O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 1 一半人不交税，还有人交negative tax
所以要改成flat tax，
每个人都交税的话，
政府加税就没有那么容易了 |
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v******e
发帖数: 264 | 2 我就奇怪
交税只是分配的一个步骤，你怎么能从一个步骤来说明总总体是如何如何
你还属于坚定地认为"税前收入完全属于你，应当全部任由你支配"的群体，我在"有些
人"里已经讲得很清楚
其实你交的税永远也不可能以工资形式到你手上，政府只是想让你感觉不错，告诉你你
的工作对社会的contribution有多
大blablabla。但是有些人当真了，说我不要对社会贡献，你把那部分给回我。那就是
开玩笑了。
就好像你买了一袋1刀5分的薯片，上面写其中有5分钱捐赠给了美国红十字会。要是有
人认真说我不要捐赠，只愿意给1块
钱买，那这个买卖就不会成交。 |
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 3 ＂其实你交的税永远也不可能以工资形式到你手上，政府只是想让你感觉不错，＂
you make it sound like we all work for the government. well we don't. and on
the contrary, goverment derived their JUST power from the consent of the
govened, as states in the Declaration of Independence. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 4 你可以选择买不买暑片,你可以选择交不交税吗?
脑子进水了.
民主社会比独裁社会好的地方就在于,人民还有那么一点点决定权,可以选个代表上去,
决定多交点,还是少交点.
现在就是民主阶级斗争,你们寄生虫要选一个多收我们中产税的,我们中产,实际的纳税
人,要选一个少收我们税的.
就这么简单. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 5
Your 健保 system encourage the senior generation to screw the younger one
to pay for their medical bill. Some "好爸爸" system. What a crook. |
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a**t
发帖数: 3833 | 6 harder working often means stupider. And very often, when you don't have
very much to bragg, you say you are hard working. everybody can be hard
working. Many people work very hard to lose weight. others work very hard to
fuck others |
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 7 The process that we became humans is that the less smart and less fortunate
members died before they can multiply. That is called "evolution". A
society that promotes laziness will collapes and the losers will be the
losers. Walfare is not the savior to the poor, HARDWORK is. So, one way or
another, the RULE will prevail. I am just trying to help you undersatnd the
inevitable and pull yourself out of the loser camp. "To work is glorious!"
"there is no Messiah, relie on yourself" How true!
By |
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 8 most of them, either themselves or their parents. absolutly. I have met
many self made rich peole. very sharp, very hardworking, I have yet to meet
anyone who got rich by dishonest means. |
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s**********p
发帖数: 109 | 9 I want to add a point from a Christian perspective: the purpose that the
talented or hardworking or creative or whatever that get higher pay is NOT
to reward these individuals themselves, but to give them an opportunity to HELP
MORE PEOPLE, just like what Bill Gates is doing. In that sense, Bill Gates
has the TRUE AMERICAN SPIRIT, so does the principle of taxing the rich more. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 10
What you have is no cynicism but pure moronism, dumbass.
When pilgrims first came to North America they lived as a community and
shared their product and helped each other out in this new, challenging
land. "We shall treat each other like brothers." Sounds like a good idea,
but unfortunately on paper only.
Gradually some jerks realized they didn't have to work hard as long as
others were willing to. Since they shared all the products, they could
simply slack off to exploit the hardworking folks |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 11 most of our compatriots here are probaly in the top 45% bracket. that's not
the point. you don't only vote for your own benefit, at least not 100%.
poor ppl pay less tax or no tax. I don't think it needs to be changed.
raise the tax on the rich ppl. 40% is way to low, comparing to european
countries. fairness <> same tax per capita.
if you are worried about not enough incentive for hardworking ppl, fine, I
accept, to a point. I'd like to point out tho, income spread is much
narrower in sca |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 12 labor and hardworking are not everything. you work to live, not live to work
. there are so many things to enjoy in the life beyond making money and
prosecuting aliens.
what conservative red necks fail to understand is anything other than god, "
son" of god, "working hard", punishing lazy parasites, individualism,
prosecuting same-sex marriage /(online) gambling, and protecting their
family from evil illegal aliens. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 13 agian! Hardworking also means smart brain.
after all, you have all the freedom to become who you want to be, and dont
blame anyone else that you have a dumb brain.
on
000
partly |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 14 Money and power are not everything in this world. There are so many other
things to be taken care of in this society.
