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发帖数: 3781 | 1 3:24 Though all men without distinction are sinners, they may be justified (
dikaiouvmenoi, dikaioumenoi), that is, declared righteous and freed from all
charges in connection with their sin (Rom 5:1). This is not a reference to
being made righteous in any ethical or spiritual sense, but rather to a genu
ine legal pronouncement involving acquittal (cf. Rom 3:8). And God pronounce
s a person justified freely (dwreavn, dorean) by his grace. The idea of “fr
eely” reaches back to Paul’s comment in 3... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 2 The Bible clearly teaches that the natural, unregenerated man can do good, a
nd it offers many examples. We have already quoted from Romans 2 how unsaved
Gentiles recognize God's moral laws in their consciences, seek to obey them
, have guilt when they don't and even judge one another by that standard. Ye
s, it says "there is none that doeth good, no, not one" (Romans 3:12). But J
esus also said...... ye do good to them which do good to you ... sinners als
o do even the same" (Luke 6:33). We mus... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 3 第十三课
论末世
━━神最终启示计划的预告
一、序言
启示文学大宗师M. S. Terry谓末世论乃启示论的一部分；启示是先前未显示给人的真理
现今借着宣告（prophecy）宣示出来，故启示论包括末世论，但两者之差在于前者强调
神蕴藏在永远内的智慧，而后者着重快发生之事的程序；前者多论宣告者主动地向世人
发出警诫及劝勉，后者多论宣告者处被动地位承受及记叙末世启示；前者多以平铺直述
之文笔记录从神而来的启示，后者则以不同的文学特色（如象征文学，异象与异梦，寓
言与数字）描绘神在末世时的作为〔注1〕。
神在历史与将来的作为本是历代信徒热爱钻研的一门神学课题，只因古今诠释末世论之
学说纷纭，学者各持己见，致信徒难所附从，有些就裹足不前，不敢涉猎，遂引以为憾
。本课特简介末世论这繁杂的神学思潮，尽使读者因此而明了各末世论学派的神学重点
，进而有所适从。
二、末世论的“崛兴”
多年前，“那站在河水以上，穿细麻衣的对但以理说：你只管去，因为这话已经隐藏封
闭，直到末时”( 但12:9）的话在廿世纪的下半期似有甚多的“应验”。据圣经教义史
学者James Orr的考究，末世论这神学课题在廿世纪时似... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10694 | 4 刚贴给你的哥林多前书你还是没认真看。认真看看再说这些没根的话。
在贴一遍英文给你。
KJV：
1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will
bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this
world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not Go... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 5 by Dave Hunt
Leopard's Spots, Man's Skin Color - Like Sin?
That such natural deductions are the Calvinist's main weapon may explain why
their doctrines are so appealing to intellectuals. White continues:
Just as a person cannot change the color of their skin, or the leopard its s
pots, so the one who practices evil cannot break the bondage of sin and star
t doing good .... The New Testament continues the testimony of the radical d
epravity of man . . . Paul begins with a dreadfully long discussi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 6 D. Simple Point Outline
Idea: Justification Is Apart from Works and Circumcision
I. Justification Is Apart from Works (4:1-8)
A. The Citation of Genesis 15:6 (4:1-3)
B. The Nature of “Crediting” (4:4-5)
C. The Citation of Psalm 31:1-2a LXX (4:6-8)
II. Justification Is Apart from Circumcision (4:9-12)
A. Abraham’s Circumcumcision after Genesis 15:6 (4:9-10)
B. Abraham, the Father of Gentile Believers (4:11)
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发帖数: 3781 | 7 E. Exposition Proper
Paul has just argued in 3:21-31 that justification is by faith and is availa
ble to all men. And, since it is apart from any works of the law, all boasti
ng is excluded (cf. esp. 3:27-28). In 4:1-12 he will buttress this argument
with proof from the OT and the experience of Abraham and David.
