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l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄国赚大了!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/opinion/hayden-snowden-impact
Ex-CIA chief: What Edward Snowden did
By Michael Hayden, CNN Terrorism Analyst
updated 11:31 AM EDT, Fri July 19, 2013
Some did it for the money, some did it for idealism, others didn't do it at
all. The U.S. has seen a number of high profile leak scandals including the
Pentagon Papers during the administration of President Richard Nixon. Click
through to see more high-profile intelligence leaking cases. Some did it for
the money, some ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julian-assange/wikileaks-bradley-
Two Years of Cablegate as Bradley Manning Testifies for the First Time
Julian Assange.
Editor-in-Chief and Founder, WikiLeaks
Thursday, November 29th, Bradley Manning testified for the first time since
his arrest two and a half years ago in Baghdad. Today also marks the two-
year anniversary of the first front pages around the world from Cabl... 阅读全帖
M*V
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In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julian-assange/wikileaks-bradley-
Two Years of Cablegate as Bradley Manning Testifies for the First Time
Julian Assange.
Editor-in-Chief and Founder, WikiLeaks
Thursday, November 29th, Bradley Manning testified for the first time since
his arrest two and a half years ago in Baghdad. Today also marks the two-
year anniversary of the first front pages around the world from Cabl... 阅读全帖
m**********e
发帖数: 12525
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你们这些独裁国家来的屁民,太高估美国政府掌控局势的能力了,奥黑马上
就要官司缠身了,美国人民不是祖国人民,绝对不会答应把snowdon抓起来的.
不信看看当年越南战争时期的五角大楼机密文件案,最后不也是以美国政府
自取其辱告终吗?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers
所以,sonowdon现在学的就是当年的Daniel Ellsberg,当然,snowdon没Ellsberg的
胆识,自己先尿遁到香港,相比之下,妈的当年Ellsberg根本就不怕,等着条子上门来
抓!
l**o
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来自主题: Chinese版 - see what amercian thinks and more!
Some interesting links:
http://www.cspan.org/ : looking for Teach-In & Speak Out Against Iraq War
http://www.ellsberg.net/
http://www.ellsberg.net/links.htm
http://www.mfso.org/
I believe--United, we can make difference!
Please take sometimes to read the following and I hope you think about it:

It was so touching for me to watch a more than five hours program from CSPAN
channel: "Teach-In & Speak Out Against Iraq War" which took place Sat
afternoon at American Univers
l**o
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来自主题: PKU版 - see what amercian thinks and more!
Some interesting links:
http://www.cspan.org/ : looking for Teach-In & Speak Out Against Iraq War
http://www.ellsberg.net/
http://www.ellsberg.net/links.htm
http://www.mfso.org/
I believe--United, we can make difference!
Please take sometimes to read the following and I hope you think about it:

It was so touching for me to watch a more than five hours program from CSPAN
channel: "Teach-In & Speak Out Against Iraq War" which took place Sat
afternoon at American Univers
M******8
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http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=36324
夏语冰
美国前中情局和国安局网络情报人员斯诺登「叛逃」香港,爆出美国情报组织大量侦监
民众电话及网络的活动,震惊全球。「九一一」事件后,美国政府大肆扩展情报搜集,
并向民间外包业务。目前美国有约两千家这类情报科技公司,雇用约百万人。这种产业
模式可追溯至二战后美国总统艾森豪威尔所痛陈的「军产复合体」弊端,如今更变种为
力道更强的「间谍产业复合体」,成为美国最新的魔咒。
一九八三年出生于美国北卡罗莱那州伊丽莎白市的爱德华.约瑟夫.斯诺登(Edward
Joseph Snowden)是个温文儒雅的白人青年,在他三十岁生日(六月二十一日)前夕,
成为美国和世界间谍史上最有名的「吹哨人」(Whistleblower,即告发人或告密者)
。这位高中退学的计算机奇才曾任职于美国中央情报局(CIA)和国家安全局(NSA),
他对美国政府变成一个无孔不入、无物不窥的监视国家(surveillance state)极度反
感,乃透过英国《卫报》(The Guardian)和《华... 阅读全帖
T*********r
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来自主题: Military版 - 这段采访看得我很感动。
re
这位更是先锋
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y2wmpxM2VQ
Daniel Ellsberg
t***h
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* Pentagon papers, 1971: Daniel Ellsberg leaks study showing the
government had knowledge it was unlikely to win Vietnam war
* Watergate, 1972: Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein reveal extent of
cover-up over burglary at Democrat National Committee HQ
* Iran-Contra affair, 1986: Iranian cleric reveals illegal US arms sales
to Iran, the proceeds of which are later used to fund Nicaraguan Contras
* Valerie Plame, 2003: Ms Plame is revealed to be an undercover CIA
agent, ending her co... 阅读全帖
t***h
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来自主题: Military版 - Snowden 在twitter上回答网友问题
12.43pm ET
Final question from Glenn Greenwald:
Anything else you'd like to add?
