m*********7
发帖数: 6 | 1 Did someone complain of your dictation because she/he cannot understand it
due to your accent? How you guys handle this issue?
While you are talking to someone, if she/he cannot get it, they will give
you feedback immediately. But the dication???
Any tips are more than welcome! |
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 2 1. talk slowly while you dicate. this is the key point.
2. when you first start and not used to this system, try to write down the
most stuff before you dictate, so you can talk fluently while you read it.
3. when you have problem pronouncing some words, just spell it out,
especially for medications and disease names.
4.at the begining of your intern year, try to avoid using those big words or
complicated sentences. the goal of your dictation is not to look like a
literature, but to document eve |
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k**e
发帖数: 2728 | 3 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
MEIMEIZ2007 (caregiver) 于 (Wed Jun 30 09:44:03 2010, 美东) 提到:
Did someone complain of your dictation because she/he cannot understand it
due to your accent? How you guys handle this issue?
While you are talking to someone, if she/he cannot get it, they will give
you feedback immediately. But the dication???
Any tips are more than welcome!
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againstwind (逆风而行) 于 (Wed Jun 30 10:19:07 2010, 美东) 提到:
1. talk slowly |
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k******1
发帖数: 2883 | 4 明治时期的日本，元首时代的德国，先主席时代的中国，是人类历史的黄金时代。人民
得到了解放，国家从屈辱和灾难中获得了独立，自主和尊严，正义和平等是社会的主流。
非常羡慕那些个黄金时代的年青人，能够参加对马海峡的大海战以寡敌众，全歼俄国波
罗地海舰队，前扑后继，不怕牺牲，把军旗插上203高地；在1940夏天的装甲洪流中穿
过黑森林，跨过法国的原野，打跨法国军队，占领巴黎，在签订屈辱的凡尔赛合约的同
一火车上dicatate法国的停战协定；追随先主席参加二万五千里长征，越过中国雄奇的
千山万水，背着杆38式步枪，从鸭绿江到长津湖，从清川江到汉江汉城，打得米军屁滚
尿流，方不虚此生。
即使1000年过去，这些黄金时代还是让人怀念。
有诗为证：
幾千もの年を越えて 私は今見つけた
幾千回も 生まれ変わって
私たち今は めぐり逢った
あなたと めぐり逢った |
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B*Z
发帖数: 7062 | 5 Hagens Berman: Mercedes Owners File New Lawsuit Stating Mercedes BlueTEC Die
sels Fail Emissions Tests in Nearly All Real World Conditions
NEWARK, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Today, owners of Mercedes BlueTEC diesel automobiles from 13 states filed an
amended class-action lawsuit against Mercedes-Benz USA stating the automake
r knowingly programmed its BlueTEC vehicles to release illegal levels of emi
ssions in virtually all real world driving conditions and likely contain a “
defeat device” used to... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********e
发帖数: 9208 | 6 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38664865/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001
看最后
In the robberies, the suspect waited patiently in line and handed the teller
a note demanding a specific amount of money. Sometimes, he made gestures in
dicating he had a weapon, although agents said there was no indication he ev
er actually used one. Once his demands were met, he exited quietly, fleeing
on foot. |
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g********5
发帖数: 10335 | 7 Volume and Mono is the key? haha
Combined with other TA dicator like MACD/RSI/Money Flow
I am newbee for option trading
Sometimes just watch bid/ask for a while then trade |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 8
Why? Being afraid of having bulky legs? Your hormone dicates that you have
no way to gain bulky muscles. Your testosterone level is 1/20 of that of a
male, who struggles big time to gain muscle after 25. Even if you do intense
weight training, you don't get bulky legs. Not to mention light cardio like
elliptical machines. |
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S**********y
发帖数: 1694 | 9 这个我也不知道，反正我不是很喜欢锻炼腿。可能小时候不知道被谁灌输的腿越跑越粗
之类的，然后每次腿部运动都下意识避免。最喜欢运动手臂。
Why? Being afraid of having bulky legs? Your hormone dicates that you have
no way to gain bulky muscles. Your testosterone level is 1/20 of that of a
male, who struggles big time to gain muscle after 25. Even if you do intense
weight training, you don't get bulky legs. Not to mention light cardio like
elliptical machines. |
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R****a
发帖数: 1492 | 10 Works on me. Did you get dicate brush? I was using sensitive one for the
first 3 month and didn't feel great improvement at all. Changed to delicate
then and it works much better on me |
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c****t
发帖数: 19049 | 11 LETTERS FROM ZEDELGHEM
CHATEAU ZEDELGHEM,
NEERBEKE,
WEST VLAANDEREN
29TH-VI-1993
Sixsmith,
Dreamt I stood in a china shop so crowded from floor to far-off ceiling with
shelves of
porcelain antiquities etc. that moving a muscle would cause several to fall
and smash to bits.
