pedal force website. |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 13 为啥我看到的是 $800?
btw，为何要 105? 如果我现在要买新 groupset，我一定会买 SRAM Rival.
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 14 Rival would be my pick too. but there isn't anything really wrong with 105
other than the rings. |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 15 At the order page, if there are more than 40 orders, the price drops to $600. |
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O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 16 What's wrong with 105 rings? |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 17 the stamped ring is not as durable, is more flexible under strong pedal
force, and doesn't shift as well as more precisely made and stiffer rings,
especially under load. I use 105 rings on my motobecane (with an ultegra
crank) though because I love the 50/39 rings (for cheap too). I think the
difference is more psych than practical. I just don't like them because they
are not high quality.
on the other hand, I have salsa rings on my MASI. they don't shift as well,
but I love them, beautifully ma |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 19 thanks, i haven't made up my mind yet, since I still spent most of my time
running, only ride to commute. |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 20 frameset 还是整车？ 整车 $1200 太不可思议了。全新的山寨 frameset + ultegra +
wheelset + 零零碎碎 $1200 也很难拿下。
frameset $1200 我宁可去搞 Cervelo. |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 21 frameset. I haven't seen a $1200 cervelo. But a $1600 new R3 you mentioned
last time is a good buy also, I think. It all boils down to one's budget. I
am still pretty happy with my $275 le champion sl frameset.
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 22 在一些细节上他和 Cervelo RS 还是不同的，如 seatstay 的分叉。不过我昨天
ride 半路上去看了很多台 RS，觉得这两台除掉细节，headtube 处实在不是普通像。 |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 23 还有一问题：这线的 stiffness 显然比钢线小，所以像 Cervelo 这种
internal cable routing 是不是会装得很痛苦？ |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 24 Thanks, I will check out Cervelo S1. PB free shipping, including the
membership free 2nd business day does not including oversize charge. So
basically, the shipping is free for regular, you still have to pay the
extra $30 oversize charge. It is the same $30 (starting) shipping to your
home or to the store, and neither is refundable. |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 25 54cm tt with 74 st angle is exactly the same frame as 55cm tt with 73 st
angle. the only difference is the first allows you to seat more forward and
the later allows you to sit back a bit. and normally the first one is marked
as a smaller size with a shorter head tube. you should read this if you
really want to understand this.
http://www.cervelo.com/en_us/engineering/tech-presentations/
click on Geometry & Fit
when you determine bike fit, the first step and the most important part is
the saddle |
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J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 26 服装如何? 对几套Pearl Izumi 和 Cervelo的套装流口水中 |
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c*******s
发帖数: 1501 | 28 我没用过fens，不过想来比同配置105的trek和specialized便宜这么多，估计肯定得有
些部件上配的差一些。总的来说，性价比还是可以的。
实际上，我觉得架子和轮子是不是stiff还是挺重要的，我试过一次cervelo S1的铝架
，个人感觉比我自己trek 1系列的铝架要更stiff，同样是铝架，感觉差别还是挺明显
的。saddle也很重要，geometry不好的saddle骑起来就是折磨啊。 |
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a****t
发帖数: 720 | 29 前两天相中了一辆Cervelo s1，要是当时拿下了，今天会更有意思一点。 |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 30 My vote:
Straight fork? Yes
Oval ISP? No
Outside clamp (not light, and ugly)? or internal mini seatpost (pretty, but
even heavier)? Internal
Aero tubing? Round tubing? Round tubing. Aero tubing looks too much like a
Cervelo wannabe.
Now the question is, what's the color for the frame, and what paint scheme?? |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 31 就 51cm 的来说，head tube 比较长。你喜欢像 Cervelo RS 那样高高的脑袋？
我比较喜欢低脑袋。 |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 32 My vote:
Straight fork? Yes
Oval ISP? No
Outside clamp (not light, and ugly)? or internal mini seatpost (pretty, but
even heavier)? Internal
Aero tubing? Round tubing? Round tubing. Aero tubing looks too much like a
Cervelo wannabe.
Now the question is, what's the color for the frame, and what paint scheme?? |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 33 就 51cm 的来说，head tube 比较长。你喜欢像 Cervelo RS 那样高高的脑袋？
我比较喜欢低脑袋。 |
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b******n
发帖数: 1269 | 34 There you go. The regular carbon version is priced at US$1100, and HM
carbon version at $1700. Will do US$770/1100 for the Cycling Board (ID
registered before end of 2011). Regular version is around 1150g, HM version
around 900-950g. My Proto 1 was 893g.
