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发帖数: 16484 | 1 虽然很早以前就认识到了美国媒体在新闻中用很隐蔽的手法来扭曲事实真相给观众洗脑
，经历了大选期间的各种drama，但是美国媒体的做法还是屡屡让我刷新认识。
我不是川粉，完全站在一个中立的角度来看，美国媒体的这些手段真是太下作了。
看看下面这篇报道。如果只看标题，第一段和最后一段，这简直就是川普通俄的铁证了
。但是如果仔细读一读就会发现，整个故事就是根据某某匿名来源编的。这篇报道的中
间还是装模作样的引用了一下出席会议的其他人的采访，虽然那些人都明确的反驳了这
个无端的指控，但是文章最后还是spin成川普泄漏了保密信息。这些媒体造了谣，白宫
打了几个电话，就成了要contain damage了。实在是无耻之极，语言无法表达我的恶心。
对自己的总统都如此下作，那这些媒体会怎么写的关于中国的报道，可以想象有多么恶
心。这些媒体成天鼓吹什么正义公平，只是装13的时候用用而已。
Report: Trump shared secret info about IS with Russians
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump revealed highl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 15334 | 2 It's not wrong, POTUS can declassify any information legally.
Also it's information about terrorists, Russia is fighting the same
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发帖数: 1 | 3 THIS IS INDIA’S CHINA WAR, ROUND TWO
The absurd myth of an ‘unprovoked Chinese aggression’ in 1962 has
fermented in India a persistent longing for revenge
BY NEVILLE MAXWELL
15 JUL 2017 / UPDATED ON 25 JUL 2017
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Indian Army soldiers of the Gorkha Regiment patrol the India-China border.
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发帖数: 38600 | 4 Trump needs to do one of two things:
-Declassify everything.
-Exonerate Assange, issue him a full pardon; and let him and the WikiLeaks
go to work. |
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发帖数: 1 | 5 美国对外干涉中的隐蔽行动——以尼克松政府对智利阿连德政权实施隐蔽行动为例
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有学者认为阿连德的国内改革以及智利内部的政治经济状况是导致智利政变的根本原因
，而美国的隐蔽行动只起到了推波助澜的作用。通过最近的两批解密档案，我们看到了
美国在阿连德大选、就职、执政以及智利政变期间策划、主导并实施了旨在颠覆阿连德
政权的全方位的隐蔽行动。 阿连德上台后推行的政治、经济和社会改革都由于美国实
施的隐蔽政治行动、隐蔽经济行动、隐蔽宣传行动以及隐蔽准军事行动的干扰和破坏，
其效率和效果受到了直接的影响，直到美国主导策划下1973年9月政变的爆发。
一、问题的缘起
“隐蔽行动”是冷战期间美国对苏联、东欧乃至中国等社会主义国家实施的重要斗争手
段。对于这些行动，美国政府总是竭力否认和掩盖，但随着解密档案的逐步出现，真相
不断浮出水面，对这一问题的研究也随之深入，成为西方冷战史研究的一个热点。美国
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发帖数: 7349 | 6 这事恐怕要等以后王室档案declassified才能说清了
: 其实哈里根本不是他的 长得一点都不像
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发帖数: 2555 | 7 30万最先是Harold Timperley提的
美国驻德国大使听到日本驻德国大使“吹牛”，说50万从上海杀到南京
The casualty count of 300,000 was first promulgated in January 1938 by
Harold Timperley, a journalist in China during the Japanese invasion, based
on reports from contemporary eyewitnesses.[2]
Other sources, including Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking, also conclude
that the death toll reached 300,000.
In December 2007, newly declassified U.S. government archive documents
revealed that a telegraph by the U.S. ambassador to Germany in Berli... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 8 在毛泽东天下，我就不相信“苏修亡我之心不死”。40年后，想起个头，引大家一起想
想。
先得把深入我们头脑的许多唸了千遍的口号并由此而变成了的概念动摇，甚至改变。
这样才能够质疑。比如说苏联向我们“逼债”，现在知道了这没有文献可证明，那是为
了替毛泽东的大饥荒找个出气口。 说苏联在中国边境上陈兵百万，那也是毛泽东擅长
的骗中国人民的口号。 苏联在中国边境上的军力是66万，中国是81万。
苏联派军队打进中国，要亡中国是明显不会发生的事。
第一， 苏联人民非常不想打仗，他们在二次大战里死了2700万人，大家都知道战争的
残酷和可怕, 包括战争时才10岁的戈巴乔夫也亲眼看到过。 将来我也许会报导一些士
兵们从前线寄回家的信，这样的信，在苏联是成千成万。 55年到70年苏联又出版了无
数的可怕的战争文艺作品。中国是个大国家，是个在毛泽东控制下打仗死再多的人也不
在乎的国家。苏联共产党凭什么来号召老百姓和她的军队来亡中国？
第二， 苏联的国家利益是在欧洲，特别在德国。 要在欧洲保卫苏联的利益已经够吃力
的了，东欧国家都不大听苏联的话。 苏联的第二利益在阿富汗和伊朗。 中国有多大的
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发帖数: 5309 | 9 转自《华盛顿邮报》原文
A complete timeline of the events behind the memo that threatens to rip D.C.