Exactly what happened, but instead of a crashing noise, an august chord rang
out, half-cello,
half-celeste, D major (?), held for four beats. My wrist knocked a Ming vase
affair off its
pedestal—E-flat, whole string section, g... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 12 3:10 In 3:10-18 Paul uses several passages from the OT to demonstrate the th
esis that all people are under sin. The expression just as it is written (ka
qwV" gevgraptai o{ti, kathos gegraptai hoti) indicates that what follows inv
olves citations from the OT. It also shows Paul’s deep conviction that the
OT scriptures correspond to reality as it is found in human experience. He d
id not need to mention the latest human sin to demonstrate his point; he nee
d only refer to passages from the OT. Th... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 13 3:10 In 3:10-18 Paul uses several passages from the OT to demonstrate the th
esis that all people are under sin. The expression just as it is written (ka
qwV" gevgraptai o{ti, kathos gegraptai hoti) indicates that what follows inv
olves citations from the OT. It also shows Paul’s deep conviction that the
OT scriptures correspond to reality as it is found in human experience. He d
id not need to mention the latest human sin to demonstrate his point; he nee
d only refer to passages from the OT. Th... 阅读全帖 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 14 What makes you think you can dicate who can discuss what?
These are all legitimate discussions about Apple. |
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 15 来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 长者的关怀 原来的医院门诊都是电脑系统，所有的记录都是电子化的，用起来非常方便，来到了现
在的医院，可能医院历史长，规模大，反而系统陈旧很多，部分的东西在电脑上，部分
在chart里面，所有的门诊记录都要录音(dictate)，我不是很习惯。今天和一个主治医
生看门诊，看完了她轻轻松松地说，你把病人的记录都dicate一下吧，等我做完已经是
七点多了。
回到办公室，打开email，看到一封新邮件，竟然是以前做住院的医院program
director给我写的信，只是短短的几句话，说，你去了有一个月啦，我都没有听到你的
消息，不知道你现在怎么样啊，有空给我写个信，祝一切顺利。
当时泪水就忍不住流下来了。
在这里给大家道歉，我老是这样jjww，虽然好几次保证不再感情用事了，还是忍不住想
写下来。
我们的program director和其他医院的program director一样，都是很忙的，无穷无尽
的paper work,还要带教住院医生，还要看自己的门诊，想象着他找出我留给他的email
，忙里抽空地写下这几句问候的话，心里就觉得很感动。我和另外几个主治医生都很要
好，因为年龄相似。但是和pr |
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s**********9
发帖数: 54 | 17 Anybody using "Voice Recorder Software"?
It seems to take longer to dictate at the beginning, but at least nobody
complains. |
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f******l
发帖数: 455 | 18 In our program, residents dictate and interns write H&P. The bad thing is we
cannot revise what we dictate. We have to dictate very slowly to avoid
errors. |
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D******e
发帖数: 1085 | 19 are used to.
write down most of the stuff.
a problem or problems
a word, spell it out. some words, spell them out.
beginning.
literature. not a literature.
every aspects of your work.
Just a quick glance.
or |
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u*********6
发帖数: 119 | 23 无聊至极！就你那水平也配在逆风姐的文章中挑刺，要显摆你的英文到其他版去，不要
脏了这个版面的风气！ |
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D******e
发帖数: 1085 | 24 She is the poster child that you dont need to speak/write good English to be a fellow. No wonder Americans dont want to see IMGs.
This board is littered with garbage. People write with fingers not brains. |
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l*******d
发帖数: 449 | 25 "No wonder Americans dont want to see IMGs. " finally you show your
darkside of your mind. |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 26 久违了。风前辈悠然驾鹤而来，忙中有闲啊？
我本来写了一段要发的，可上来一看，竟是在这座五指山里翻腾---都包在这段里面了
，到底是前辈，姜还是老的辣---嫩姜更辣！只是白费我大半小时功夫。不过转念一想
，能和风前辈撞车，悠然暗合，当真自己都很看得起自己。
好在还想得起几点引申和发挥，缘故是以我的烂英文，开始时想必比风前辈困难得多，
所以也多些教训：
1.Talk not only slowly, but loudly and clearly; speak in this way not only
when dictating, but also in every working situation, including presenting a
case!
2.What I do is to print out all my H/P and progress notes, and use my last
sign out as an outline.
3.That's the key!
4.That's the key, 2! Furthermore, use dictation as |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 28 我觉得这样讨论讨论英文，还是挺难得的。
- 口语里条件状语从句，经常略掉“are ”
- most stuff 没错啊？就好比说“most people”
- “have problem”是口语常用词组, 如“Do you have problem in ...?”
- “spell it out”，也是口语，譬如“check it out”, “find it out”,好像没听
见过说them 的？ 无论前面是单数还是复数。
- 对， wrong spelling.
