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感觉动作有点儿慢了 收购两个月了 才推出多语言版本 不过请到了Jennifer Lopez
Zynga Takes Draw Something Global With the Help of Enrique Iglesias and
Jennifer Lopez
Zynga Localizes Draw Something in 12 languages and Partners With Enrique
Iglesias and Jennifer Lopez as They Kick-Start Their Joint North American
Tour
SAN FRANCISCO, June 12, 2012 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Zynga, (Nasdaq:ZNGA), the
world's leading provider of social game services, today launches Draw
Something in 12 new languages, providing even more people the chance t... 阅读全帖
l**********o
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会有人掏钱买吗? 很怀疑
社交公司zynga《draw something》登陆微博
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2012年06月14日02:19来源:新华网
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旧金山,北京– 2012年6月13日– 世界领先的社交游戏服务提供商星佳(Zynga)今
天宣布,该公司旗下热门移动社交游戏Draw Something的简体中文版本登陆新浪微博。
这是星佳(Zynga)与中国最大的社交网络之一的新浪的首次合作。此次合作让玩家可以
使用新浪微博来与他们的朋友和家人一起玩本地化的Draw Something。
从今天起,Draw Something有了简体中文的本地化版本,包括简体中文的游戏界面
以及在词义和文化上贴近中文用户的全新的词库。玩家现在可以在App Store免费下载
Draw Something简体中文版本并使用新浪微博帐号登陆游戏。之后,玩家就可以邀请他
们的新浪微博好友一起来玩这个游戏并且将他们的画作分享到新浪微博上。
Draw Something是一款App Store和Google Play平台上的移动社交游戏。自从该游
戏于今年早些时候发布以来,它已经成为一种文... 阅读全帖
f*****g
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - draw的时候到底该不该跟
泛泛而谈不好说。
1)odds还是最基本的,flop上2 cards coming,和turn上只剩一半,情况大不相同。
str8 draw, flush draw, combo draw也不能一概而言,比如str8 draw on a flush
draw board就比较难受,hit了也未必能赢。另一方面,flush draw往往比str8 draw要
显眼,面上3张一色的,很多人都会比较谨慎,所以你hit了可能也不会赢多少;
2)位置很重要很重要很重要,out of position很难受,如果被人看穿,也是1的情况,
不hit花了很多冤枉钱,hit了赢小钱。这种情况下主动bet或者有控制的check raise,
表面上看似多花了一点,总的说来可能还是节省了(比起被动call的话),而且hit了有
可能让对手pay off。
没有位置最大的问题在于,preflop一般你不会太强,比如拿着TJs,89o这样的牌,你
往往可能是limp,而如果别人raise,你call,flop出来,你有draws,你check call,
容易让别人看穿。
3)range,小draw和大draw... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Borgata draw games
The most important thing about Badeucey/Badacey is to play good core split
pot game fundamentals. On the first draw, drawing 2 to a 237r is much much
stronger than drawing one to 2357 but a 3-suit badugi. Not even close when
it's 2357 two-suit. Making the Badugi first should always be top priority
because any decent made Badugi has ~80% equity and holds up a lot better
than 2-7 hands. The only exception to this is if you backdoor into one of
the numbers and even then generally only keep Numb... 阅读全帖
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北京时间4月1日消息,据国外媒体报道,Zynga收购纽约移动社交游戏开发商OMGPOP已
尘埃落定,该公司出现了显著的增长。Zynga原有5500万用户,加上Draw Something的
1460万用户,Zynga每日活跃用户量大增25%。
移动应用跟踪服务AppData提供的数据显示,截至3月末,Draw Something用户量由170
万迅速攀升至1460万。目前,这个数字已经接近Zynga两大热门游戏《城市小镇》(
CityVille)和《德州扑克》(Texas Hold’em Poker)用户量的总和。
未来数月内,Draw Something市场份额还将继续增加。《城市小镇》于2010年底发布,
《德州扑克》的发布时间则更早。过去,两款游戏为Zynga带来了大量的营收。未来,
Zynga仍将继续开发者两款游戏。但是,鉴于游戏的生命周期,它们的增长幅度不可能
超过目前的规模。
Draw Something是一批成色十足的黑马。两月来,Draw Something一直保持着良好的增
长势头,借助Zynga的市场优势,这款游戏势必将继续增长。Draw Something还可帮助... 阅读全帖
W********m
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - how to play combo draw?
