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发帖数: 39524 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 PhotoGear 讨论区 】
发信人: apolitical (无期徒刑), 信区: PhotoGear
标 题: jimmy kimmel used to be somewhat funny
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 24 12:59:02 2013, 美东)
nowadays he is just trying too hard for only futility. since you've all made
him so much more renowned, might as well take a look back at some old
highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfoF6MhgLA
comedy of truly epic proportions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIyLHsk2h4
this one will make some feel better, for better or worse
http://www.... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****u
发帖数: 7103 | 2 非常同意。我跟公司里老美的切入点就是为什么小朋友在教室里跟10来个同学说kill
other people不可以，反而在电视上跟millions of people说kill other people就成
了明星了？ kids learn from other kids。violence is an attitude. kids can
learn from school, from movies, and from comedy shows.
这个节目恶心的地方在于它让小朋友说这种话。小孩子的话都穿着innocent的外衣。所
以不管他是不是故意的，至少没有考虑中国人的感受，必须让他md吐血。 |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 3 华裔脱口秀明星黄西 （Joe Wong）号召大家抗议ABC Jimmy Kimmel脱口秀
华裔脱口秀明星黄西 （Joe Wong）在他的微薄写道
（微薄地址：http://weibo.com/joewong)：
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请大家签名抗议美国电视节目上对中国人的种族歧视：http://t.cn/zRIOkFo 只要有个邮箱和美国邮编就行。 谢谢。
北美的朋友们，到了付诸行动的时候了。大家都忙，但忙的目的是让自己和下一代生活
在一个对华人理解和尊重的社会里。请大家踊跃签名，踊跃参与！！
我是个做说笑秀的。但我是个中国人。有些人只敢拿作为少数弱势的华人开玩笑，却不
敢触及其他人种。为什么？因为他们得罪黑人或犹太人的时候后果要严重。得罪中国人
大家一带而过。
也请大家到ABC电视台网站上留下自己的感受。让他们知道华人在乎，华人有自己的声
音！
中国人在美国“宽容大度”了200年了，成就了今天这样一个被忽略的群体。在美国没
有声音就不存在。 在能投诉的地方都不投诉岂不更可悲？ 在美国绝大部分中国人是打
工的。餐馆，公司，学校。富官二代是少数，... 阅读全帖 |
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S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 4 这是个comedy
你去report 这个是不是合适？
但可以讲自己和小孩人身安全受到威胁
crime |
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o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 5 捐给 NPR。 他们最需要钱。 打电话／email to
http://www.npr.org/contact/totn.html
问他们： Disney ABC's comedy show fed hate speech to children, is that legal
or acceptable. Tell them we are organizing demonstration/boycott and ask
for coverage. |
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S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 6 我认为这个已经是官方道歉了
abcnews 不是全美国最大的news 网络之一
我看大家还是想下一步吧
再纠缠apology 未必好呢
究其量这个如npr 那个主持人所言
late night show 尤其comedy show的主持人就是被大家普遍当作clowns的 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 7 The boy's unscripted comment came during a comedy bit in which youngsters
commented on news events. The skit, aimed at poking fun at childish
politicians, aired last week on Kimmel's late-night talk show.
全把责任推给孩子了？！
JK和节目制作人的责任呢？ |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 8 LOS ANGELES (AP) — ABC is apologizing for a segment of "Jimmy Kimmel Live"
in which a child joked about killing Chinese people to help erase the U.S.
debt.
The boy's unscripted comment came during a comedy bit in which youngsters
commented on news events. The skit, aimed at poking fun at childish
politicians, aired last week on Kimmel's late-night talk show.
ABC's apology came in response to a complaint from a group called 80-20 that
identifies itself as a pan-Asian-American political organizati... 阅读全帖 |
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n******1
发帖数: 3756 | 9 ”The unscripted comment from a young boy came during a comedy bit where
kids comment on news events.“
基本看到都提到了，有些做成副标题 |
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发帖数: 639 | 10 从媒体发出的报道可以看出，他们很狡猾的强调"unscript"，"comedy", "child",就是
想把事情往小孩身上推，让我们投鼠忌器。
再游行的话应该大幅列出他的原话，Should we allow them to live? etc.
要点出他作为成人行事的distasteful. |
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i***a
发帖数: 195 | 11 这个评论不错！！！
http://entertainment.time.com/2013/10/28/kids-say-the-most-divi
LucindaWingsRia
I'm a fifteen year old California girl, born and raised in the Bay Area. I'm
proud to be an American.
But I also am proud of my Chinese heritage.
Look, I've always been a fan of Jimmy Kimmel. Really. But this obscene,
disgusting, offensive exchange definitely crossed a line.
