e*******e 发帖数: 1837 | 1 今天又demo了三付ski,发现真的是demo过了才知道自己喜欢什么。
现在对高级的All mountain ski彻底死心了,Atomic引以为豪的edge gripping对我来
说实在是痛苦。越来越喜欢freeride,到目前感觉最好的就是这个Dynastar Big
Trouble Limited (176cm),92cm underfoot, soft on tips, stiff underfoot,
floating and turn on powder like nobody's business. demo的地方这幅ski这个
season已经被滑过28次了,可见它的流行。
在网上看了看价钱,于是又有了问题:
binding一般是要买同一个牌子的么?92mm是不是要买宽的break了?网上的binding好像
都很贵的样子.:-(
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q*c 发帖数: 17993 | 3 http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/101395/rocker-demos-some-ro
感兴趣的可以读一读:
My experience with rocker had mostly centered around Volkl skis. Finally
got to demo a bunch of other brands the last 2 days and I came away very
unimpressed with most of them. I now see why some people have such a
negative reaction to rocker - some of these skis are crap in anything other
than powder.
Let's start at the top - feel free to disagree! All were tested on Snowbird
hardpack/bumps(no fresh snow)
Volkls ELP ... 阅读全帖 |
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b******r 发帖数: 1137 | 5 dynastar skicross 9 04' model, $240. yummy!
princeton ski shop has 20% off everything's lowest ticketed price, plus an
extra 20% on dynastar skis. sales end on Saturday. |
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D***e 发帖数: 157 | 6 I am in the market for my first pair of skis. I'm somewhat into moguls but
don't want to give up other terrains in a resort. So, I am looking for a
pair that would be good in the bumps but mainly a strong, all-mountain ski
of the west coast.
There are a few candidate below
Dynastar legend 8000
Volkl karma
Dynastar Twister
Rossi B1
Volkl Rebellions
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N**D 发帖数: 10322 | 8 Dynastar Big Trouble Limited Alpine Skis, 166cm, 124 / 92 / 114mm
and
Dynastar PX 12 Lifter Wide Ski Binding
Binding has been mounted in the ski shop, and waxed, and NEVER uesd
current setup is Type I skier and 26.5 shoe size.
You will need to find a ski shop to adjust for you
sac上买的,从来没用过, mount 之后
成本价,要seattle 附近的
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P*****s 发帖数: 263 | 9 前二个月,偶尔发现这个雪山飞狐版,高手林立。潜水多日,非常喜欢。对南海神尼等
各位高手由衷钦佩。看到Line Prophet 100 vs Mantra的那个贴,恨不得钻地洞里。如
果早看到,俺就不会买错雪板了。本来想在那里插嘴跟贴,注册了个ID,居然不让发帖
。今天这算第一帖,很多行规和术语还没看懂。经常看到斑竹给包子,好事还是坏事?
肉包子还是菜包子?好像高手发言都是三言二语的,俺写一大篇,是不是违反规矩?不
过确实有问题向高手请教,包子还是窝头也管不了那么多了。
上周末去了趟Kirkwood。NN多年前去过一次,早就记不清楚啥样儿了。这次就跟第一次
一样,很新鲜。雪场人不多,不用排队。REI或者Sports Basement有卖$50/二张成人票
。所有周日小孩免费。一家四口花50块钱滑了一天,很过瘾。上周日还是最后一天可以
用当天的票钱用来买下年度的季票,外带免费buddy ticket和BBQ。Kirkwood雪场开到
五月一号。其实还有不少雪,但是人少雪场不赚钱,就关了。五月和六月份只能去
Squaw和Mammoth滑雪了。
白天太阳很足,夜晚下点小雪。见到有不少人穿短袖短... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******r 发帖数: 1285 | 13 非常漂亮的板子吧!
如果你跟我一樣是外貌協會的 - Samba 是最漂亮的板子了!
我駕馭她 N 次了! :)
優點: 深雪亂雪磨菇超好轉!
缺點: 切冰切硬雪無法跟我另一付 Dynastar Speed Course Ti 比!
(但是凡事都難兩全嘛!)
長度: 一般人喜歡跟身高比 ... 但是實際上是要跟體重肌肉程度及目的來考量!
我那付 Dynastar Speed Course Ti 是 racing skis 才 165 cm 而已!