"我当时的想法是,正因为我不是nut draw,所以要push off nut straight or nut
flush draw."
如果大家都play draw aggressively, 你这种想法很危险。 combo draw 最怕的就是
nut flush draw. 这也是为十么, nut flush draw 在这种氛围下可以打得更
agressive 一些, 你可能在用A high value 对手的combo draw. 而且,你的combo
draw 是low end, 1 card draw. 很多outs 都可能不是outs, 更应该谨慎一点。 你这
个draw说实话对对手可以flop reshove all in 的牌比实在是太弱了, 我感觉, 对手
reraise 过来,你在flop都没法接

draw.
o******y
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Draw a Person Test 有点意思
无意中看到下面这个,挺有意思的。从没仔细想过画小人可以说明小朋友的智力发展。
前几天正好让孩子画了他自己,胳膊、腿、手指都有,但都像树枝。以前让他画过一次
,胳膊腿是从头出来的,看来现在进步了。
大家也可以让3-5岁的小孩画画看。
http://www.nucleuslearning.com/content/draw-person-test-dap-gre
The way the kids draw the person determines at what mental developmental
stage they are at. You can pretty much test for intelligence with a simple
drawing. At the age of 3 kids start to draw circles and lines, but usually
can't really make a stick figure look like a person. At the age of 4, they
are supposed to start ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Golf版 - how to hit a draw
my observation on few good players I know is that: low handi players tend to
draw naturally.
i never learn how to draw or fade, I watched one session from golf channel
before, in which others were asking VJ how to draw on driver. VJ joked, why
you want to draw? you can not hit straight?
After years playing, now i changed from naturally fade to naturally draw.
But I still prefer hitting it straight if possible. Only use draw or fade
for some specially holes.

fade
body
T*********k
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Did I overplay my combo draw?
Maybe one of the biggest money sucker hand in live poker. Ppl think combo
draw is so strong and they has to play it very aggressively every single
time, as if they think there is no way they can miss the draw.
Numerous times I see ppl put raise / reraise / call with combo draw with
full stack and only see brick turn and river and lost their whole stack with
100bb+, 150bb or more.
Even worse, every poker book will tell you you get right odds to call almost
every hand so ppl think they played noth... 阅读全帖
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Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:55:24 PDT
ThinkiOS reports (via 9to5Mac) that it has received a pair of drawings
claimed to be of the "iPad mini" from a source in China.
The drawings are rather simplistic in nature, and several other
inconsistencies make it difficult to believe that they are genuine drawings
based on the actual design of the rumored product. The most glaring
inconsistency is the aspect ratio of the display on the drawing, which we
estimate at very close to 1.40. The iPad mini has been rum... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Archery版 - when to stand-and-draw
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/whitetail-365/2012/10/when-
By Will Brantley
My wife, Michelle, has been bowhunting for the past five years. Though she
killed a couple deer with a bow during her second and third season in the
woods, she also blew a plethora of “gimme” opportunities. That’s part of
it.
But she killed a nice buck the second week of Kentucky’s bow season last
year, and after that, something clicked. She arrowed two deer right out of
the gate during opening week this year, inclu... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: kingcw (无语了), 信区: NewYork
标 题: Looking for an artist who can draw really good
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 20 14:02:09 2012, 美东)
Looking for an artist who can draw really good, and have a fantasy/sci-
fiction mind. Basically I tell you what I want, you can draw and add details
yourselves. This is for a short film pre-production stage, and the drawings
will become 3d models, and render into the movie, you'll get credits. No
pay or cheap package if you are really good, so ... 阅读全帖
s*****s
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - how to play combo draw?
1. 这种flop,他既然bet肯定是有牌的,但他只是call my check raise, 那么他不是
set or straight, 应该是pair+draw或者two pairs. 他是在UTG open的,所以最可能
是AQ,KQ,或者AcJc,也许会是QJ,JT suited但不是club,再有就是AA,KK了。
2. 我turn bet就是准备river all in的,根据这选择的bet size. 我希望的是他的
pair+draw牌比如AQ也许会call turn,但call不了river all in.
3. Qing兄说的有道理,我这个不是nut draw, 也许不应该这么aggressive. 我当时的
想法是,正因为我不是nut draw,所以要push off nut straight or nut flush draw.

