M**d
发帖数: 4418 | 1 不过这个事情很久了，如果有标准答案，应该早有了啊 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 4 你提这个东西, 布什前总统又要伤心了. 你想想啊, 这些罪犯都是要杀死美国人的恐怖
分子, 可是美国非有一些讲普世的老将天天拿这个东西出来戳白宫, 要人权, 要公正,
连这个监狱用了什么刑罚, 犯人们平时受什么限制,都要关心.这让政府怎么工作啊. |
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M**d
发帖数: 4418 | 5 咦，奇了怪了，你这话怎么一副小将的强调啊？
呵呵，莫非你要跟abcd2046赛跑看谁先到小将阵营？
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 6 那是你一直的误会,
(1) 好像我们这些天天说中国政府不是的人, 见了美国政府就膜拜.错误, 我们对任何
政府都会挑错.
(2) 好像中国政府的人都是恶棍,而美国政府的人都是君子.错误,政府都是一样的.. |
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M**d
发帖数: 4418 | 7 wondermen, 不错，有进步啊。你对piyaoke和benchmark怎么看？ |
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t**********4
发帖数: 552 | 8 五毛怎么看待城管啊？怎么看待宣传毛泽东思想被判刑啊？ |
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c*******l
发帖数: 7820 | 9 你前一段时间老实过一会儿，开来FBI给你的警告还是有效。怎么现在药效过了？又开
始胡噙。
关塔纳莫湾监狱是美国领土吗？如果不是美国领土美国的司法原则在那里有效吗？ |
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M**d
发帖数: 4418 | 10 如果FBI来找过我，我还敢来吗？大家不要抬举我的胆量。事实是，汉奸老将卑鄙无耻
到狐假虎威利用FBI来恐吓小将。我跟大家说，我从来没有被FBI联系过。
coldsteel是不是一个可以和piyaoke和benchmark比贱的汉奸老将？ |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 11 那也是你一直的误会，我从来就是这两个看法。请让我展开说说：
(1) 好像我们这些天天说中国政府不是的人, 见了美国政府就膜拜.错误, 我们对任何
政府都会挑错. |
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c*******l
发帖数: 7820 | 12 你小子基本是落水惜命，获救惜财。
你不要相信有事可以往大使馆跑的话，那是骗你的。什么“大使馆是中国领土，跑进去就没事了。”都是糊弄肉鸡的。 |
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C********g
发帖数: 9656 | 13 对践踏人权的东突，不该讲人权。
这才是公正和普世价值的具体体现。
共产党准备替东突讨还人权？ |
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b**********n
发帖数: 2812 | 14 I am an American who has lived in China for the past 9 years. People who
complain about this country do not understand China. Yes, there are some
human rights issues, but the law is the law. Chinese law says you do not and
cannot subvert the government. If you do, you will be punished. Obey the
law and China is a wonderful place to live. I love what America USED TO
stand for. Freedom. But are Americans free? I think not! If you drink a beer
on your front porch in the USA you can be arrested for ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5125 | 15 一个在中国住了9年的美国人如此评论中美人权：
来源: 鑫诺2 于 2011-04-12 11:59:42 [档案] [博客] 旧帖] [转至博客] [给我悄悄
话] 本文已被阅读：666次 字体：调大/调小/重置 | 加入书签 | 打印 | 所有跟帖 |
加跟贴 | 查看当前最热讨论主题 回答: 其实也不是美国人多么有觉悟说出了这些, 是
日子越来越不好过了. 所以, 由 TibetanYak 于 2011-04-12 11:55:14
I am an American who has lived in China for the past 9 years. People who
complain about this country do not understand China. Yes, there are some
human rights issues, but the law is the law. Chinese law says you do not and
cannot subvert the government. If you do, you will be pu... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 16 1）Guantanamo Bay 的一个基地囚犯供出Osama bin Laden的贴身信使
2）CIA追查该信使数年，于去年8月发现其行踪
3）跟随该信使至Osama藏身处
后面的事情，就是调查取证，验明正身了。。。 |
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d******i
发帖数: 1379 | 17 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_hunt_for_bin_laden
Phone call by Kuwaiti courier led to bin Laden
By ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press – Tue May 3, 7:57 am ET
WASHINGTON – When one of Osama bin Laden's most trusted aides picked up the
phone last year, he unknowingly led U.S. pursuers to the doorstep of his
boss, the world's most wanted terrorist.
