S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 1 .308半自动通常很重, 无论是AR10还是其他platform, 加上镜子都十多磅, 只适合
靶场。 除非你上SCAR 17S或者自己组装个light weight AR10, 16" fluted barrel,
carbon fiber handguard... 打猎建议还是light weight bolt action, 便宜, 精度
高, 轻便。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 2 只要前边barrel和handguard轻 就好办。 我正在攒一个轻AR, 弄好了你试试。 |
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b*****e 发帖数: 5133 | 4 他的Magpul MOE handguard,顶上加了导轨会是啥样不好说,也不牢。
最关键的是人家说了不喜欢,再说FSB也不好拆。 |
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f****a 发帖数: 4708 | 5 除了handguard, BCG,还缺charging handle和rear sight
upper了? |
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d**e 发帖数: 1124 | 6 在MOE的都没货。下决心干催买个好的。free float是不是对枪管的影响小,而且mount
附件更方便?看了一圈一般在80-200刀之间。请各位推荐个性价比比较高的。YHM的吗
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T*R 发帖数: 25894 | 11 感觉free float AR基本上是扯蛋吧。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 13 玩了几个月觉得我那个14.5寸的还是短点,有点不爽,就便宜卖了,反正当时买的时候
也打10%折来的,不亏多少。自己简单考虑了一下,我想要的还是16寸Middy CHF
barrel, Gov Profile, Free Float Hanguard(这价位得有了)。
其他的像带不带A2 fixed front sight, muzzle device是AAC还是birdcage就无所谓,
可以将来慢慢调整。反正5.56的后坐力没brake也成,我将来更没钱装消音器。
Noveske的管子较好,其Vltor MUR upper和CH都不错,于是就看Noveske,全都1200+,
加上老婆给的预算,就算再托有Militarry ID的人代买,好像也不够,于是看了看论坛二
手,卖相好打得少的基本出来就被买走了,而且这价位买个二手有点小冤。
于是改变方针,开始看DD V7 upper Gov Profile $770,
http://www.thegunsandgearstore.com/ddm4-nato-inch-barrel-profil
handguard-sights-p-3036... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 14 前边有枪管 handguard 消炎器 前准星 gas block 所以怎么着也不会太轻。
前边太重,在立姿瞄准小/远目标时更容易疲劳,目标转换也没那么快速灵活。
所以前边别挂太多东西,比如挂个榴弹发射器,或者多出一个大活塞,就好。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 15 需要一个11或者12寸长的FF handguard
要求一:
握着要舒服
要求二:
锁定要结实
二选一: Rainier/Samson Evo Rail 或者 Troy Alpha Rail
Troy Alpha改进了拧螺丝的位置,Samson Evo看上去更好。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 16
这玩艺太贵,我一个BCM upper才79,加上CA枪管和170左右的handguard刚顶上一个
Mega钱。 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 17 Accuracy is comparable to a saiga i heard.
I've been talking about DPMS so much lately I think I should become their
salesman.