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平卡斯还是很厉害的 思路广
Zynga And CBS Are Working To Bring Draw Something To Primetime TV
RYAN LAWLERposted 35 mins ago Comments
So you wondered how Zynga was gonna make money off its $210 million
acquisition of OMGPOP? How about this: Hit game title Draw Something will
soon be at the center of a new primetime game show, according to a report by
Variety. The show’s pilot, which was picked up by CBS after an apparent
bidding war, will be produced by Sony Pictures Television, Ryan Seacrest
Productions, and ... 阅读全帖
k****w
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Looking for an artist who can draw really good, and have a fantasy/sci-
fiction mind. Basically I tell you what I want, you can draw and add details
yourselves. This is for a short film pre-production stage, and the drawings
will become 3d models, and render into the movie, you'll get credits. No
pay or cheap package if you are really good, so this is for students or
hobbyist. If you know someone who are good at drawing, please let them know,
:). Email links to your work to me at k****[email protected]... 阅读全帖
v*****r
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来自主题: Golf版 - appreciate the draw - left to right
it's hard to hit draw with low loft clubs, such as Driver and 3wood.
especially if you have a fade bias. i have slice bias, so i never hit any
draw with Driver or 3wood, it does not help that my swing is not in good
form yet.
post something when you work it out with draw. it's going to be fun to be
able to work the ball,either avoid wind or left turning dog leg fairway.
发信人: ET (Go on. Be a Tiger.), 信区: Golf
标 题: appreciate the draw - left to right
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 23 21:58:26 2009), 站内
ET
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来自主题: Golf版 - 接着讨论fade / draw
还是觉得fade不靠谱,主要是距离上没优势。
golf channel那解说,叫啥来着,也赢过几次british open,不是曾做过实验吗?
fade carry 245码,draw carry 268码,
而且draw的球对抗顶风效果好多了。
dogleg left/right其实首先还是要carry到转的地方,剩下的靠球的fade/draw,如果
carry distance到不了的话,fade/draw的落点正好到挡住视野的地方。
这从back tee击球的话最明显。
y**********7
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来自主题: Golf版 - 接着讨论fade / draw
ET说"还是觉得fade不靠谱,主要是距离上没优势。" 我倒觉得voyiger所说的"power
fade"有道理. 我自己就有这样的经验, FADE比DRAW要打得远. 我的FADE可击出280至
290码, 而DRAW最多只能打到270码. 我觉得FADE可令我较轻易地把全身的力都灌到球上
. 双手的力相等. 打DRAW, 右臂力要稍大一点.
另外, 界于FADE和SLICE之间的右曲球和界于DRAW和HOOK之间的左曲球完全是可控的.
能打出这两种球对提高成绩很有帮助. 打左曲球和右曲球不仅仅在绕开障碍时有用, 在
弯曲的球道上开球也是效果很好. 可大大提高FAIRWAY HIT RATE 和开球距离.
最近常在一个海边的球场打球. 这球场SLOPE是130, 大约有九个洞的球道从开球后七八
十码就开始弯曲了. 如果打直线球, 打远了就会出球道, 打近了又没距离. 但如果能打
出曲线球, 情况就大不一样了, 可以既有距离, 球又落在球道上. 上个星期四有意打出
了几个左曲球和右曲球, 效果奇佳, 明天我要再试试.

dogleg left/right其实首先还是要carry到转的
a***x
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来自主题: Golf版 - how to hit a draw
Draw and Fade are all very visualized shots. Jack Nicklaus said : "always
aim your club head square where you want the ball drop, align your body to
where you want the ball start."
Here is my routine:
1.pick the target line, pick the start line. Visualize the whole ball flight
trace in mind.
2.take the normal stance parallel to the start line,ball in normal position.
3.adjust club face open(fade) or close(draw), aim it square to the target
line.
4,take normal,nature grip. don't need to be strong... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Golf版 - how to hit a draw
When the club face is slightly closed (facing to the left of your swing
direction), it is a draw. Slightly open gets your a fade.
Set up posture is one of the way. Some better golfers I play with control
the degree of draw by changing the timing of wrist turn or altering swing
plane. Martin hall at School of Golf talked about how to hit draw. The urban
legend way is that slow swing brings a draw and fast swing brings a fade.
try it.