Answer:
Thanks to everyone for their support, and remember that just because you
are not the target of a surveillance program does not make it okay. The US
Person / foreigner distinction is not a reasonable substitute for
individualized suspicion, and is only applied to improve support for the
program. This is the precise reason that NSA provides Congress with a
special immunity to its surveillance.
12.41pm ET
Q... 阅读全帖
m**********e
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来自主题: Military版 - 斯诺登这么做,有什么好处?
你看看snowden的前辈,Daniel ELlsberg, 几十年后,是不是真被人忘了?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg
t**********8
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宋鲁郑:斯诺登全面瓦解西方价值观
虽然2013年刚刚过半,但世人皆知今年的年度人物和最重大事件已经产生。这就是CIA
前情报人员斯诺登披露的美国政府在本土和海外进行的、针对平民、国际机构、盟国和
潜在对手的大规模监听,几乎除了非洲以外的全球各主要国家都“被迫”卷入。一个小
人物,就这样撬动了地球。
随着被视为美国后院的拉美国家委内瑞拉、尼加拉瓜、玻利危亚三国公开表示接受斯诺
登的政治和人道避难申请,这场世纪风暴也阶段性地告以段落。这不由得使人想起美国
小说家豪威尔斯一句流传甚广、精巧的诗歌名句:美国人都喜欢悲剧,只要能为其加上
一个大团圆的结局。
虽然斯诺登如何突破全球第一强国美国的重重阻挠、成功跨过重洋,进入安全之地,仍
将有一场吸引眼球的大戏或者喜剧甚至闹剧上演,但显然此刻盘点斯诺登的“贡献”方
得其时。
人类进入二十一世纪之后,崛起了五百年的西方似乎来到了命运的拐点。先是两场缺乏
合法性(没有经过联合国的授权、没有明确的证据就针对主权国家发动全面战争)的反
恐战争(令人讽刺的是,美国现在不得不和塔利班坐下来谈判了)、2008年百年一遇的
经济危机、2010年轰动全球的的维基解密、... 阅读全帖
b********n
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http://benswann.com/breaking-utah-legislators-move-to-kill-nsa-
SALT LAKE CITY, February 12, 2014–Can Utah shut down the new NSA data
center by turning off the water? A new bill introduced by state Rep. Marc
Roberts seeks to do just that. The legislation drafted by a transpartisan
coalition organized by the Tenth Amendment Center (TAC) and the Bill of
Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) called OffNow Coalition. The Utah Fourth
Amendment Protection Act would expressly prohibit state material support... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - Snowden 后悔没早点出山
Edward Snowden's big regret
http://grahamcluley.com/2015/02/edward-snowden-regret-reddit/
Mr. Snowden, if you had a chance to do things over again, would you do
anything differently? If so, what?
I would have come forward sooner. I talked to Daniel Ellsberg about this at
length, who has explained why more eloquently than I can.
Had I come forward a little sooner, these programs would have been a little
less entrenched, and those abusing them would have felt a little less
familiar with and accust... 阅读全帖
b**********s
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万维专稿:美42年前泄密案主角同情斯诺登
万维读者网记者江夏编译报道:四十二年前因揭发五角大楼越战机密文件而出名的美国
前国防部情报官员艾斯伯格(Daniel Ellsberg),7月7日在《华盛顿邮报》发表文章
说,许多人拿斯诺登和我作比较,如斯诺登是离开美国,寻求政治庇护;我当年是则是
留在美国,面对审判等。但这样比较是不恰当的,我并不赞同。因为当年我留下的,是
很久以前的美国,和今天的美国不一样。
1971年6月15日,《纽约时报》被禁止继续刊登我提供的五角大楼越战文件后,我向《
华盛顿邮报》提供了文件的第二份副本,那时我和妻子帕翠西娅(Patricia)转入地下
,隐藏了13天。当时我的目的,就像斯诺登飞到香港那样,是为了在揭露消息时,避免
受到监视。到最后3天,由于当局对我发出了逮捕令,我和斯诺登一样,成了“在逃犯
”。
随后我向当局自首,在波士顿被逮捕。但在前一晚,我已经发出了最后一份五角大楼文
件的副本。被捕当天我获得保释。后来当局对我的控罪从最初的3项增加到12项,我的