Discrimination - whether against a certain gender, religion, sexuality,
class, ethnic group, or race, is NEVER okay. Since the beginni... 阅读全帖 |
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z******n
发帖数: 211 | 12 打ABC JK官司是必须的！
ABC 已向华人团体80-20认错，但他们想赖掉，想大事化小，小事化了，说这是即兴表
演中的处理失误。事实决非如此，这是事先预谋的。见网友发现的证据， 看看他们做
一个JK live时有多慎密：
It’s a very different style at ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live. “Every writer is
responsible for writing monologue jokes,” McNearney said, adding that, “
most nights, each writer usually has an assignment for a celebrity guest
coming on the show who wants to do a comedy bit [...] I would say Jimmy
Kimmel Live is known in the industry for putting together really smart,
funny pieces for their g... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18403 | 13 ShaLL we allow that to happen?
------------ Help put it back -----------------------------------
In the midst of Government shutdown, Jimmy Kimmel invited four young kids(6
yo) to his pre-recorded 10/16 night comedy skit to help solve problems.
Kimmel led with the question, "we owe the Chinese a lot of money, 1.3
trillion dollars", what to do? One little kid immediately launched into a
solution, which involved killing everyone in China. The audience (or
audience track) laughed at this and ... 阅读全帖 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 14 （谨以此帖，送给那些说中国人不懂幽默，电视台脱口秀没有底线，笑话没有界限的人）
我看这个喜剧的时候，只知道笑，并不知道有人会为此去游行示威。
现在想想，很简单，因为我不是波多黎各人。
波多黎各是美国的自治州，而且 NBC 的喜剧里也没有说要杀光波多黎各人。
NBC Apologizes for 'Seinfeld' Episode on the Puerto Rican Day Parade
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Faced with criticism from the leader of a Puerto Rican organization who
found the ''Seinfeld'' episode on Thursday insulting, NBC apologized
yesterday, saying it had not intended to offend anyone.
The second-to-last ''Seinfeld'' featured Jerry, Elaine, G... 阅读全帖 |
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w*****6
发帖数: 54 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: candyshop (糖果铺), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 集结号！！！周五san jose游行！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 30 03:08:50 2013, 美东)
这次参议员Kansen Chu将Hosts Community Rally Against Hate Speech and Violence
in our Communities
and he says the goal is to FIRE JIMMY KIMMEL!!! “to terminate the show,
fire Jimmy Kimmel, and establish policy to prevent similar instances from
occurring in the future.”
参加完游行你的人生就完整了！
Please invite as many friends as possible to fill the San Jose City Hall
Plaza.
Th... 阅读全帖 |
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l******o
发帖数: 8344 | 17 我觉得是这样，不能说killing Jewish, but it is safe to say" killing whites"
in comedy.
so apparently ,this doesn't means the Jewish life is more valuable than
Chinese or Whites
It has something to do with their tragic history.
simil
Chin
ge |
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M*********n
发帖数: 4839 | 18 http://entertainment.time.com/2013/10/28/kids-say-the-most-divi
LucindaWingsRia
I'm a fifteen year old California girl, born and raised in the Bay Area. I'm
proud to be an American.
But I also am proud of my Chinese heritage.
Look, I've always been a fan of Jimmy Kimmel. Really. But this obscene,
disgusting, offensive exchange definitely crossed a line.
Discrimination - whether against a certain gender, religion, sexuality,
class, ethnic group, or race, is NEVER okay. Since the beginning of the
... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 19 http://capac-chu.house.gov/press-release/capac-chair-and-chair-
Representative Judy Chu (CA-27), CAPAC Chair: “I understand the jovial
nature of a comedy show, but jokes about killing over 1 billion Chinese
people are no laughing matter. This type of xenophobic rhetoric can cause
dangerous ramifications for the Asian American community. Although the show
’s producers could not have predicted how the children would respond, Jimmy
Kimmel and the ABC Network should not have allowed the segment to a... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 20 "Comments referring to genocide should not be repeated, laughed at, or
tolerated."怎么样?
Representative Judy Chu (CA-27), CAPAC Chair: “I understand the jovial
nature of a comedy show, but jokes about killing over 1 billion Chinese
people are no laughing matter. This type of xenophobic rhetoric can cause
dangerous ramifications for the Asian American community. Although the show
’s producers could not have predicted how the children would respond, Jimmy
Kimmel and the ABC Network should not have a... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 21 Representative Judy Chu (CA-27), CAPAC Chair: “I understand the jovial
nature of a comedy show, but jokes about killing over 1 billion Chinese
people are no laughing matter. This type of xenophobic rhetoric can cause
dangerous ramifications for the Asian American community. Although the show
’s producers could not have predicted how the children would respond, Jimmy
Kimmel and the ABC Network should not have allowed the segment to air.