the LR308L upper runs for 1k or so. Didn't bother to find the best deal,
just an example.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/191907/dpms-lr-308-light-hunte
top-upper-assembly-308-winchester-1-in-10-twist-18-light-contour-barrel-
stainless-steel-black-with-carbon-fiber-free-float-handguard-muzzle-brake
Put it on a fulton or CMMG lower, those are CA compliant brands. then
it... 阅读全帖 |
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c******k 发帖数: 237 | 19 赞! 比俺的第一把帅多罗。。。
果买个combo的将来换free float handguard时候下barrel nut也好用: |
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c*****r 发帖数: 494 | 20 先是在枪展上看到,看中两只AR15。
一支就是这支Bushmaster的16寸,轻便小巧,作为近距离突击步枪是再合适不过了;
唯一不足的就是前瞄太高,不好装镜子;另外枪管前部挖了一块作为grenade launcher
用的,我又不会买榴弹发射器,要这个有什么用?并且好端端的管子挖薄了一圈心理
难受。再有就是没有sling stud,无法装两脚架。
另外一只是DPMS 的重管子,free float枪管,也是16寸的,因为是打精度的所以不带
铁瞄。但是有前Rail,可以自己装一个折叠式前瞄。
本来是很想买那支重管的,因为精度很高,后来想来想去感觉到突击步枪的作用并不是
用来打精度,还是便携性能重要一点,并且重管那支的handguard看起来不太像传统意
义上的AR15,所以最后还是选了前一支。以后如果要打精度就再去买一只大口径的栓动
步枪好了。 |
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g**********n 发帖数: 1186 | 21 打精度,扳机确实是关键。但普遍认为free-floating handguard对AR的精度影响有限
。Hertz建议的组合很不错。扳机自己改造弹簧往往也能达到很好的效果。我有几个老
猎友,各种AR一大堆。现在玩一百块钱的塑料lower combo, 连upper一起不到五百块。
这个塑料lower的扳机非常轻,因此这把便宜AR非常准,比他们几把一千多块的还准。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 23 DGS同学,单纯追求1MOA精度,不需要太多投入,买个BCM 79块的Upper, 买个Noveske
SS 16寸管,装一下就行了。 去M4C随便买个二手FF handguard,淘个UBR,买个中档镜
子,齐活了。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 24 想把2 point sling装在m4 handguard侧面,目前我的cheap解决方案: |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 25
呵呵,各位理科生帮我想想,还能缠个什么在handguard上,结实点的。
家里没有富余的黑鞋带,偷了个LD裙子的花带子。
FSB下面的那个圈,一是方向不对,二是太靠前了。 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 27
我这个是Gov Profile的管,比LW管略重,但没有FSB,和比较轻的圆handguard,省了一
点重量。
现在AR很流行LW, 卖的很好。 |
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 28 我在店里看过了AIMPOINT PRO以后就没兴趣了
个头太大
他这个,如果是有带rail的handguard,吧PRO往前装
就可以放个BUIS了,明显那个放大镜的位置太靠后 |
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r*******0 发帖数: 706 | 29 放大镜靠后是为了能戴上镜盖,也可以往前移,也一样没空间放BUIS
AimPoint Pro放在handguard上觉得有点远,那还不如只放个大倍数的镜子 |
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f****t 发帖数: 15913 | 30 Yes, it has stock and standard A2 handguard. Barrel is NOT chrome lined. |
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l******e 发帖数: 204 | 31 We have gone through and "Certified" these AKM carbines to be free of some
issues to be associated with the WASR-10 carbine. Each rifle has been
inspected to insure proper magazine lock-up and release. Additionally, they
have been inspected to be free from canted front sight bases. This is our "
Certified" version of the WASR-10 that allows you to order one online
without concerns.
- Caliber: 7.62x39mm
- Factory black oxide finish
- Laminated buttstock and upper/lower handguards
- Factory cold ... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 32
俺sling不挂那,挂handguard上。你周末要加班挣外快? |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 33 版上用Magpul护木的应该不少,我也用过一段时间,发现MOE handguard的隔热金属片
,是结结实实地卡在枪管上的,都能卡出两道印子来。
理论上来说,多这个接触,会不会增加枪管震动的不一致性? 和其他non FF护木相比
,会不会对散布影响更大? |
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f**s 发帖数: 2225 | 34 这样岂不是很沉?我觉得还是carbon fiber handguard比较好 |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 36 今天看见stag arm有plus package,弥补了了很多atag arm的不足,又动摇了。反正又
不是去伊拉克阿富汗...
