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c*********3
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 看谁霸权,换个位置即可

选项1就不说了
选项2是:
Вы за восстановление действия Конституци
и Республики Крым 1992 года и за статус Крым
а как части Украины?
google translate:
You for the restoration of the Constitution of the Republic of Crimea in
1992 and for the status of the Crimea as part of Ukraine?
重点:and for the status of the Crimea as part of Ukraine?
终结此贴
U*E
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - Russia could turn US to 'radioactive ash'
State TV says Russia could turn US to 'radioactive ash'
http://news.yahoo.com/state-tv-says-russia-could-turn-us-radioa
Moscow (AFP) - A leading anchor on Russian state television on Sunday
described Russia as the only country capable of turning the United States
into "radioactive ash", in an incendiary comment at the height of tensions
over the Crimea referendum.
Related Stories
Russia can turn U.S. to radioactive ash: Kremlin-backed journalist Reuters
Russia test-fires ICBM amid tension over U... 阅读全帖
g**1
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Obama orders asset freeze, visa bans against those involved in Russian move
on Ukraine
WASHINGTON Thu Mar 6, 2014 8:14am EST
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered the freezing of U.S.
assets and a ban on travel into the United States of those involved in
threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.
Obama signed an executive order aimed at punishing those Russians and
Ukrainians responsible for a Russian incursion into the Crimea region of
southern Ukraine, a... 阅读全帖
W*******n
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来自主题: Military版 - New Suggestions on the Ukraine Crisis
New Suggestions on the Ukraine Crisis
Limin Wang
03/06/2014
The Crimea referendum should go ahead by the Crimea authority and its
population. Russia should welcome such a move publicly, but not indicate any
of her own formal move on this matter yet.
Russia's military should welcome the challenge from the USA. The USA does
not even have a chance to win a war with Russia over Ukraine. If the war
breaks out, Russia needs to bring its ally Syria into the combat zone too.
Such chain action will sprea... 阅读全帖
r******r
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£34bn wiped off shares listed in Moscow as investors respond to Russia's
intervention in Crimea
Share 416
Russia's financial system punished Vladimir Putin far more swiftly than
western diplomacy on Monday, as the Moscow stock market suffered one of its
biggest one-day falls in recent years and the rouble tumbled sharply in a
first nervous reaction to the Kremlin's gambit in Crimea.
Some £34bn was wiped off the value of companies on the Moscow stock
exchange on Monday and the central bank burned... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - Putin Smashes Washington’s Cocoon
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/03/01/putin-smas
Battle for UkrainePutin Smashes Washington’s Cocoon
A Politico report calls it “a crisis that no one anticipated.” The Daily
Beast, reporting on Friday’s US intelligence assessment that “Vladimir
Putin’s military would not invade Ukraine,” quotes a Senate aide claiming
that “no one really saw this kind of thing coming.”
Op-eds from all over the legacy press this week helped explained why.
Through the rose tinted lenses of a media co... 阅读全帖
S***1
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Moscow (AFP) - A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above
the Ukranian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group
said Friday.
"The drone was flying at about 4,000 metres (12,000 feet) and was virtually
invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US
operators with complex radio-electronic" technology, said Rostec in a
statement.
The drone fell "almost intact into the hands of self-defence forces" added
Rostec, which said it had manufactur... 阅读全帖
g**1
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Thousands come out for rival rallies in Moscow to support Crimea or say no
to war
http://rt.com/news/moscow-rally-crimea-support-098/
t***o
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你的阅读理解该提高:
Polling stations across Crimea are due to open at 08:00 local time (06:00
GMT) and close 12 hours later.
Voters are being asked whether they would like Crimea to rejoin Russia.
A second question asks whether Ukraine should return to its status under the
1992 constitution, which would give the region much greater autonomy
明显是四个选择:
- 重回俄罗斯: yes no
- 重回1992年宪法:yes no


g**1
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来自主题: Military版 - 巴马又打电话了ZT
http://huff.to/1nvGyJB
Putin, Obama Talk After Crimea Vote
@NSCPress ✔ @NSCPress
Follow
The President spoke with President Putin this afternoon about #Ukraine.
Readout forthcoming.
