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h*****y
发帖数: 997
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来自主题: Money版 - Dish乱收费,如何取消合同?
“客服威胁我们说,如果取消服务,要交300快的罚金,说是有两年的合同”
just tell them: I don't think I have any contract with you. if you believe
there is a contract, then I have to take a look.
我的一个朋友有类似的经历,CONTRACT 上没有他的签名,或者根本不是他的签名,具
体情况我记不清了。反正是CANCEL掉了。
另一个朋友订CABLE,安装的工人CHARGE了双倍的钱,还篡改了签名的单子。朋友发现
了DOUBLE CHARGE,直接找到LOCAL OFFICE,见了经理,这过程中发现了被篡改的单子
。也就是朋友手里的单子,和公司留底的单子不一样,公司的单子有更多的内容,是安
装工人后来又写上去的。朋友很生气,告诉经理FORGERY IS A CRIME。经理吓坏了,说
这只是安装工人的错,然后免费给了最好的PACKAGE.
u*****a
发帖数: 6276
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 这个造假,成国际笑话了
Yesterday at 11:20 am edited June 20
Clearly she, or someone she persuaded or paid to help her, committed forgery
of two admissions letters and one e-mail. This a sad and pathetic story.
And while I don't want to be guilty of painting with broad brush, I will
risk this comment: I live in an area with a burgeoning Asian population. The
change in the ethnic composition of our community has produced an
atmosphere of extreme and sometimes damaging academic competition in our
PUBLIC schools. Just ye... 阅读全帖
n*****d
发帖数: 18
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涉及金额几千美元吧,theft,Idendity theft, ID forgery。Federal crime, 是
Felony。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
a*********r
发帖数: 96
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来自主题: Returnee版 - 持美国护照回国长呆的办法
That is OK for sure for the FIRST time only.
If you redo it, you will have a problem. When you re-enter China with
Chinese passport and U.S. green card for the second time, the Chinese border
control will find out you did not get an entry stamp into U.S. last time
you left China, and you may be sent back to U.S.
If you are bold enough to solve this problem by stamping a fake U.S. custom stamp on your Chinese passport by yourself, you committed a forgery an official seal, a felony punishable by p
f*******z
发帖数: 32
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来自主题: Returnee版 - 持美国护照回国长呆的办法
本贴讨论的任何方法都是非法的,我帖子第一句话就说了,只是看违法成本而以。
入关章漏盖也是常有的事,特别对永久居民,我从加拿大陆上入美国或curise回美国都
没盖到入境章。
如果你要在中国几年,再出境前护照遗失换一本就是了。

border
custom stamp on your Chinese passport by yourself, you committed a forgery
an official seal, a felony punishable by prison in China. So, you may end up
stay in Chinese prison, (possibly being beaten up by your follow ward-mates
or by policemen cuz you surrendered your U.S. citizenship), then be sent
back to U.S.(pay the most expensive same-day ticket out of your own pocket),
a
r***o
发帖数: 1526
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没有因为存假支票惹官司算好的了,看看人家金义敢吧
2006年4月底大都会地产公司在报纸上登载的一则呼吁,叙述了案件原由:
在一张假支票租房的欺诈案中,美国的司法部门不去追寻罪犯,法庭却判受害人金先生
有罪,事情经过如下:
一.在英特网上租房受骗
2005年7月26日,华盛顿大都会地产公司房地产经纪人金先生因在租房网站
Craigslist.org上放了一个广告,要分租阿林顿地铁站边公寓的一个房间,当天就在
Yahoo Email上收到一个自称叫简.坎贝尔的人要租房子的电子邮件,经过电子邮件联络
,简说她受公司委派在非洲尼日利亚工作将返回,愿付500美元租房,公司将寄一张
支票给金先生,要求金先生把支票兑现,留下租金,把余额立即汇往尼日利亚指定地点
,以便简买飞机票回美国。
二.收到假支票
8月1日金先生收到一张来自国际公路联合会(International Road Federation) $
4950的公司支票.因支票面值过大,金先生不敢贸然相信,8月2日上午金先生去自己
的开户行美洲银行的马纳萨斯分行问值班经理,这张支票有没有问题,值班经理说看不
出问题,但不是美洲银行银行的支票,... 阅读全帖
d******8
发帖数: 1972
7
CNN) -- A rogue trader has cost UBS an estimated $2 billion, the Swiss
banking giant announced Thursday, revealing what could be the third-largest
loss of its kind in banking history.
