x*********n 发帖数: 28013 | 1 ##概况
Security section is basically firewall, IPS, IDS. After that forensic.
但是现代网络安全基本你中有我,我中有你。
FEYE是啥?基本2部分。IDS+forensic。IDS里面有2类,signature based。和pre-set
。前者做的事情是我根据已发现的攻击,建立一个database。如果有包进来我去search
这个database,然后判断yes or no。 FEYE做的是第二类。哥没有database,纯数学算
法,利用高计算来预判。什么意思呢,就是FEYE可以发现从来没有出现过的攻击,而传
统IDS只能发现已发现的。
##good side
1. 在这个industry,可以预判的技术是独一无二的,算法就是知识,也是专利。没有
一家公司可以做到这个技术,换句话说是垄断。
2. 售后。这哥们不但预判垄断。被攻击以后做研究调查叫forensic,这个被一家中国
公司垄断,然后FEYE买下了这家公司,所以,我预判垄断,出问题研究还是垄断。也就
是为啥当初FEYE会飙。
##bad side
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x*********n 发帖数: 28013 | 2 ##概况
Security section is basically firewall, IPS, IDS. After that forensic.
但是现代网络安全基本你中有我,我中有你。
FEYE是啥?基本2部分。IDS+forensic。IDS里面有2类,signature based。和pre-set
。前者做的事情是我根据已发现的攻击,建立一个database。如果有包进来我去search
这个database,然后判断yes or no。 FEYE做的是第二类。哥没有database,纯数学算
法,利用高计算来预判。什么意思呢,就是FEYE可以发现从来没有出现过的攻击,而传
统IDS只能发现已发现的。
##good side
1. 在这个industry,可以预判的技术是独一无二的,算法就是知识,也是专利。没有
一家公司可以做到这个技术,换句话说是垄断。
2. 售后。这哥们不但预判垄断。被攻击以后做研究调查叫forensic,这个被一家中国
公司垄断,然后FEYE买下了这家公司,所以,我预判垄断,出问题研究还是垄断。也就
是为啥当初FEYE会飙。
##bad side
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 3 Politico Corrects Misattributed Tina Fey Quote, Continues to “FAIL”
Posted on April 03 2012 - 2:10 AM - Posted by: Stacy Drake
Just yesterday, Politico was called out by Big Journalism Editor, Dana
Loesch, for forgetting their own rules in regard to the use of “violent”
metaphors. Today, Politico writers Dylan Byers and Mackenzie Weinger,
doubled down on the idiocy by mixing fiction with reality and taking petty,
partisan shots at Governor Palin.
First, they replay Matt Lauer’s ‘Team Couric‘ rem... 阅读全帖 |
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Y***C 发帖数: 249 | 4 FEYE的产品只是企业IT安全里面的一层layer,说服客户买需要花费很大的力气,而且市
场上有很多竞争对手。
但这类公司的估值有个隐含的收购底线在里面。你可以看一下公司财报,公司产品本身
margin很高有70%,但营销费用占收入的80%,管理费再来20%,加R&D,一个单一小产品
的公司,得做到多大才能把这些固定费用摊下去。但一个隐含的因素是,如果FEYE被一
家大公司买了,对大公司,边际营销费用和管理费用都大幅下降,FEYE的产品线立刻就
变成一个70毛利的现金牛。
所以,公司基本上是不可能挣钱的,但股价也不会真的跌太多。 |
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x*********n 发帖数: 28013 | 5 I will post a analysis tonight if my fashion shopping done quickly.
FEYE is IDS similar technology, they called zero day. Forensic is another
thing after FEYE acquired Chinese company
There are tons of terminology needs to be defined, IDS, IPS, UTM, signature,
how server works, and how layers do.