Comments referring to genocide should not be repeated, laugh... 阅读全帖 |
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 22 发信人: bostontennis (bostontennis), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 呼吁一下电影发烧友
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 31 15:34:35 2013, 美东)
能不能做个电影电视剪辑视频，把那些好赖污抹黑丑化华人亚裔形象的片段放到一起，
让大家好收个教育。这次“杀光中国人”不是偶然的，是他们长期丑化，矮化亚裔形象
的结果，他们心里觉得你讨厌，又好欺负，当然要欺负你一下了。
我能想到的例子：
90年代lethal weapon某级，李连杰演坏人，有个小辫子，开始武功特好，最后被主角
用铁棍桶肚子掉水了死了
friends里的刘玉玲，就是主角richeal的情敌
去年还是前年一个动画片，讲一个镇在玻璃罩里，里面坏蛋大亨就是个亚洲人形象
前几年有个romantic comedy，俊男靓女在谈恋爱，一个亚裔小丑过来用手机照相，被
帅哥一巴掌扇一边了
大家补充吧。。。 |
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b******g
发帖数: 780 | 23 不知大家是否仔细看了28日国会CAPAC给ABC总裁的那封信, 在Judy Chu的网站上
http://chu.house.gov/sites/chu.house.gov/files/documents/CAPAC%
用共产党的套话说，中央给此事定性为反动。
这封词藻华丽的信措辞强硬，明确的说种族问题不能用来编笑话，造成的影响超出亚裔
社区，还引用1980年代华人Vincent Chin被两个白人当成日本人杀了。信中要求Jimmy
Kimmel必须给出一个formal apology.
我们应该以此封信中的理由对ABC和JK施压。“中央”既然都有如此指示，我们应该继
续游行直到JK给个像样的道歉为止。
其中切中要害的话：
"While I understand the nature of a comedy show, these comments are both
inappropriate and offensive to us and others in diverse communities
throughout the country."
"虽然我了解喜剧秀的本质，但对我们和... 阅读全帖 |
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r******m
发帖数: 5550 | 24 不容易，abc 把 jimmy 从 comedy central挖过来，从一开始的 late late night
slot到现在直接和cbs nbc 的 late night show 争收视，培养了很多年了。等于花了
很多钱捧红的花魁，刚刚开始挣钱了，怎么舍得就这么搞掉。
我觉得把他的节目收视拉下去一点，名声搞臭，才是可能达到的目标 |
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o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 25 Good. cheer them but make them keep doing it.
Joe Wong co-host comedy show and lots of Chinese/Asians promoted would be
nice.
They still need to apologize fully for what they did wrong. |
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B********h
发帖数: 59 | 26 香港南华早报今日报道，转载不代表同意其论述
http://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1353498/are-chinese-a
Are Chinese Americans overreacting by comparing Jimmy Kimmel to Hitler?
More than three weeks after the fact, America’s Chinese community is still
up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel’s perceived anti-Chinese skit.
Thousands of protesters in 27 different US cities took to the streets last
week demanding for more apologies by both Kimmel and television network ABC.
People are claiming that the Jimmy Kimmel Live skit, wh... 阅读全帖 |
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j****n
发帖数: 3465 | 27 同学，你觉得一个大国的外交部能沦落到跟一个Comedy Show逐字逐句咬文嚼字的层次
吗？而且，外交部回应的是旅美华人华侨抗议这件事，并不是直接回应JK的Kids Table
Show。 |
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R**********n
发帖数: 523 | 28 The host of ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live” will be honored on Nov. 16 at the
Avalon in Hollywood with a lineup of standup and sketch comedy performances
to raise money for the Noreen Fraser Foundation, which supports women’s
cancer research and programs to raise awareness of the importance of early
detection efforts.
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/jimmy-kimmel-to-receive-variety |
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发帖数: 1445 | 31 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-h-wu/jimmy-kimmel-and-me_b_
Frank H. Wu
Chancellor & Dean of UC Hastings
College of the Law
Jimmy Kimmel and Me
Posted: 11/18/2013 12:59 pm
I was talking to somebody today about the Jimmy Kimmel incident. My friend
had not heard about it. That's part of the problem.
It isn't often that genocide is proposed in contemporary culture. That's
what has happened.