in two
Before the election
Sep. 11-12, 2012. Terrorists attack two American facilities in Benghazi,
Libya, killing four people including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.
Feb. 1, 2013. Hillary Clinton steps down as secretary of state. During her
tenure, she used a private email address for department business, hosted on
a server located at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y.
June. Carter Page, an energy industry co... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 10 "A National Security Agency (NSA) surveillance program that accessed
American citizens' domestic phone calls and text messages resulted in only
one investigation between 2015 and 2019 despite costing $100 million, a
newly declassified study found. The report, which was produced by the
Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board and briefed to Congress on
Tuesday, also found that the program only yielded information the FBI did
not already have on two occasions during that four-year period.
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发帖数: 1956 | 11 Full Soviet records didn't become available until 1990. By that time, most
major works about the Eastern Front had already been published, so later
authors just accepted the accounts of the battle as given in earlier books,
and failed to conduct the additional research that these records would've
allowed them.
Red Army tank losses, long assumed to be moderate, were actually
catastrophic. For instance, 'Operation Rumyantsev' (the main Red Army
counter-offensive after 'Kursk') was launched by Pav... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1956 | 12 3 things to remember about the battle.
(1) The British had broken the German code..so the Russian knew the initial
plans
(2) declassified papers from Washington show the German number of Armour on
the battlefield was elevated by the Russians
(3) Hitler lost his nerve and didn't listen to his field Marshall's and
withdrew.
Hitler's Operation Citadel was a waste: the goal was merely to pinch the
Russian forces even if Hitler continued the attack...The strategic goal wasn
't in reach. But The ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 14 GUATEMALA CITY (AP) - In the end, tradition trumped rising enthusiasm for a
youthful populist.
Guatemalans have once again elected as their new leader the presidential
candidate who lost the previous election, something they have done since
democracy returned to the Central American country in 1986.
Retired general and former intelligence director Otto Perez Molina of the
conservative Patriotic Party won an easy and early victory on Sunday in a
runoff race against tycoon-turned-political populis... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 15 When Naval Institute Press decided to publish "The Hunt for Red October" in
1983, few ever imagined the book would become a hit, much less create a
literary genre.
But it did, and as a result, author Tom Clancy took his place among the
American pantheon of authors – a place that many of the reviewers in the
elite media seem to ignore, at best.
I have been a Clancy fan since I was maybe eight years old. I read his books
constantly – to the annoyance of my eighth-grade English teacher. Of
course, ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 16 Last Gasps of Fearless Chavez: ‘I don’t want to die. Please don’t let me
die’
by Jammie
All the slobbering media eulogies of this psychopath remind us that he was a
so-called strongman. On the contrary, he was your typical sniveling leftist
pussy, full of bully and bluster but a coward until the end.
President Hugo Chavez died of a massive heart attack after great
suffering and inaudibly mouthed his desire to live, the head of Venezuela’s
presidential guard said late Wednesday.
Great sufferi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 17 John Brennan issues apology after acknowledging that agency spied on Senate
intelligence committee’s staff members
The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, issued an
extraordinary apology to leaders of the US Senate intelligence committee on
Thursday, conceding that the agency employees spied on committee staff and
reversing months of furious and public denials.
Brennan acknowledged that an internal investigation had found agency
security personnel transgressed a firewall s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 18 White House & Hillary First Tried To Link Benghazi Attack To A Different
Video
You gotta love Judicial Watch if it wasn’t for them America would know so
much less about the terrorist attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.
Today they released some new information detailing that before the Obama
administration tied the attack to an anti-Muslim video about the prophet
Mohammed, they tried to tie it to a different video they considered anti-
Muslim.
These latest documents were procured fr... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29853 | 19 http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top
有这么不尊重制度的吗？
Inone e-mail, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by
a foreign leader.