In a simple way, FEYE's market is high end market, they're dominated now,
but very vulnerable to other compitators |
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g*******h 发帖数: 1327 | 6 这公司三月份被Equifax雇用了来调查hack,到7月份披露调查结果的中间过程中,竟然
没能及时解决apach strut的漏洞问题。5月的那次hack,说明feye水平挺次的,等
equifax把中间细节披露出来,估计大家会更多的了解feye的水平有多差。
feye 作为cybersecurity公司,在equifax被刚报道出来的时候,有一波很positive的
sentiment,现在价格已经高于analyst target median。 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 7 Link:
http://www.buy.com/prod/bossypants/q/loc/106/217465780.html
Good reviews (4.5/5) at amazon, where it is priced $13.97 as of this writing
. Here is the most useful review, which gave it 5/5:
I enjoy a good memoir. It seems there's always something good to learn from
other people's life experiences. And while I'm not a huge Tina Fey fan, I
enjoyed her as Sarah Palin on SNL and occasionally watch 30 Rock. So after
reading a review of the book, and being without anything to read at the
moment,... 阅读全帖 |
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d******5 发帖数: 4273 | 8 ——来自我的博客: 股海逐鹿
http://mitbbs.org/pc/pccon_14439_313411.html
关于牛股FEYE,AMZN,LNKD多聊几句:
AMZN站稳200MA。电商老大,花街不会放弃。
LNKD底部已经筑好。个人觉得,现在bash它的报道不少,应该是介入的好时候。在180
左右买入,短期(2周内)还是安全的。
FEYE回调结束,60是支撑位。网络安全新贵,要粉墨登场了。
大盘好,这些股要涨,水涨船高!
大盘不好,这些股也要涨,超跌反弹!
设好止损,等拉升。
YMYD! |
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j**l 发帖数: 486 | 9 FEYE 2103 9-20 IPO, 六个月后 (Mar 21) STOCK OPTION 可以 EXERCISE。
TWTR 2013-11-07 IPO, MAY 8 以后也可以了。
TWTR 就不说了, 你懂得。 FEYE 也不是长期持有的料, 其产品靠吹牛为主, 这包
括那个前几年靠造谣说“中国网络攻击美国企业”出名的 MANDIANT, 靠这样无耻地
吹出来的“品牌”能长久吗?
最关键的是这两公司都是烧钱的主, 烧钱之快吓人, 没人印钱给他们, 他们咋活下
去? 短期炒作就看你 TA 功夫, 可你要长期持有的话, 也该看看他们的财务报表
。 |
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E**********r 发帖数: 327 | 10 Today,
FEYE +7.94%
NMBL +11.61%
SPLK +3.72%
QLGC +0.91%
RAX +4.76%, also after market ER beats well
0.115 vs. 0.18 and hasn't jumped the ship yet
FEYE & NMBL & SPLK & RAX are likely to continue go up tomorrow
not sure about QLGC |
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E**********r 发帖数: 327 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 kindred_spirits 俱乐部 】
发信人: EmilyForever (Emily), 信区: kindred_spirits
标 题: (ZT) FEYE, NMBL, RAX, SPLK, QLGC - Bounce?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 11 15:22:43 2014, 美东)
Oversold Tech Momentum High-Flyers May Be Ready to Bounce
By Lee Jackson May 9, 2014 8:35 am EDT
Last year and the early part of 2014 was all about the momentum trade. There
was so much fast money chasing hot tech IPOs and tech darlings that the
market kept feeding on itself and going higher. In a scene reminiscent of
the... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********m 发帖数: 16971 | 12 May 14, 2014 13:09 EDT
ZU, FEYE
FireEye calls active with IPO lock-up date approaching
FireEye (FEYE) May 28 and 29 weekly calls area active on total call volume
of 13K contacts (3K puts) with lock-up date approaching on May 21.
zulily (ZU) had an IPO lock-up expiration today and shares are recently up.
May weekly call option implied volatility is at 94, June is at 79, September
is at 72; compared to its 26-week average of 67 according to Track Data.
Active call volume suggests traders tak... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******l 发帖数: 3662 | 13 FEYE还能不能short了?还能不能再压出些水分来,还是cyber attack的消息会让FEYE
有上涨空间?
