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发帖数: 584 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 board 讨论区 】
【 原文由 saho 所发表 】
Date:
Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:23:16 -0600
From:
"shao, lin" | Block address
To:
s*******[email protected]
Subject:
The Tragedy happend around us
Add Addresses
All the Chinese Students and Scholars:
We are shocked to heard about such tragedy happend just around us. One
of our chinese student, Hu Lu, a young girl (just 25 years old ) |
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r*******u
发帖数: 8732 | 2 In Toronto not Vancouver
Piano for Vision Hope Recital with acclaimed performer blind pianist Hu Hai
Peng presented by: CNIB, Li Delun Music Foundation, Huang Zhong Music
Canaada inc. Co-presented by LangLang Classical Club International (Canada
Chapter) and Chinese Professional Women of Canada. Supported by The Ontario
Trillium Foundation. Program: Beethoven Sonata op.53, Chopin Sonata No. 2
Ballade No. 4, Ravel Sonatine and Chinese & Canadian music.
For more information on the Toronto Centre f |
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G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 3 just got a news. President Hu will visit Chicago on Jan 20.
And there is a ceremony there.
Check your local chinese community and arrange to join the ceremony. |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 4 by chance, found this one..
72 Hu Mu Shen Zhen CHN 1582
Year Tournament Position
2008 Asian Open (Euro Tour) T35
2008 Kunming (China Tour) T12
2008 KEB Invitational (Korean Tour) T21
2008 Dixie Amateur (FL, USA) T13
2007 St Augustine Amateur (FL, USA) T5
2007 PING Invitational (Junior) OK, USA T6
2007 Scratch Players (USA) 2
2007 Western Amateur (MI, USA) T23
2007 US Am Qualifying Qualifier
2007 HP Junior (USA) 1
2007 FootJoy Boys Invitational (USA) T6
20 |
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S*********r
发帖数: 4729 | 5 佩服啊佩服，打得Steve Wang和Du Chengyi两个2500+的选手一点还手之力都没有。
要不是中间两人略带放水地玩几把，估计输的分数要更加难看了。
个人认为他们打2500的选手应该是能够控制在让对手拿3-4分左右的实力的，尤其是Li
Hu，
防守稳健，认真打的时候几乎不失误，一旦攻起来对手基本没什么机会了。 |
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b*****f
发帖数: 341 | 6 看了几场Li Hu的比赛，的确是非常稳健。对手虽然偶尔能打几个漂亮球，但是基本最
后都输在自己的失误率上。
Li |
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T******n
发帖数: 1131 | 7 This is Hu Na's website: http://www.huna.com.tw/. From her website, she was ranked as high as 40. She is for sure good looking. |
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D******o
发帖数: 1222 | 8 我知道Hu mm是和asus交手的漂亮女生，但是她有什么生平事迹，为什么这么多仰慕者
？从大家的只言片语揣测以前是专业黄毛球选手？谁能科普一下 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 9 跟hu mm差不多吧~那时候经常能在超市门口看到她的自行车 |
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n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 10 hu mm平时在哪里练球?
抽空去切磋切磋... |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 11 最后一吼太销魂了。。。
hu mm的击球动作真是惟妙惟肖啊 |
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D****o
发帖数: 2249 | 12 大虾你这是要俺命, 就这三个回合俺就画了40个FRAME...
发现HU MM的前后位置有些问题,重新改了改. |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 14 你自己说的啊，hu mm现在很久不锻炼了，也就是个男4.0的水平，所以你现在能赢她也
不算啥啊
还特地举例你给4.5 bagel啊 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 15 HU game, Winner take 535$ token, loser get 41$
I usually do not play that way.
Full Tilt Poker Game #12124476415: Satellite to FTOPS Event #9 (90684906),
Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:30:45 ET - 2009/05/09
Seat 1: crazydevill (49,200)
Seat 2: pokeryjj (46,800)
crazydevill posts the small blind of 400
pokeryjj posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokeryjj [3d Td]
crazydevill raises to 2,400
pokeryjj raises to 6,400
crazydevill calls 4,000
*** |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 work hard on this saturday, get 4 tokens today.
But, do not play well on other games, do not have enough energy.
When I am involved in 3 HU game at the same time, then total mess. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 my understanding is the same as yours.
but do not know the result yet.
In this morning, I have only 2 tokens.
So work very hard today.
Because the stupid game does not fill up right away, need wait 2 hours for a
game.
Sometimes the games come at the same time, then I doom to lose.
I can not play 3 HU at the same time. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 18 lol, Yep.
In the morning, I win extra 1 token, I got 3, others get 2 token, I think I
should win it.
But after reading carefully, I think I am wrong, I need get at least 4
tokens to win it, to secure it, need 5 tokens.
So, I play HU token all days long |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 19 HU每个pot max rake是0.5，不是3（这点和SH不同）。
0.25/0.5基本没有regular，因为rake下来大家都是输，NL100开始就有不少regular了
，说明已经有人能稳定盈利了。 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 20 HU如果不是对上同一个对手，一般的PRO顶多开2桌。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 yep, and it's super turbo, you guys donate $1.5 x 2 in less than 2 mins, it'
s $90 "easy" money for FTP in an hour, no wonder they ask you "do you want
to start another game?..."