That monitored phone call, recounted Monday by a U.S. official, ended a
years-long search for bin Laden's personal courier, the ke... 阅读全帖 |
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t**o
发帖数: 840 | 18 谁爱宣传谁宣传。
什么叫什么年代。间隔几十年你以为中国人民的思想就赶超英美了？
guantanamo对付外敌。。。you have no idea.
再说了，刘晓波受虐了吗？他有吃发霉的饭菜睡潮湿的石头吗？
你们不知道重庆歌乐山脚下有一个地方叫烈士墓，里面埋的人是怎么死的。
刘晓波死了吗？
政治斗争，你永远也弄不明白。
你以为换一拨人就搞定了？没这么简单。
凡事不喜欢负责任，总喜欢责怪他人。自己好吃懒坐还怪政府福利不好。欺软怕硬。死
要面子。自己
的事儿不好好干专门围观他人吐口水。看见有人需要帮助却冷漠走开生怕惹上麻烦。遇
到事情不冷静
思考不仔细调查，大家怎么说就跟着怎么说，生怕成了异类。这些事儿，我不认为是共
产党教育的结
果。只能说一个政府一个党，在短期内也想不出什么好主意来改变民众的思想。
经济决定上层建筑。还是好好闷声发大财吧。 |
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发帖数: 364 | 19 it is true.
Hans-Peter Richter 2007, August
(German Peace Council)
Foreign Military Bases in Germany
Today there are 72 locations in Germany used by the US military Forces and
about 68,000 soldiers. The British Forces use 5 locations and have 25,000
soldiers in Germany. In the summer of this year about 8,500 soldiers will be
withdrawn from Germany and three basses will be given up. All this soldiers
have their home base in Germany. At no time all this soldiers are in
Germany, because always some... 阅读全帖 |
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h****o
发帖数: 2455 | 20 没仔细看视频，不过这个人一贯的观点是他称为的大国的“悲剧”就是必然要发生冲突
。我估计他的观点是中国和美国一定会发生冲突。但是这个观点得不出“美国必须摧毁
中国”的标题。美国在历史上没有摧毁越南，现在也摧毁不了塔利班。更别提摧毁拥有
核武器的中国了。即使是恐怖份子，美国也无法摧毁，而且会带来巨大的损失，更别提
对一个核国家采取单边主义或丛林规则了。所以即使他说的是对的，但是我认为这个冲
突是有底限的，很难以一方被摧毁结束的。不仅因为胜利者会付出难以接受的代价，而
且时代发展和道德标准也不允许采用对付印第安人的方式对付竞争者了，否则美国也不
会要关闭guantanamo了。 |
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R*******N
发帖数: 7494 | 21 呵呵，欢迎肛抽贱人每天举报我10次。不举报我操死丫全家。
【 以下文字转载自 board 讨论区 】
发信人: SteelDragon (金箍如意), 信区: board
标 题: Re: 申请菌斑版主
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 2 11:15:27 2012, 美东)
If you collaborate with Taliban again, I will report you again. You will
enjoy your rest of life in Guantanamo |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 22 美国已经在法西斯国家的边缘了 2012-02-20 12:42:28
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/02/20/silencing-the-critic
Silencing The Critics
by Paul Craig Roberts, 20 February 2012
In 2010 the FBI invaded the homes of peace activists in several states and
seized personal possessions in what the FBI–the lead orchestrator of fake
“terrorist plots”–called an investigation of “activities concerning the
material support of terrorism.”