HIMX怎么样?现在可以进一点? |
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g***e 发帖数: 71 | 14 Feye目前处于超跌反弹,和消息面关系较小,和交易量关系较大,今天缩量了,如果明
天3点半前还是不到5M,我会下船,我的成本是$27。交易量超过6M,估计会补到40以上
那个缺口。我会持有到6月
FEYE
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7 |
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t**u 发帖数: 1572 | 15 http://www.techinsider.net/fireeye-inc-feye-palo-alto-networks-
The Fast Money team noted, however, that these stocks have had roller
coaster rides recently. Asked what his price targets are for FireEye Inc (
NASDAQ:FEYE), Palo Alto Networks Inc (NYSE:PANW), and Splunk Inc (ANSDAQ:
SPLK), he noted that he only covers Splunk. His price target for the company
is $80. The stock closed at $43.85 per share yesterday. He added that
FireEye and Palo Alto Networks are both trading calls and that he will... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******l 发帖数: 3662 | 16 就是没长气啊。本来home depot安全漏洞的问题,加上apple的icloud的安全漏洞问题
,这新闻怎么也够FEYE涨个两三天,才一天就泻了。FEYE就好像井里面的青蛙一样,往
上爬2米,往下滑1米。本来早上还想买点,幸亏没追高。 |
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f*******t 发帖数: 7549 | 17 首先声明我是青蛙,FEYE庄家乱抬价,太明显了才看出来的。来说一下记忆中的股价变
化:
我在稳定在30左右时进了一些,后来一个银行调低了它的股价预期,跌到26左右,这个
当然正常。后来有一天突然说FEYE跟其它几家公司结成了一个联盟,也没说清到底要干
啥,股价狂涨,回到30左右。再后来就上周吧,说逮住了俄罗斯政府的黑客,又狂涨到
33+。我就无语了,这公司随便吹个牛就涨10%,有没有天理。昨天收盘前果断34空了10
股,毕竟是青蛙不敢玩大的,扣掉手续费就赚个盒饭钱。 |
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d********1 发帖数: 2462 | 18 这些公司都有自己的perspective coverage areas,细看完全不一样。
PANW就业绩来说,是一堆security companies里做的最好的,主要是采取了
subscription based revenue model,收入稳定,enterprise users不需要大量投入
capital investment on servers (technologies and labors)就可以得到一定保障,
panw的board members都很厉害,referral的都是大客户大订单。
CYBR的老板是犹太人,军队里出来的,它是做cyber security里一个比较特殊的
priviliege control and tracking,这个是app layer,user理论上不需要买特殊的
hardware就可以投入,现在所有的sites都有这样那样的login, AWS, 需求很大,所以
公司成长很快。
其他还有QLYS, PFPT, Checkpoint什么的,都有自己比较强的territories,但是最好
避开Cisco, cuda之类需要有har... 阅读全帖 |
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t**c 发帖数: 392 | 19 FEYE 什么时候买了家中国公司?莫非你是说Mandiant?
这是FEYE最牛的一次并购,不过这是家美国公司。他指责中国而已。最著名的就是发现
61398部队。
signature, |
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x*********n 发帖数: 28013 | 20 hey, you can list as many as you know, but you are layman for sure. Because
the way you list is non logical at all( may sound rude, but it is true)
As investors, we don't need to know details, believe me, I know more details
than you thought. I am IT professional.
Regular firewall does have all those basic features, based on target users,
some may have, some may not.
For FEYE, their technology is still #1, no one got this zero day solution,
as today, no one is even close
Please don't mislead oth... 阅读全帖 |
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x*********n 发帖数: 28013 | 21 hey, you can list as many as you know, but you are layman for sure. Because
the way you list is non logical at all( may sound rude, but it is true)
As investors, we don't need to know details, believe me, I know more details
than you thought. I am IT professional.
Regular firewall does have all those basic features, based on target users,
some may have, some may not.
For FEYE, their technology is still #1, no one got this zero day solution,
as today, no one is even close
Please don't mislead oth... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 22 以下转帖:
这些公司都有自己的perspective coverage areas,细看完全不一样。
PANW就业绩来说,是一堆security companies里做的最好的,主要是采取了
subscription based revenue model,收入稳定,enterprise users不需要大量投入
capital investment on servers (technologies and labors)就可以得到一定保障,
panw的board members都很厉害,referral的都是大客户大订单。
CYBR的老板是犹太人,军队里出来的,它是做cyber security里一个比较特殊的
priviliege control and tracking,这个是app layer,user理论上不需要买特殊的
hardware就可以投入,现在所有的sites都有这样那样的login, AWS, 需求很大,所以
公司成长很快。
其他还有QLYS, PFPT, Checkpoint什么的,都有自己比较强的territories,但是最好
避开Cisco, cuda之类... 阅读全帖 |
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p***y 发帖数: 18037 | 23 Do you actually like Liz Lemon the character or Tina Fey the actress?
What's Tina Fey like as a real person?