4:47 PM - 16 Mar 2014
Kremlin Releases Readout Of Obama/Putin Call
The Kremlin released a readout Sunday of a call between President Barack
Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Putin again said the government
in Kiev was encouraging ultranationalists and that the referendum was legal
because of th... 阅读全帖
l*******o
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Crimea Vote Galvanizes Separatists in Russia
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/crimea-vote-galvaniz
Chechnya and Dagestan are seen as the main centers of separatism in Russia,
but there are also separatist movements in regions including Tatarstan, Tuva
, Bashkortostan, Sakha, and even regions where the majority of the
population is Russian, such as exclave Kaliningrad and the Primorsky region
in the Far East.
以前就知道一个车臣,原来很多地方都有独立倾向,达吉斯坦,鞑靼斯坦、图瓦、
Bashkortostan不知道是啥地方,还有远东的独立出来可以排在全世界国家面积... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - Russia could turn US to 'radioactive ash'
State TV says Russia could turn US to 'radioactive ash'
http://news.yahoo.com/state-tv-says-russia-could-turn-us-radioa
Moscow (AFP) - A leading anchor on Russian state television on Sunday
described Russia as the only country capable of turning the United States
into "radioactive ash", in an incendiary comment at the height of tensions
over the Crimea referendum.
Related Stories
Russia can turn U.S. to radioactive ash: Kremlin-backed journalist Reuters
Russia test-fires ICBM amid tension over U... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 瞧瞧人家毛熊的骨气
Russian lawmakers ask President Obama to impose sanctions on them all
http://rt.com/politics/russian-duma-sanctions-crimea-594/
The State Duma has passed a motion suggesting that the US and EU extend the
freshly introduced sanctions to all Russian MPs rather than a limited group
of officials, defying western pressure just hours before Russia and Crimea
signed a federation treaty.
The motion was supported by a unanimous vote on Tuesday morning. It was
prepared the day before by all four parliamen... 阅读全帖
S***1
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因为克里米亚现在是俄国的了。
俄罗斯说以前乌克兰非法占有克里米亚,导致俄国租用克里米亚军港,俄罗斯不得不给
乌克兰的油气打折,损失了110亿美元的利润。现在克里米亚回归俄国,乌克兰要把之
前的损失赔偿俄国。
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on Friday demanded Ukraine pay back $11
billion that he said Kiev had saved through discounted gas prices in return
for hosting a Russian naval base in Crimea.
Ukraine owes the money because Crimea is now part of Russia and the two
countries' 2010 lease agreement was now "subject to annulment," Medvedev
said at a meeting of the Security Council.
"The Ukrainian st... 阅读全帖
l****p
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来自主题: Military版 - 89%的驻克里米亚乌军归顺俄罗斯
另外11%离开,但没有一个人拿起武器反抗。
http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-soldiers-leave-crimea-577/
Only 11% of Ukrainian soldiers opted to quit Crimea
m*****n
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U.S., other powers kick Russia out of G8
The Hague, Netherlands (CNN) -- President Barack Obama and other world
leaders have decided to end Russia's role in the group of leading
industrialized nations, the White House said Monday.
The move to suspend Russia's membership in the G8 is the latest direct
response from major countries allied against Russia's annexation of Crimea.
"International law prohibits the acquisition of part or all of another state
's territory through coercion or force," the ... 阅读全帖
l****p
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不得不说,乌克兰败的彻底呀!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/27/world/europe/crimea-dolphins-defe
Report: Ukraine military dolphins to switch nationalities, join Russian navy
(CNN) -- Just when you thought this divorce couldn't get any messier.
Weeks after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimea region, it plans to take custody
of dolphins in the nation as well.
Not just any dolphins. These highly trained military mammals detect risks
such as sea mines or enemy scuba divers trying to slip through. Sea mines
are sophistica... 阅读全帖
y***u
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"No one is more of a slave than one who thinks himself free when he is not."
- Goethe
The Ukrainian crisis reveals
political freedom in the West
is a ruse.
In Brussels Wednesday, Obama warned that Russia can't "run roughshod over
its neighbors" and no amount of Russian propaganda "can make a wrong right."
Our leaders are delusional. This is a recipe for nuclear war.