4:1 Paul now turns to the example of Abraham. He asks the question: “What d
id Abraham find with regard to the manner in which God justifies a person? W
as it by faith or by works? Abra... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 8 F. Homiletical Idea and Outline
Idea: A Right Relationship with God…
I. Comes about not by Works, But by Faith (4:13-17)
A. The Peril of Works (4:13-15)
B. The Primacy of Faith (4:16-17)
II. The Kind of Faith We Need Is One That…(4:18-22)
A. Holds Up against All Odds and Is Characterized by…
1. Understanding the Circumstances (4:18-19)
2. Not Wavering (4:20)
3. Being Strengthened (4:20)
4. Giving Glory to God (4:20)
5. Full Confidence in God’s Power (4:21)
B. Leads to the Crediting of Righteousn... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1191 | 9 Romans 1 (King James Version)
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto
the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of
David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of
holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith
amo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10694 | 10 << Romans 1 >>
American Standard Version
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1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto
the gospel of God, 2which he promised afore through his prophets in the holy
scriptures, 3concerning his Son, who was born of the seed of David
according to the flesh, 4who was declared to be the Son of God with power,
according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead; even
Jesus Christ our... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 11 6:5 In v. 5 Paul further explains (gavr, gar) how it is that we can walk in
new life. We do so because of the ongoing effects of our participation in th
e death of Christ and our current participation in the resurrection of Chris
t. The future tense, “we will certainly also be united,” refers not to the
eschatological future (cf. John 5:28-29), but rather to the future with res
pect to the logic of the process of salvation. First, we are reckoned dead w
ith Christ, then we are reckoned to partic... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 12
JC's comment on Romans 1;1
With regard to the word Paul, as it is a subject
of no such moment as ought to detain us, and as nothing can be said
which has not been mentioned by other expounders, I should say nothing,
were it not proper to satisfy some at small expense without being
tedious to others; for the subject shall be despatched in a very few
words.
They who think that the Apostle attained this name as a trophy for
having brought Sergius, the proconsul, to the fait... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 13
Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to
come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among
you also, even as among other Gentiles.
".....We hence learn that the Lord frequently upsets the purposes of his
saints, in order to humble them, and by such humiliation to teach them to
regard his Providence, that they may rely on it; though the saints, who
design nothing without the Lord’s will, cannot be said, strictly speaking,
to be driven awa... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 14
知的心就昏暗了。
21. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither
were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish
heart was darkened.
"
For when they knew God, etc. He plainly testifies here, that God has
presented to the minds of all the means of knowing him, having so manifested
himself by his works, that they must necessarily see what of themselves
they seek not to know — that there is some God; for the world does not by
chance exist, nor could it ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 15
1:25他们将神的真实变为虚谎，去敬拜事奉受造之物，不敬奉那造物的主。主乃是可称
颂的，直到永远。阿们。
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
"
Who changed, etc. He repeats what he had said before, though in different
words, in order to fix it deeper in our minds. When the truth of God is
turned to a lie, his glory is obliterated. It is then but just, that they
should be besprinkled with every kind of infamy, who strive to take away
from God his ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 16 没有一个义人 is also used by Paul to teach Christian Jews that Jews are as b
ad as gentiles in nature.
