h*s
发帖数: 322 | 1 其实iphone上没flash的原因大家都很清楚: flash太强大了 用了它会影响developer
adopt apps开发。因为很多事不需要去写app 用flash就行了
写app的人少了 苹果那百分之三十的抽头就没了 所以不难理解
其实不管你饭谁 利润最大化的目的都是一样 大家都是资本家嘛
不过说实话 jobs这一着够牛的 事实证明了他的目的达到了 我老虽不饭果子也不由地
佩服 |
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x**h
发帖数: 1564 | 2 这个逻辑不太对吧
最早iphone只支持web app被骂的一塌糊涂，apple才开放SDK
我不觉得flash能影响app
如果flash用来web app，那使用有限,难成大器
如果flash用在iphone app里，apple照样抽成 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 3 some quote:
Flash CS5 includes the ability to convert Flash apps and games into code
that will be accepted by the iTunes App Store, though according to the
sources for the report that isn’t yet working in the beta versions of the
software:
This functionality is not working in the current beta versions. We don’t
think serious developers will use Flash for creating iPhone applications. It
also appears that Adobe continues to miss the boat with HTML 5, and is
focused almost exclusively on trying to |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 4 android doesn't have flash yet.
RIM? I don't think they have flash.
WM7 so far has no flash either.
) |
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m*****g
发帖数: 54 | 5 http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/02/19/why-is-steve-jobs-flash-obsessed/?
source=yahoo_quote
"Flash would also allow iPhone and iPad users to consume video and other
entertainment without going
through iTunes. Flash would let users freely obtain the kinds of features
they can only get now at the Apple
App Store."
"Each of these companies seeks to create unique runtimes and APIs that
provide a strategic wedge that can
drive other aspects of their business," he wrote. "At one level |
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m**u
发帖数: 541 | 6 Flash经常夹带私货，把机器搞死。绝对应该禁止Flash。当然国内的网站巴不得用
Flash，搞死你没商量。 |
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s*********d
发帖数: 165 | 7 Ordinary customers, who do not know much about flash, think that supporting
flash is a feature that iphone is missing.
More and more competitors are playing the "support flash" card in marketing.
starting |
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 8 Look at how that guy responsed about the flash crashing thing on Mac - it is
really a joke. A typical talk guy.
If I were him, I would say "yes flash on mac sucks because mac accounts for a small portion of flash users and
we ignored it. Now we can make it better, giving 4 months...." haha
E7A8A5A04E49.html |
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t******a
发帖数: 1200 | 9 Steve Jobs 那篇文章是他个人典型的 "reality distortion field" 风格。
网上批驳的文章很多，个人觉得 Jesse Warden 这篇写得最好.
Steve Jobs 文章里抱怨 Adobe 懒，直到 Adobe Creativity Suite 5 才 native
支持 Cocoa, 反驳观点是 Apple 自己的 iTunes 以前也是一直不 native 支持
Cocoa, Snow Leopard 版本之前的 Mac OS X 里的 Finder也不是 Cocoa 程序。
http://jessewarden.com/2010/04/steve-jobs-on-flash-correcting-the-lies.html
Steve Jobs on Flash: Correcting the Lies
Apple has posted Steve Jobs’ “Thoughts on Flash“. There are a lot
of lies and half truths. No one will care. The article h |
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 10 It is an interesting post since it triggers a lot of debates, such as the
one below:
Let’s go through these claims of lies one by one shall we:
1 – Flash IDE proprietary. Fact. Flash Player open? Well, not really, you
have documented SOME of the SWF format, and as such, someone else’s Flash
player may not run them. Is this open? NOT AT ALL. You’ve mentioned 5
things that are perhaps a little bit open, or utilise something that someone
else created – badly I might add with conformance to ECMAScri |
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p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 11 捆绑IE怎么evil了？欧洲出了没有IE的Windows，然后就出现了“怎么下载
FF/Opera/Chrome”的问题
evil的是在底下做手脚让netscape出问题，但是就算这样，M$也不敢明目张
胆说不许netscape运行
水果敢不支持flash，归根结蒂不是因为it影响力够大，而是因为it影响力
不够大。所以意淫flash会死掉的还是歇歇吧，嚼不死赚他的钱，你们看着
flash的图标发呆，该干嘛干嘛 |
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r****y
发帖数: 26819 | 12 没错，我是第一个。不过好像我的观点不是说youtube存flv。
我说的是flash视频文件是flv格式。
这个话题灌出笑点也不容易啊。
结论就是，如果谁要说flash里的视频，不能说视频文件格式是flv，这是错的。
一定要说出采用什么编码，必须明确指出用别的播放器也能播放flash视频。 |
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s****c
发帖数: 11300 | 13 你有理解上的错误 不是说视频的本身编码是啥 而是像这样的视频网站后台实际的视频
根本就跟flash一点毛关系没有 这个跟你下载下来的东西是啥也一点关系没有 只有这
样才能随便的更改分辨率和限制下载
说的更浅显一点 那个哥们口口声声说的content 对于视频服务网站来讲 跟flash一点
关系没有 flash只是一个接口 换句话说 一个播放器而已 |