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
What do the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, the "civil war" in Syria and
the "popular uprisings" in Libya a... 阅读全帖
w********9
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楼主,你太天真了。
首先,一个强大的大陆是不会允许一个极其近的战略位置极其重要的台湾合法独立。
National interest/security,国家战略安全。
大陆如果有大的内乱而有大的分裂,台湾独立的可能性会增加很多。
从很多重要方面来看,大陆与台湾比是几十对一。比较不可能对等。

东西德的深层差异小很多。Crimea本来就与俄国大陆没有什么大的分离。
本来台湾的历史就更复杂。有几百年的移民和近代的外族深层统治的历史。国语普及的
历史不长。过去相当比例的台湾人认为日本人比大陆同胞的文明和教养程度高。大陆去
的人和后代(“血缘”有1/2或以上的)比例在最高时大概都不到1/3。
人为造成的地理阻碍大大减小后,普通话或国语地位提升后,两岸通婚加强后,认同感
会加强。台湾的经济发展需要大陆。
:都有独立的问题,更何况台湾与大陆呢?要想通过经济来统一台湾也是个幼稚的想法。
与魁北克(骄傲的法语文化)和爱尔兰(大的宗教差异)没有可比性。
如果香港的地位总是那么重要,那么说明中国大陆的发展有大问题。
:真要把台湾拿回来,只有军事手段。而且越早越好。如果5/60年代直接拿下,现在啥问
:题都没... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌介石是反鹅毛大旗帜
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/41443231.html
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 看来乌克兰抱定北约的大腿了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 2 13:46:31 2014, 美东)
Ukraine agrees to host NATO war games
Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's parliament on Tuesday approved a series of joint
military exercises with NATO countries that would put US troops in direct
proximity to Russian forces in the annexed Crimea peninsula.
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-pm-medvedev-visits-crimea-reports
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 看来乌克兰抱定北约的大腿了
Ukraine agrees to host NATO war games
Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's parliament on Tuesday approved a series of joint
military exercises with NATO countries that would put US troops in direct
proximity to Russian forces in the annexed Crimea peninsula.
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-pm-medvedev-visits-crimea-reports
G*****h
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罐头上都印着 made in Crimea, Russia
贴个 EULA:By opening this you acknowledge the production is from Crimea,
Russia
hehe
b********n
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US angry with Israel's 'neutrality' over Ukrainian crisis
US officials expressed anger over Israel's policy of "non-interference" with
the Russian annexation of the Crimea; Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported.
A US official told the paper that the White House was disappointed with
Israel's absence from the UN General Assembly meeting two weeks ago to vote
on condemning Russia's military invasion of the Crimea and call to maintain
Ukraine's territorial integrity.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰这事怎么收场?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38248.htm
I'm Confused, Can Anyone Help Me?
By Neil Clark
April 16, 2014 "ICH" - "RT" - I'm confused. A few weeks ago we were told in
the West that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine was a very
good thing. These people, we were told by our political leaders and elite
media commentators, were 'pro-democracy protestors'.
The US government warned the Ukrainian authorities against using force
against these 'pro-democracy protestors' even... 阅读全帖
c****g
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擦,人心不足。能消化crimea,普京足以垂名鹅史。再进一步,搞不好连crimea都要吐
出来。老土鳖早说过:过犹不及。
y**********g
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来自主题: Military版 - 战斗种族说话是不一样啊
Don't mess with nuclear Russia, Putin says
LAKE SELIGER Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Friday
Russia's armed forces, backed by its nuclear arsenal, were ready to meet any
aggression, declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp that foreign states
should understand: "It's best not to mess with us."
Related Stories
Ukraine seeks to join NATO; defiant Putin compares Kiev to Nazis Reuters
Putin says Russians and Ukrainians 'practically one people' Reuters
Putin to meet security chiefs... 阅读全帖
d*****s
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前苏联当年也搞这一套,无数加盟共和国,还把军事重地Crimea送给乌克兰, 最后好,
全独立了。辛亏乌克兰糊涂,让俄国把Crimea拿回去了,否则多等20年再折腾,俄国根
本没戏。
共党国家结束的时候,基本都会国家分裂,这个是它DNA决定的,都是一条路子。连香
港97年时候,很多人还亲近大陆,现在搞得很多人想独立。这个DNA是改不好的。
c****g
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擦,作弊买办说的是crimea?还是东吴?Putin表示很委屈:crimea是鹅毛的,去东吴
的不是偶。作弊买办就是有jb没脑子的逗比。
c*********d
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http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-333-583443-1.shtml
楼主:灵魂相连 时间:2014-11-23 22:05:44 点击:1 回复:1
Chinese naval base for Walvis Bay
纳米比亚沃尔维斯湾的中国海军基地
DISCUSSIONS are under way at the ‘highestlevels’ regarding plans by
the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy to build abase at Walvis Bay in
the next 10 years.
