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LutherHead (陆涉海|我是火箭的头儿) 于 (Wed Jan 23 20:19:09 2008) 提到:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0upQDkY-pg&feature=related
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Jingqg1979 (qi'e&pan) 于 (Wed Jan 23 20:32:50 2008) 提到:
flop是什么意思？
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nayiwan (那一晚) 于 (Wed Jan 23 20:33:22 2008) 提到:
一种民间表演艺术
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Jingqg1979 (qi'e&pan) 于 (Wed Jan 23 20:33:38 2008) 提到:
假摔？
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w*****d
发帖数: 2415 | 2 正常人类都能看出来Bogut早就把位置站好了，这都不是Kobe Charging, offensive foul,那篮球规则可以修改了。不过湖饭占到裁判的便宜偷乐就行了，干嘛还非要出来证明裁判的误判是“正确”的呢？
这是一个youtube上面的评论：
Bogut's feet dont have to be stationary. Look up the rules of basketball. A player must establish legal guarding position in the path of the offensive player before the contact is made. Says nothing about feet moving. Flop or not, Bogut CLEARLY does this. This is a charging foul plain and simple. And if it isnt an offensive foul, then it is a no-call which results |
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K*4
发帖数: 1808 | 3 你这个youtube上面的评论很不靠谱.首先你得理解什么叫"establish legal guarding
position". 你的脚在动,能叫做"establish legal guarding position"?
foul,那篮球规则可以修改了。不过湖饭占到裁判的便宜偷乐就行了，干嘛还非要出来
证明裁判的误判是“正确”的呢？
A player must establish legal guarding position in the path of the offensive
player before the contact is made. Says nothing about feet moving.
Flop or not, Bogut CLEARLY does this. This is a charging foul plain and
simple. And if it isnt an offensive foul, then it is a no-call which results
in a travelling violation on |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 4 Bogut was sliding to his right, if he didn't do that, there wouldn't be
enough contact to fake a flop. And he did that after Kobe gathered the ball.
The rule is below:
http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_c.html?nav=ArticleList
A defensive player is not permitted to move into the path of an offensive
player once he has started his shooting motion.
Yes, it talked about moving. The only move a defense player is allowed to do
is moving backward.
foul,那篮球规则可以修改了。不过湖饭占到裁判的便宜偷乐就行了，干嘛还非要出来
证明裁判的误判是“正确”的呢 |
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x**l
发帖数: 978 | 5 好像还真是。我一开始也认为因该是CHARGE.看完这慢镜头回放，BOGUT在kobe转身之后
两脚向右滑了一步，身体接触之后顺势倒地。因该是BLOCK+FLOP.
不过KOBE进得球不知道应该算不算，因为多走了一步。
ball.
do |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 6 PP那个没啥好说的，手伸出去了，哪怕没推被flop了也是
自己先脑残。 |
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s**c
发帖数: 34339 | 7 可比最后一攻，手也伸出去了，也就是阿伦没flop。
赢了球还得在嘴上也占便宜，有意思么 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 8 flop很多年前就是篮球正规技术了.国内应该也有普及. |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 10 4MVP 多吗好的flopping领袖啊。呵呵。嘿嘿。吼吼。 |
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n****e
发帖数: 4990 | 11 想flop也得有那智商，kobe这种IQ的就算了，对他来说还是挥肘子上膝盖容易一些 |
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d*z
发帖数: 347 | 12 要说LBJ是flop的MVP，更应该是五步或六步的MVP。 |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 14 有人说六步郎进步太慢。
我看六步郎在flop这方面进步很快啊。的确是MVP。 |
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D****u
发帖数: 735 | 15 This is more of a self-protection than flop. If you play ball you should
know that if you cannot follow the offensive player's step, you may
overthrow yourself. If this happens, rolling onto the wood is the best
option to prevent yourself from twisting your ankle.
And it does not need a high IQ to tell the difference between the two. Just
need to play ball and know how it works on the court. |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 16 正因为中立，才能随便说。
我没有说六步郎脏。但是我说典韦和巴蒂尔脏。
博士虽然软，但是不脏，也没有flop。我想博士
一定是在心里鄙视六步郎和典韦。 |
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D****u
发帖数: 735 | 17 I do not flop.