but false prophet Augustine and John Calvin use it as a disgrace the humanit
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发帖数: 5754 | 17
17. Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy
boast of God,
"
7. Behold, thou art named a Jew, etc. Some old copies read εἰ δ&#
8050;, though indeed; which, were it generally received, would meet my
approbation; but as the greater part of the manuscripts is opposed to it,
and the sense is not unsuitable, I retain the old reading, especially as it
is only a small difference of one letter.[77]
Having now completed what he meant to say of the Gentiles, he returns ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 18
19. And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
"And believest thyself, etc. More is still granted to them; as though they
had not only what was sufficient for themselves, but also that by which they
could enrich others. He grants, indeed, that they had such abundance of
learning, as that others might have been supplied [80]
"
footnote
"80 Calvin has passed over here several clauses: they are so plain as to
require no remarks, except ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 19
"[82]Though the excellencies (encomia — commendations) which he has
hitherto stated respecting the Jews, were such as might have justly adorned
them, provided the higher ornaments were not wanting; yet as they included
qualifications of a neutral kind, which may be possessed even by the ungodly
and corrupted by abuse, they are by no means sufficient to constitute true
glory. And hence Paul, not satisfied with merely reproving and taunting
their arrogance in trusting in these things alone, emplo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 20
22. Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit
adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
"
22. Thou who abhorrest idols, etc. He fitly compares sacrilege to idolatry,
as it is a thing of the same kind; for sacrilege is simply a profanation of
the Divine Majesty, a sin not unknown to heathen poets. On this account Ovid
(Metamor. 3,) calls Lycurgus sacrilegious for despising the rites of
Bacchus; and in his Fasti he calls those sacrilegious hands wh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 21
20. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in
his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
"
20. Therefore by the works of the law, etc. It is a matter of doubt, even
among the learned, what the works of the law mean. Some extend them to the
observance of the whole law, while others confine them to the ceremonies
alone. The addition of the word law induced Chrysostom, Origen, and Jerome
to assent to the latter opinion;[106]for they thought that there is a
pecu... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4298 | 22 创世记 10:5
这些人的后裔，将各国的地土，海岛，分开居住，各随各的方言，宗族立国。
创世记 10:25
希伯生了两个儿子，一个名叫法勒（法勒就是分的意思），因为那时人就分地居住。法
勒的兄弟名叫约坍。
创世记 10:26
约坍生亚摩答，沙列，哈萨玛非，耶拉，
创世记 10:27
哈多兰，乌萨，德拉，
创世记 10:28
俄巴路，亚比玛利，示巴，
创世记 10:29
阿斐，哈腓拉，约巴，这都是约坍的儿子。
创世记 10:30
他们所住的地方，是从米沙直到西发东边的山。
创世记 10:31
这就是闪的子孙，各随他们的宗族，方言，所住的地土，邦国。
创世记 10:32
这些都是挪亚三个儿子的宗族，各随他们的支派立国。洪水以后，他们在地上分为邦国
。
-----------------圣经记载那个时候人有就不同的方言---------
创世记 11:1
那时，天下人的口音，言语，都是一样。
创世记 11：4... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3382 | 23 水王那个帖子你看了没？
这是wiki上的资料给你参考
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon
中间有一段是这么说的
It is stated in the Bible that Jesus visited the "coasts" of Tyre and Sidon
and healed a Gentile (Matthew 15:21; Mark 7:24) and from this region many
came forth to hear him preaching (Mark 3:8; Gospel of Luke 6:17, Matthew 11:
21–23). A congregation was founded here soon after the death of Saint
Stephen, and Paul of Tarsus, on his return from his third missionary journey
, spent a week in conversation with the disci... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 24 再看看早期教父们的正确和错误的观点
林慈信：早期教会信仰真伪辨——上帝，圣父，圣子﹕我们的信仰
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01013i7w.html
早期教会信仰真伪辨 THE FAITH OF THE EARLY CHURCH
上帝，圣父，圣子：我们的信仰
GOD, THE FATHER, AND THE SON: WHAT WE BELIEVE
1．上帝：一位格，三位格
GOD: ONE, PERSON, PERSONAL, THREE PERSONS
只有一位真神。宇宙并没有两位神（创造主 + 至高至善神：诺斯底主义）。
There is only one God. There aren’t two gods (creator-demiurge, plus the h
ighest God: Gnosticism).
上帝是位格。上帝不只是祂的属性的总和。
God is a person. God is not just a bunch of attributes.