“Just e-mail it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me,
I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified e-
mail system, there is no physical way for me to e-mail it." |
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发帖数: 38600 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: '60分钟'：911报告显示沙特阿拉伯官方在洛杉矶会过见劫机者
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 12 21:23:36 2016, 美东)
28 Pages
Former Sen. Bob Graham and others urge the Obama administration to
declassify redacted pages of a report that holds 9/11 secrets
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发帖数: 6571 | 23 1. The White House issued a readout of your meeting with senior
administration officials on September 10, 2012, indicating “specific
measures” had been taken to “prevent 9/11 related attacks.” What were
these specific measures, and how did these specific measures differ from
specific measures taken on prior anniversaries of September 11?
2. When did you first learn a U.S. facility in Benghazi, Libya, had been
attacked? What were you told, and by whom? Were you informed Sean Smith had
been killed... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8869 | 24 不新了，俺老人家早就指出overclassification是个问题。
发信人: comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 希拉里的电邮置人生命于危险之中
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 2 14:32:54 2016, 美东)
i am talking about overclassification.
overclassification and lack of intelligence sharing led, in part, to the
2001 terrorist attacks, mandated reductions in overclassification.
https://nsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/cias-overclassification-practices
-declassified/
发信人: comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 希拉里的电邮置人生命于危险之中
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发帖数: 29576 | 26 鹅毛阴谋事件升级了，老太要利用这个改变选举人投票。老头放过调查希拉里有点早了
，现在蛇企图咬死农夫。
Electors demand intelligence briefing before Electoral College vote
The request represents the latest effort by Democratic electors to look to
the Electoral College as a possible bulwark against a Trump presidency.
By KYLE CHENEY and GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI 12/12/16 10:13 AM EST Updated 12/12/
16 01:02 PM EST
In its first show of public support for efforts questioning the legitimacy
of Donald Trump's victory, Hillary Clinton’s campaign said it is su... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 27 当然是classified.你看周四早上reince priebus接受媒体采访,不能肯定或者否定这个
新闻。但是他绝口否定了那个35页的报道。
至于biden大嘴说出来，那就不知道是不是大统令给declassify了？如果没有，biden这
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发帖数: 4736 | 28 BY Chris Sommerfeldt
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Saturday, January 28, 2017, 11:10 PM
President Trump's Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his sprawling
business empire
川普总统的穆斯林禁令没有包括与他庞大的商业帝国有关联的国家
President Trump’s most recent executive order effectively bans citizens of
seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. for at least 90 days
— but some Muslim countries were spared from the order's blacklist, even
though they have deep-seated ties to terrorism.
Conspicuously, Trump do... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4736 | 29 SAUDI ARABIA
沙特阿拉伯
虽然对川普与沙特阿拉伯的关系现在知道的还不是很多。但是，就目前仅有的手头一
些资料，就可以让人问一堆问题。
根据 The Washington Post消息，川普在2015年8月份参选后不久，在沙特阿拉伯注册
了8个与酒店利益关联的公司。这些公司注册的名称是： THC Jeddah Hotel/THC 皆大
好酒店， DT Jeddah Technical Services/ DT 皆大好技术服务公司；依据 The
Washington Post的说法，这些注册的公司名称与川普在其它国家注册的名称相似。
在去年竞选集会时，川普表示对沙特阿拉伯人的钦佩。川普说，“他们买我的公寓”，
“他们付了$4000万美元， $5000万美元”，我不应当喜欢他们？ 我太喜欢他们了”。
这样的评论可以让人看出一些眉目，因为大多数9/11袭击者来自沙特阿拉伯。
更多的是，从已经解密的28页的情报通报知道，沙特阿拉伯政府和其富有的该国公民，
在9/11攻击前后，通过美国的清真寺和慈善组织资助了穆斯林激进主义分子。19个劫
机者在进行恐怖袭击之前与沙特阿拉伯等国密切接触，... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 549 | 30 FISA order 应该是真新闻，只是不知道details。Judge jennie正在谈。
总统可以要求declassify. |
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发帖数: 38600 | 31 The only reason they want more time is so they don't have to admit Trump was
talking out of his ass. He has full access to all the info. Declassify or
just let the shit go. |
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发帖数: 20965 | 33 Today, McCain is a mere shadow of his former self -- a man willing to sell
his soul in order to stay relevant, and an embarrassment to those he served
with during his brave military career. Because when Donald Trump humiliated
him for getting caught and tortured in Vietnam, McCain stood by and took it.
Not only that, he used his considerable political capital to actually
endorse the man despite disagreeing with virtually everything he says.
IrishGrrrl • 8 months ago
Ben, sad to say it isn'... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 34 老头告诉鹅毛isis用laptop电池炸弹。
Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and
ambassador
President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian
foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week,
according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s
disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic
State.