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p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 14 你们争这些干嘛？
用户只知道某些网站的video，没有flash player就没法看
你们不如争一下用户是complain网站非要用flash的多，还是complain自己的
设备不支持flash得多？ |
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b******y
发帖数: 2729 | 15 现在这么多用户用flash,这么多用户喜欢flash。你iphone不让用，我tm就用blackberry。你微软不让用，我就用chrome。你们要是伙起来都不支持，我用反垄断法告死你丫。
说白了，用户是上帝。用户喜欢的东西再大的独裁公司也没辙。Flash死不了. |
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g*******y
发帖数: 2114 | 17 其实我倒觉得有个选项可以关闭和开启flash还是不错的
flash网站现在还是大多数
不只是视频和游戏
有时候需要的时候看不了还是挺不爽的
关键是adobe做的太烂了
其实他要做好点
现在flash可能也会支持了 |
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d*********g
发帖数: 2906 | 18 这个原理是把SWF格式转换成SVG。
Flash的SWF是open source的。那个网站就把Flash转换成SVG。SVG是W3C对抗Flash的标
准，但可惜没有多少人支持，IE一点都不支持，Mozilla和Webkit支持一些，Adobe过去
支持的最好，开发了IE的SVG Plugin，覆盖了了100%的SVG标准。但很多年过去了SVG也
没有take off，现在只有那些地图网站用一用。几年前Adobe就把SVG的plugin给kill了
。 |
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r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 19 为什么 osx 还留着 flash 呢, flash 没啥用啊，连 iphone 都没有 flash, ipad 也
没有啊。 |
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s********n
发帖数: 1865 | 20 camera kit有两个部件：一个为SD卡，另一个为USB链接相机。
今天发现一个窍门儿，直接用USB那个部件插上flash drive可以把flash drive上的照片全部传到ipad。
窍门是：在flash drive里建一个名为DCIM的文件夹，然后把照片放进去。
接到ipad上后，会自动识别那个文件夹，导入照片。 |
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R****e
发帖数: 878 | 21 What a retard statement. Last time I checked, Youtube, youku, tudou are all
flash sites. Are they all dead?
It doesn't matter who is better, it's the market share that matters. The old
ugly dianosaur called IE 6&7 are still occupying more than 25% of the
browser market. Can you believe it?
Steve job will be dead before flash, that's for sure. 丫有种把flash从Mac OS
X踢出去啊？丫敢吗？ |
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R****e
发帖数: 878 | 22 What makes you draw conclusion that flash only sites are dead? Just because
a few popular sites starts to support html5? Last time I checked, hulu is
still flash only. Are they dead? Thank god you're not their CEO. Or their
investers probably already committed mass suicide.
The truth is, even for the so called html5 compatible sites like youtube. It
is still a flash only site to 99.9% percent of the people. Even if they are
using html5 compatible browsers. Besides a few of you apple fan boys who |
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R****e
发帖数: 878 | 23 Yeah it's really a huge difference be it 0.0001% or 1%.
I never said flash is good. But it is far from dead, which you're claiming
falsely. Flash blocker is to block the content. I'm sure when html5 flashy
ads floating around all over the web crawling up you CPU, it will be as bad
as flash. There will surely be html5 animation/video blockers.
I'm just really getting a kick out of the little fantasy world you apple fan
boys are living. Damn, let Apple make an iToilet and relieve us from all
the b |
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s******a
发帖数: 527 | 24 评论前至少把原帖看看仔细，显然原帖的评测是说，flash "ads" keep cpu running
这么说吧，我就用MBA只上mitbbs，首页上那些ads就能把我的电池折寿30%，所以大家
如果不想卸载flash而又想省电的
话，就应该尽量避免浏览flash ads多的页面。这么有用的信息有啥好在这里唧唧歪歪
的…… |
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k******y
发帖数: 1407 | 25 最近一段时间上MITBBS经常浏览器（不论是firefox还是Safari还是Google Chrome）占
用CPU 100%，一度很奇怪
后来发现最有可能的还是flash player的问题，flash越多的网页 基本上就是CPU100%
外加风扇狂转，比如MITBBS的首页，
像其他纯文字的页面完全没有问题
请问这样有没有什么解决方法？ 我重装过flash player，貌似没有解决问题 |
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l******o
发帖数: 2649 | 26 from arstechnica
The browser comes fully equipped with Adobe's Flash plug-in for rendering
rich media, but Flash performance proved to be exceptionally poor in the
WebTop environment. Flash animations slowed down page scrolling speed to an
extent that seriously undermined the usefulness of the browser. The problem
was easily remedied, however, by installing the Flashblock extension. |
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i***1
发帖数: 2534 | 27 http://blogs.computerworld.com/18922/adobe_brings_flash_free_fl
In other words, Adobe's solution repackages content in real-time, changing
the protocol to suit the target device, HTTP Dynamic Streaming or HLS, for
example. This should mean that iOS devices will get much of the advantages
of Flash video support, without the processor degradation and battery life
cost of the format in use on other devices. Though we still have to wait a