- Maybe, I don't know
- point是个非常重要的概念，我觉得还是原文用的“point”更好。 |
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 29 thanks for pointing out those mistakes, but if we listen to AMG physicians
talking, i am sure we can always find something to pick on, especially when
we are just chatting.
it's a good thing that you pay attention to details and bring this up for
discussion, it's one of the good qualities as a physician.
but please don't attack each other in the forum, especially using my case to
stereotype all other IMGs, i am sure there are lots of chinese physicians
speak much better english than i do.:)
back |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 30
Dr. Xiaoxiao,
很愿意和你进一步讨论。你的英文的确很好，很sophisticated, 很书面。我有个感觉,
就是在医院里呆长了，英文不知不觉就口语化，缘故是大家主要交流都靠口说，而写
病历浮皮潦草、读病历一目十行，没人在意书面语的语法。这对以后要写英文文章的人
，呵呵，的确需要注意。 |
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D******e
发帖数: 1085 | 31 - 口语里条件状语从句，经常略掉“are ”
He used to go to the gym.
He is used to be abused.
The meanings are miles apart. Middle school English.
- most stuff 没错啊？就好比说“most people”
The most stuff is wrong. Most stuff is awkward.
- “have problem”是口语常用词组, 如“Do you have problem?”
When Americans speak, words get connected. Gotta, Hav'a. You dont hear it. It doesnt mean it is not there.
Beat him up is spoken like beaD'imup. Btw, it you speak like this, your American friends are going to be impressed. Another e |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 32 Thank you for comments. My gut feeling, you are still too 书面。For sure
many attendings asked me hundruds of times: "Do you have problem in doing...
?" They know I will have many problemS, but they just ignore 单/复数;
Also whenever an attending finished rounding with me, they knew they
assigned me 10 different tasts, but they just finalized with saying "Go
check it out!". No one said "check'em out".
Maybe attendings had made mistaks too, maybe I was wrong in listening,
anyway I'll pay more attention |
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D******e
发帖数: 1085 | 33 There are 10 posters. Lets check'em out.
If you dont say there are 10 posters, you could just say lets check it out.
Sorry for being a grammar freak. I am just a natural.
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on. |
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f******l
发帖数: 455 | 34 Actually, English is quite informal even in those case reports, I
mean, compared to basic science articles.
觉, |
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j***p
发帖数: 46 | 37 I think it is important to know what is correct (at least). I am happy to
see someone is solidly trained and spend time here to help us
improve English. |
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d****y
发帖数: 2180 | 38 Dr. Newbie 的英文确实很好。以后在这给大家多多指教。 |
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d****y
发帖数: 2180 | 40 这个compare to Vs compare with的比较，很好。谢谢啊 |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 41
or
今天请两个信得过的美国住院医（一男一女）分别看了上面的段子。
先给他们看风前辈的段子，问他们能挑出什么问题。结果他们两人都说，作为口语很不
错啊，只有一个地方，就是not used to this system前面没有are”，的确是个问题，
但是问题在于are used to 如果省略掉are ，变成used to，恰巧有了另外的含义，这
是个特例；一般情况下，如果用别的形容词，把“are”省略掉，往往反而更顺，就譬
如说：When you first start and not familiar with this system, 就比When you
first start and ARE not familiar with this system 听起来更顺耳。
然后我就把 Dr Xiaoxiao 的修正案给他们看，他们都笑说 These are great,but more
used in formal occasion and written English. 他们仍坚持说风前辈的那些原文
are good for informal chatting。 |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 42 我也问了我那个应该是spell it out, find it out, check it out, 还是spell’em
out, find’em out, check’em out的问题，他们好像都没注意过这个问题，最后的意
见都是spell it out, find it out, check it out, etc 里面的it，好像已经成了固
定用法，说起来很顺嘴，不一定是指代前面的名词，当然也无所谓单复数了；
另外，虽然to document every aspect of your work 比to document every point of
your work常用，但是具体到医学领域，很强调point的概念，譬如说 key point,
learning point, directly go to the point, did you get my point?等等。我个人
认为，按照Knockingdown 前辈“抓主要矛盾”的原则，在听写时候，点点（every
point）俱到比面面（every aspect）俱到重要得多，所以还是用every point更胜过 |
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a******0
发帖数: 238 | 43 Someday, If Drnewbie happen to be an intern, first of all, never forget, is
to correct the American residents and attending’s English error, show them
your real English. |
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L******R
发帖数: 23 | 44 I appreciate anyone picking on my English. I used to say"she" and"he" a lot
on the same person and nobody really cared(attending, senior,ms). Last week,
one attending told me with a serious stare"it's he" when I presented to him
a case about a 69 yo female. I think I'm doing much better since then.
Sometimes, you just need some little notches to push you through the painful
transition. |
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