Jimmy Kimmel, late night television host, recently put on a little comedy
sketch in which a kid suggests ... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 32
BS. He's comedy sketches are much better than everyone else's following him
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M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | 33 大河剧俺一看就打瞌睡
里面的女优也不好看
romantic comedy 和推理剧都不错 |
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 34 Crimea: Democracy Is Not Democracy…Unless Obama Says It Is…
March 12, 2014 (Eric Draitser - New Eastern Outlook) - As Crimea prepares to
vote on Saturday March 16th in a crucial referendum on its future, the
rhetoric coming from the West and its propaganda machine has hit a new and
ridiculous low. Not only has US President Barack Obama and his
administration done everything to undermine democracy in Ukraine, they have
now resorted to the most naked forms of hypocrisy in an attempt to
delegitimiz... 阅读全帖 |
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 35 对这种本身就是一个反种族歧视的玩笑都这么敏感，美国的亚洲人没救了。这个Ching-
Chong Ding-Dong Suey Park是个韩国女吧？
我觉得挺好笑的。
如果亚洲人对形容东方语音的Ching-Chong Ding-Dong觉得是侮辱，那么土著印第安人
对red skin这个词忍了多久啊？
Washington (AFP) - Social media erupted in outrage and counter-attacks
Friday after US comedian Stephen Colbert used language that mocked Asian
Americans in what was intended as an anti-racist jibe.
Colbert, who is liberal but parodies a blustery conservative on his late
night talk show, took aim at the Washington Redskins football team whose
nam... 阅读全帖 |
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w******e
发帖数: 1621 | 36 以前我排的话 是 NBC 11点＞CBS 11点＞NBC 1点>CBS 1点 ＞＞＞＞FOX＞ABC。不要钱
的TV只有这几个台。
现在基本只看CBS 11点了，Fallon的看他的第一集就知道不行。现在看CBS 1点也不看
fallon. Fox的黑哥也是属于一般。ABC就不用说了，一如既往的烂。真不是因为他辱华
说他烂，是真烂。
如果啥太都有, comedy central 时不时牛逼下一，柯南应该也不错，不过那些平时都
看不上，不好说。当然还是觉得最好看的是SNL |
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p********7
发帖数: 18007 | 37 This is making fun of Chinese, I urge you think twice or at least wiki this
so called damn comedy before casting a vote to this Taiwan Clown. |
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s**p
发帖数: 275 | 38 转一个在抗议ABC行动中的英雄人物，李春燕博士通过【微动博】网站 (weidb. com)，
亲自发表对这个连续剧的看法：
标题：在主流媒体看亚裔连续剧？FOB会自毁形象吗?
昨天转了大手笔Swan 的消息：“请大家到Entertainment Weekly的网站上投票，在那
些录像之后就是，把Fresh的票数顶上去。现在是第三名。”
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/13/abc-fall-tv-clips/
今天一看已经是第二了。大家再接再厉啊。就是我这个一向不愿提及“融入”“主流”
的人，也要说，在主流媒体看亚裔连续剧不是很好吗？看ABC的line up以及promotion
都提到diversity。我们不应只是被媒体利用和其他族裔掐架的“model minority"，而
是要建立自己在这社会的形象，那么喜剧就是很好的入口。下面很多链接与大家分享。
也可以买来Eddie Huang的这本书和孩子们阅读讨论（据说已脱销，链接有节选）。
把投票拱到第一，让媒体看看市场？
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/13/abc-fal... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 39 Top 10 movies:
1.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0073488/
Oni srazhalis za rodinu (1975)
("They fought for the Motherland") - One of best Soviet military movies,
very many best Soviet famous actors played in this movie. As I remember,
this movie got "Oscar" in USA. Summer of 1942... Remainders of broken
regiment are retreating in Don region. Their regiment lost most part of men,
they fought and retreat very long time but they do not run, they retreat in
order and continue to fight when command order... 阅读全帖 |
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r*****m
发帖数: 3619 | 40 day on Yahoo World Cup LIVEBosnia-HerzegovinavsIran
Caleb Bankston on "Survivor: Blood vs. Water" (CBS Photo Archive)
Former 'Survivor' contestant dies in freak accident
Caleb Bankston, an Alabama Warrior Railway employee in real life, is on a
train that derails. On show with fiancée in 2013 »
More stories
N. Korea angry over movie
Cellphone search decision
Court rules against Aereo
Former 'Survivor' star dies
KFC: It was a hoax
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e****e