I
fail
A*f
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来自主题: Golf版 - 再问个fade/draw的问题
VJ 有一次回答关于怎么打fade or draw. Why can you just hit straight?
The thing is it is not easy to hit straight. If you could, why not.
If you don't, you need do calculation, should I avoid one side, which side
is safer? Then, you need check your tendency to draw or fade. 所以要打fade和
draw
当然,if you watched last year how Bubba won the masters, you know why some
time knowing draw or fade could be very useful.
T*********e
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - [合集] 最近在看quick draw
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pinkeverlast (pink) 于 (Thu May 21 22:19:07 2009) 提到:
我想买all purpose的,轻的,clip比较smooth的。看了不少分享下吧
专门为sports climbing设计的quick draw一般dogbone都比较粗,挂上以后不会随便转
方向。all purpose的draw会用比较细的sling, 挂在bolt上会多多少少转点方向。如果
要很快地clip就容易back clip。而且wire gate虽然轻,clearance大,但clip起来没
有bent gate快,所以比较serious的人sports和trad的quick draw是分开的两套。但我
是觉得除非你sports天天爬5.12+,而且一直在push limit,all purpose的没啥区别。
我用过的两种专门为sports设计的draw
1. Black Diamond类似livewire的一种,现在BD网站上已经看不到了
2. Petzl Spirit: o
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - nut flush draw against deep stack
dusty recommends the same way you played with nut flush draw or even non nut
flush draw.
hitting a flush draw against deep stack has great implied odds, but of
course, you'll miss x% of time too. nothing wrong, but simple odds in the
LONG term.
to me, A5s might be a little weaker in general unless you have a gutshot
wheel draw too. AKs or AQs will give you better odds with TP hits too.
F**S
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - [新手讨论]Flush Draw打法
新年第一次去AC,顶着失眠去的,还以为状态不会太好,没想到最后虽然只是小赢,但
是节奏却抓得很对。五个小时赢了24把。。
最后总结下来就是尽管我是Tight甚至weak类型,但是我们那桌竟然比我更Tight,更
Weak。。基本我拿到大牌或者对子,preflop $7 肯定有人跟,就算flop没击中,bet $
15就一个个缴械投降了。。
这里贴一手Flush draw得牌,我还是觉得不知道该怎么打,请各位指点。
Me(MP):As 6s
Preflop: EP bet$17, I call, LP call
Flop:10s Ks Jh
EP Bet $27, I call, LP all in ($150), I have $200
我应该怎么办?我有flush和straight draw,outs不算A我有12, 赢面大概是50%, 但
是我觉得为draw这种东西去all in很不值阿。。
前面我玩的几把也是有draw,因为bet得小,一般$30以内得我都愿意去call。但是一般
放到50以上我就不太会考虑了
t*********t
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我偶尔去南加附近的赌场打打扑克,遇见了好几次Flush Draw,都是All In输了。我具
体记得的有如下几手。恳请大家指点指点。
1/3 and 2/5 NL cash game. Both had decent stacks (75 to 150 BB). Most
players were tight aggressive and a few were loose passive.
~~
Hand 1 - 1/3 NL.
Hero (BB): AA
Preflop: Several limped in. Hero raised to 15. Two cold called.
Flop: 3h4h9c. Hero raised to 25. One folded. Villain (CO) raised to 50. Hero
shoved. Villain turned up his cards, 2h8h, and examined Hero for several
minutes and asked Hero if he wanted him to call. Hero w... 阅读全帖
g******n
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我的经验是赌场很多人有赌性,喜欢draw。如果你在flop推all in, 对方有两张牌可以
看,很多人会draw flush 或者strait。如果你只是bet个pot size,让他们多看一张牌
,如果他们在turn上没draw到,这时你all in,他们很多会fold。但也不完全是,比如
Ace high flush draw的人会call 到底,或者short stack的也会call.
e********9
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遇到这种情况,感觉真心无解
我有用flush + gut shot straight draw 干翻别人的时候
也有top pair被straight draw打败的时候
也有苦等两条街flush + straight draw不中的时候
我是新手,在pokerstar玩$7的tournament
不少人喜欢这样的semi-bluff
策略只能是愿赌服输吧
http://www.pokerology.com/lessons/drawing-odds/
8 outs turn+river 31.5%
8 outs river 17.4%
9 outs turn+river 35%
9 outs river 19.6%
概率是不是给top pair或set很多信心?