A $2 billion rogue trading loss would be all but unprecedented, market
analyst Ralph Silva told CNN.
"We have only had three or four other situations... in the billions, and
that is exactly what happened," he said.
The bank is large enough to take a $2 billion hit, experts said. Shares in
UBS were down 11% on the U... 阅读全帖
v****e
发帖数: 19471
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来自主题: Stock版 - 股票也有假的,哈哈
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46245288
Wisconsin Woman Accused of Selling Fake Facebook Stock
Published: Thursday, 2 Feb 2012 | 7:53 PM ET Text Size By: Reuters Twitter

A Wisconsin woman has been charged with theft over accusations she tried to
profit from Facebook's much-anticipated plans to go public by selling fake
stock in the social media giant.
In a criminal complaint on Thursday, prosecutors said Marianne Oleson told
acquaintances she obtained $1 million in stock because her daughter was an
... 阅读全帖
h******u
发帖数: 4
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从信封上看,来自于 Department of the treasury, Financial Management service,
Regional Financial Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, check上写有Austin,
Texas,但还有一行kans cytax refund.怀疑是kansas city tax refund缩写。背面有
warning do not cash check without noting watermark. U.S. treasury还有Forgery
of endorsements on treasury checks is a federal crime, Maximum penality is
a 10000 fine and 10 years imprisonment. 去年我们夫妻分开填的税表,后来又添了
一份修改表变成了一起报税。 有一部分和填后应该比分开填多退的税一直没拿到,不
知道这张check是不是. 我们从来没去过kansas 阿,这张check到底是什么?请教大虾
,多谢多
l********t
发帖数: 16
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回复一下,ReReMark, 目标两百。

service,
Forgery
is
回复一下,ReReMark, 目标两百。
d*******p
发帖数: 2525
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楼主是自己拍脑袋乱想的还是亲身经历?
如果不是亲身经历,那么劝你还是不要这么做吧,不要最后搞成forgery,去享受免费吃
住了(申明:这是我拍脑袋乱想的)
l******c
发帖数: 1202
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This is how I did it. You take your own chance.
BTW, how does this connect with forgery?
H******i
发帖数: 4704
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结果是否会多几个spill over呢?
Coming to America Costs $500,000 With Job Plan Prone to Failures
2012-03-23 04:03:00.0 GMT
By Dune Lawrence
March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Civic leaders in El Monte, California, saw the
Transit Village development planned for land around the bus station as a way
to revitalize downtown.
Developers John Leung and Jean Lang pitched it as something else to
wealthy Asians: a ticket to a U.S green card.
The pair solicited $500,000 from a South Korean eager to win a resident
... 阅读全帖
m*******l
发帖数: 12782
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Fri Mar 23 09:31:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
结果是否会多几个spill over呢?
Coming to America Costs $500,000 With Job Plan Prone to Failures
2012-03-23 04:03:00.0 GMT
By Dune Lawrence
March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Civic leaders in El Monte, California, saw the
Transit Village development planned for land around the bus station as a way
to revitalize downtown.
Developers John Leung and Jean Lang pitched it as something else to
wealthy Asians: a t... 阅读全帖

发帖数: 1
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写给华尔街三名记者的一封信:请恪守媒体人的原则与灵魂,并致美国记者协会(中文
全文附后)
Dear Miss Kate, Miss Aruna and Mr. Cezary:
On October 22, the Wall Street Journal published your report, China’s
Pursuit of Fugitive Businessman Guo Wengui Kicks Off Manhattan Caper Worthy
of Spy Thriller, which reported some of the contacts between official from
China’s Ministry of State Security and Guo Wengui. The report writes about
situation when four officials from China’s Ministry of State Security met
with Guo Wengui, and cited insiders in the... 阅读全帖
U********f
发帖数: 2482
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来自主题: LosAngeles版 - 钻石BAR华人卖假保险被抓
The California Department of Insurance (CDI) arrested Robinson Yang, 44,
Roland Yang, 43, and Sotheany "Teny" Hul, 42, of Diamond Bar on multiple
counts of theft, fraud and forgery. The three suspects are accused of
producing and selling hundreds of false certificates of insurance for
workers' compensation insurance. All three were booked between March 22 and
April 3, 2013 and are being held pending bail hearings.
