j****e
发帖数: 185 | 1 好像goth没什么贵族气息吧
其实goth就是从post-punk演化出来的舞曲，而且在Ian Curtis死后，goth基本上就已经
消亡了，剩下的人有的组New Order开创80年代流行音乐新格局，有的就改唱Darkwave了
,比如The Cure.感觉一直坚持goth风格不变的只有什么Siouxsie&Banshees了。(The Cure
早期的作品舞曲味道非常浓)
现在所说的gothic rock感觉象是从metal/dark metal演化而来的,比如Current 93等等。
和以前的goth应该没什么关系。其他的darkwave, ethereal应该也算是新东西吧，和以前
的goth没什么关系。
hehe,这个Industrial Dance就比较有意思了，搞不懂从哪里冒出来的...
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发
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z*****a
发帖数: 7716 | 2 AMG描述她的Tones： Ethereal, Reflective, Intense, Complex, Passionate,
Bittersweet, Wintry, Poignant, Provocative, Sensual, Quirky, Intimate,
Cerebral, Sophisticated, Nocturnal, Eerie, Earnest, Whimsical, Soothing,
Cathartic
她歌词给我一个感觉：Confessional，呵呵 |
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j****e
发帖数: 185 | 3 me
I used to have an internet radio playing gothic, and darkwave.
planning to restore it later this year.
It will be mainly gothic, darkwave, shoegazing, neo-classic,
love rock, electric goth, trip hop, ethereal...
And I will like to do some EBM and industrial dance shows too.
xixi...a little early AD...
my old playlist:
(6.24.2002)
Deep Red - DarkwaterS
Sauce of the Future - Paper Wrapper
DRAW.BACK - In Hiding (Version 2)
The Strand - Bookmark On The Shelf
Sumerland - Glorious
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w*******k
发帖数: 15 | 4 我去13也算有半年多了吧，以前主要是上传下载，现在主要是灌水 :)
至于树的积分，确实是个问题。我好歹有很多分，没去也就没了。不过也没什么，现在不
太喜欢那里的东西。那里确实有点小资，听indie/ethereal/dreampop/alternative的比
较多。不知道现在还是不是那样。我现在主要听world/darkwave/dark
ambient/industrial之类的。
起
每
置
子
。
。
。
no-13里面高手如云，很多都是年年听几百甚至上千张碟的。里面我最喜欢world/newage
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 5 新专辑叫White Chalk，9月24号出版。
Tracklisting:
1. The Devil
2. Dear Darkness
3. Grow Grow Grow
4. When Under Ether
5. White Chalk
6. Broken Harp
7. Silence
8. To Talk To You
9. The Piano
10. Before Departure
11. The Mountain |
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发帖数: 366 | 6 been loving them for a while.
am glad to see someone fond of ethereal sounds too! |
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l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 7 www.jonsavage.com/film
Bernard Sumner
[interview, April 1994]
Bernard onstage
Bernard Albrecht Sumner
I first met Ian at a gig at the Electric Circus. It might have been the
Anarchy tour, it might have been The Clash, or one of them punk groups. Ian
was with another lad called Ian, and they both had donkey jackets, and Ian
had “HATE” written on the back of his donkey jacket. I remember liking him
. He seemed pretty nice, but we didn’t talk to him that much. I just
remembered him. Later on, about... 阅读全帖 |
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l*y
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Peter Hook Reflects On Joy Division & New Order
Posted by Paul Gleason on Mar 04, 2013 3 Comments
As bassist for Joy Division and New Order perhaps the 2 most important ban
ds of the post-punk movement in England Peter Hook is responsible for crea
ting some of the most memorable music of the past 35 years.
Joy Division抯 albums Unknown Pleasures and Closer are... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****y
发帖数: 225 | 9 昨天用ease-off 清洗抽油烟机filter. 这个东西很强大，喷到油垢上面，滋滋啦啦
反应一会儿，再用水一冲，就干净了。冲完以后，也没戴手套，把下面垫的破报纸
拿起来，攥了攥，扔到垃圾桶。过了一会儿，觉得右边耳朵里面有一点疼，一阵一
阵的，同时发现右手肿了，明显比左手大一圈。今天早上起来好了一点，耳朵不怎
么疼了，可是右手还是肿着。
在网上查了一下，ease-off 有这些成分，
Butane (1-5)
Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether (5)
Monoethanolamine (MEA) (0-5)
Sodium hydroxide (0-5)
请各路科学家帮忙看一下，我是不是中毒了？有什么解药？多谢了。 |
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l*****n
发帖数: 328 | 10 http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/12/30/craigslist-letter-to-dead-g
It has been a rough year darling. The ethereal power of Craig's List will
get this message to you I am sure, like in some sort of cheesy 80s movie.