A civilization is not valued only by how wealthy it is. It is only a small
part of it.
That being said, I really do not think those super rich masters have created
much of net wealth for the society, if any at all. What they did was mostly
"outsmarting" others in a zero-sum game, which makes the distribution
system even more unfair (sucking money from hardworking mid-poor clas |
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b*********d
发帖数: 3539 | 15 i hope you are not talking about me as an individual when you said "you".
tell me what you know about me, if you don't mind.
and to your question, yes, my dinner comes from the tax payer's money.
however i worked hard for it everyday, creating scientific knowledge that
keeps the tech advances of this nation and it appreciates my effort. you don
't think all the modern technology was granted by extraterrestrials, do you?
(the word "alien" is used already) i don't sell insurance to the poor o... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 16 What I knew about you is you are a parasite, your so called Knowledge has no
willing buyer. You pay no tax becAuse
whatever money you have is from greedy tax payers like me. If there were no
greedy people like me, there will be no
one to feed parasites like you. People like you will not last long in The
process of evolution. Yes I am a believer of
evolution, that is why I believe we the hardworking people should not have
to bail out losers like you, we should let
you take the consequences of n... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 17 My top pick is Ron Paul.
Uncompromising, honest, hardworking, and very smart!
, |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 18 民主党控制的伊利诺伊州国会通过加税法案，个人所得税增加67%，商业收入税增加46%
Quinn congratulates Democrats on income tax increase
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Posted by Ray Long and Monique Garcia at 2:15 a.m.
A triumphant Gov. Pat Quinn congratulated fellow Democrats early today after
the Illinois Senate and House sent him a major income tax increase without
a single Republican vote in favor.
Quinn smiled and shook hands on the floor of the Senate around 1:30 a.m.
after the Senate voted 30-29 for the bill, which would raise the personal
income tax-r... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 19 By Stella Paul
Conventional wisdom has it that Bill Clinton was a flawed man, but a good
president. Let's blast that claptrap to smithereens with a Fast and Furious
AK-47, because Bill Clinton was an unadorned calamity for our national
security, and, in all probability, remains one to this day.
In the last week, we learned some piquant facts about Clinton's associates:
First, his wife's most intimate aide, Huma Abedin, has a Saudi mother and
brother who are both prominent members of the Muslim ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 20 By Stella Paul
Since we live in a craven age, let's salute our few heroes. Meet Jessica
Felber, a 21-year-old Lioness of Judah, who's suing the University of
California for failing to protect her civil rights.
Felber is a student activist at Berkeley who simply asserts her right to
stand on campus and hold a sign saying, "Israel Wants Peace," without
subsequently needing urgent medical attention. What Jew can count on that
right on a UC campus these days?
In March 2010, Felber was violently as... 阅读全帖 |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 21 Federal employees owe $1.03 billion in unpaid taxes
Congressional staffers owed about $10.6 million in unpaid taxes in 2010, a
slight increase from the previous year and a growing slice of the roughly $1
billion owed by federal and postal workers nationwide.
The figures are “totally unacceptable and disrespectful to hardworking
American taxpayers,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah). “If you’re on the
federal payroll, the very least you can do is pay your taxes.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blo... 阅读全帖 |
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 22 亲爱的华人同胞们：
美国最高法院正在重新考虑是否需要禁止大学招生考虑种族因素。
美国宪法14修正案“平等保护条款”保证给予每一个人均等机会，而不是针对种族而区
别对待。我们相信，高校招生政策应该符合美国宪法14修正案的精神。很遗憾，亚裔学
生长期以来遭受严重的歧视。“全国高校的经验研究”（NSCE）项目进行了超过9000个
学生采访。普林斯顿大学社会学家托马斯Espenshade进行严格的回归分析，得出如下结
果，此此结果也被新闻媒体广泛引用：如果想被名牌大学录取，在其它条件类似的情况
下，亚裔学生 SAT 成绩必须要比白人高140分，比西班牙裔高280分，比黑人高450分（
总分1600）。(这个分析已经把性别，GPA， 体育等方面的因素考虑在内)
目前已经有41483参与投票，发出我们对大学招生中的种族歧视的抗议。我们
还需要9000多个投票，以显示我们的关注力度。请确保你的配偶，孩子，父母，朋友，
和所有同事能够参与这个请愿。 （如果您是永久居民或者公民， 请参与这项签名请愿
活动，以改变亚洲人被歧视的命运。)
请点击以下的链接参与
http://admin.80-20nj.in... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 23 Support Rep. Black's Amendment to De-Fund Obama's Lawsuits Against State
Immigration Laws!