上帝是有位格的。祂在永恒里计划要创造人，与人建立（约的）关... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1153 | 25 让你久等了。“请教”二字实不敢当，个人拙见而已。
神通过选民的历史使其他人了解神，是否是选民都可以被拯救，有何不平等？
犹太人和埃及人各有占上风的时候，都不会否定神拯救整个人类的意愿。
旧约里，神明确说明要拯救所有人，不只是犹太人。我那个帖子中的经文如果还不够，
这里还有：
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise
up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also
give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto
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发帖数: 616 | 26 转一个股沟来的文章，也不知道说的是不是有理。有懂的给说说就好了。
六、1. 有些人认为雅各书第二章14节与「唯独因信稱义」的教义是互相矛盾的。这是对
雅各书完全错误的解释。
保罗的教导是，我们不能靠着个人的功德作为蒙神悦纳的基础，这样的人靠着死的行为
稱义，是绝对行不通的。稱义真正的基础是基督所成就的工作，是单单地靠着恩典、藉
着信心赐给人的（弗二8）。
雅各的重点是要反对那些自称有信心的人，随意自由地违背神。这等于是滥用神的良善
，成为犯罪的藉口（罗六1）。雅各表示这种态度不符合真正的信心，反而是死信心的一
种表现，正如生出坏果子是整棵树的失败（太七15～20；十二33；路十三6～9）。
这裡的问题是把「稱义」（justification）与「成聖」（sanctification）弄混淆了，
「稱义」与在神的法庭面前蒙悦纳有关，「成聖」则与渐渐除去恶根，和灵命更新为基
督形象的进程有关（林後三17）。二者有所不同，但也绝对分不开，正如神位格不可分
割的教义一样，分开或不加以区别都会成为异端。
-摘自下文。
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发帖数: 5754 | 27
there two verses are consistent
Matthew Henry Commentary
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/henry/mhc5.John.ii.html
5. The manifestation of him to the children of men. It might be objected, If
this eternal Word was all in all thus in the creation of the world, whence
is it that he has been so little taken notice of and regarded? To this he
answers (v. 5), "The light shines, but the darkness comprehends it not."
Observe,
(1.) The discovery of the eternal Word to the lapsed world, even before he
was manife... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 28
有一个人，是从神那里差来的 he was sent from God, he was God's messenger,
玛 拉 基 书 3:1 万 军 之 耶 和 华 说 ， 我 要 差 遣 我 的 使 者 ， 在 我
前 面 预 备 道 路 。 你 们 所 寻 求 的 主 ， 必 忽 然 进 入 他 的 殿 。 立
约 的 使 者 ， 就 是 你 们 所 仰 慕 的 ， 快 要 来 到 。
为要作见证，就是为光作见证 -- he is the watchman in the darkness
"He came to bear witness to the light. Light is a thing which witnesses for
itself, and carries its own evidence along with it; but to those who shut
their eyes against the light it is necessary there should be those that bear
witness to it. C... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2737 | 29 录像
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ElnQUVkWsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8E2UAV_3w4&feature=related
本书的第一部分找不到，找到了再贴。AMAZON有卖这本。
大概是这样:唐.派普牧师是美国几个教会的负责人,有一个温馨的家庭,一个女儿和
一对双胞胎儿子.在一场意外的车祸中确认唐已经死亡90分钟,他跨越生死边界去到了天
堂,(我知道很多人看了都以为有点颠)天堂的美丽与喜乐是如此真实,他看见了先而他去
的亲人们.然后他又回到了人间饱受重度伤残无尽的煎熬,自怜、痛苦、忧郁、灰心。剧
痛使得他无数次祷告上帝让他回天家,因为看见过天堂的人真的不想回来,那里比世界上
的一切都真实.这个剧烈的经历改变了他和所有知道这件事情的人. 让他更加清晰生命
真正的意义所在.