--Lechoke |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 18 看了众多六步郎flop的视频，真的很赞赏六步郎的演技。
虽然他挡人的时候经常把对方后卫撞到在地，但是当他
遇到对方挡人的时候，六步郎在表演如何倒地的时候非
常优秀（MVP），有一种晕头转向摇摇欲坠的感觉。就
好像他已经是脑震荡了一样。每次倒地，都要晃三晃，
快要死了的感觉。仔细看看，给人一种美的享受。 |
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S****s
发帖数: 11288 | 20 所以我黑真巨头的时候是针对其软
不说他flop，因为他软到一肘子挥过来的风就打到他脑震荡了 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 21 这哥们有两次一模一样的表演，
不知道是不是flop
可能就是被吓唬的 |
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e****e
发帖数: 931 | 24 Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat center Chris Bosh has been fined $5,000 by the NBA for violating the
league's anti-flopping rules during Game 4 of the NBA Finals. |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 25 哈哈 这个软蛋 后来还挺硬的
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat center Chris Bosh has been fined $5,000 by the NBA for violating the
league's anti-flopping rules during Game 4 of the NBA Finals. |
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p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 27 这个不算flop吧，和第一场最后雷阿雷的那个我问过的差不多，出手后落地前有身体接
触 |
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b********r
发帖数: 2242 | 29 是小夸张了一点，但尼玛推人不吹进攻犯规还罚一flop，这是为下场定基调的节奏嘛？
？ |
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B********e
发帖数: 10014 | 31 闪电侠直接甩1万5出来，下三场包场了
caught
flopping |
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B********e
发帖数: 10014 | 32 出3万买5个flop，5个一级恶意犯规，直接两场拿下冠军？ |
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z*******g
发帖数: 2429 | 33 那个也算flop??
呵呵，NBA，我也不说什么了。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 上了高光，最尼玛讽刺的是丫flop了TT，介尼玛叫敌友不分，为戒指神马卑鄙神马无耻
的伎俩都干 |
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s**a
发帖数: 1995 | 35 装在我的killo tt 上，要轻点，flip-flop。路面不太好，所以要结实耐用，能装28的轮胎。最好还能便宜点,再被偷了损失不会太大。请勿推荐DYI，没有true wheel的工具。
另外double wall 什么意思啊？
谢谢。 |
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s******r
发帖数: 21961 | 36 that is really BS.
flop should be punished like fragrant fall. |
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发帖数: 1 | 37 一次完美的flop带来的视觉享受绝逼不亚于一个隔扣。 |
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A**U
发帖数: 1116 | 38 had 67suited in late position and limped in.
a guy in blinds raised to 10 and i called 8. heads up.
flop 458 rainbow.
the guy bet 15. I called.
turn 3.
the guy bet 30. i raised to 80. he called.
river J.
he went all in for about 120. he showed his JJ.... |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 39 He is very loose and aggressive( he all in with JK before bf flop).
He played 8 table the same time( like a pro) ,and his total aggresive factor
is very high above 6 I think.
Still, he may get KK or AA....... |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 40 i would call +$60, and gather more info. on flop... all-in is meaningless
here since he would call anyway, only to add your own risks with troublesome
QQ hand.
the |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 41 I called and flop is smaller card, no flush draw, and I all in my self......
.140$ more for him |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 42 that's not aggressive, that's just suicide...Then it's the best to
push him all in, cause he still may miss the flop and fold to your bet
if you only call.
factor |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 43 He should push all in cause most likely his QQ is still the best
now. Suppose you call, when overcards appear and opp pushes all in,
you may get bluffed out of pot. Another case is when the flop misses opp,
he may fold. So it's really the best to push him all in early.
QQ is a huge favorate against low pairs and plays very well against Ax.
If I know my opp may hold AA or KK for a very low percentage, and would
call my all in with Ax or low pairs, I'd certainly push him all in.
However, against d |
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 44 why not just call? he may has Ax
you want to see the flop before you move all in..
the |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 45 1/2 NL, buy-in 100. The table seems passive, many hands limping-in. You
are in early position AQ, limp-in, so as 6 others. The big blind seems to
be a good player. He has about 120 chips. He made a raise to 10. You
called, so as guy on button, others fold. The pot is about 40.
Flop A84 rainbow, the BB bet out 20. What should you do?
- fold
- call
- re-raise to 40
- re-raise all-in |
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c********e
发帖数: 267 | 46 I think I did not make myself clear,
I say the other guy would raise at UTG before flop if he has a low pair,
compared to if he has AA/KK or suited connectors he's unlikely to raise
first. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 47 man, should be an easy fold.
The flop falls into his range. Your hand does not improve at all.
top pair is no good there. (if he does have jj or qq, he will fold to your
allin, otherwise, your hand is face up, easy call for him)
and if you call, 2 bets wait for you.
at least 2 pair,
set very likely.
str8 possible, but may play differently. |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 48 flop J( almost in the prize pool) now 0!! |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 49 saw it, man, you would have been at least top 50...
it sucks big when you have a healthy stack and somebody runs into you with
such a hand... sigh, that's why i stop playing MTTs after last time my AA
got busted by QQ at 20th out of 1600, same sh*t, raise-reraise-all-in...,
flop Qxx... got sh*tty $67 after 5 hours play. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 you must be super short stack, the other one can call you with any two.
you didn't expect to flop a set, he didn't expect you have 99 either...
STACK is the key, if you have a good stack (you need to work all the way up)
, only the most foolish would call you with this on the bubble.
i tell my self, forget about bad beats, remember more bad plays, only that
would help me improve. |
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