Rep. Diane Black (R-TN) filed last night an amendment to the House Commerce-
Justice-Science Appropriations bill that would prevent the federal
government from using taxpayer funds to sue states over their immigration
enforcement laws.
Specifically, the proposed amendment is based on her previously introduced
bill, H.R. 3842
, which protects state immigration enforcement laws that the U.S. Department
of Ju... 阅读全帖 |
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m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 24 One month to the day after his infamous ‘you didn’t build that’ speech,
President Obama’s description of wealthy people did not include “smart”
or “hardworking,” as he instead ascribed their success to good luck.
“If you’re lucky enough, and fortunate enough, and been blessed enough to
be in the other two percent, the top two percent, you still get a tax cut
for your first $250,000 of income,” Obama said during a campaign stop in
Council Bluffs, Iowa. “All we’re saying is after that, maybe you c... 阅读全帖 |
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 25 Because the rich rigged the system. The distribution system is so unfair
that sickness or unemployment can easily drag middle class people into dead
poor. Acknowledged that the welfare system is abused by a lot of people, but
that doesn't cover the fact that there are more hardworking poor in this
country. More and more people slipped into poverty each year.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.3 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 26 What a surprise!
Maybe because most people here are honest/hardworking, and self-resposible? |
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d*********8
发帖数: 2 | 27 Nobody blames him on his hardworking to become wealthy. People just don't
think his belief and policy will bring bright future to the nation. |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 28 Damn he is good and brave.
We need such a president who is brave, and have a clear mind. Somebody who
can standup for the hardworking people.
I support Romney! Federal government really should NOT take on these things,
it's on the state level. As a matter of fact, Federal government need to
limit its power and responsibilities, and budget, of course. We need to go
back to the principle, the constitution! |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 29 我忍不住想要profile你一下，不一定正确。
我感觉你在中国的黑暗时期长大，在观念形成的少年时代，被马克思思想包围。虽然长
大过程中，在新的观念冲击下，你意识到马克思思想，共产主义是evil。但是在潜意识
中，大同世界，按需分配的理想依旧埋藏着。（少年时代，潜意识，关键词都出来了，
哈哈哈）
下面认真说。
你的政治主张是理想驱动的，而不是现实驱动的。你觉得美国的民主制度是对的，美国
的资本主义是对的，你觉得中国之前的福利制度是对的，你觉得全民医疗是对的，你觉
得救济穷人是对的。把这些对的主张都放在一起，就是理想的制度，就是应该追求的目
标。所以当Obama chanted "hope" and "change"。顿时就resonated through your
heart.
但是你理想中的制度是不存在的。所有号称可以解救我们，把我们带向这个理想的人都
是混蛋和野心家，比如列宁，比如毛。
就像你觉得Cklein应该感激的社会主义福利，就只可能和那个极权社会一起出现。那种
福利是给“干部”的，上了大学，都是国家的人了，都是未来的国家干部，是未来的统
治阶级。所以那个年头的大学生如此的稀... 阅读全帖 |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 30 我忍不住想要profile你一下，不一定正确。
我感觉你在中国的黑暗时期长大，在观念形成的少年时代，被马克思思想包围。虽然长
大过程中，在新的观念冲击下，你意识到马克思思想，共产主义是evil。但是在潜意识
中，大同世界，按需分配的理想依旧埋藏着。（少年时代，潜意识，关键词都出来了，
哈哈哈）
下面认真说。
你的政治主张是理想驱动的，而不是现实驱动的。你觉得美国的民主制度是对的，美国
的资本主义是对的，你觉得中国之前的福利制度是对的，你觉得全民医疗是对的，你觉
得救济穷人是对的。把这些对的主张都放在一起，就是理想的制度，就是应该追求的目
标。所以当Obama chanted "hope" and "change"。顿时就resonated through your
heart.
