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发帖数: 293 | 1 我觉得他说的是look at me (in the pensieve), 因为他还欠dd的一个对harry 的解释
。不然harry 怎么知道去看他啊。
不过也许把血啊什么的给harry就是这个意思了，前面怎么讲的pensieve我忘了，也许
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发帖数: 293 | 3 i just checked back - not necessarily; previouly, wizards used wands to
extract a strand of thing from their forehead. that's how others see their
past. it is not so obvious that whatever oust out of Snape can definitely
be checked for his memory.
i still think by 'look at me' Snape may not necessarily mean the physical/
let me see lily way, it could be interpreted as 'look at my life and judge
for yourself'. That also explains the next chapter's title (the prince's
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发帖数: 15480 | 4 也许都可以解释，但是俺不觉得这是trivial thing. :)
记忆对于harry, snape, hermione来说是很普通的东西，不需要解释。另外，临死前看
一眼harry／lily的眼睛也表示了snape的最后一个愿望。他一直要隐瞒这件事情，不让
别人知道，别人怎么judge，其实对他也没有什么关系。但是临死的时候，有的东西就
隐藏不了了。所以俺觉得其实这一句话，在这本书中的分量还是很重的。 |
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发帖数: 293 | 5 en, 我只是提出一种不同的理解。从语言的角度来讲，两个意思都有可能。我刚才问了
我一个native speaker 朋友，她的理解和我一样，不过她也不能完全否定另外一种解
释的可能。trivial是说，相对于全书的理解，对这句的理解不影响整体。=） |
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发帖数: 641 | 6 This is not a trivial detail, and a native speaker who doesn't read the book
carefully could also make mistakes just like us.
After "Look at me", the book emphasized the detail that says "black to blue
eyes", indicating Snape was indeed trying to look at Lily's eyes when he was
dying. |
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发帖数: 24 | 7 我有一个问题,既然dumb拿的是不败的wand,那么第五集的最后,他怎么没有轻松搞定tom
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发帖数: 106 | 8 虽然知道很牵强，因为后面就跟着说绿眼睛要对上黑眼睛snape才肯死，但拿来自欺欺
人足够了 lol |
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发帖数: 15480 | 9 hehe.是呀，同样的书，每个人都有不同的理解。按照自己喜欢的就可以了。 |
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发帖数: 15480 | 10 wand只是强大，但是不是不败的。不然校长也不可能打败那个小偷了。
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发帖数: 24 | 12 You mean Dumbodore can beat and kill tomriddle at that moment but he choosed
not to? I still do not understand, at least he can weaken tom riddle so
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发帖数: 24 | 13 It is supposed to be unbeatable.
However, its power lies in the carrier's spell only.
Which means, when both sides cast a spell, the unbeatable wand carrier wins.
But if the carrier does not cast a spell while the opposite does, it can
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发帖数: 436 | 14 也要看owner的状态吧
LV用的是Dark Art，老邓不用。这本来就被动了一层。
特别是用那个杀人绿光的时候，要够mean才行。
LV当时比老邓mean多了，自然处点上风。
就像Bell能干掉Tonks，但被更mean的Molly秒杀一样。Tonks是Order的人，Molly只是
一个家庭主妇，但是当时大怒中，魔法功力自然大涨。
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发帖数: 293 | 15 of course she's read the book. she's read 1-6 too if u want to know.
i think the book just mentioned the eyes met. maybe you are right. maybe u
can ask some HP fans who are native speakers too to see what they think.
book
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发帖数: 15480 | 16 还是有可能战胜的，不过可能也不那么容易。
但是如果当时杀掉tom，harry可能当时就要死掉了。校长还是要担心这件事情。
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发帖数: 72 | 18 有一点细节没有看懂，这几天没日没夜赶着看完，没有精力回去考古了，看大家在讨论
，顺便就问问各位吧。
Voldemort临死前拿的Wand是不是Elder Wand? 照HP的描述，似乎他手里拿的Dacro
Malfoy的hawthorn wand才是真正的？那Dacro Malfoy什么时候把Elder Wand拿到手的
呢？最后Voldermort拿的又是什么呢？
哪位给仔细解释一下？ |
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发帖数: 15480 | 19 是elder wand.malfoy拿着他自己的wand,但是因为他曾经“打败”校长，所以实际上他
是elder wand的真正主人，只是他手里没有拿着那个elder wand. |
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发帖数: 72 | 20 哦，原来这样。Dacro Malfoy什么时候打败过Dumblerdore? |
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发帖数: 74 | 21
好像是第六本里面，最后Dumbledore很弱，在学校高塔上被Malfoy把wand抢走了。
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发帖数: 170 | 22 答疑：
1. "look at me" means "look at me"，not "look into my memory". Snape wanted
to see the green eyes. Lily was the theme of Snape's life, from the
beginning to his death.