倒底出什么牌只有上帝知道
R**********n
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不知道每个公司的 shop drawing 都是谁检查的? 是刚进来的人专门负责检查别人的
shop drawing 吗? 检查别人设计的觉得很亏啊,自己签字,是不是谁签字出了事情就
睡负责啊?
公司里一个欧洲的本科生,没有在美国受过教育。 水平没开出怎么样,我这样的
Entry Level 的都可以经常找出他的错误,仗着自己是白人,对少数民族很不客气。
今天我检查shop drawing, 他做的设计,因为设计的疏漏,shop drawing 需要修改,
我对他的修改意见不同意,拒绝签名,这家伙竟然想强迫我按他的意见改,签我的名字
,结果两个人吵了起来。我知道这家伙在老板面前很受宠, 我也不是怕多干点活受累
,但我觉得原则问题不能让步。 准备明天早晨给几个老板发一封邮件,说明一下情况。
不知道兄弟姐妹们有没有遇到过类似的情况,都是怎么处理的, 谢谢。
j**g
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来自主题: Psychology版 - The Pig Drawing Personality Test
(here is the game, the answer will be posted later, hehe...... have a try and
see the result)
The best part about this is that you can forward it round your office and then
laugh at everyone’s crap drawings. We are thinking about setting up a small
pig art gallery in the corner of the office here.
Don't cheat by reading the whole thing first!
Get a blank piece of paper , draw a picture of a whole pig on it, not just the
head , just a basic drawing though , don't spend too long on it .
DRAW THE
w*******y
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h*******e
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来自主题: _Xiyu版 - Xiyu Open-Draw will be held tomorrow
For those who didn't get the email:
Draws:
An open draw will be made by the Tournament Director and the Tournament
Referee. Anyone interested can come to observe. It will be held at United
Badminton Club on Saturday 6/25 from 2pm to 4pm. Please check in at the
front desk. Due to space constraints, only up to the first 10 people will be
allowed.
Draws will be made following USAB Tournament Regulations as much as
reasonably possible http://usabadminton.org/resources/rules/usa-badminton-tournament... 阅读全帖
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买了块地建了一个房子,close的时候builder说原定银行给他们5个draw,他们只用了3
个。告诉我们可以找银行要回其他两个draw。联系了银行以后,lender说他们没有这个
政策,没有返还。这种情况可以ague吗
ET
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来自主题: Golf版 - fade or draw
draw increases the distance. it seesm it has been well-known. That's the
reasonT Taylormade has some Draw-series club releaed last year, and claims
those clubs help increase the distance.
However, last night's TV show grand slam clinic, Tiger said:" I found out
fade makes ball longer...."
faint..
The host was asking, "Tiger, which you prefer to hit , draw or fade, to be
the most important thing for your game?"
Tiger answers: score. no matter which shot, the final score matters.
v*****r
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来自主题: Golf版 - practice hitting draw
still some work to correct fundamentals (loss of posture during backing, no
proper pronation/supination during down swing, lack of core stability)
get ahead trying to hit draw last week at range, mostly for fun and
understanding.
using the following instruction
http://www.ehow.com/how_1166_hit-draw-shot.html
**3i, mostly straight, maybe a little bit bend from right to left
**woods, and driver, --- could not draw at all, often push, even blocked
slice sometimes.
I guess the loft is small for dri
ET
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来自主题: Golf版 - appreciate the draw - left to right
no good.. especially, for beginner..
don't think about it right now. working on the "pull" movement of your swing
..
later on, you'll realize how to hit draw/fade/cut and so on..
it's more like timing thing.
for me, draw makes more sense for a certain direction wind since draw is not
that easy to control. u remembered when 90% ameatuer is afraid of the slice
, 90% of pros worry about their left side.
so...
A*f
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来自主题: Golf版 - 接着讨论fade / draw
"pro draw, beginner slice"
是不是FADE两次就觉得回到解放前了
记得上次去打球,TEE OFF之后,FAIRWAY左边的树旁边前组有人在准备打
同组人赶紧提醒我
我笑了笑:我的球不会跑左边
我的球SLICE的多,DRAW很少
个人感觉,EXTREME SHOULDER TURN的时候容易DRAW,自然也远
不知道对不对
看MASTERS的时候,TEENEGER的那一组, 好象全都是很大的shoulder turn with
extreme followup.