這付 Samba 因為只有稍許 roker 所以我沒選 173 的
你另外看的 拉稀尿 的那付 rocker 部分很大所以要選長一點 |
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s*********e 发帖数: 197 | 14 我最近想买自己的ski,求版上朋友能给点意见。我希望能以适用,经济实惠为原则,
也就是性价比要高。目前水平是初学,滑过10次左右,可以在蓝道上做一些平行转弯。
身高176cm(5'9''),体重180lbs。刚刚看到ebay上有2012 Dynastar Omedrive 8 Fluid
Men's 165cm Ski with NX 10 Fluid Bindings只要$199刀还包shipping,觉得价格很
好。但是不知道这个ski是不是适合初学者?能否在未来一段时间内支持我继续提高技
术?先谢谢大家。ebay链接附上:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2012-Dynastar-Omedrive-8-Fluid-Mens-165c |
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b******r 发帖数: 1137 | 16 I have K2 5500 (188) + Salomon S912, and Dynastar SC9 (178) + Look P12. 5500
is beginner-intermediate level ski. I do feel its vibration is quite big on
high speed and jump landing. SC9 is more stiff, but fits my level very well.
it's perfect for New England's icy terrain:) skiing on more advanced skis do
make you feel tired more easily, both because of the stiffness and weight.
it's a trade-off for control. my opinion is that skis don't differ too much,
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 17 I have a pair of carving skis (dynastar contact 10) and a pair of twin tip
park skis (nordica super charge ignition). I end up skiing on the twip tip
most of the time although I don't do any park stuff. The park skis perform
reasonably well on crud and powder.
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 19 Sorry, I gotta run for now. Looking at the URL, it looks like one is
dynastar contact 8, which is great for racing on groomers, but not too good
for all mountain. don't know about fischer white heat. buying a system is
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R******e 发帖数: 2254 | 20 K2 apache stryker is good all mountain ski, size 118/74/103 makes it stable
on both groom and ungroomed terrain.
Dynastar contact 8 is more like a curving ski, good for groomed runs, but
will be painful on crud.
No idea about fischer white heat. Fischer is a good brand for Randonee skis,
not sure about their downhill products
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h****w 发帖数: 236 | 21 他家的outlet有很多好deal,特别是往年的老model(有brand new的,也有used的,要
注意区分)。我07年6月买的Dynastar Skicross Carve Skis + Look Nova 10
Bindings 2005 158 cm,150刀,外加Dolomite Rage X8 Form Fit Ski Boot 2005 Red
/Steel -- 26 (Mondo),100刀。都是老model,但brand new。
网上买最好明确自己需要什么,在local店先看好,并多请教本版的大佬们。我当初买
的时候比较草率,不过用的感觉还不错。evogear在华盛顿州有local店。
www.evogear.com
20% code: 3DAY (valid for outlet store ONLY!) |
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 22 俺的twin tip carving性能极烂。不过可能是我的expectation太高。偶有一副
dynastar contact 10 |
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 23 I used to ski with a pair of dynastar contact 10 (68mm waist) all the time.
I did have very difficult time in powders, hehe. |
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k***z 发帖数: 3522 | 24 所以他后来用我ld的dynastar big trouble感觉超爽啊,呵呵 |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 25 Isn't Dynastar for girls??!! ;)
j/k |
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 26 刚在Sierraskis.com买了一副,70% 奥夫之后200块(没binding)。想征求一下意见看是
否值得留下。 |
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h***i 发帖数: 836 | 27 这么便宜,我正好买板也看过这个。好像评价还不错中级板。
说binding后面提高了点,这样可以纠正女的往后坐的坏习惯。呵呵。
不知道是不是真有用。。
看是 |
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 28 就是说板子在binding后半部分的位置有个隆起? |
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h***i 发帖数: 836 | 29 我仔细看了一下,binding后面部分是高一些,说是8mm |
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h***i 发帖数: 836 | 30 挺漂亮的。和我在店里看得一样。。
我还以为只有女板这样。
还真便宜,我在这里shop看到都要大概400刀加binding。。。 :-( |
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 31 网上肯定便宜而且free shipping. 准备到附近店里看看能否把旧ski上的Marker bindi
ng拆下来用在新的上。 |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 32 miss Alta, thumbs and toes all up on the ben!!
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also, nice girly fat Dynastar skis :D
(kidding, you know i'm jealous...) |
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k**t 发帖数: 1968 | 33 看几个重点牌子吧.
volkl, dynastar, salomon, atomic, k2.
另外,看你今年想练什么.也可以买special skis, like moguls ski, powder ski, etc. |
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D**********k 发帖数: 149 | 35 不太同意,文章说的是今年的板,我看的也是2010的型号。举个例子来说:Dynastar的
Contact系列,标准的resort on piste系列,其中最高的4x4也不过75的腰,而最窄的
一款腰只有66mm,其它的几个牌子的情况也类似,所以说这篇文章的准确性嘛。。。。
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m***n 发帖数: 690 | 37 Volkl, Atomic, Fisher, Rossignol, Salomon, Blizzard, Head, Nordica, Elan,
Dynastar,在ebay上面找前2年的款,100多块的,就行了,2手的大部分都是带binding
的,去年ebay上给LD买的Volkl的5颗星,70块钱,滑了一年,很不错,那个可是前几年
比较高级的板子
鞋子不能在ebay买,一定要自己试试,自己试好了,去滑的时候都不一定舒服
鞋子一次买好,以后不需要换了,花个300多差不多能搞到中级以上的
另外一个渠道是本地店或者雪场店里边的demo板子,有时候有很好的deal,不过这个要
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r*****p 发帖数: 531 | 38 head im82从spec上来看感觉是70%trail+30%backcountry多一点?Dynastar Trouble
Maker会不会适合park多一点? |
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 39 看我们顶上讨论的 dynastar big trouble
现在sac卖的。。。
不过,腰有点宽,可能不适合东部 |
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 42 dynastar?