2. Molly也是order的人，fred的死刺激了当妈的，又看到bellatrix对ginny下杀手，
所以怒了，杀人绿光不是要够mean才行，而是要"mean it".
3. Voldemort拿的就是Elder Wand，但是在6里面，draco解除Dumbodore的武装的时候
，Elder Wand 从 Dumbodore手中脱手的时候就已经选择了draco作它的主人，尽管
draco从来没有拿到过Elder Wand。而harry在draco家制服了draco并抢过了他手中的
wand, 所以他就连带着成了Elder Wand的新主人。Elder Wand遥知它的旧主人已经被
overpowered, 就从了harry乐。
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发帖数: 2366 | 23 最后一个，虽然杀不死，象上次那样让他消失个十几年，不也挺好？再回来也老了。好
人的新生力量也壮大了。
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发帖数: 2366 | 24 校长打败小偷也是间接的。因为小偷的魔杖是偷来的，所有权还在原来主人那里。校长
去把他打败了，然后再回来用和harry一样的方法战胜了小偷。 |
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发帖数: 2366 | 25 这些烂好人打仗都不用死招，而且voldemort本身法力无边加上招招致敌死地。可能是
原因。 |
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发帖数: 170 | 26 可是，消失了就没有人知道他去哪儿了，不还是心腹大患？最好是在他自认为有恃无恐
的时候，消灭掉他所有的备份，然后一了百了的做了他。 |
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发帖数: 2366 | 27 那消失的时候不能一个一个找魂器消灭吗？回来也无所遁形。再回来反正得喝上次干掉
自己的人的血。只要让校长老死不就行了 |
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发帖数: 170 | 29 好像6里面说的正确顺序就是先杀horcrux，然后杀他才行。至于为什么非这样得问作者
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发帖数: 166 | 30 HP说draco是wand主人的原因是dumb临死前被draco打倒了，但是draco没拿走wand，
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发帖数: 1 | 31 想问一下harry potter和Voldemort到底什么关系啊？ |
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发帖数: 74 | 32 大家说说Voldemort可以进入HP的脑子看他在想什么吗？貌似第五本是V有本事force
Harry进入V的脑子，Snape还得教HP那个O什么术，去尽力割断这种connection。第七本
后来HP可以收放自如了。可是是不是Voldemort从来没看过HP的思维? 不然的话，
Voldemort在攻击Hogwarts之前就应该知道好几个Horcruxes都毁了。
还有，不知道是不是我看的不仔细，到底Voldemort知道不知道HP是第七个Horcrux? 知
道的话Voldemort还要想杀HP？ |
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发帖数: 641 | 34 Well, my English is good enough to figure out this simple little thing, and
I'm confident with my logical judgement ability. :) |
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发帖数: 4595 | 35 两人的祖先是兄弟。用咱们中国人的说法，“同宗不同支”？ |
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发帖数: 26 | 36 Volemore's soul is not a whole piece anymore, and Harry's is pure and a
whole piece. So in book 5, when Voldemore try to enter Harry's head and
control him, he was in extremely pain. And he will not do it anymore,
mentioned somewhere in book 6 or 7.