些球
creek
了。
了。
y**********7
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来自主题: Golf版 - 接着讨论fade / draw
The power fade is an advanced golf shot that has been used for years, but recently mastered and brought to the forefront of the golf game by young players such as Tiger, Phil Mickelson, and Ernie Els. For advanced players, the power fade adds a whole new element to one's arsenal of shots... but do not mistake the power fade for the ballooning-megaslice that is hit by most amateur golfers.
我体会 power fade 就是能比DRAW打得更远的FADE. 而且球落下后比DRAW造成的滚动要稳定. 以前我喜欢DRAW, 因为球可以跑得远一点.现在我觉得球落地后乱滚是添乱, 弊大于利.
a***x
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来自主题: Golf版 - High draw
For driver, fade or power fade give me more predictable results for me on
narrow fairway even usually 10-20 yards shorter than draw. Maybe because my
nature swing tendency is outside-in, up-right and body open at impact. If I
have to hit a draw shot, I have to pay extra attention on lot's of small
pieces (stance, grip ,ball position, swing path, etc...)to make a good shot
. Draw shot is not my body nature swing, therefore I spent a lot of time on
driving range on it but still not good at it.
"F... 阅读全帖
t***u
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俺非高手。
试过把杆子调成Draw,没觉得有什么区别。可能是我用杆面瞄准,Draw设定时不自主的
把grip改弱,结果反向补偿了。不明白为什么现在市面上的Driver都要加这个概念,增
加成本嘛。
觉得消除Slice还是要从技术上入手,那才是长治久安,不然到今后hook出现后,不是
又得换杆子。
假如LZ本来就要买杆子,就买可调的好了,Draw,fade随你设。现在大部分新杆子都有
这功能。
C******s
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我也比较同意你的观点。器材绝对是捷径,当年俺刚开始打球的时候,用的球叫做
Balata,现在的ProV1或者同类的球,那可真是强太多了。铁杆和木杆也是一样,我觉
得offset的杆不会影响你技术的进步,高手可以用任何杆(offset或者不offset),想
打draw就打draw,想打fade就打fade,而且99%会击中甜点。在达到这个水平之前,对
绝大多数人来说,有offset或者draw biased的杆还是有帮助的。

FORM
t***u
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来自主题: Golf版 - 再问个fade/draw的问题
记得Tiger还是谁说过:“打直线是最难的”,一般人的球路,不是偏左就是偏右。还
有一个文章讲对于一般选手来讲,最好是练一种球路:Fade或者Draw,他的观点是假如
你练直线,你还是可能偏左或偏右,以开球为利,假如你的左右偏差范围各是30码,打
直线的需要一个宽达60码的Fairway才有足够缓冲,而练曲球的只要30码。
实际比赛中情况更复杂,比如有的时候,要求你把球放到Fairway右侧以获得最好的下
一杆进攻位置,而右侧fairway外是Hazard,这时候fade选手一般描偏中间,这样基本
落点在中部到右侧;直线选手比较纠结,苗右侧怕打出fade,描中间怕打出Draw;Draw
选手脸发黑,因为他基本没有办法把球放到右侧,只能稍稍瞄右,希望球落在中部,假
如球落到右边,那一定不是故意的。
这些对业余选手影响不大,对高手而言,胜负本就在毫厘之间,能多掌握一种武器,一
杆之差价值百万千万,有理由不好好练嘛。
ET
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来自主题: Golf版 - 再问个fade/draw的问题
risk management - that's all.