while longer until the "full Flash experience" of embedded ad... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 28 哪怕flash是他老婆做的，iPhone也跑不动。
等将来html5的网页比flash还吃资源后，苹果肯定高调支持flash。 |
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z**c
发帖数: 7595 | 29 不知道Jobs和Flash为什么要这么死磕，在Apple网站上看了Jobs列出的一大堆理由，好
象都不靠谱。 不支持Flash Game也就罢了，为什么连简单的视频都不支持？
在Youtube上面看到了有App看Flash的，有的根本不工作有的效果不行。 可能是升级了
IOS的原因？ 同学们怎么解决这个问题的？
比如那些Iswifter， Skyfire， Iosflashvideo，等等。 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 30 你这不自相矛盾么。。。不支持flash的是果子的iphoneipad又不是笔记本台式机，
mobile flash死掉而不是桌面flash死掉不正好证明了果子的决定很正确么。。 |
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g********e
发帖数: 6425 | 32 老乔对flash一眼看透啊，不佩服不行。
laid down its weapons. Adobe confirmed this morning that it will cease all
development of mobile versions of Flash. That means that Android, Windows
Phone 7, BlackBerry OS, and other devices that had touted Flash capability
as one of their key selling points will soon no longer matter. |
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s*i
发帖数: 5025 | 33 哈哈。够执着。
根本的问题应该是如果有两个iphone，一模一样，除了第一个用户可以选是否安装
flash，心情好的时候是否运行flash，而第二个iphone绝对不能安装flash。
，你选哪个？
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com] |
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n***e
发帖数: 57 | 34 basically, flash deals better w/ vector based graphics,
whereas director is best at bitmap based ones. flash is
mainly built for the web only, that's why u don't see it
much else where. director has the ability to access other
appz, like a database, and its files can be distributed as
.exe. that's why most educational and multimedia cds r built
by director. director has a more powerful language called
lingo. although flash 5's actionscript has improved a lot,
it's still not as powerful as lingo. |
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r****y
发帖数: 26819 | 35 想用flash设计个人主页，但是看了NewYork Times， Microsoft和一些大的站点，都
没有采用任何flash技术。于是想知道能看Flash动画的机器占多少比例，不知有没有
人知道大概数字。谢谢！ |
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e*******g
发帖数: 46 | 36 以前想做主页的时候一个哥们帮我做了一个flash
的index,后来一直就放在那里了 .现在主页已经完成.但是以前做的flash需要一点
小小的改动!!.就是改个上边的字,改个链接什么的.可俺对flash 5一窍不通.
有哪位哥们愿意帮这个小小的忙帮俺改亦下.绝对不会耽误你恨长时间的.
有愿意帮助的哥们可以发信到我信箱.多谢多谢
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 37 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 38 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 39 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 40 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 41 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 42 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 43 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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t**j
发帖数: 541 | 44 谁知道制作flash需要什么软件呀，想学学自己做flash。
刚才到网上search了一下，居然找不到有关flash制作的信息，是我太笨了，还是没有呀
？ |
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f**********r
发帖数: 42 | 45 最近在用dreamwaver做网页，想把朋友发的flash小动画贴到网页上。该怎么做，请赐教
。另，本人对flash一窍不通，大虾能否传授一些flash的粗浅知识。感激不尽。 |
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j*****o
发帖数: 320 | 46 DB <===> PHP page <===> Flash
用Flash把input送到PHP应该没有问题，但是PHP能把输出送到Flash么？
谢谢。 |
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m****u
发帖数: 1 | 47 请问，如果是flash的网页上的link（动态的）要联结到database，可是database的code
是php（静态的）,用什么方法才能连接呢？
For example: to maintain a session, we cannot give a static hyperlink for
'selection' link in flash like "http://....", instead we have to use a php
function to generate hyperlink for it dynamically: . But
unfortunately it doesn't work for flash。
鞠躬鞠躬！ |
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r****r
发帖数: 755 | 48 don't know exactly what you want to do here.
but
When you generate the html page where flash movie is embedded,
you could
This set a mylink var in flash movie to the value you want.
and can you just use a session cookie?
请问，如果是flash的网页上的link（动态的）要联结到database，可是database的code |
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c**********e
发帖数: 236 | 49 类似这个效果http://nara.ik8.com
三条金鱼下面的文字还可以显示.
三条金鱼是个flash,在闪客帝国那里有下,但是就不知道怎样实现这个flash下面还可以显
示文字,我试过用层.不行.flash总挡住文字.大侠请指教! |
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r****y
发帖数: 26819 | 50 Flash can be done through pure actionscript coding, thus you can use any
text editor to do it.
For Open Source flash, they use free Eclipse a lot.
I personally think this is the pretty of flash. |
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