Subpoenas were issued to compel antiwar protestors to testify before grand
juries as ... 阅读全帖 |
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H****g
发帖数: 14447 | 23 你说的跟我的不矛盾吧。你看楼上那位肥猫，（是不是还有你自己），不正是将马克思
主义贬低的一无是处，说是伪科学，说成是过时的，说成是被批判的体无完肤的。这恰
恰就是福柯所揭示的权力和知识的关系啊。
也就是说，在权力的知识体系里，凡是威胁自己统治的，都一律成了”非科学“。比如
说，中医不是科学，气功不是科学，马克思不是科学，中国文化不是科学，毛泽东的阶
级斗争理论也不是科学。对不对？
福柯呢，通过精神病的研究，说出”人类已死“，也就是说明，权力可以定义什么是人
，什么是非人。比如说，将精神病人当成一种非人。比如说，美国反恐，就把那些”恐
怖份子“关到Guantanamo，这些犯人呢，既不是战犯，也不是普通犯人，在法律上呢，
就成了”非人“。也就是阿甘本那本书 说的罗马贱民，Homo Sacer。
而这些，其实都是在讲述权力如何对待反抗／异类／革命的。任何威胁到权力的科学／
知识，甚至是人，都会被边缘化，妖魔化，或者让你存在，但是将你与公众隔离。福柯
的一生，始终都是在反抗这种主流，他甚至拒绝任何定义，拒绝任何学术界加给自己的
标签，拒绝所谓正常人的生活，而去追求完全不主流甚至非法的体验——... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 24
Too light. Should use US's guantanamo camp example, hold them indefinitely
until they divulge all useful information. |
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t*****o
发帖数: 81 | 25 OK. I thought MDW is the acronym for Mass Destruction Weapons, which is more
commonly known as Weapons of Mass Destruction. My bad on this.
Factual news is if there is no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to 9/11, then
you can't just speculate he was aiding al-Qaeda.
Factual news is if Obama has released his long form birth certificate to
prove he was born in Hawaii, then all the birthers need to stop crying foul.
Factual news if you say abortion is well over 90 percent of what Planned
Parenthood ... 阅读全帖 |
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W*******n
发帖数: 4140 | 26 Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖 |
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m********6
发帖数: 1283 | 27 看着关塔那摩(Guantanamo),美帝笑了. |
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m********6
发帖数: 1283 | 28 看着关塔那摩(Guantanamo),美帝笑了. |
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T******n
发帖数: 2612 | 31 美国打下阿富汗后，抓了不少新疆维族塔利班，大部分就地放了。
最后抓到Guantanamo的还被释放到第三国（阿尔巴尼亚，斐济...).
并没有放到美国本土。
白匪是十分精明的，对中国投毒，自己保护的好。 |
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d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 32 国际红十字实际上只是个委员会
Present in East Asia – China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (
DPRK), the Republic of Korea (ROK) and Mongolia – since 1987, the ICRC
moved its regional delegation to Beijing in 2005. The delegation promotes
IHL; fosters support for ICRC activities in the region and worldwide;
supports National Societies; and helps meet the need for prostheses.
东北亚总部在北京
The Washington regional delegation covers the United States and Canada,
promoting IHL, facilitating ICRC operations wo... 阅读全帖 |
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t***h
发帖数: 5601 | 33 12.43pm ET
Final question from Glenn Greenwald:
Anything else you'd like to add?
Answer:
Thanks to everyone for their support, and remember that just because you
are not the target of a surveillance program does not make it okay. The US
Person / foreigner distinction is not a reasonable substitute for
individualized suspicion, and is only applied to improve support for the
program. This is the precise reason that NSA provides Congress with a
special immunity to its surveillance.
12.41pm ET
Q... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********m
发帖数: 16971 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: lovefreedom (古板潜水员), 信区: Stock
标 题: 美国参议员麦凯恩唿吁占领香港，解决美国秘密监听问题被泄露一事
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 24 18:56:40 2013, 美东)
美国参议员麦凯恩唿吁占领香港，解决美国秘密监听问题被泄露一事。
In an interview with BBC World News, the hawkish Republican said that by
hosting the leaker, Edward Snowden, Hong Kong has proven itself to be an
enemy of the United States.