如果你能打直,次次都直,而且距离都正确,那自然好。
而有些时候,必须要考虑,如果距离不对,如果不那么直,那么你最保险的打法是什么。
这个道理和,如果我次次都slice,我还不如就把目标定在左边,我slice的球会自然回
到球道上。
攻果岭一样,从球到旗杆的位置,如果近球杆处没沙坑,水坑,那打直线就可以。如果
旗杆在沙坑后,旗杆左边有大片的果岭且没有沙坑,那么保险的打法是冲果岭中间安全
的地方击,如果能fade一点,自然球会更靠近旗杆些。
现实的球场设计中,没有什么球洞一定要求需要fade/draw, 都是一个risk/reward
的过程。
我个人建议是,如果你不是2-4 handicap的,其实别想打出什么fade/draw来靠近球洞
,或开球时把球挺在更合理的球道上。我们没能力能控制这个结果。
我个人的观察,Rickie flower这几次比赛,特别时最后一轮,就是这些想法太多。在
压力下,很难执行好的,就是你知道如何打出fade/draw的技巧。
a**y
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来自主题: Golf版 - 再问个fade/draw的问题
fade 和 draw 的carry 距离是一样的(假设角度一样),只不过draw落地以后蹦得远
。打过乒乓球就知道,draw就像上旋球如弧圈球,落在桌子上往前蹦,因为球是向前旋
转,桌面的反作用力向前。fade的球像下旋球,向后旋转,落桌后蹦不远甚至向后跳如
果很转的话:)你看乒乓高手搞笑打出球往后跳过网,就是很转的下旋:)
ET
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来自主题: Golf版 - 再问个fade/draw的问题
这个答案不正确。
fade/draw的carry 距离一定不 一样的。太多的事实能证明这一点。
从理论上看,fade/draw的产生,或者说slice/hook的产生,和手腕最后有没有
release很有关系,
手腕的release不仅能保证球的直飞,而且送给球额外的能量。
一个简单的例子,用手平抛出一个球,想想想抛出fade/draw,体会下手腕和手指如何
给球加力或不加力。
n***a
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来自主题: Soccer版 - [合集] 这下有趣了,CL draw
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justnth (虚) 于 (Fri Mar 14 08:16:28 2008) 提到:
Champions League draw
Champions League quarter-final draw:
1 Arsenal v Liverpool
2 AS Roma v Man Utd
3 Schalke 04 v FC Barcelona
4 Fenerbahce v Chelsea
Champions League semi-final draw:
1 Arsenal/Liverpool v Fenerbahce/Chelsea
2 Schalke/Barcelona v AS Roma/Man Utd
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Bellamy (Orange Crush) 于 (Fri Mar 14 08:34:14 2008) 提到:
欧足联的人那么喜欢看罗马和曼联比赛啊

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a*****0
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Often see the draws in tournaments have a note like draw-line 7, draw-line 0
, etc. What does this mean?
t***h
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来自主题: Tennis版 - Live stream broadcast -- US open Draw
draw has set already. Now, It is ceremony to release the draw.
currently going Lady's draw. Mens should be in 15 mins.
c***h
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - nut flush draw against deep stack
dusty's book is definitely mind-refreshing. The strategies he recommended,
if not used properly, could be big leaks.
The all-in w/ nut flush draw totally depends on the fold equity you can get.
drawing hand (except combo draw) is always underdog against made hands.
Fold equity is used to compensate the equity gap. However, if my opponent
shows strength and is not willing to fold (raise,re-raise,...), then the all
-in push is questionable.
In the hand, the villian finally showed AA, although his
W********m
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Over play draws?
This hand came last night.
EP raise 75c (10$ short stack) I call with 8h7h. I have 26$. bb calls as
well who has be covered.
flop is Jh10h6c. I have a flush draw and a gut shot straight draws.
EP lead very small 50c ( i was surprised there how small the bets are) so I
raised to 1.50$ to play aggressively with the draw. bb called. EP all of a
sudden raised to 8$ almost all in.
What do I do here? If it is just me and EP heads up i might just have the right price to call but with BB still in w
f*****g
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - flush draw 要不要call flop over bet
很难call,你的牌其实很弱。
1)wet flop(5-way limped pot pre),他over bet,而你只是check call,基本上都会
把你当drawing hands的了;
2)而他,显然很不喜欢这个flop,拿Tx这么玩的,很勉强,如果真是两小时没有raise
过的人,weak-tight不会那么狠protect a weak hand的;
3)turn Q,如果flop他只是Tx的TP牌,那么这个Q帮到他的可能性很小,他(again,
weak tight)应该有所顾忌才是,而它反而更凶,愿意all-in剩下的钱。说明很大程度
他认为你是在draw,而不是trap,再退一步,即使你不是draw,而是weak Tx的话,你
也有可能pay him off;
4)而你这里看似好像最多还有9+3+2=14 outs,odds勉强能够,但实际上可能只有7,8
个的样子,因为他这里有小set的机会很大,最烂也是T9 2 pair这样的牌;
5)他也拿AhXh的可能性几乎为零,不是weak tight的风格。
所以说turn上再发力,往往晚了,因为你的机会只剩一半,而... 阅读全帖
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