唐·派普自一九八五年起成为一位全职牧师，服务于教会不同部门和事工，其中包括六
年任职为主任牧师。唐和他的妻子伊娃，目前居住在德克萨斯州帕萨蒂那，他们有三个
孩子，现在都已长大成人，并成为无数报刊杂志的新闻人物。唐现在是一份周刊... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 30 对，地球还有柱子和四个角呢，虽然要长练习，不过这个宝耍的可远远比不上钞票上帝
的精彩
Job 9:6
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the
outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR
CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE
EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on
the earth, nor on the sea, n... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 31 对，地球还有柱子和四个角呢，虽然要长练习，不过这个宝耍的可远远比不上钞票上帝
的精彩
Job 9:6
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the
outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR
CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE
EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on
the earth, nor on the sea, n... 阅读全帖 |
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n****e
发帖数: 332 | 32 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说谎与爱心
'Chritian' faith base 于 “神的大能”。这么说是不准确、不负责任的。我们要小
心不要扩大信心的范围绊倒人。
这样基于 “神的大能”的信心大多和拜偶像的信心是一回事。所以7先生、nana女士等
，在此遭到我们这样虚假的信心的陷害，落在在这里这样一个信心漩涡里，经年日久地
打转了。
(1)信心是建立“基督的话”-也就是“神的福音”或者“天国的福音”上面。
可1:14 约翰下监以后，耶稣来到加利利，宣传神的福音，
After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good
news of God.
可1:15 说，日期满了，神的国近了。你们当悔改，信福音。
'The time has come,' he said. 'The kingdom of God is near. Repent and
believe the good news!'
罗10:14 然而人未曾信他，怎能求他呢？未曾听见他，怎能信他呢？没有传道的，怎能
听见呢？
How, then, can they ca... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 33 上帝允许撒旦去做。
ESV study bible:
2 Sam 24:1 Here the text says the Lord . . . incited David, while the
parallel account in 1 Chron. 21:1 reads, “Satan . . . incited David.” God
himself never does evil, but sometimes he uses either Satanic forces or
sinful human beings to accomplish his purposes. For more on how to reconcile
the two accounts, see note on 1 Chron. 21:1; see also notes on Gen. 50:18–
21; 1 Sam. 16:14; Mark 14:21; Acts 2:23.
这不是上帝的命令而是大卫自己要显示自己的军力。而且没有按照上帝的律法办事。
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发帖数: 38403 | 34 怪就怪在Flavius Josephus费了不少笔墨描写Simon of Peraea，Athronges, Menahem
ben Judah, Vespasian,而和作家时间更靠近的耶稣就没啥记录啊，有的那段还是公认
的伪造品
Simon of Peraea
"There was also Simon, who had been a slave of king Herod, but in other
respects a comely person, of a tall and robust body; he was one that was
much superior to others of his order, and had had great things committed to
his care. This man was elevated at the disorderly state of things, and was
so bold as to put a diadem on his head, while a certain number of the p... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 35 我對你最後這段說的有點不同意， 若耶穌確實存在， 他到耶路撒冷的危險是因為
那裡是重點維穩地區， 每年總督在passover 都會過來坐鎮， 彼拉多又是個特別
不在意殺人的總督， 任何人在 passover 講些不太和諧的話都是直接送上十字架的，
新約裡那個猶太人逼迫彼拉多處死耶穌的情節根本不可能發生， 彼拉多哪裡可能
會受這種逼迫？ 這是gentile 寫新約把『弒神』的責任轉嫁給猶太人的詭計。
抛开宗教不谈，把耶稣当作一个常人，按世俗的历史因果分析，耶稣离开自由的加利利
去耶路撒冷，也就意味着走向死路，至少是一条极为危险的路。当然，也是挑战。耶稣
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发帖数: 25615 | 36 誰說新約作者都是猶太人了？
大部份新約學者都相信最早的福音書馬可福音是從來沒到過巴勒斯坦的外邦人寫的，
所以書裡犯了許多地理錯誤， 而路加和馬太是參考馬可寫的。
基督教（天主教）基本上是羅馬化的宗教， 幫gentile 的代表彼拉多洗刷殺耶穌的
罪名一點都不奇怪。 你去研究一下彼拉多生平你就會知道，說他殘酷好殺還可以，
說他軟弱順從暴民就是大笑話了。
至於耶穌，有這人沒有都還是疑問， 你要是把聖經當史實來看的話， 乾脆就說耶穌
是神， 神還有什麼語言不會說的嗎？ 奇蹟啥？
聖經不是可靠的歷史資料。 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 37 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 如何读圣经
这样读很好啊。只是圣经很长，普通人每个几年读不完这么一遍，而且读一遍也不见得
读懂，要反复读才行。所以说study Bible 比较好，因为相当于有解释，读起来更好懂
些。
那很好，很高兴能见到可以代表所有佛教徒的人。
我们信耶稣不怕闹笑话。就像保罗说的，我们不以福音为耻。
Romans 1
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that
brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the
Gentile.