Well back to the last year, you of course died at the beginning of it which
put things to a sour start. I spent last night with your mum and dad, we
went to that Italian place in Wicker Park, who on the surface seem to be
coping. I had everyone get together for my 25th which went well, y... 阅读全帖 |
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d*********g
发帖数: 2906 | 11 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/world/asia/zhu-ling-case-re-e
1990s Poisoning Case Re-emerges, Unleashing Fresh Chinese Fury
By ANDREW JACOBS
Published: May 10, 2013
BEIJING — The mysterious illness began with crippling stomach pain,
followed by blurry vision and sudden hair loss. By the time Zhu Ling, a
talented musician and chemistry student at one of China’s top universities,
emerged from a coma weeks later, she was partially paralyzed and nearly
blind, her faculties reduced to those of a c... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9770 | 12 来源：至善堂中医
「克里安照相术」与「MRI成像技术」对「经络穴位」的证实
早些年，针灸、拔罐等中医传统治疗方法并不受世界认可，即便临床治疗已证明中医传
统疗法确有奇效，但由于西方医学通过解剖手段无法证实中医中「人体经络」、「穴位
」、以及「精、气、神」等物质的存在，所以一并的否认了传承了五千年的中医文化，
而随着人类科技发展，医疗仪器也愈加精良，对人体的检测也是逐步的透彻可视化，中
医理论中的「经络」、「穴位」、「奇经八脉」等事物也逐渐在精密的科技仪器下现出
原型了。本文便同过标题所述的两种方法来详细论述「经络」的客观存在性—克里安摄
影术和核磁共振功能成像技术。
克里安照相术
克里安照相技术Kirlian Photography
这是由前苏联人S. D.和V. Kirlian（克里安）所共同发明的一种特殊照相机，利用高
伏特电压的瞬间激发，将人或是物件的影像摄入底片中，而从中就可以看出该人或物的
」气场」、」能量场」。现在咸信，克里安相机捕捉到的气场，只是人、物的最基本能
量场，称以太体（Etheric）；而人体尚有不同层次的（Layers）、更高的能量体（
Energy Bodi... 阅读全帖 |
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p**e
发帖数: 33 | 13 seems the correct rythm is ABBA, ABBA, CDD, CDD
I have cherished you, my love,
Deeply, deeply upon the shrine tight,
So that in the midst of long night,
I will feel the warmth from above.
And let it dart like a dove,
Like a nightingale in accompany with a kite,
To wherever is within the sight,
And I see you, I will not rove.
I yearned for you from far away,
Get closer to you smiling I will,
Like a sun shining proudly in the ethereal.
The flowers flourish on a May day,
Out of the lustre of wine I |
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l*****v
发帖数: 26 | 14 Bits Bytes Chips Clocks
Bits in bytes on chips in box.
Bytes with bits and chips with clocks.
Chips in box on ether-docks.
Chips with bits come. Chips with bytes come.
Chips with bits and bytes and clocks come.
Look, sir. Look, sir. read the book, sir.
Let's do tricks with bits and bytes, sir.
Let's do tricks with chips and clocks, sir.
First, I'll make a quick trick bit stack.
Then I'll make a quick trick byte stack.
You can make a quick trick chip stack.