展开说说吧。 |
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h**e 发帖数: 446 | 25 比我预计的稍微快了点因为最近这两个星期市场超级熊。
不过FEYE这一轮下跌是不以人的意志为转移的,只是快慢的问题。
接下小幅反弹,然后继续南下。至于底在哪里,我也不知道。
极端情况会到35,40之间。所以近期内没有啥可炒的了。 |
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C******k 发帖数: 349 | 26 都破了,是不是
AMZN 看310底
LNKD 看166底
FEYE 看55底
我有点悲观了,大牛指个明路。
180 |
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j**l 发帖数: 486 | 27 股板有 FEYE TWTR 的早就走了吧?
别看着便宜, 这两个还没见底 |
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h**e 发帖数: 446 | 28 当熊市来临是,最爽的就是空那些大泡泡股,FEYE 是其中的典型代表 |
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A**X 发帖数: 1825 | 29 FEYE 3月6号宣布$82增发了一轮,现在跌破45了。 |
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h**e 发帖数: 446 | 32 刚刚算了一下, 30是feye 的合理价。当然股市里合理这俩字不搭边 |
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c****w 发帖数: 2830 | 33 新浪2000年的时候最低价是1块
买此类股票的心里底线是1块,和当年大富翁2代里的股票交易所一样。2代交易所里所
有的股票,电脑程序设定最低价为10快00。所以碰到了10快00的股票完全无脑。
所以结论是无论twtr fb feye googl yelp 只要哪天跌到了1块,无脑凹印。 |
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E**********r 发帖数: 2743 | 34 (INFO ONLY, NOT INVESTMENT SUGGESTION)
Oversold Tech Momentum High-Flyers May Be Ready to Bounce
By Lee Jackson May 9, 2014 8:35 am EDT
Last year and the early part of 2014 was all about the momentum trade. There
was so much fast money chasing hot tech IPOs and tech darlings that the
market kept feeding on itself and going higher. In a scene reminiscent of
the late 1990s and the 2000 tech meltdown, when the day of reckoning came,
the selling started and turned into a tsunami. In a new researc... 阅读全帖 |
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E**********r 发帖数: 327 | 35 FEYE, NMBL, RAX, SPLK, QLGC,这几个今天都反弹了。 |
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E**********r 发帖数: 327 | 36 这篇捞底文章的作者还是很有料的。
文中提到的5个PICK,从上周五的关盘价算起,到这周的关盘价,分别涨/跌了:
RAX (26.28 - 36.12) +37.44%
NMBL (20.59 - 26.45) +28.46%
FEYE (26.44 - 27.89) +5.48%
QLGC (9.87 - 9.785) -0.86%
SPLK (46.50 - 43.76) -5.89% |
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m**********n 发帖数: 2894 | 39 我给你们说点内幕吧
FEYE是投资者和CEO意见不一致闹矛盾引起投资者撤资引起股票大跌。。。 |
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t*******l 发帖数: 3662 | 40 早上买的FEYE和solar city现在涨势喜人
像我这样不懂股市的,只能避开垃圾股,然后从绩优股抄底。
没有第二条路。 |
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S*********t 发帖数: 620 | 41 貌似没有。不过凡是不太垃圾的股票,都会涨久必跌,跌久必涨。30以下对FEYE也不会
跌到哪儿去,我从图上看觉得它差不多了,如果能突破30附近的200日均线再进应该更
安全吧。 |
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S*********t 发帖数: 620 | 42 Sold TWTR call, add more FEYE |
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S*********t 发帖数: 620 | 43 Definitely keep FEYE, sold LOCO and loaded FB |
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j****i 发帖数: 742 | 44 bought FEYE at 29, this morning added more positions... |
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r*********C 发帖数: 2019 | 46 嗯,有道理。这个本来就是抢反弹,所以不会压大钱。长期我并不看好FEYE,所以原则
就是赚到位就跑。 |
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i******y 发帖数: 1049 | 47 FEYE,TRIP,AWAY,YELP,TWTR,losers。 |
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t**********8 发帖数: 756 | 48 今天又被砸了,好奇怪,同时做网络安全的,另一个PANW就表现的很好,很受花街欢迎
,股价也很稳定,FEYE就像是被人家玩的,上窜下调的。
知道的人可以说说吗? |
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u******n 发帖数: 5727 | 50 lnkd,feye都挺好的古,不能无脑买put。。 |
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