保释金也增加到5万美元。如果罪名成立,总刑期可能达到115年。然而在两年的诉讼期
间,我可以自由对传... 阅读全帖

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BEVERLY GAGE
2017年5月12日
唐纳德·特朗普又做了一件之前的总统都不敢做的事。这一次,他将一名对他的竞选活
动进行了积极而持续的调查的联邦调查局(FBI)局长解职。这个决定反映出特朗普总统
专横的本能,展现出他对联邦调查人员独立性以及对真相基本追求的蔑视。
特朗普频频呼吁以使用私人电子邮件服务器起诉希拉里·克林顿(Hillary Clinton);
他为FBI局长詹姆斯·科米(James Comey)“放过”克林顿感到愤怒;而且有报道称,他
指示司法部长杰夫·塞申斯(Jeff Sessions)找理由解雇科米。基于以上考虑,很难相
信总统的说法,他说做出这个决定是因为,科米在竞选期间对待克林顿的方式过于苛刻。
但是,如果特朗普真的是希望制止或限制FBI对自己的竞选活动与俄罗斯的关系进行调
查,他可能会非常失望。历史表明,他的决定很可能会适得其反,产生新的泄密和更多
质询,那将比他想像的更难控制。
特朗普总统可能认为这是向不愿与白宫保持同一阵线的泄密者和独立官员发出一个严厉
的警告。但事实上,他很可能会引发内部叛乱。
1972年的情况就是这样的。当时,理查德·尼克松总统... 阅读全帖
a*********a
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来自主题: USANews版 - 白色恐怖终于过去了
the Obama administration has prosecuted more leakers under the 1917
Espionage Act than all former presidents combined.
The Obama administration has secured 526 months of prison time for national
security leakers, versus only 24 months total jail time for everyone else
since the American Revolution.
under Obama,
journalist Barrett Brown was sentenced to 63 months
whistleblower Jeffrey Sterling was sentenced to 42 months
wikileaker Jeremy Hammond was sentenced to 120 months
obama justice dept fals... 阅读全帖
t**********k
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 读史有感(越战泄密)(上)
读史有感(越战泄密)(上)
现在史諾登正闹得沸沸扬扬,这就不得不让人想起越战泄密的主角艾斯伯格(Daniel
Ellsberg),没有他,恐怕是不会有后来的曼宁和史諾登的。
艾斯伯格出生于一个犹太的中产阶级家庭,十五岁时母亲死于车祸,他当时也在车上,
昏迷了几天后才苏醒,这件事影响了他的一生。
他是个人才,因为学业和才华,获得了奖学金进入哈佛大学,主修经济,学士毕业后又
得到奖学金到剑桥大学进修,一年后回到哈佛继续学业,接下来中断学习,志愿参军,
作为军官的履历无懈可击。最后又回来拿到了博士,以后进入著名的兰德公司,1964年
,被美国国防部看中,出任负责国际安全事务的助理国防部长约翰•麦克诺顿的
特别助理。他在学术上提出了以自己命名的悖论(艾尔斯伯格悖论),是决策论中的一
个重要理论,总之和史諾登有所不同,是个牛人。
到那时为止,他是出类拔萃的美国精英,而且是极右的鹰派精英。但是,他是一个学者
精英而非政治精英,这个区别在以后可以明显地看到。
当时美国正在越南打仗,有两件事彻底改变了改变了他。第一件事是国防部想弄清楚自
己是怎么卷入... 阅读全帖
p***r
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 读史有感(越战泄密)(上)
布什也不是好东西,爱国者法案就是他任上通过的。obama是继续发展了这种恶劣趋
势。
前一阵Ellsberg还出来说过,说美国现在已经不是他那时候了,Snowden这么来也是迫
不得已。
b*s
发帖数: 82482
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 读史有感(越战泄密)(上)
obama这厮,竞选的时候用反布什作为platform,其实到了任上,比布什还变本加厉。
搞出一个不伦不类的obamacare,现在都不敢叫这个名字了。实质上也还是压榨中产阶
级的一种手段

布什也不是好东西,爱国者法案就是他任上通过的。obama是继续发展了这种恶劣趋
势。
前一阵Ellsberg还出来说过,说美国现在已经不是他那时候了,Snowden这么来也是迫
不得已。
z*******n
发帖数: 1034
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Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid Of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook And
Google
Posted yesterday by Anthony
According to Edward Snowden, people who care about their privacy should stay
away from popular consumer Internet services like Dropbox, Facebook, and
Google.
Snowden conducted a remote interview today as part of the New Yorker
Festival, where he was asked a couple of variants on the question of what we
can do to protect our privacy.
His first answer called for a reform of government policie... 阅读全帖
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