You can make a quick trick clock stack. |
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q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 15 Material Safety Data Sheet
Sulfuric Acid
ACC# 22350
Section 1 - Chemical Product and Company Identification
MSDS Name: Sulfuric Acid
Catalog Numbers: S71211SC, S71826, S79200, S80213, S80213-1, A298 212,
A298212, A300 212, A300 225LB, A300 500, A300 612GAL, A300 700LB, A300212,
A300225LB, A300500, A300612GAL, A300700LB, A300C 212, A300C212, A300C212001,
A300C212002, A300C212003, A300C212004, A300C212005, A300C212006,
A300C212007, A300C212008, A300C212009, A300C212010, A300C212LC, A300FP 500,
A30... 阅读全帖 |
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q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 16 Material Safety Data Sheet
Sulfuric Acid
ACC# 22350
Section 1 - Chemical Product and Company Identification
MSDS Name: Sulfuric Acid
Catalog Numbers: S71211SC, S71826, S79200, S80213, S80213-1, A298 212,
A298212, A300 212, A300 225LB, A300 500, A300 612GAL, A300 700LB, A300212,
A300225LB, A300500, A300612GAL, A300700LB, A300C 212, A300C212, A300C212001,
A300C212002, A300C212003, A300C212004, A300C212005, A300C212006,
A300C212007, A300C212008, A300C212009, A300C212010, A300C212LC, A300FP 500,
A30... 阅读全帖 |
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R******d
发帖数: 5739 | 17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsaicin
quote:
Solubility in water 0.0013 g/100 mL
soluble in alcohol, ether, benzene
slightly soluble in CS2, HCl, petroleum
水溶性和油溶性都不是特别好， 可能牛奶更有效。 牛奶有乳溶剂 |
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发帖数: 21641 | 19 荠菜根白色。茎直立，单一或基部分枝。基生叶丛生，埃地，莲座状、叶羽状分裂，不
整齐，顶片特大，叶片有毛，叶耙有翼。茎生叶狭披针形或披针形，基部箭形，抱茎，
边缘有缺刻或锯齿。全株含草酸（oxalic acid），酒石酸（tartaric acid），苹果酸
（malic acid），丙酮酸（pyruvic acid），对氨基苯磺酸（sulfanilic acid），精
氨酸（arginine），天冬氨酸（aspartic acid），脯氨酸（proline），蛋氨酸（
methionine），亮氨酸（leucine），谷氨酸（glutamic acid），甘氨酸（glycine）
，丙氨酸（alanine）），胱氨酸（cystine），半脱氨酸（cysteine），蔗糖（
sucrose），山梨糖（sorbose），乳糖（lactose），葡萄糖胺（glucosamine），山梨
糖醇（sorbitol），甘露醇（man－nitol），侧金盏花醇（adonitol）以及钾、钙、钠
、铁、氯、磷、锰。还含二氢非瑟素（dihydrofisetin），山奈酚-4’-甲醚（
kaempfero... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****n
发帖数: 328 | 20 http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/12/30/craigslist-letter-to-dead-g
It has been a rough year darling. The ethereal power of Craig's List will
get this message to you I am sure, like in some sort of cheesy 80s movie.
Well back to the last year, you of course died at the beginning of it which
put things to a sour start. I spent last night with your mum and dad, we
went to that Italian place in Wicker Park, who on the surface seem to be
coping. I had everyone get together for my 25th which went well, y... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 21
不客气。
耶稣复活是有身体的，圣经和摩门经都有记载。但是他的身体显然跟以前的不一样的，是圣化以后的身体。被上帝拣选的圣民将来也要那个样子的。
嗯，是比哥伦布早。李海他们是公元前大概590年过去的。美洲当时已经有人居住了，
是从巴比伦语言混乱时期过去的，摩门经也包含了这些人的记载，他们是雅列人，（还
有其他人）以贴书记载了最早雅列人的历史：
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/ether/contents |
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S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 23 Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism...
Huston Smith handles each of these religions with such care and
understanding one truly believes they are reading the words of a believer of
each and not an outside observer. The title of the book says what's his
approach to religion: as wisdom traditions that are worth understanding,
study, and appreciation.