在于BBC世界新闻节目的一次的访谈中，这位鹰派共和人谈到，既然香港对于爱德
华·斯诺登这位泄密者提供了庇护，那么香港就已经证明它是美国的敌人。
"Either you're with us or you're against us," McCain explained to anchor
Freddie ... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********6
发帖数: 3408 | 35 跑克鲁格曼的博客上瞧了瞧。最近他写了几则关于中国的博客，比如这《奥威尔，中国
和我》：
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/orwell-china-and-me
后面的评论有不少有意思的，比如这两条：
es
nh
Cool quote. Kind of reminds me of the American justification for its
military behavior. Drones, Guantanamo etc. Except, where's the achievement?
July 21, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
Recommended1
ed connor
camp springs, md
You have to love Orwell, both for his political criticism and his clear
writing.
My favorite was in "Down and Out in Paris and Lo... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 37 SL Kuala Lumpur
"I guess the Chinese can learn from the Americans and send over 100 000
reporters over to the US and encourage the minorities/ dispossessed and poor
to revolt, encourage insurrection, forment dissent and provide financial
and even military support to these groups covertly.
But luckily for the US, the Chinese do not interfere in American domestic
policy and respect their sovereignty.
Imagine if Chinese war ships sailed in international waters a 100 km from
the US coast, disrespect... 阅读全帖 |
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w**********5
发帖数: 1741 | 38 Has anyone know why the West particularly the US did not come out and
condemn what happen is a terrorist attack? Even this news would not say it
is a terrorist attack but rather put it in quote and not a version they
would endorse. Even news of the UN Secretary General condemning the
terrorist attack was completely written out by all the major western news
outlet including the BBC and CNN.
US based seperatist group "World Uighur Congress" headed by Rabiya Kadeer
and Afhanistan based terrorr grou... 阅读全帖 |
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g******o
发帖数: 4042 | 40 其实海外基地没有想象的多
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bas
By state/district[edit]
US state abbrev map.png
About this image
Base
Joint[edit]
The Pentagon
Joint overseas[edit]
Pine Gap Joint Defence Space Research Facility, Alice Springs, Northern
Territory, Australia—used by United States armed forces, and CIA, in
partnership with the Australian Defence Force and the Australian
intelligence services.
War Reserve Stocks are located in many nations.
United States Army[edit]
Main ... 阅读全帖 |
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C*I
发帖数: 4736 | 41 a gryffyne 1 hour ago
Maybe we could hire the Chinese to guard Guantanamo? |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 42
hoho. If US government were learning from TG, 80% of the detainee in
Guantanamo would have been invited to white house tea party for a discussion
about what US government have done wrong in the middle east. |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 43 Brian NYC 13 hours ago
There are degrees of exceptionalism and Chinese and American notions are
entirely different in both theory and practice. Cohen’s attempts to draw
parallels between the two, therefore, miss the mark. American exceptionalism
unmentioned in polite company includes genocide (Native Americans), slavery
, torture (Guantanamo), xenophobia (Chinese exclusion laws) predatory
capitalism (2008 global crash). No such parallel can be found in Chinese
history of the past 238 years.