"The greed and deception of these three individuals is egregious," said
Commission... 阅读全帖
r*******t
发帖数: 8550
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【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: docluver (docluver), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 5 11:02:10 2011, 美东)
UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
中国的兴与衰
(这是网上找到的最全的集合,欲下从速,删除后不再重新上传)
更多纪录片、教学视频请访问:http://www.docwiki.org
Course No. 8370 (48 lectures, 30 minutes/lecture)
Taught by Richard Baum
University of California, Los Angeles
Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley
下载链接:
http://www.fileserve.com/file/yYZSm8c/01- The Splendor That Was China... 阅读全帖
b**********5
发帖数: 7881
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On the outside, Jennifer Pan looked like the golden child.
Wearing the cloak of a perfect student from a Catholic school, and later the
veil of a graduate from the University of Toronto with a pharmacology
degree, she made her parents, Bich Ha and Huei Hann Pan, very proud.
But what would later unfold would be a story of love, hate, lies and murder.
Jennifer’s parents were hard-working laborers employed in auto-part
manufacturing. The former Vietnamese refugees were frugal so their two
children ... 阅读全帖
J******t
发帖数: 1945
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简而言之,owner's title insurance是买房时的一次性费用,是为你或后代拥有这个
房产期间所有title方面问题的保险。到底买不买是个人决定。我还是推荐买,因为房
产一般是个人很大一部分财产, 这点钱相对而言是小钱。
更多信息:
After your sales contract has been accepted, a title professional will
search the public records to look for any problems with the home's title.
This search typically involves a review of land records going back many
years. More than 1/3 of all title searches reveal a title problem that title
professionals fix before you go to closing. For instance, a previous owner
may hav... 阅读全帖
d******r
发帖数: 4
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【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: docluver (docluver), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 5 11:04:35 2011, 美东)
发信人: docluver (docluver), 信区: Military
标 题: UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 5 11:02:40 2011, 美东)
发信人: docluver (docluver), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 5 11:02:10 2011, 美东)
UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
中国的兴与衰
(这是网上找到的最全的集合,欲下从速,删除后不再重新上传)
... 阅读全帖
h****r
发帖数: 2056
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LOL, CHEATING AND FORGERY is everywhere.
F*V
发帖数: 3978
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比尔戈次(BILL GERTZ), 被认为是中情局或者摩萨德的特工, 造谣机器。
现在又在造谣, 博, 习, 周, 制造社会猜疑, 制造矛盾。
俄罗斯情报主任称他为CIA的工具。
他曾经造谣了依拉可的WMD, 有俄罗斯帮助偷运出境;
还造谣了阿奎达有核武器, 从而使反恐战争能够有"事实根据"而继续;
http://rense.com/general64/nim.htm
Bill Gertz's responsibility, as CIA (or Israeli intelligence) propagandist,
to roll out a new booga-booga story designed to scare the pants off little
girls and weak-kneed American adults no longer able to use their cerebral
cortexes, thanks to decades of incessant televised propaganda.
此外,他还曾经伪造CLASSICAL CABLE诬陷... 阅读全帖
d*********o
发帖数: 6388
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来自主题: Football版 - Giants, Eli accused of faked memorabilia
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/30/lawsuit-accuses
According to a a civil-racketeering, breach-of-contract, malicious-
prosecution and trade-libel suit filed Wednesday in Bergen County (N.J.)
Superior Court, a helmet displayed at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in
Canton as the one Eli Manning wore in Super Bowl XLII is a fake.
The New York Post reports that sports memorabilia collector Eric Inselberg
alleges that the helmet is one of many forgeries passed along by the team as
they “r... 阅读全帖
l*****r
发帖数: 990
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Made in China = Forgery
N******l
发帖数: 190
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来自主题: Collectibles版 - 一个大碗
But, is the bottom mark still one of the factors those experts look at, to
tell genuine ones from forgeries?
N******l
发帖数: 190
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来自主题: Collectibles版 - 欣赏一下 :=)
Here is the story:
估且抛开老周不谈,早年间我还算对清银币有些兴趣,
突然发现拍场及市面上多了一些AU, or even UC珍币,甚至金质样币, I was quite
puzzled.