The World's Religions, by Huston Smith, has been a standard introduction to
its eponymous subject since its first p... 阅读全帖 |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: sparty (天地有大美而不言), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 摩门教“神”概念的演变：从三位一体到“神组”
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 11 14:17:43 2012, 美东)
三位一体："Within the one eternal being of God there exists three eternally
existing persons." 既然是三个persons，当然可以有区别，也不存在自己跟自己祷告
等问题。而他们是同一个being的意思，就是说他们的本质、目的和心意是一样的。LDS
先把他们拆分成三个beings、然后又把他们合成一个“神组“，也是可以解释过去。可
是，如果一定要说LDS的解读更对，我认为没有意义的。
其实，LDS一开始其实信的是三位一体，后来众多先知改来改去很多次，才改成现在这
样的“神组“。
《摩门经》修改过很多次，比如1830年和1924年的两个版本：
"And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 25 Andrew Roberts, O Captain, Our Captain; George Washington was a genius and a
titan, but it was politics, not war, at which he excelled. Wall Street
Journal, Oct. 2, 2010.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703882404575520061512222160.html
Note:
(1) feline (adj):
"2: resembling a cat: as
a : sleekly graceful
b : SLY, TREACHEROUOS
c : STEALTHY
All definitions are from www.m-w.com, except where noted.
(2) It is unclear (to me) what the first sentence means. But see
Otto von Bismarck
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g******r
发帖数: 114 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 EnglishChat 讨论区 】
【 原文由 greenfir 所发表 】
I have cherished you, my love,
Deeply, deeply upon the shrine tight,
So that in the midst of long night,
I will feel the warmth from above.
And let it dart like a dove,
Like a nightingale in accompany with a kite,
To wherever is within the sight,
And I see you, I will not rove.
I yearned for you from far away,
Get closer to you smiling I will,
Like a sun shining proudly in the ethereal.
The flowers flourish on a May day,
Out of the lustre of wine |
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h*****n
发帖数: 93 | 28 That we've broken their statues,
that we've driven them out of their temples,
doesn't mean at all that the gods are dead.
O land of Ionia, they're still in love with you,
their souls still keep your memory.
When an August dawn wakes over you,
your atmosphere is potent with their life,
and sometimes a young ethereal figure, indistinct, in rapid flight,
wings across your hills.
"Ionic" C.P. Cavafy, 1911 |
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l***y
发帖数: 791 | 29 Eyes that are sleeping in the day
catch the thing, unrecognized,
roaming at pre-dawn, waking up
The shape of your body, now nebulous
ethereal and glowing steady,
like white, old, invisible star lights
that even forgotten, are still blended into
the day -
While in this dawn under sky pearl grey,
The sorrow forms my link,
The same yearning pours
phantoms to the momory of streets
and the images of men, women, kids,
bare shoulders, brown skins,
dark eyed faces to those
i cannot put names
Sleep is lo |
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h*******2
发帖数: 734 | 30 Arthur Rimbaud,1854-1891.法国诗人,象征派先驱之一. 出生于法国夏尔维尔市.15岁
时,写拉丁文诗作,获得科学院一等奖.他提出了'通灵人'和'语言炼金术'的诗歌观点,其
创作更接近现代派.
<醉船>是其代表作,诗人把醉船写成有思维的人,通过醉船来自我表白,醉船是诗人心态
的物化.诗中奇特的语言组合是'语言炼金术'的运用.
Drunken Boat
As I was floating down unconcerned Rivers
I no longer felt myself steered by the haulers:
Gaudy Redskins had taken them for targets
Nailing them naked to coloured stakes.
I cared nothing for all my crews,
Carrying Flemish wheat or English cottons.
When, along with my haulers those uproars were done with
The Rive... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 734 | 31 *****************2005年, 入选诗************
1
发信人: songer (和弦), 信区: Poetry
标 题: 春天
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Mar 3 00:53:04 2001), 转信
春天在重现季节的容颜
我在流动中倾泻诗章
守着湖水和初翔的飞鸟
亮出被大雪洗净的心灵
整个春天我都在南方
像个梅花做成的孩子
潮湿地畅饮和感动
三月的桃枝映亮草和黑土
三月的酒香映亮幽青的岱山
春天在舒展中味息洪亮
我在沉稳中看到长青
看到南方的短诗和水一样的长巷
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发信人: lynny (green month 珍惜时光), 信区: Poetry
标 题: before dawn
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Sun Jun 19 05:06:14 2005), 转信
Eyes that are sleeping in the day
catch the thing, unrecognized,
roaming at pre-dawn, waking up
The sha... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 3006 | 32 The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo.
LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherized upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of rest... 阅读全帖 |
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C***r
发帖数: 759 | 33 CHAP. 11.--CONCERNING THE MANY GODS WHOM THE PAGAN DOCTORS
DEFEND AS BEING ONE AND THE
SAME JOVE.
Let them therefore assert as many things as ever they please
in physical reasonings and disputations. One while let
Jupiter be the soul of this
corporeal world, who fills and moves that whole mass,
constructed and compacted out of four, or as many elements
as they please; another
while, let him yield to his sister and brothers their parts
of it: now let him be the ether, that from above he may
embra |
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C***r
发帖数: 759 | 34 CHAP. 11.--OF PORPHYRY'S EPISTLE TO ANEBO, IN WHICH HE ASKS
FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES AMONG
DEMONS.
It was a better tone which Porphyry adopted in his letter to
Anebo the Egyptian, in which, assuming the character of an
inquirer consulting him, he unmasks and
explodes these sacrilegious arts. In that letter, indeed, he
repudiates all demons, whom he maintains to be so foolish as
to be attracted by the sacrificial vapors,
and therefore residing not in the ether, but in the air
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 35 Letter from Visitor on Calvinism, Evil and God's Holiness
Today I received an email to my to Monergism.com account from a visitor name
d Shawn. He asked some important questions on on Calvinism, Evil and God's H
oliness. I have reproduced his email in full with my response (with a couple
paragraphs on Job that quote liberally from John Piper)
Dear Mr. Hendryx,
I've been reading your website with interest and find it to be one of the ve
ry best Calvinistic resources I've seen on the net. I am not... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 36 CHAPTER XVI
Of Good Works
I. Good works are only such as God hath commanded in his holy Word,[306] and
not such as, without the warrant thereof, are devised by men, out of blind
zeal, or upon any pretense of good intention.[307]
II. These good works, done in obedience to God’s commandments, are the frui
ts and evidences of a true and lively faith:[308] and by them believers mani
fest their thankfulness,[309] strengthen their assurance,[310] edify their b
rethren,[311] adorn the profession of the... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 37 CHAPTER XXI
Of Religious Worship, and the Sabbath Day
I. The light of nature showeth that there is a God, who hath lordship and so
vereignty over all, is good, and doth good unto all, and is therefore to be
feared, loved, praised, called upon, trusted in, and served, with all the he
art, and with all the soul, and with all the might.[404] But the acceptable
way of worshiping the true God is instituted by himself, and so limited by h
is own revealed will, that he may not be worshiped according to... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 38 CHAPTER XXIX
Of the Lord’s Supper
I. Our Lord Jesus, in the night wherein he was betrayed, instituted the sacr
ament of his body and blood, called the Lord’s Supper, to be observed in hi
s church, unto the end of the world, for the perpetual remembrance of the sa
crifice of himself in his death; the sealing all benefits thereof unto true
believers, their spiritual nourishment and growth in him, their further enga
gement in and to all duties which they owe unto him; and, to be a bond and p
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 39 C. Full Exegetical Outline
Idea: All men, Jew and Gentile alike, are sinners and will not be declared r
ighteous, i.e., attain a right standing with God, through works of the law.
I. The Jews are no better off than the Gentiles because all alike under sin
(3:9).
II. There is no one who has any standing before God on their own, for there
is no one who is righteous, understands or seeks God, or shows kindness; tog
ether all have become worthless (3:10-12).
A. There is no one who is righteous (3:10... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 40 C. Full Exegetical Outline
Idea: All men, Jew and Gentile alike, are sinners and will not be declared r
ighteous, i.e., attain a right standing with God, through works of the law.
I. The Jews are no better off than the Gentiles because all alike under sin
(3:9).
II. There is no one who has any standing before God on their own, for there
is no one who is righteous, understands or seeks God, or shows kindness; tog
ether all have become worthless (3:10-12).
A. There is no one who is righteous (3:10... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 41 Is Atheism a Belief?
Author:
David Nicholls
It is reasonably common for religious persons and others to class Atheists
as those that have a "belief" system. It is taken for granted that the
Atheist's "belief" system is somewhat different from a "belief" in the
supernatural and sundry. Proponents of such loose use of the language would
wish to bring Atheists down to their level of accepting un-evidenced dogma.