Would be nice to get 5+ frames to make shipping more economical.
The idea is simple, China is known of making cheap crap and copying European
ideas. Any attempt to improve that image is basically fighting against the
tides. Further dilut... 阅读全帖 |
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r******s
发帖数: 3662 | 35 stage0：我们学校队里cat3的人都能骑赞助的cervelo sram red,所以还是好好骑，好
车自然会来的。 |
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s*******8
发帖数: 12734 | 36 在湖边骑了这么久，第一次见到这么好的车，logo太醒目了。
那娃胖乎乎的，一会儿超过了我，我心里一颤，哇，好高级啊。
心里有点失落，小弟的车是300刀从BD上买来的，人家丫的一个frame就3k多刀。
然后，眼看这娃慢慢远去，我心想不如超他一把。
于是，我动力来了，兹阿兹，全力加速，终于超了这家伙一把。
然后有放慢速度了。
这娃估计面子挂不住，然后拼了老命超了我。
哈哈哈。完了。 |
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r******s
发帖数: 3662 | 39 Nice job man, or girl... |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 40 For that price, you can get a Cervelo P1 Ultegra, wind-tunnel tested, tried
and true. Several years ago the same frame was used in world-class TT's and
was pretty much the reference frame. |
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T****i
发帖数: 142 | 41 http://www.slowtwitch.com/News/The_bikes_of_the_top_15_men_in_Kona_2010_1759.html
1. Chris McCormack
Australia
bike split: 4:31:51
bike: Specialized SHIV
size: L
aero bars: Integrated
drive train: SRAM Red
wheels: Zipp 808 Firecrest
saddle: Specialized 155 Romin
power meter: no
2. Andreas Raelert
Germany
bike split: 4:32:27
bike: Blue Triad SL 2011
size: MD (54)
aero bars: Aerus TriCarbon
drive train: Shimano Di-2
wheels: Shimano 75s
saddle: Fizik Arione Tri 2
pedals: Shimano
power meter: SRM
3.... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 42 cyclocross 112mi 19mph！！ 换上 Cervelo P3 + aero helmet + 从横大叔那抢来的
碳板
轮，搞不好会有 23mph。 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 43 不错！明年争取搞辆Cervelo。
骑车外交绝对惯用。我就是我们家的自行车外交官，跟我老婆前公司的大老板，现公司
的大老板，前公司的同事，现公司的同事都骑过车。老婆现在的大老板还专程把我们俩
和她另一自行车爱好者同事夫妻俩请到他家毫宅去共进晚餐讨论了一晚上的骑车。 |
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 46 what i am looking for：
买车目的：参加三项
骑车经验：无，基本不会骑rode bike（不会换挡）
计划：每周骑车上班一到两次，单程13迈，周末参加group ride
预算：越便宜越好，最好不超过2K，
期待标准：当然是最好105到ultegra，carbon folk or frame，lightweight，Tri-
friendly
在网上补了点课，今天去了我老板推荐的一家本地车店，我老板的劳工是多次铁人，每
年都参加全铁。他的车全是在这家买的，这家店在Yelp上好评如潮，所以就摸去了。
他家没有很多牌子，比如根本没有任何fuji，cannondale，cervelo，specialized等牌
子，只有四个牌子：Bianchi，Look，James，KHS。下午一共试骑了四辆车，分别是
James和Bianchi，分别有carbon，alumni和steel frame的不同型号，我目前比较喜欢
如下两款，当然都超出了我的预算（奶奶的，真实很难控制诱惑！！）
两款标准基本一样，是全carbon frame，都是Shimano ultegra
James的... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 47 It won’t take much of your time when physically building it up, but it do
take some times in research, study, know the specs, price, read the reviews
, etc. You have to have some bike specific tools to do that too. I have Park
tool AK-37 tool kit so basicly except headset overhaul or wheel building/
major truing, I can comfortably do anything on my bikes. And also when
custom build a bike you can choose the parts you like instead of the stocks
from the brand bike you bought. I spent all winter... 阅读全帖 |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 48 wow!!! 30watts!
it certainly addressed my major criticism of aero road bikes: bottle
http://s5.cervelo.com/ |
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f**********e
发帖数: 1994 | 49 Cervelo S5 took the first win (3rd stage) already. |
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