我怎么记得你问的是tryolia
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n*****a 发帖数: 1327 | 43 After my binding broken on the old 178cm B94 on 1/10, I did some major
upgrades on my gears in the recent 3 weeks and would like to share here in
case you are thinking about upgrading and need a reference:
1. Bought a pair of new 08/09 Dynastar mythic rider 184mm with PX12 fluid
binding on ebay $369. It is with 88mm waist and I plan to use it for
everyday skiing in tahoe area. It is narrower than the B94 but longer since
I do not see that much powder days in tahoe and want to go a little bit
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a*****y 发帖数: 367 | 44 我科普一下各个牌子吧:
按受欢迎度,销量综合来排名:
1. Atomic
雪板的老大,奥地利的牌子,没有争议,一直是竞技滑雪奖牌最多的一个品牌,曾经连
续12年排名第一,去年又是排名第一。每年产量超过1百万。
1.1 Salomon
法国的牌子,但被atomic收购了,原因是这牌子在美国太畅销了,基本每年在美国销量
最多,它家产的鞋子也是最舒服的品牌之一。
1.2 Dynamic
美国很少,同样是atomic下面的牌子。
1.3 Volant
奢侈品,雪板中的LV,Gucci,经济危机没人买,退出美国市场了。
2.Rossignol
雪板界老二,法国的牌子。美国非常畅销的牌子,主要是All Mountain的板子做得非常
好,是很多爱好者不二的选择。
2.1 Dynastar
Rossi下面的牌子,雪板也不错,但销量不是很大
2.2 Blizzard
Rossi下面的牌子,美国基本很少,主要在欧洲销售,雪板不错
2.3 Roxy
Rossi下面专门的女子品牌,板很花哨。各位男性滑雪者慎重,不然会被认为。。。。
3. Fischer
实力派的奥地利一线产商。这两年progressor系列 |
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y**a 发帖数: 2546 | 45 好贴!
我科普一下各个牌子吧:
按受欢迎度,销量综合来排名:
1. Atomic
雪板的老大,奥地利的牌子,没有争议,一直是竞技滑雪奖牌最多的一个品牌,曾经连
续12年排名第一,去年又是排名第一。每年产量超过1百万。
1.1 Salomon
法国的牌子,但被atomic收购了,原因是这牌子在美国太畅销了,基本每年在美国销量
最多,它家产的鞋子也是最舒服的品牌之一。
1.2 Dynamic
美国很少,同样是atomic下面的牌子。
1.3 Volant
奢侈品,雪板中的LV,Gucci,经济危机没人买,退出美国市场了。
2.Rossignol
雪板界老二,法国的牌子。美国非常畅销的牌子,主要是All Mountain的板子做得非常
好,是很多爱好者不二的选择。
2.1 Dynastar
Rossi下面的牌子,雪板也不错,但销量不是很大
2.2 Blizzard
Rossi下面的牌子,美国基本很少,主要在欧洲销售,雪板不错
2.3 Roxy
Rossi下面专门的女子品牌,板很花哨。各位男性滑雪者慎重,不然会被认为。。。。
3. Fischer
实力派的奥地利一线产商。这两年progres |
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N**D 发帖数: 10322 | 46 就是Rossignal Bandit/SC series, 和Dynastar Mythic/Sultan
这个靴子看来很是重要,应该是第一个买的
mammoth 出租的地方,有带靴子的,还有不带靴子的。看来,可以买一双很舒服的靴子
,然后租ski, 是不同的,然后再买ski
恩。。
My roommates and I bought quite a few(at least 4 pairs, with waist width
78mm, 83mm, 94mm, and 104mm) Rossignal Bandit series. Rossignal has a series
called bandit, starting from B1, B2, B3, B4 etc and rename to B78,B83,B94,
B104,etc. In my opinion, it is very good choice for 1st pair of skis. it is
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e*******e 发帖数: 1837 | 47 我现在的ski.
Twin-tip,92mm waist,designed to be one ski quiver (read: good for everything but not great for anything).
西部 all mountain, off-piste, park可以考虑. |
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q*c 发帖数: 17993 | 48 多少%off?
everything but not great for anything). |
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ad 发帖数: 110 | 49 经常盯tramdock.com,还是颇有一些250以下的知名ski的:
Dynastar Big Trouble $250, Trouble Maker $225
Rossignol S4 $250, S3 $190
Head Mojo One $220
Nordica Ignition $200
Salomon Threat $160
仅仅提供数据,质量好坏以及适用人群/水平/玩法/地区还请版上大牛们点评。。。 |
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e*******e 发帖数: 1837 | 50 Nice! Good to see those fat skis again.
My ski is the Dynastar Big Trouble. As you can see from the video, I
struggled a bit with its 92mm underfoot in knee-deep powder, although that
probably has more to do with my skill than the skis. |
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