罗马书 1
16 我 不 以 福 音 为 耻 ； 这 福 音 本 是 神 的 大 能 ， 要 救 一 切 相 信
的 ， 先 是 犹 太 人 ， 後 是 希 利 尼 人 。
基督教是有没有文化都能懂的。耶稣让所有信他的人得永生。很简单。跟他一起处死的
犯人，也得了
Luke 23
39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 38 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一点感受 这个叫基本常识，你真的不知道？是不是你教会的人和你说，只有你们新教才算是基督
教的？不“信”wilki的话，韦诗词典怎么样？
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christianity
Definition of CHRISTIANITY
1: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred
scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
Christianity noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Religion stemming from the teachings of Jesus in the 1st century AD. Its
sacred scripture is the Bible, particularly the New Testament. Its principal
tenets are tha... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 39 是啊，我们大声宣布我们的信仰。这在这些反基眼中被视为自大。反基们你们有这样的
信仰么？
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that
brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the
Gentile.
罗马书 1
16 我 不 以 福 音 为 耻 ； 这 福 音 本 是 神 的 大 能 ， 要 救 一 切 相 信
的 ， 先 是 犹 太 人 ， 後 是 希 利 尼 人 。 |
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发帖数: 376 | 40 Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him
a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as
receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews
and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the
suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross,
those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to
them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets ha... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 41 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 地狱的问题都不是重点。
但是因信称义可不只是约3：16这一句支持的。福音说，保罗的书。
整个罗马书很明确的说明信心而不是对法律的履行使人得救。约翰福音写的也是音信称
义。比如耶稣救人，都是那些人信了，病就好了，人就复活了，眼睛就亮了，那些人做
了什么功么？耶稣旁边处死的那个囚犯做了什么工么？
Acts 10:43-45
New International Version (NIV)
43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him
receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all
who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come with Peter
were astonished that the gift of the... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 42 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 James那段我的帖子里已经提到了，几乎所有说信+做功=得救的都引这段。
这段说的是做功的信的外在体现。就是信=得救+做功。
看看耶稣的解释：
Luke 8
47 Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling
and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she
had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48 Then he said to
her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.”
49 While Jesus was still speaking, someone came from the house of Jairus,
the synagogue leader. “Your daughter is dead,” he said. “Don’t bothe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 43 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 地狱的问题都不是重点。
但是因信称义可不只是约3：16这一句支持的。福音说，保罗的书。
整个罗马书很明确的说明信心而不是对法律的履行使人得救。约翰福音写的也是音信称
义。比如耶稣救人，都是那些人信了，病就好了，人就复活了，眼睛就亮了，那些人做
了什么功么？耶稣旁边处死的那个囚犯做了什么工么？
Acts 10:43-45
New International Version (NIV)
43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him
receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all
who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come with Peter
were astonished that the gift of the... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 44 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 James那段我的帖子里已经提到了，几乎所有说信+做功=得救的都引这段。
这段说的是做功的信的外在体现。就是信=得救+做功。
看看耶稣的解释：
Luke 8
47 Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling
and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she
had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48 Then he said to
her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.”