Sinc... 阅读全帖 |
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e****n
发帖数: 2022 | 44 第一，不同于伪军汉奸，老将在美国吃美国的用美国的，特技是舔美，属于非高科技服
务行业，占用的全是美国的资源，加速美国堕落。
第二，老将只能过过嘴瘾骂骂中国，中国不会掉块肉，没损失。
第三，老将可以麻痹美国。让美国人民觉得中国都是丧家之犬给点狗粮就能做汉奸卖国
贼。让美国人低估中国，掩护中国崛起。
第四，老将天天舔老美，帮小将降低仇恨，让小将可以少受打击报复。失业的老美刚想
说中国人抢我工作滚出去，老将立马上去一舔，老美一舒服就忘记这事了。
第五，真要到了老将危害国家的地步，派点间谍冒充老将，美国为了抓间谍自己就把老
将一网打尽，关进Guantanamo了。要清理老将很容易。都不用自己动手。
综上，老将是宝，不要虐待！ |
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l******o
发帖数: 8344 | 45 Yes，美国就是个移民国家，它欢迎你来，但是来了就别踩，不爱呆就走。我特讨厌一
边吃美国的一边骂的人。不信你去中国看看，如果一个外国人在中国，把中国骂成一堆
狗屎，还在中国领奖学金读书或者拿福利，中国人打死这种外贼都算白打死，大家叫好。
很多小将一边狂踩美国，一边来了美国就不走，生怕被美国拒签了（这个问题以后10年
签证是不是不存在了），老娘跟你们说，老娘来美国，每年都回国，从来不怕签证签不
出来，签不出来就不来了，不稀奇。
不但中国没有损失，靠，老娘起码养着自己爹娘，亲戚穷的也有接济
国贼。让美国人低估中国，掩护中国崛起。
小将在那边被党操的高潮迭起，老将却比较关注祖国民生问题。小将关注GDP总额，老
将关注GDP人均。老将希望中国崛起，民主，不是现在这样党倒是崛起了，屁民该干嘛
还干嘛，老娘毕业时候，工资人名币3000/月，房子2000/平方，现在房子20000/平方，
工资依然是3000/月， 操tmd,不是靠专制，民早就翻了，能甘心这么被剥削？
想说中国人抢我工作滚出去，老将立马上去一舔，老美一舒服就忘记这事了。
是啊，小将就是这样，一边仇美，一边在美国死活不走，这就是我唯一鄙... 阅读全帖 |
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e****n
发帖数: 2022 | 46 关心老将是应该的：
第一，不同于伪军汉奸，老将在美国吃美国的用美国的，特技是舔美，属于非高科技服
务行业，占用的全是美国的资源，加速美国堕落。
第二，老将只能过过嘴瘾骂骂中国，中国不会掉块肉，没损失。
第三，老将可以麻痹美国。让美国人民觉得中国都是丧家之犬给点狗粮就能做汉奸卖国
贼。让美国人低估中国，掩护中国崛起。
第四，老将天天舔老美，帮小将降低仇恨，让小将可以少受打击报复。失业的老美刚想
说中国人抢我工作滚出去，老将立马上去一舔，老美一舒服就忘记这事了。
第五，真要到了老将危害国家的地步，派点间谍冒充老将，美国为了抓间谍自己就把老
将一网打尽，关进Guantanamo了。要清理老将很容易。都不用自己动手。
综上，老将是宝，不要虐待！ |
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m********5
发帖数: 17667 | 48 国安应该自己当蛇头，凡是放出境的全部记录在案，国内身份全部加红
国安当蛇头优势巨大，很快就垄断维族偷渡业，以后什么人跑到国外做恐怖培训，国外
有什么下线上线全部一清二楚，还能赚点国外NGO的外快。
以后这些人一旦想入境，就按照国外恐怖分子处理
阻止出境，他们一样在大陆搞袭击不是？
即使是美国人，你如果通过偷渡出境，美国海关和coast guard也可以直接把你击毙或
者抓起来关到Guantanamo。 不要说这种在中国偷渡连护照都没有，回来的时候很可能
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发帖数: 38600 | 49 Here's the real reasons the system is being questioned: because it seems to
have been perverted by the elites, and now serves mostly their interests
instead of those of the people under their care.
The United States lost its credibility not in the "War on Terror", but in
Iraq, at Abu Ghraib, Haditha and Guantanamo. It lost what was left of its
credibility when GHB, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest were not tried for these
crimes when they left office in disgrace, and the drone strikes continued.
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 50 Text of Barack Obama Nobel Prize acceptance lecture
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/barack-obama
Barack Obama Nobel Prize Acceptance Text, as prepared for delivery and
provided by the White House
"A Just and Lasting Peace"
Your Majesties, Your Royal Highnesses, Distinguished Members of the
Norwegian Nobel Committee, citizens of America, and citizens of the world:
I receive this honor with deep gratitude and great humility. It is an award
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