n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 1 Nadal's draw is very difficult. Soderling-Murray-Djokovic. |
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L***z
发帖数: 454 | 2 Really hate to see this draw. I was hoping that there would be a third or
fourth round match between Nadal and Del Potro and, hopefully, a Del Po vs
Joker final. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 3 这就叫difficult啦，come on. 进到Quater以后都该出状态了，tough draw
得看Quater以前的吧？ |
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n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 4 I agree with you that Berdych has tougher draw than Nadal/Djokovic.
better
to |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 5 i think murray has the best draw, very likely to get into the semi this time |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 aglee. Murray's draw is super.
time |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 8 If Li Na has to meet Serena Williams, it's a better draw for Li Na to meet
her in 1/8, not the final. Serena Williams has unstoppable Grand Slam Final
record, 16 win 3 lost, and 2 lost was to her sister. Only one other player
in the past beat her in Final.
Serena Williams seems usually not fully excited in early round. Li Na, on
the other hand, appears reaching her peak performance around 1/8 match in
the past AO and FO. |
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Q*****i
发帖数: 1126 | 9 我把标题看成了US Open Party draw is out...
一看， ID 都不太熟.... |
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t**i
发帖数: 387 | 10 Murray gets easy draw until QF to meet Soderling or Del P |
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s*********d
发帖数: 2406 | 11 other than the rank
the head to head is another way to compare in the draw
I am not sure, but nadal got the easy one from time to time.
Nevertheless, winner is winner, |
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n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 12 It's the actual opponent, not the draw.
Plus, the calculation equals meeting two players ranking 50 & 51 en route
with meeting two players ranking 1 & 100. That is not very reasonable.
At least they should use 1/Ranking # to estimate the average strength of
opponent. |
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t******r
发帖数: 1036 | 13 Murray is in the same half with Federer.
Li Na is in the same quarter with Aggie. Then Sharapova in semi.
Azarenka will play Serena for the final.
Best draw for Li cause she play the weakest in the top 4.
Worst for Azarenka cause she'll be the first to lose 10 consecutive matches
to Serena. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 14 Good draw for both Murray and Joker. |
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a****7
发帖数: 295 | 16 Nadal's draw is above average. |
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y********a
发帖数: 953 | 17 Nadal has the most difficult draw! |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 18 Fabio is unlucky. The ranking of these four players in Madrid draw is 13, 18
, 19, 20. They take 16 seeds then randomly assigned others. |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 19
oh, 所以说draw-line 7是一个player ID。 谢。 |
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l**a
发帖数: 12455 | 20 你是费德勒就想知道draw？给你跟纳豆分一起，你慢慢爽吧，lol |
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d****z
发帖数: 9761 | 21 怎么会了，赛前准备都是要研究对手的啊，有的不过是自己不想多想，但是DRAW一出来
教练一般都心中规划好了，一路走下去会碰到谁 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 RafaNadal 俱乐部 】
发信人: daydayup2009 (天天向上), 信区: RafaNadal
标 题: 这次温网draw还算可以
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 26 10:07:15 2015, 美东)
先说3/4区
那豆最大的幸运,16强分到假牛, 前三轮唯一个大炮是斯图加特刚赢过的特洛伊.最大的
不幸,8强对决姆雷,不过能到8强算是完成任务了,再进一步就是超额了.姆雷浅表不错,
虽然有宋家在那边,但宋家好像有伤,状态不明朗.
1/4区, 这一区大炮不少，安德森，以斯内尔， 扬诺维茨，西里奇。小德有点小倒霉,
第一轮长名男,第二轮休伊特.日本龟估计会被大炮轰死。
2/4区，运气最好的是斯丹,8强前无强手,拉神,沙拉波夫,可耶高斯竟然同一个1/8区,将
争夺和斯丹对决的另一个八强位置.
4/4区， 最后看看老费, 前三轮有机会遭遇两门美国大炮, 8强要么对博迪奇或孟菲.
总体感觉,浅表很平均,没有特别容易的 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 23 ATP #775, teach pro Marcus Willis qualifies for Wimbledon
main draw.
此前最佳战绩是challenger赢过1场。 |
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D*******e
发帖数: 12862 | 25 流氓 vs federer 4th round...
老费的draw不甚好... |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 27 This guy could only have made flush or set if people followed common sense
not to bluff the multiway pot especially this highly coordinated board. If
you play by math, the odds never jutify the call to put 240 more for 390. I
think there was exact same situation on 06 wsop, the aussie guy who won it
fold top pair nut flush draw to a raise on flop and the othe guy got set.