发帖数: 90 | 41 Fisher官司输了的新闻估计大家都看了。法庭支持学校按人种录取学生。这样对亚裔怎
么办？
两手准备：
1。争取影响力庞大的“非主流”媒体来讨论，支持
2。以其人之道还治其人之身
和老美白人同事私下谈这个问题他们很多也都觉得不合理。他们认为这是一些人的
entitlement心里在做崇，自己能力不够就觉着是社会没给机会。
asian绝对也算minority，但莫黑政客现在是打着 white vs minorities 之后更细分的
，每个race都要单独区分。最近几年越来越多的机构填表格上除了问是否少数族裔外还
会让填具体是哪个族裔。
如果要这样的话，那就不应该孤立高校选拔，而应该从各个社会层面入手。以其人之道
还治其人之身。例如先从体育界入手，要求立法规定race也进入球员选拔标准，亚裔球
员应该享有一定比例的名额。动了他们的蛋糕看他们再怎么说。我们心里清楚亚裔球员
运动能力，但莫黑学习差也是共识，他们敢厚颜无耻抢名额，亚裔也可以这么做。
然后说 Asians are under-represented in all three branches of the government,... 阅读全帖 |
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t****z
发帖数: 8931 | 42 靠，美国澳洲两个卢瑟，
周末半夜在地下室比较加拿大，哈哈，
受了什么刺激？
知道阿拉加拿大人在干什么吗
我们先去了一个笑话俱乐部
以前金凯瑞和howie mandel表演Live Standup Comedy的地方
昨天晚上演员和观众吵起来了
因为段子里有一段犹太人和空气笑话
下面观众抗议，
6，7个人离场
看完演出去皇后大街吃了宵夜
街上人太多，排了好长时间
然后到国王街 bar hopping
本来听说2点雷暴大雨，我们准备1点走
结果出来抽烟时看到星星都出来了
就一直玩到2nd last call
和温莎来的男的暧昧了
但是没有去他的旅馆
因为不和陌生人上床的
刚刚起床
正在圈阅你们昨天半夜分析加拿大 |
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h*****7
发帖数: 3192 | 43 东北的Stand up Comedy而已，挺好。 |
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 44 Why CNN? 美国小孩难道不是看Comedy Central, John Stuart. CNN主播干的再辛苦，
可是新闻质量和口碑不行呀。 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 45 North Korea blames U.S. for Internet outages, calls Obama a "monkey"
(Reuters) - North Korea called U.S. President Barack Obama a "monkey" and
blamed Washington on Saturday for Internet outages that it has experienced
during a confrontation with the United States over the hacking of the film
studio Sony Pictures.
The National Defence Commission, the North's ruling body, chaired by state
leader Kim Jong Un, said Obama was responsible for Sony's belated decision
to release the action comedy "The I... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3438 | 46 去西加勒比海邮轮一周游。尽然在船上晚上的comedy show时间发生令人震惊的一幕。
台下一烙印大妈争着抢话筒破口而出一句话： Chinese ppl have zero
sense of
humor.她说话声音非常响。 她
就座在舞台第一排。我座在倒数第三，第四排。场子里基本都是老美，少数
亚裔和烙印
。她当着几千号人破口大骂老中。当时我第一个反应就是完了，老中的地位
越来越低了
。我一定要把这个事情汇报上来，让老中都知道烙印到底是啥货色。是烙印
的地方老中
一定要提防他们哦。他们属于无耻之徒，尽然在公众场合污蔑老中，更不要
说在各大公
司拿什么手段黑老中了。。 |
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发帖数: 2038 | 47 very bad taste, this is not stand up comedy, this is stand up prostitution |
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发帖数: 29576 | 48 HEATHER WILHELM, REALCLEARPOLITICS: You know, Hillary Clinton has had a very
, very wild week and it's almost like The Hillary Show and it's all on
comedy. The "Scooby Van" that she's been driving across the nation has, so
far, parked in a handicapped parking spot; she had a completely bizarre
visit to Chipotle where she went in wearing sunglasses like a mobster and
not talking to anyone. It has been really interesting to watch...
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发帖数: 1120 | 49 http://www.returnofkings.com/53410/the-decimation-of-western-wo
A new song by rising Swedish pop star Tove Lo serves as a reminder to
Western men how broken the current generation of women have become. Have a
watch at this video:
The song has a simple message: a young woman gets hurt by a guy and decides
to ease the pain by going to the club, getting drunk, smoking reefer, and
fucking random guys. This coping strategy doesn’t work too well in the
video—a brief but visceral moment in the end show... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12955 | 50
Wrong. Unless the baker sells a generic type of cake, he would have to put
a lot of customization effort into creating this cake. This customization
effort should have been exempt from the generic anti-discrimination
protection, since essentially every cake is a unique creation.
Forcing this baker to make such a cake is no different than say, forcing a
comedian to tell fat jokes in his routines because some of his audience
liked that kind of comedy. If someone asked this comedian to perform ... 阅读全帖 |
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