但是你理想中的制度是不存在的。所有号称可以解救我们，把我们带向这个理想的人都
是混蛋和野心家，比如列宁，比如毛。
就像你觉得Cklein应该感激的社会主义福利，就只可能和那个极权社会一起出现。那种
福利是给“干部”的，上了大学，都是国家的人了，都是未来的国家干部，是未来的统
治阶级。所以那个年头的大学生如此的稀... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******1
发帖数: 6411 | 31 latino国家的人也hardworking，但并没有什么特别成功的典型。你举个有影响力的例
子。我自认没有种族歧视，但对不同文化还是有歧视的。非洲那么多国家没出现什么世
界级的影响力的player，跟文化有关吧。
from |
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t**********3
发帖数: 12623 | 32 钱来的太容易了，从未体验从无到有所付出的代价，也不懂人类社会基础经济活动的规
则与规律，反而需要通过均富和所谓帮助穷人占领精神道德制高点，获得morally
superior来match up自己financially superior的地位
真正右派和GOP的base都是hardworking working class family和中小工商业者，这些
人为社会贡献了最大的workforce和创造了最多的就业机会 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 33 Steyn：在加拿大和澳大利亚竞争高技能移民的时候，美国高速引入低技能福利移民；
加利福尼亚拉丁裔人口从1970年占人口10%暴增到2010年的40%，这不自然
To an immigrant such as myself (not the undocumented kind, but documented up
to the hilt, alas), one of the most striking features of election-night
analysis was the lightly worn racial obsession. On Fox News, Democrat
Kirsten Powers argued that Republicans needed to deal with the reality that
America is becoming what she called a “brown country.” Her fellow Democrat
Bob Beckel observed on several occasions that if ... 阅读全帖 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 34 I don't understand your logic.
I am starting a business, and I am making toward $1.6m.
All thanks to the business environment and my hardwork.
What is your point? Make sure nobody make $1.6m? What the fuck, it is my
goal to make $10m per month, anything wrong with my goal?
When you see people make more money, why don't you try to work toward it,
why just complaining? If you are incapable, then it proved their work is
more valuable than yours,
will
CEO |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 35 You probably don't understand what I am talking about, so I will say it
again.
Rais the tax of the top 2%, based on Obama, is supposed to be good for the
rest of the 98%, as those money will redistributed among the 98%, and only
hurt the top 2%.
So in theory, these 98% should all be happy for such a bill.
And yet, there're 38% feel this is not right to get money from the top 2%
and put it in their own pocket.
You think these 38% are stupid? No, I think they might be the smartest among
the 98%. T... 阅读全帖 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 36 It's nothing to the country's budget deficit.
But it's a lot to individuals. Because it's paid by only 2% of its citizens!
Closing the loophole will raise a lot more money, and Obama does not want to
do it? Why?
It's a pure political show! Obama wants to prove to its voters that he will
punish Hardworking people! It's OK to be on food stamp! Nothing to be shamed
off. Relax, enjoy your life.
And you are still fighting for the FoodStamps! |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 37 Please check the fact.
GOP prefers a fair play. If we want to go back to Clinton era taxm we all go
back to Clinton era tax rate. You can't just widen the tax gap. Clinton
didn't do it, Bush didn't do it. Obama wants to do it now? Widen the TAX gap
between the "rich" and "poor", wage a class war?
You want to punish the hardworking top 2%? No!
You probably don't know many top 2% around you, I know too many. And there'
re so many people on this board belongs to the top 2% too. Making $200K is
real... 阅读全帖 |
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b****d
发帖数: 1311 | 38 Hardworking top 2%? Are the mid-class not hard working? Better remove the
first misleading words.
go
gap
be
much |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 39 We will continue to study hard, of course. But I also understand why people
hate "Hardworking" Chinese now. It's not completely nonsense. We did take
away their lunch, not as we thought, that we only contributed. |
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j*****e
发帖数: 182 | 40 Right to work will drive the wage to the down hill.
Everyone will be effected.
You can consider yourself as a smart and hardworking individual right now.
Wait until you get older or get injuried at work, let the so called "right-
to-work" takes away your right to work. |
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y**********a
发帖数: 824 | 41 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/09/colorado-immigrant-t
The cheers of immigrant students echoed through the Colorado Capitol on
Friday after the House passed a bill allowing students who entered the U.S.
illegally to pay lower college tuition, a measure that will soon become law.
Students hugged and wiped away tears outside the House chamber after the
vote, sending the proposal to Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is
expected to sign it sometime this month.
The historic vote comes a... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 42 Being president of the U.S., the most powerful man in the world, is often
most about perception. The man (or, one day, woman) in the job takes actions
large and small every day, but it is the perception of the man that seeps
into the everyday lives of working Americans.