But in ring game, it's not much fun to fold the hand like this. Also there
maybe donks in blind calling K7s or even 37s for |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 28 and it's a non-nut straight draw, easy fold.
call
blind
if |
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p*t
发帖数: 275 | 29 then why call? just a str8 draw.. |
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h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 30 if just work on the odds,
3 to 1 odds for 8+ outs, call.
but since the board has also flush draw beats you,
i won't call.
so
one
I |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 31 NL 200( commerce last night)
I got QQ bet 20$ under the gun , small and big blind called, flop Kh3s5s,
both
Checked to me , I bet 30$ , big blind called( no image), turn is 10c, he
checked again.
What should he have, slow play or flush draw, should check here or bet again? |
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h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 32 how can you know it's a slow play before he reraise you?
i'll just bet 50, just not to give odds for any draw.
again? |
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h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 33 i'd look them quite different.
since a value bet is only possible when there's no draw is hit on the river.
think
lose
ll |
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h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 34 for he has 33, 55, or Kx,
you are doomed to lose big here.
otherwise, i just bet as i'm holding AK.
hoping he folds and don't chase the draw anymore.
half
for |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 35 21?
combo draws + 2 over cards?
game |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 Here is another interesting hand. I thought for a long time. at first i
thought the turn call was terrible. but then i feel it was a ok call more
and more.
NL 10 effectively stack 100bb
MP raise 30c, i am CO with QQ and reraise to 1.20$, MP call
flop 3 small cards with 2 heart. MP check, I pot to make it simple with the
flush draw on board.
turn is another small cards.. no heart. MP check again. pot is close to 5$,
i have another pot size bet left. so i shoved. he calls with AK of heart.
River |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 with nut flush draw plus two big cards, re-shoving flop is a standard play,
as suggested by dusty.
he got 15 outs and is a favorite to win over most of hands. plus, he could
force many other hands (which are winning now) to fold right here (he could
represent some other hands as well here). plus, he could force bluffers to
give up...
a lot of power here...
the
, |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 38 fold or shove for me really at this spot. Normally i would have folded,
because i felt bb have something good and would come along. Then i feel i
would be even in better shape if he comes along without a flush draw.. so i shoved.... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 39 i can't call here but probably should not have shoved either.. sb does play
like he has a flush draw.... marginal play.. was in the mood to gamble.. I was not behind Ep much though after flop.. almost 50 50. I read sb wrong.
uploaded
going
the
and |
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f*****t
发帖数: 106 | 40 估计对方是有top pair或者其他，不断地raise,这时候draw的人怎么做比较好，just
Call and see,还是反raise，semi bluff？ |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 41 KING真是又专业又nice ah。that is pretty much it for cash game. my 2cents
for tournament, depends on opponent and stage of tourney, in early
stage when everyone is deep, I tend to call with big implied odds.
in late stage when stack-pot ratio is small, check-raise cbet all in as
semi-bluff is fine.
同。
flush
draw要
情况，
raise，
hit了有
牌，你 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 42 Any pot bet makes draw not profitable, if no consideration on stack/implied
odds. If pot on turn after pot on flop, better fold.
Lead out at out-of-position is much better. If pot is small, overbet. The
TP guy will just call on flop and turn. |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 43 That's good. Good experiences. You will feel very comfortable in the future
when you have 4个大pot连续被9% draw out.
At the first time I lose 20+ BI in one single day, I was panic. The second
time, I was just upset. Later when it happened again the third/forth time, I
just told myself "It happens, move on" |
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t****t
发帖数: 95 | 44 On the flop, what do you do when your opponent is on a flush draw and
pushes
all-in first, while you have the top set or straight flopped? |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 45 I can't agree with you more. Excellent points.
When ppl talk about long term, we have to put players in the context.
For poker pros or ppl can play everyday, the long term could mean a year, 2
years. But for recreational players who only play 30-50 sessions a year, the
long term could mean really long. Thus stack size should be a huge factor
in our decision making process. You lose 2-3 big pots in 60% vs 40% or 55%
vs 45% situation in one session, sometimes it takes you 1-2 month or even
longer ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 46 i bet the btn will fold, if X'd, TP or FD. Calling is
fine to pretend weak OOP. If he is in draw, he will lead out on
turn. I doubt he will lead out on turn w/ TP. |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 47 I'd call. I think he is testing if you have real strong hand like set. his
raise is rarely for value here and your read how likely he make a raise with
drawing hand is very important to make this decision
he |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 48 With flush and straight draw there, I would reraise 200 more for value. I
don't think he was making a move with only a raise of 100 more.He could have
JJ or QQ or even A10. You need to get the money in when you have the best.
Plus, a spade or a 5 or 2 on the turn could slow down the action.
he |
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a********2
发帖数: 2 | 49 朋友说这里有扑克论坛，过来转转。果然很多高手和好文。
有人常去AC的Borgata吗？ 那里mixed game 不错，especially after they added
draw games late last year.
如果有Baduci or Badaci 的高手，如不介意可以post 一下。网上这方面的
information very rare. |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 50 I probably used too many Badugi / Triple Draw terminology in last post. Will
break it down over weekend when I have more time :) |
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