With the development of modern computer and minting technology,
forgeries are getting more real-like and undetectable.
有些人用真银或真金制造伪币,
Compared with real uncirculated coins, they weigh the same, and look the
same.
NGC 及其他评级公司亦或不能识别,亦或与大客户达有某种默契.
And the auction companies are happy to see the transactions,
so they can take up to 12%, even 15% premium commission fee.
No matter what, they are alw
s*k
发帖数: 2941
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来自主题: Collectibles版 - 梅兰芳假票
还有人买,大佬说说怎么看得出是假的?
http://cgi.ebay.com/China-Forgery-Stamps-1962-Mei-Lanfang-Set-M
d******y
发帖数: 1039
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来自主题: Collectibles版 - 这张龙票应该是真的吧?
朋友刚刚回了信,我还是和买家商量cancel算了。以后还是不在网上搞大龙了。
I looked at it. it looks like a thick paper version. it looks ok to me,
though damaged, however, i can no longer be certain.
large dragon has got very high quality forgery on the market now, so lot
s of people stay away from it. be very careful.
I recommend you post the photos of this large dragon on this site: http:
//www.p1878.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=1
there are lots of knowledgeable people there, you will get your feedback
in a day or two then you c... 阅读全帖
A*********t
发帖数: 7481
d******y
发帖数: 1039
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画家没捞到多少钱还背上官司,不值阿
a**u
发帖数: 7128
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Artist 水平很高, 還是MODERN ART 本身就是騙人的勾當?
HAIR DRYER, 這點本事, 跟國內比真是兒戲。
他們怎麼這麼老實招出來, 說YARDSALE 撿到大漏不就得了。 不見得拍賣行告訴我們
東西哪裡來。
A*********t
发帖数: 7481
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抽象大师画吧.
可能是dealer把画家招出来.
r**m
发帖数: 1825
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modern art 就是个scam,和什么lv包包,钻石等等都是炒作的产物,
一个大幅红色方块卖8百万美金,装B的富翁看来不只是中国出产啊
m*****n
发帖数: 7450
34
来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 读《安娜卡列尼娜》
所以我说有神秘感,前面说其实列文长远的看来也是悲剧。
以下是小说的结尾。比较光明。注意托尔斯泰当时写小说的时候正当盛年,他的婚姻生
活也是正好处在美好的阶段,他在小说里大量的关于农庄,政治改革以及信仰等等的长
篇大论都是他当时心境的写照。
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“噢,你还没有走吗?”他突然听见基蒂的声音说,她正路过这里到客厅去。“怎么回
事,你没有什么不痛快的事吧?”
她说,借着星光注意地凝视着他的面孔。
要不是一道使繁星失去光辉的闪电照亮了他的面孔的话,她就不会看清他的面部。借着
闪电的光芒她看见了他整个的脸,看出他是平静而愉快的,她对他微微一笑。
“她懂得,”他想,“她知道我在想些什么。我要不要告诉她?是的,我要告诉她……
”但是他刚要开口的时候,她就说:
“噢,科斯佳!请你帮帮忙,”她说,“到角落上那个房间去看看,他们替谢尔盖·伊
万诺维奇安排得怎样了!我去不大方便。看看他们是不是放上新脸盆了?”
“好的,我立刻就去,”列文说,站直身体吻了吻她。
“不,我还是不告诉她的好,”当她从他身边走到前面去的时候,他想。“这对于我个
人说,是一个不可缺少的、十分重要的、非言语所... 阅读全帖
wh
发帖数: 141625
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(献给bos——bos对Eco的热情促我瞎写一气,请多点指……)
上周路过历史系墙壁,抬头发现一页广告纸:Umberto Eco来访意大利语系——天哪意
大利人那么低调,一点风声都没听到,若非撞墙差点漏掉!次日忍痛牺牲一堂荀况子,
去听做讲座的艾柯子——我最早读的他的书倒不是那本大名鼎鼎的畅销小说《玫瑰之名
》(Il Nome della Rosa, 1980),而是他一本正经驳斥“一百个读者有一百个哈姆雷
特”的主观自由阐释论的《阐释与过度阐释》(Interpretation and
Overinterpretation, 1992)。当时觉得这位学者端方正直;后来再读充满阴谋诡计凶
杀温情的《玫瑰之名》,又觉得这位学者作家亦正亦邪,机智调皮。比David Lodge悠
长,比Malcolm Bradbury喜气。顺便提一提,1986年的同名电影省略了小说的学院气,
突出通俗的侦探气;山顶孤独的修道院很有中世纪空气,扮演威廉修士的007演员Sean
Connery极帅气。
Eco也帅气——或者说具有磁铁般的魅力。别人介绍他时他专注地对视并做笔记;介绍
结束后他摊开垂在椅边的大手,那人... 阅读全帖
l*****a
发帖数: 38403
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 看这幅画里的少女的第一印象?