No, He did not know it, otherwise, he won't try to kill Harry. Because when
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发帖数: 1813 | 37 每天只有晚上睡觉前的一点时间能看书，所以断断续续的加上两个周末才把HP7看完。
看完之后，心里有点说不出的感觉，空荡荡的。第一本HP 1997年在英国出版，但现在
正好10个年头。我开始看sorcerer's stone的时候大约是在2001年左右，到现在也有6
年的时间了，想想时间过的也真是够快的。
总的来说，我觉得deathly hallows还是不错的。该交代的基本都交代了，虽然有人可
能会觉得大团圆的结局有点俗，但这毕竟是一个半童话故事，非要搞成生死离别的也不
见得是好事。刚才看了看大家的评论，有些人觉得前半部逃亡的章节有些拖拉，我到没
太觉得。一个一个holocrux找起来毕竟不是一件简单的事，能处理成现在的这个样子，
已经很不错了，同时也起到了铺垫的作用。尤其是从hp决定回hogwarts开始，全书的高
潮正式到来，这最后的150多页可以说是高潮层层迭起，扣人心弦，最终顶峰出现在hp
和voldemort之间的决斗。可能有些人会觉得这个决斗有点太简单了，一个curse就结束
了。但我觉得却有点古龙的味道，两人在决斗前唧唧歪歪，把该说的话都说好了，该铺
垫的都铺垫了，但决斗开 |
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发帖数: 1813 | 38 补充一点，第七本一个有点让人失望的地方就是snape挂的太突然了。deathly hallows
还没出来的时候，收到过一些宣传品，其中一个书签就大大的写着，Is Snape Good or
Evil? 显然snape的identify是这本书的一个关键。虽然大多数人可能都会觉得snape
肯定是好人，否则Dumbledore的运筹帷幄的形象就显得更加暗淡了，但这多少还是一个
悬念，而且大家都热烈期望着snape在关键时刻会起到扭转战局的作用。但一下子就让
voldemort给报销了，都没来得及搞什么sabotage，有点让人觉得挺突然。 |
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发帖数: 83 | 40 http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/10/20/harry.potter.ap/index.html
NEW YORK (AP) -- Harry Potter fans, the rumors are true: Albus Dumbledore,
master wizard and Headmaster of Hogwarts, is gay.
J.K. Rowling, author of the mega-selling fantasy series that ended last
summer, outed the beloved character Friday night while appearing before a
full house at Carnegie Hall. After reading briefly from the final book, "
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," she took questions from audience
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发帖数: 278 | 41 CHAPTER 23
Reprogramming
We have not followed cunningly devised fables.
but were eyewitnesses.
- II Peter 1:16
Look and remember. Look upon this sky;
Look deep and deep into the sea-clean air,
The unconfined, the terminus of prayer.
Speak now and speak into the hallowed dome.
What do you hear? What does the sky reply?
The heavens are taken; this is not your home.
- Karl Jay Shapiro
Travelogue for Exiles
the telephone lines had been repaired, the roads plowed
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发帖数: 141625 | 44 上周去听莎学讲座，前一晚临时补习被称为莎士比亚最出色的历史剧《亨利四世》，翻
开第一页：
“So shaken as we are, so wan with care,
Find we a time for frighted peace to pant,
And breathe short-winded accents of new broils
To be commenced in strands afar remote.”
一边查字典，一边仍不甚了了。于是重施大学时的故伎，从网上找来一个中译本，中英
对照读得省力。中译本的第一句让我眼前一亮：
“在这风雨飘摇、国家多故的时候，我们惊魂初定，喘息未复，又要用我们断续的语音
，宣告在辽远的海外行将开始新的争战。”
开首连用四个成语，似比英文更提升语言的雅丽；对我这样的中文母语者来说，中文勾
勒出的战争背景、地理环境也更清晰（惭愧，是我英语不好！）。再往下看：
“我们决不让我们的国土用她自己子女的血涂染她的嘴唇；我们决不让战壕毁坏她的田
野，决不让战马的铁蹄蹂躏她的花草。那些像扰乱天庭的流星般的敌对的眼睛，本来都
是同种同源，虽然最近曾经... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 644 | 45 哈哈，万圣节本来就是基督教节日。不想扮鬼的可以纪念圣人。Hallow是圣人的意思，
e'en是even的缩写，合起来是Eve of 'All Saints' Day'，就是11月1号All Saints
Day的前夜。 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 46 我猜這中文版應該是英文版翻過來的，這裡是英文對照, 左邊是主禱文， 右邊是埃及
禱文
The Lord's Prayer AND the Maxims of Ani
Our Father, which art in heaven - The God of this Earth is the ruler of the
horizon
Hallowed be Thy Name - Th god is for making great his name. Devote yourself
to the adoration of his name
Thy kingdom come - Give your god existence
Thy will be done - He will do thy business
In earth, as it is in heaven - His likeness is upon the Earth
Give us this day our daily bread - God is given incense and food offerings
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发帖数: 1301 | 47 May someday all Chinese people sing this same song, and pray this same
prayer on this day...
--In memory of 64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_MceRvh2U
The lyrics:
Our Father
Which art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name...
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on earth
As it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those who trespass against us
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil
For thine is the kingdom
And the power
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发帖数: 3781 | 49 "Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil."
God
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发帖数: 5754 | 50
THE LORD'S PRAYER
Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and
forgive us our trespasses,as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,but deliver us from evil.
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