That's why presidential candidates always hit Philadelphia for a cheesesteak
during campaigns (Democrats to Pat's, Republicans to Geno's). Sure, they're
running billion-dollar operations trying to win the White House, but one
pic... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 43 Describing Obama, Bush in a word
By Carroll Doherty
Public views of Barack Obama today are very different from those of George W
. Bush at about this point in his second term. Obama’s job rating is in
positive territory, while Bush’s tilted negative.
But a look at the one-word descriptions of the two men finds some common
ground. Most notably, the word incompetent appears high on the one-word list
for each.
In a recent Pew Research Center survey, conducted June 12-16, variations on
the word good... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 44 Washington has been abuzz for months over the fear and loathing that
Congressional staffers have for Obamacare. Many staffers and employees on
Capitol Hill have been saying they'll have to quit Washington if they are
forced into Obamacare. Now the President is promising to fix it all for them.
At the very beginning of his closed-door meeting with Senate Democrats, the
President addressed staffers' worries that Obamacare will force them to quit
working in Washington, promising "I'm on it."
Curren... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 45 Tennessee State Rep. Joe Carr told Breitbart News on Tuesday that he is
running against Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) in the state’s GOP primary for
U.S. Senate over Alexander’s vote for the Senate’s “Gang of Eight”
immigration bill.
In a phone interview shortly after he announced his candidacy on a local
radio station, Carr told Breitbart News exclusively that Alexander’s vote
for the Gang of Eight bill “is going to be one of the three critical issues
in the campaign going forward.”
“Sen. Alexand... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 46 Fighting a law that is unfair, unworkable and unaffordable is reasonable and
necessary.
Now that the government shutdown has ended and the president has preserved
ObamaCare for the time being, it's worth explaining why my organization, the
Heritage Foundation, and other conservatives chose this moment to fight—
and why we will continue to fight. The reason is simple: to protect the
American people from the harmful effects of this law.
I spent a good part of my summer traveling around the country... 阅读全帖 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 47 http://news.msn.com/world/hard-work-long-hours-french-find-chin
People who work hard will eventually take over the world.
Even for people saying that our Chinese, don't like politic, don't like wars
, only knows hardworking, I am telling you, we will take over the world.
I used to be worrying about the future of the China, until I see the news in
the article. No more worries.
China may hit some hiccups along the way, we may lose money, lose life
because of our mistakes of ignorance of politics, ... 阅读全帖 |
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S*****n
发帖数: 692 | 48 是achivement for everyone regardless of ability and hardwork 更好吧。
opportunity 太不普适了。 |
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Y********o
发帖数: 75 | 49 11月17日，我们听到一个振奋人心的消息，著名人权律师Blum先生代表亚裔学生，开始
起诉哈佛大学和北卡大学他们多年来在新生录取时对亚裔的歧视。以下是一些触目惊心
的残酷事实：
1． 亚裔进一流名校SAT要比白人高140分，比西裔高270分，比非裔高450分。
2． 亚裔在任何一个SAT分数段的录取率都是最低。在同样分数的情况下，录取率比
白人低67%。比其他族裔则更低。
3． 我们很多品学兼优的孩子，有着高SAT，高GPA, 并有参赛得奖、优异课外活动
的资质还被长春藤等名校累累拒绝。
在过去20年亚裔学生不但数量增加，学生的素质大幅度提高的情况下，长春藤对亚裔学
生的录取比例基本持平。这些学校的隐形配额制已经形成对我们孩子成长和教育的最大
枷锁。是亚裔和华裔在美国所面临的最大人权问题。
今天，Blum先生已经站出来为我们抗争了。我们还能再做哑裔吗？华人应该组织起来，
趁热打铁，积极支持这一诉讼。具体如下：
第一、发动被哈佛、北卡大学等名校不公正拒绝的学生勇敢地站出来，参与到对这些学
校的起诉活动中。不论是公开或匿名方式，都是重要的支持。
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WASHINGTON—Taking advantage of the system and giving nothing back in return
, local unemployed, single mother Mei Xiang reportedly gave birth to two
more children out of wedlock this week and continued to pathetically leech
off the government. “This lazy freeloader was already depending on the
government to take care of her other kids, and then she has the nerve to pop
out a couple more? Unbelievable,” said Arlington, VA resident Ev... 阅读全帖 |
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