这是Beatrice Cenci的画像,前两天看狄更斯的意大利游记,看到这段
"The portrait of Beatrice di Cenci, in the Palazzo Berberini, is a picture
almost impossible to be forgotten. Through the transcendent sweetness and
beauty of the face, there is a something shining out, that haunts me. I see
it now, as I see this paper, or my pen. The head is loosely draped in white;
the light hair falling down below the linen folds. She has turned suddenly
towards you; and there is an expression in the eyes—although they are very
tender an... 阅读全帖
l**a
发帖数: 5175
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - Why did Edgar Allan poe die so early?
Her struggles with illness and death are believed to have affected his
poetry and prose, where dying young women appear as a frequent motif, as in
"Annabel Lee", "The Raven", and "Ligeia".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Eliza_Clemm_Poe
Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe (née Clemm; August 15, 1822 – January 30, 1847)
was the wife of American writer Edgar Allan Poe. The couple were first
cousins and married when Virginia Clemm was 13 and Poe was 27. Some
biographers have suggested that the couple's ... 阅读全帖
wh
发帖数: 141625
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 阿拉丁是格林兄弟的故事?
没找到格林兄弟的source,wiki只说这个故事是一千零一夜的法语翻译者添加的,原版
的setting居然是中国:
No Arabic source has been traced for the tale, which was incorporated into
the book Les Mille et Une Nuits by its French translator, Antoine Galland,
who heard it from a Syrian storyteller from Aleppo. Galland's diary (March
25, 1709) records that he met the Maronite scholar, by name Youhenna Diab ("
Hanna"), who had been brought from Aleppo to Paris by Paul Lucas, a
celebrated French traveller. Galland's diary also tells that his transl... 阅读全帖
s***e
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有原图吗?我有算法可以判断是否 image forgery.
d******r
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UCLA开放课程:中国的兴与衰 Fall and Rise of China
中国的兴与衰
(这是网上找到的最全的集合,欲下从速,删除后不再重新上传)
更多纪录片、教学视频请访问:http://www.docwiki.org
Course No. 8370 (48 lectures, 30 minutes/lecture)
Taught by Richard Baum
University of California, Los Angeles
Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley
下载链接:
http://www.fileserve.com/file/yYZSm8c/01- The Splendor That Was China, 600-1
700.avi
http://www.fileserve.com/file/9Ntu5q4/02- Malthus and Manchu Hubris, 1730-18
00.avi
http://www.fileserve.com/file/mUGJsFK/03- Barbarians at the... 阅读全帖
d*h
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 骑自行车是否需要给警察出示驾照
我看到前面那个帖子里面提到这个问题,发现很多人稀里糊涂,以为不给警察驾照就没
事儿。没想过美国是个警察国家吧。。。糊涂虫们?
1、各州的规定不太一样,但是德州,如果警察要驾照,你不给,警察是可以拘留你的。
2、警察给你Ticket不需要你的驾照一样可以开,警察会口头问你的姓名地址,你必须
如实回答。国内来的会以为骗骗警察没事儿。完全错误,你如果向警察谎报姓名和地址
将是forgery,属于重罪。为了一张ticket不值。
3、每个警察处理的时候态度可能不同,不要听人云亦云,你要是碰上一个mean的警察
也没有办法的,怪自己运气不好就是了。
d*h
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一点common sense:
1、我说的跟你是一个意思,有权不等于一定会用。你谎报ID,警察可以指控你forgery
,但是他愿不愿意追究,能不能找的到你都是未知的。我说的情况是发生的一个白人同
学身上的,的确发生过。
》但是,不等于不允许我说错,我把G,说成J,
》把AVE说成ST,这个也是重罪?