The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner
through an intelligence-sharing ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 35 美国总统＂泄露＂了机密，机密便自动declassified 了。特权就是特权，有本事做总
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发帖数: 930 | 36 川大大有权向普京透露核按钮手提箱的密码吗？
他有权利向普京declassify核按钮手提箱的密码和美国核武器的分布吗？ |
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发帖数: 17225 | 37 总统有权declassify机密信息，别人不行。
要是有人羡慕床铺的这个特权，那就也去先选上总统再说。 |
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发帖数: 10729 | 38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_oCn0BR4I
Just declassified! video shows an encounter between a Navy F/A-18 Super
Hornet and an unknown object. It was released by the Defense Department's
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. A whitish oval object,
about the size of a commercial plane, chased by two Navy F/A-18F fighter
jets from the aircraft carrier Nimitz off the coast of San Diego in 2004. |
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发帖数: 12923 | 39 Ted Poe
Verified account
@JudgeTedPoe
2h2 hours ago
More
I urge @realDonaldTrump to postpone signing the FISA reauthorization into
law and urge this information is made public.
I read the top-secret memo that the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence released yesterday. While I cannot comment on its contents, I
can say that it is extremely disturbing. For years, I have worked to rein in
FISA's abuse of Americans' constitutional rights. This information should
be immediately de... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24733 | 41 A memo that is purported to show government surveillance abuse and was at
the center of an intense power struggle between congressional Republicans
and the FBI has been declassified ahead of its expected release later Friday
, Fox News has learned.
According to sources, the memo includes testimony from a high-ranking
government official that without the infamous Trump dossier, the FBI and DOJ
would not have secured surveillance warrants to spy on at least one member
of the Trump team.
It also cl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8041 | 42 前两页是说明这个memo是怎么回事儿的。后面的declassified才是memo正文 |
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发帖数: 1830 | 43 关键是罗僧斯坦签名要求不declassified的
左逼太尴尬了
: 感觉川普又在挖坑
: 但愿我的第六感是对的
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发帖数: 29576 | 44 老头很中意，但参议院估计会有争议。
Haspel ran a "black site" CIA prison located in Thailand in 2002.[10][11]
The site was codenamed "Cat’s Eye" and held suspected al Qaeda members Abd
al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Abu Zubaydah for a time. The Senate Intelligence
Committee report on CIA torture specifies that during their detention at the
site they were waterboarded and interrogated using no-longer-authorized
methods. Declassified CIA cables specify that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83
times in a month, was sleep deprived... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1193 | 45 https://www.wsj.com/articles/about-that-fbi-source-1525992611
The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when
it allowed House Intelligence Committee members to view classified
documents about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBI’s
investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of
that source’s name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.
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I believe I know the name of the informant, ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12756 | 46 就听了个开头，这个Jordan太无能
面对司法部重量级无赖， 他自己的言论不严谨，问话方式不对头
他完全以己之短击人之长，这个hearing不应该这样的
但是人哦森斯坦无论如何狡辩，也改变不了大家都形成的印象
对方终极杀招是，Trujmp 彻底declassify 全部材料的权力。 这他阻止/改变不了
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发帖数: 5818 | 47 and it will not help anything，nor solve anything，尤其是政治上，
所以议员的 智商还是差些，只想做秀，应该问问为什么 trump 就一直拖着 不
declassified，
在这个问题上做个 “受害者” 政治上获利 不但更大，还有操作空间也大！
这几个GOP 议员有点儿 愚蠢
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发帖数: 6307 | 48 为啥一直不declassified?想中期选举的时候使用？ |
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发帖数: 215 | 49 Trump 如果declassify的话，就会是undermine current investigation，obstruction
of justice，因此Trump不能这么做。这件事最好的解决办法就是second special
council，但Session 不同意（Session 这个人是Trump最大的失误，如果没有通俄这事
，美国的两极分化还不会像现在这么严重）。另外一个可以设置special council的地
方是congress，但Pual Ryan那就不会过，因此不可能。在这种情况下，impeach 只能
算是政治上的一种表态，给选民一个交代。还有一点，jordan想选speaker of the
house，不知道这么做可不可以换来Trump的支持。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 50 还在气我吗？别气啦，好不好？就算是当初我不该教训你、骂你、嘲笑你、讽刺你，可
那都是多少年的事情了？你也贴了几百回电信诈骗犯的帖子，泄愤报仇够了，可以放下
来 move on 了。乖，听哥一句话，网上还有很多人值得你去 Stalk，不用浪费你的青
春盯着我，去吧，我祝福你。 |
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