They then "reason" that it is far better to have a "belief" in that which
has some perc... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 42 【 以下文字转载自 BibleStudy 俱乐部 】
发信人: Godwithus (神与我们同在), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: 海德堡要理问答主日01，6版本对照
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 27 16:22:41 2012, 美东)
http://www.godwithus.cn/wiki/HC01
海德堡要理问答主日01
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海德堡要理问答 海德堡要理问答主日1 HC01
目录
1 英文版
2 英文2011版
3 中文赵中辉版
4 中文钱耀诚版
5 中文陈达版（王志勇版）
6 圣经课程 -- 基督教教义
英文版
1. Lord's Day
Question 1. What is thy only comfort in life and death?
Answer.
That I with body and soul, both in life and death, (a)
am not my own, (b)
but belong unto my faithful Saviour Jes... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 43 首先给大家看个故事，然后再探讨经文：
林慈信牧师的《基督教教义发展史》中提到这个：
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01013i7l.html
基督论的发展史(1)：基督论的争辩
HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST (1):
The Christological Controversies
(Louis Berkhof, A History of Christian Doctrines, pp. 101ff.)
基督论与三位一体之问题的关联
Connection of Christological and Trinitarian Problems
基督论的难题可以从一般神学（译注：神论）方面，与拯救论方面来加以
研究。早期教父对基督论拯救方面的关系，虽未曾加以轻忽，但他们在重要的讨论上却
没有重视。在三位一体争论的气氛中，他们从一般神学（译注：神论）方面来研究基督
，乃天经地义的事，而三位一体争论所导致的决定则是，基督为神的儿子，事与父同质
的，因此祂是神。从此而发生的问题，就是基督... 阅读全帖 |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 44 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一神和众神 你原来是耶证的，所以你从一开始信的本来就不是三位一体："Within the one
eternal being of God there exists three eternally existing persons."
既然是三个persons，当然可以有区别，也不存在自己跟自己祷告等问题。而他们是同
一个being的意思，就是说他们的本质、目的和心意是一样的。我不觉得LDS先把他们拆
分成三个beings、然后又把他们合成一个“神组“有任何必要。
另外，LDS一开始其实信的是三位一体，后来众多先知改来改去很多次，才改成现在这
样的“神组“。
《摩门经》修改过很多次，你自己看1830年和1924年的两个版本：
"And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest, IS THE MOTHER OF
GOD, after the manner of the flesh."
1 Nephi 11:18, Book of Mormon, 1830 edition
"And he said unto me: Behold, the... 阅读全帖 |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 45 三位一体："Within the one eternal being of God there exists three eternally existing persons." 既然是三个persons，当然可以有区别，也不存在自己跟自己祷告等问题。而他们是同一个being的意思，就是说他们的本质、目的和心意是一样的。LDS先把他们拆分成三个beings、然后又把他们合成一个“神组“，也是可以解释过去。可是，如果一定要说LDS的解读更对，我认为没有意义的。
其实，LDS一开始其实信的是三位一体，后来众多先知改来改去很多次，才改成现在这样的“神组“。
《摩门经》修改过很多次，比如1830年和1924年的两个版本：
"And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest, IS THE MOTHER OF GOD, after the manner of the flesh."
1 Nephi 11:18, Book of Mormon, 1830 edition
"And he said unto me: Behold, the... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 46
吗？
我先生跟我一起加入了LDS。
首先，不知你从哪里听说---印第安人是约瑟的后代？不能这样说的，只能说部分是。
因为摩门经本身收录了另一本书，叫做以帖书的，介绍了在巴别塔的时期，就有部分人
移民来到美洲大陆了。摩门经称他们为雅列人。我们也并不否认在这期间，还有其他民
族移民到美洲的。
这个摩门经本身就否认了--印第安人“全部是”约瑟后裔的说法，只能说部分是。
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 47 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/inside-one-of-the
It’s a room few get to see, with high ceilings, comfortable furnishings and
an ethereal brightness that’s meant to evoke images of heaven.
Called the Celestial Room, it’s one of the most sacred rooms of a Mormon
temple.
The purpose of the room is “to remind us that we’re on our way back to God
. We’re on our way back to Heaven. That’s our objective,” Elder William R
. Walker, a senior leader within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latt... 阅读全帖 |
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