2、你说的这些都是common mistake, 任何IQ>60的人都不至于认为这个叫做造假。造假
是你从来没有住过东城,告诉警察你住东城,这个就是造假
3、如果你不愿意说,你是可以不说的。我前面只是强调不要说谎。直接跟警察讲你拒
绝回答并没有问题,警察也可能不理你,也可能把你按倒搜你兜查你证件。人警察可以
有很多借口这样做,可以说搜查毒品或者武器,都是合法的,关键看他是不是怀疑你,
愿不愿麻烦了。
s******l
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同意!

forgery
I******a
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来自主题: LES版 - 加州疯狂的法律
http://www.la.cityzine.com/2008/01/28/the-crazy-laws-of-califor
Here are a list of crazy laws that apply to California.
* A city ordinance states that a $500 fine will be given to anyone who
detonates a nuclear device within city limits.
* Alhambra: You cannot leave your car on the street overnight without
the proper permit.
* Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern,
school, or place of worship.
* A regulation in San Francisco makes it unlawful to us... 阅读全帖
A***s
发帖数: 389
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来自主题: Poetry版 - fwd various
THE PASSIONATE PILGRIM
I.
WHEN my love swears that she is made of truth,
I do believe her, though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutor'd youth,
Unskilful in the world's false forgeries.
Thus vainly thinking that she thinks me young,
Although I know my years be past the best,
I smiling credit her false-speaking tongue,
Outfacing faults in love with love's ill rest.
But wherefore says my love that she is young?
And wherefore say not I that I am old?
O, love's best habit is a sooth
a********m
发帖数: 15480
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来自主题: Reader版 - harry potter 8 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Literature 讨论区 】
发信人: autumnworm (虫子,秋天的), 信区: Literature
标 题: harry potter 8
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 10 14:40:16 2007)
http://gawker.com/news/forgeries/harry-potter-and-leopard+walk+up+to+dragon-284797.php
c****t
发帖数: 19049
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
LETTERS FROM ZEDELGHEM
CHATEAU ZEDELGHEM,
NEERBEKE,
WEST VLAANDEREN
29TH-VI-1993
Sixsmith,
Dreamt I stood in a china shop so crowded from floor to far-off ceiling with
shelves of
porcelain antiquities etc. that moving a muscle would cause several to fall
and smash to bits.
Exactly what happened, but instead of a crashing noise, an august chord rang
out, half-cello,
half-celeste, D major (?), held for four beats. My wrist knocked a Ming vase
affair off its
pedestal—E-flat, whole string section, g... 阅读全帖
b*********d
发帖数: 596
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于耶稣的经外记载
去wiki上查了一下Antiquities of the Jews这本书,发现一些有趣的东西:
1. 这本书从上帝创造亚当和夏娃开始写起;
2. 这本书里写到亚伯拉罕教会了埃及人先进的科技,然后又传到希腊,引发了希腊的
发展;
3. 目前所有与这本书相关的内容均来自于基督教的文献(all derive from Christian
sources (even the recently-recovered Arabic version);
4. 目前主流学者认为这本书与耶稣相关的内容至少在一定程度上被篡改了(Since the
mid 18th century, however, the consensus view among scholars has been that
the Testimonium Flavianum had at a minimum been altered by Christian scribes
, and possibly was outright forgery. Today, the majority of scholars hold to
the p
b*********d
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关于约瑟夫所著《犹太人历史》(Antiquities of the Jews)的保存和流传过程,维基
百科就有:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiquities_of_the_Jews
The extant copies of this work, which all derive from Christian sources (
even the recently-recovered Arabic version), contain two passages about
Jesus.
注意which开头的那个从句。
关于主流历史学界的观点:
Since the mid 18th century, however, the consensus view among scholars has
been that the Testimonium Flavianum had at a minimum been altered by
Christian scribes, and possibly was outright forgery. Today, the
G******e
发帖数: 9567
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Josephus Flavius and The Christ
Josephus Flavius, a famous historian. There are two alleged mentions of
Jesus in his histories. The first of them, the more extensive and more
famous one, is no longer quoted by Christian scholars. That is because they
know it is a blatant Christian forgery. The second passage is still in use.
"Josephus, the renowned Jewish historian, was a native of Judea. He was born
in 37 A. D., and was a contemporary of the Apostles. He was, for a time,
Governor of Galilee, the province in which Christ lived... 阅读全帖
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