49 While Jesus was still speaking, someone came from the house of Jairus,
the synagogue leader. “Your daughter is dead,” he said. “Don’t bothe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 45 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 你可以看看NET bible的解释：
https://net.bible.org/#!bible/Revelation+7:7
7:4The specific references to Israel and the names of the 12 Israelite
tribes strongly suggest that the nation of Israel is in view rather than the
church.[300] and the Literary Competence of John the Seer,” Journal of the
Evangelical Theological Society 38:2 (June 1995):213-18.
Most posttribulationists and amillennialists believe the 144,000 are members
of “spiritual Israel,” a title of theirs for the church.[301] Gundry
called the... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 46 我的帖子说的是各个基督教教派对church的理解。
我是为了大家讨论方便，不是为了居高临下，指点别人。
在主内的弟兄姐妹，没有高低等级之分，只有分工不同。
1 Corinthians 12
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form
one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit
so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we
were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up
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发帖数: 8775 | 47
我说对这句话的理解是有不同观点的。比如“这个磐石”指的是不是彼得。
还有下一句的解释，你可以看一下ESV study bible的解释：
Matt. 16:18 you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church. This is
one of the most controversial and debated passages in all of Scripture. The
key question concerns Peter’s relationship to “this rock.” For several
reasons, it is best to think that “this rock” refers to Peter himself.
Jesus’ entire pronouncement is directed toward Peter, and the connecting
word “and” most naturally identifies the rock with Peter himsel... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 48 我自己不反对天主教。但是把有其他各种理解的人叫误解者似乎也过于武断。
就连天主教也放弃了天主教外没有救赎的教义。
你可以看一下ESV study bible对这段话的解释：
Matt. 16:18 you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church. This is
one of the most controversial and debated passages in all of Scripture. The
key question concerns Peter’s relationship to “this rock.” For several
reasons, it is best to think that “this rock” refers to Peter himself.
Jesus’ entire pronouncement is directed toward Peter, and the connecting
word “and” most naturally identifies the rock ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2456 | 49 ＃本文由王文質［http://www.douban.com/people/ioannes/］弟兄翻譯完成；此後經細微調整。
St. Peter was bishop of Antioch before ever going to Rome and chose a
successor when he left. So why is the Pope in Rome and not Antioch?
聖伯多祿在前往羅馬並殉道於斯之前曾是安提約基亞的主教，並且在離開時選定了繼承
者。那麼爲什麼教宗是羅馬主教，而非安提約基亞主教？
While it is true that St. Peter was also the first bishop of Antioch, the
idea that Antioch is equal in primacy to Rome is not the Apostolic Tradition
, even the Tradition of the Eastern Church, for several reasons.
儘管聖伯多祿確實也是安提約基亞的第一任... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 50 不谢。
我看到本版的一些所谓的反基，很为他们感到很可惜。看起来他们确实读过圣经，似乎
对某些章节很熟悉，但是他们对圣经的理解仅限于intellectural understanding。由
于不信，他们的理解总是局限句具体的细节（通常是他们所谓的矛盾，或是可以用来批
判基督教的地方，在教堂里，可能是牧师根本不会讲的地方，主要是那些根本不是圣经
所要传达的主要信息），在我看来总有一叶障目不见泰山的感觉。你也看到圣经中讲爱
的章节，耶稣自己讲爱，约翰，保罗，都讲爱，讲的非常好，但是你可以看到他们天天
争论的都是些什么内容。
我真的希望你不光能理解圣经的内容，也能感受圣经。感受到上帝对人的爱，基督徒之
间的爱，耶稣给信徒的真正自由的生活是什么样的。我认为最好的方式就是去一个比较
好的教会，去接触这些人。但是你也要意识到人不是完美的，不是你碰到的所有基督徒
都会让你舒服。但是上帝对人的爱是真实的。
基督徒不是因为熟读圣经才被称为基督徒，你可以看到acts中，很多人都是听到了福音
，并相信了圣灵就降临到他们的身上。
Acts 10
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