就解放军海军未来十年内在沃尔维斯湾建海军基地的事宜正在进行“高级别的”的
讨论。
According to reports in the Chinese media,Walvis Bay will be one of 18
naval bases that will be established in variousregions: Pakistan, Sri Lanka
and Mynanmar i... 阅读全帖
O***O
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来自主题: Military版 - 战斗民族俄爹快要挺不住了
石油价格唯一的决定因素是美国经济。美国经济如果走强(现在看起来似乎是真的),
加上美元升值导致美元回流,通货膨胀压力会非常大。为了转嫁压力,压低石油价格是
第一选择。十年内石油价格低到50、40、30美元一桶大有可能。直到下一个经济周期美
国经济再次不景气。
美国经济不景气时期,为了防止通货紧缩,有抬升石油价格的压力。这个趋势持续了好
几年,今年已经结束。
至于俄国。看看普京在乌克兰的表现。乌克兰政客实在不想要Crimea那帮亲俄派(历史
上法理上人气上Crimea都属于俄国),所以跟俄罗斯半推半就,普京在战术上也确实干
净利索,得了面子。乌克兰真不愿放弃的领土,你让普京拼上国力打持久战?他才不傻
。立刻就软了。说普京要去核平中东(伊朗?),真不知道那个平行宇宙的假想。
其实这是中共一帮既想扶清灭洋,又没有胆子真干的乌合之众普遍的幻想。老琢磨着花
俩小钱找个大个子到前面去死打,自己在后面乘凉。反复忘记那个大个子捏软柿子的历
史纪录,宇宙第一。
y*******r
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Crimea cannot be blamed for seceding from Ukraine – a country in turmoil –
and choosing to join Russia, said former president of France, Nicolas
Sarkozy. He also added that Ukraine “is not destined to join the EU.”
We are part of a common civilization with Russia,” said Sarkozy, speaking
on Saturday at the congress of the Union for a Popular Movement Party (UMP),
which the former president heads.
“The interests of the Americans with the Russians are not the interests of
Europe and Russia,” he sa... 阅读全帖
M*V
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Thousands come out for rival rallies in Moscow to support Crimea or say no
to war
http://rt.com/news/moscow-rally-crimea-support-098/
T*********I
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从1:02开始
Transcript:
Taking a page out of the Hitler playbook, Russian President Putin has
invaded Ukraine saying that Russian nationals are in danger in that country.
You may remember back in 1938 the Nazi leader did the exact same thing in
Czechoslovakia sending in forces to, quote, "protect Germans" who the Fuhrer
said were at risk it was a reuse. Britain and France capitulated and a year
later the World War II began.
There is no question that Putin's invasion of the Crimea is a clear
internat... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Editorial Board, Published: March 2
FOR FIVE YEARS, President Obama has led a foreign policy based more on how
he thinks the world should operate than on reality. It was a world in which
“the tide of war is receding” and the United States could, without much
risk, radically reduce the size of its armed forces. Other leaders, in this
vision, would behave rationally and in the interest of their people and the
world. Invasions, brute force, great-power games and shifting alliances —
these were t... 阅读全帖
W*******n
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来自主题: USANews版 - New Suggestions on the Ukraine Crisis
New Suggestions on the Ukraine Crisis
Limin Wang
03/06/2014
The Crimea referendum should go ahead by the Crimea authority and its
population. Russia should welcome such a move publicly, but not indicate any
of her own formal move on this matter yet.
Russia's military should welcome the challenge from the USA. The USA does
not even have a chance to win a war with Russia over Ukraine. If the war
breaks out, Russia needs to bring its ally Syria into the combat zone too.
Such chain action will sprea... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - 疤蟆真是没ball阿
U.S., Europe Impose New Sanctions on Russia
WASHINGTON—The West imposed more sanctions against Russia on Monday over
its alleged intervention in Ukraine. The U.S. list was longer than the
European one, but both stopped short of the sweeping measures that the
Ukrainian government says are needed to sway the Kremlin.