Stag Arms standard carbines (Model 1, 2, 2T, 3, 8 and their left-handed
equivalents) feature:
- Carpenter 158 shot peened Bolt with black extractor spring
- Shrouded full circle AR15 bolt carrier with side staked carrier key
- 5.56 NATO chambered barrel with chrome lining, 1/9 twist, double lead
lapped, and parkerized under the front sight base
- M4 feed ramps
- F marked front sight base with taper pins
- Double heatshield handgua... 阅读全帖 |
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H****r 发帖数: 16240 | 38 活,活,这篇很搞:
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/07/31/what-your-ar-says-about-y
The Operator
You've either seen action in America’s War on Terror, or you've been
watching movies like the recent Act of Valor. These make you wish you would
have had the cojones to be a Special Forces operative, but thankfully you
don’t have to risk life and limb to have a wicked bad AR outfitted like the
pros. After all this exposure to modern military weapons today, you not
only want ARs, but also real mil-spec equipmen... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******m 发帖数: 253 | 39 各位同学:
本店准备进行一次团购:
Palmetto State Armory AR15
PALMETTO STATE ARMORY (PSA) OPTICS READY CARBINE w/6-POSITION CAR STOCK -
DOES NOT INCLUDE REAR FLIP-UP SIGHT
•Semi-auto •CMV 4150 steel constructed & chrome-lined barrel
features M4 profile & black matte phosphate finish •Dust cover
8226;Brass deflector •Forward assist •Carbine-length gas
port •1:7 RH twist •7075-T6 aluminum M4 flat-top Mil-Spec
upper is hard coat anodized black & equipped w... 阅读全帖 |
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p******o 发帖数: 1119 | 40 帮我看看,$696 free shipping.
这把枪有没有明显的缺点,一定绝对不能买的原因。谢谢。
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411550993
Description
PALMETTO STATE ARMORY M4 ORC Rifle
This PSA Optics Ready carbine comes with a 6 position stock. It does not
include rear flip-up sight. The barrel is constructed of CMV 4150 steel and
is chrome-lined and has a 1:7 RH twist. The 7075-T6 Aluminum M4 flat-top Mil
-Spec upper is hard coat anodized black and equipped with extended feed
ramps, engraved T-marks, sta... 阅读全帖 |
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j***n 发帖数: 3786 | 41 我觉得前面带quard rail太重,要买还是买塑料handguard的就好了 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 42 从别的地方的数据比较了一下, 16“ medium profile upper不算handguard是3磅,
light profile则轻了大概5-6oz
以咱这个经济条件, 组个高精度的AR是不可能的了, 所以就从重量上下手吧, 来个5
磅左右的, 老婆也可以打 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 43 似乎handguard里没有Magpul MOE
然后stock里的Magpul CTR是没包括buffer的。 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 44 Can't agree with that.
If that count as free float, then M14 is also free float, hell, even 1911s
will be free float.
This is a perfect example of free floating barrel. Nothing touches the
barrel, period.
This is another perfect example of free floating barrel
A folded dollar bill can be slided all the way down to the bore to confirm
that there's is space between the stock and barrel. The stock also has to be
rigid enough so that the weight of the gun will not bend the forearm to
touch the barre... 阅读全帖 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 45 枪管后座原理也可以。 导气也好解决, 因为DI AR的导气管对枪管的压力几乎是
constant, 所以只要外面套个free float tube就可以free float, 两脚架, 沙包和
手不管怎么碰, 压力都是free float tube承受着, 不碰枪管
反过来普通handguard就不行。 |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 47 OMG.
普通handguard固定在枪管上,
Free float tube完全不碰枪管, 怎么把力传递到枪管上?
free float tube以后, Gas block和gas tube也是不受力的, 所以枪管受到的力是恒
定的, 这已经达到了free float的目的。
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a***a 发帖数: 8941 | 48 You need two loops, one will be installed on your buffer tube, the other one
should be installed on your handguard (such as on the picatinny rail) |
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k*******n 发帖数: 5546 | 50 Handguard作为装备并不是太重要,只是个加分的东西,关键是要理解各种站姿握枪的优
劣.
我6尺左右,carbine length 7寸确实有点短,mid length 9寸及11寸,都很舒服 |
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