The latest U.S. measures target seven Russian officials and 17 companies the
U.S. says are linked to President Vladimir Putin's inner circle. The Obama
administration also will restri... 阅读全帖
d*******2
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Trump to look at recognizing Crimea as Russian territory, lifting sanctions
By TYLER PAGER 07/27/16 01:26 PM EDT
Share on Facebook Share on Twitter
Donald Trump said Wednesday that, if he is elected president, he would
consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions
against Russia.
o**********e
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WashingtonPost:
Crimea as consolation prize: Russia faces some big costs over Ukrainian
region
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/crimea-as-consolatio
Quote: The most shrill voice all week has been China, which has voiced daily
, at times hourly, criticism of Malaysia’s handling of the search.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/sniping-over-missing-malays
The American media is never completely happy unless they
have an enemy somewhere.
d**********0
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可能是因为美国人的思维和毛子不一样。
当年为了日本, 专门请人搞了一本关于日本文化的书,好确定在日本投降后实行的对
日政策。 而对毛子, 于领土无穷贪婪的本性却看不透。 以至于现在,在Crimea 之
后, 仍然放任毛子。
保李承晚,那是不得以的办法了。 想想, 如果把这一份决心,放在校长身上, 那不
知道要挽救了多少人的性命。
d**********0
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可能是因为美国人的思维和毛子不一样。
当年为了日本, 专门请人搞了一本关于日本文化的书,好确定在日本投降后实行的对
日政策。 而对毛子, 于领土无穷贪婪的本性却看不透。 以至于现在,在Crimea 之
后, 仍然放任毛子。
保李承晚,那是不得以的办法了。 想想, 如果把这一份决心,放在校长身上, 那不
知道要挽救了多少人的性命。
d*h
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来自主题: History版 - 蒙古人败就败在没文化上
要说蒙古帝国,最后一块属地Crimea Khanate是1783年被俄国人灭掉的。
W*****B
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: WCNMLGB (CCC), 信区: Military
标 题: 今天是俄国末代沙皇宠臣拉斯普廷遇害100周年
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 30 23:00:42 2016, 美东)
One hundred years since Russia’s controversial mystic Grigory Rasputin was
poisoned, shot, beaten, and thrown into freezing waters by a group of
aristocrats, historians are still divided over his murder and influence on
the Tsar’s family.
The Siberian faith healer’s close relationship with the Romanov royal
family caused ruptures among Russian aristocrats fearful o... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: Military版 - New Humvee?
Christopher Drew, Revamped Humvee Draws Military’s Eye; A design for
cheaper, and more nimble, mine-resistant vehicles. New York Times, July 23,
2011.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/business
/humvee-with-chimney-for-safety-draws-militarys-interest.html?scp=1&sq=
humvee&st=cse
(George Tunis, Hardwire's CEO, "said the chimney, which is hidden next to a
gunner’s turret atop the Humvee, is the biggest change. But like the mine-
resistant vehicles, the Humvee prototypes have V-shaped steel bottoms... 阅读全帖
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Witnesses said the gunmen in Simferopol, the Crimean regional capital, wore
unmarked camouflage uniforms and carried rocket-propelled grenades, sniper
rifles and other weapons. They raised the Russian flag over the local
parliament building.
The men did not immediately voice any demands and threw a flash grenade in
response to a journalist's questions. They wore black and orange ribbons, a
Russian symbol of the victory in World War II, and put up a sign reading "
Crimea is Russia."
Maxim, a pro-... 阅读全帖
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Ukraine says Russian troops take over airports in Crimea
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-troops-take-
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BREAKING VIDEO of 12 #russian-combat helicopters (MI-24 & MI-8 3) over #
Sevastopol in #Crimea http://youtu.be/ZUthbNCA1nc |PR Video #Ukraine
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Putin: "Check, and thanks for the Crimea."
DC US and friends: "I thought we were playing checkers. WTF?!"
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立法要求,要并入俄罗斯的外国领土必须通过公投。这是为Crimea量身定做的立法啊。
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/28/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Meanwhile, Russian lawmakers introduced two bills Friday to simplify
annexing new territories into the Russian Federation and simplify access to
Russian citizenship for Ukrainians, the Russian state news agency Itar Tass
said.
One bill also stipulates that accession of a part of a foreign state to
Russia should be taken through a referendum, according to Russian state ne... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 随时更新-乌克兰最新消息
Ukraine prepares for face-off with Russian in Crimea
http://news.yahoo.com/video/ukraine-prepares-face-off-russian-1
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