HU can easily put ppl on tilt. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 i remember someone said you have to play high stake in HU to beat rake?
a
bucks
plus |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 23 check my post below, you will understand the rake can kill all the profit.
because live game is very slow, the rake effect may not that apparent.
But with online super turbo structure, I calculate it, I play one game
around 2.5 minutes, I need pay 1.5$ for that HU game. If I match up one guy
continuously, I pay 1.5*(60/2.5) = 36 dollars to FTP.
Wow, I do not know how much my hourly rate could be, but if i have 50
dollars without rake, I only get 14 dollars effectively.
If I break even with my op |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 24 It is HU, I do not how much ROI ppl can get, usually very low.
But considering even I break even with my opponents(Assume we play 100 games
, I win 50 games, my opponent wins the rest 50 games), both I and my
opponent lose 1k to FTP. That 1k makes the huge difference.
Suppose I win my opponent 1010 dollars, sounds a lot, but effectively, I
only get 10 bucks into my pocket, FTP wins 1k, my opponent lose big,
1010bucks.
Do you see the difference, the rake is huge. If you can not beat the rake,
you |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 You are being rake such as every day for every game you play on FTP. That's
why you always choose the game provide you the biggest edge to beat the rake
. It is always true, if everyone evens out the long run, only the casino
wins. But we still keep playing because we believe that we have enough edge to win over rakes. Super turbo HU does not give you that edge,
so pick another game. But the rake never changed for different games |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 You are being rake such as every day for every game you play on FTP. That's
why you always choose the game provide you the biggest edge to beat the rake
. It is always true, if everyone evens out the long run, only the casino
wins. But we still keep playing because we believe that we have enough edge
to win over rakes. Super turbo HU does not give you that edge,
so pick another game. But the rake never changed for different games
You are being rake such as every day for every game you play on F |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 27 One last time and i am done posting. You are getting rake the same whether
it is super turbo or not. if anything HU rakes less.. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 28 Ok I have too much time to burn in my hand. so i will still reply.
experience
. No matter ROI, the 500$ per day rake has already greatly changed the
middle stake level(50dollar level) HU games' strategy. |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 29 the lowest superturbo HU used to be 14+.5
basically you wait for fish who don't have the nash equilibrium table by
their hands. punish their timid play and profit. label them with a
specific color and look for them, otherwise just wait in your spidernet.
avoid regs, they have exactly the same push/fold table as you do and you pay
the rake for null edge. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 30 1月的某个更新吧，只有10/20以上级别才有。不止hu |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 31 play that guy HU, i will prop bet. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 played some HU NL50 on ftp today. very soft and easy opponents. Even by
playing 1 table, it beats my hourly win rate on 2 tabling rush NL50 by far.
The rake back would be more as well. I probably got raked around 20$+ in an
hour.
Have to play more to find out how I do over long run. But with the 3 player i played, i have fairly significant edge over them. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 33 That is also the reason I encourage fryking to play some HU games, since it
is the best way to improve his games, plus the most profitable cash games.
.
an
player i played, i have fairly significant edge over them. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 34 as far as i can remember, none exists or few very basic ones.
HU is in some way an art, or like someone said, the purest form of poker, i
doubt much can be taught through a book. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 35 我的感觉和梨叔一样, HU NL50 on ftp, 他们没打几手, 输了就溜了.. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 36 like for cash game, the ev line is the expected value when you go all in
prior to river --------- the same rule applies to HU SNG.
We do get involved a lot of allin preflop. My luck is not quite well. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 37 打到tilt.. down 4 buy in.. ~~~ HU 很tilting 啊~~~ totally on tilt in the end. 看来以后要多打打来学习进步... |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 38 第一手和那个KK没什么办法
不过总体来说，感觉就是你可能太爱在preflop前3bet，所以被人家call 和float的厉
害。
我开始和fcf打也那样。后来和他讨论一下，他说HU大家那么deep，你OOP总3 bet其实
也有很大的disadvantages，人家call了你的3bet后，还有足够的空间去float 和make
a move on turn or river to bluff you out of a big pot. 减少preflop 3 bet 比例 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 39 I think HU needs more reading rather than "data mining". So it's really
different from full ring game. And needless to say the swing is huge. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 40 Yesterday, I run poorly on superturbo HU SNG.
Down 1k usd to the same opponent with 35$ buyins.
Crazy enough, he just runs super hot, win 85% flips. 9qo can win my KK
preflop allin, 22 can win my 33, 79o can win my jj, my draw never hits etc.
I definitely get tilted, and do not play optimally for sure.
end. 看来以后要多打打来学习进步... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 41 The problem with HU is: you have to stick with the same opponent. you can't
intentionally avoid some opponents while concentrating on fishes. So you
have to really good or good at table selection.
And as you guys said bad luck could tilt you and make it even worse. It's an
adult's game. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 42 丫打到后来有点tilt. 一百多手输了有500+ bb. 这rake 也太狠了, 这级别HU 不能常打
来盈利, 只能用来消遣.
==================
Merge $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players -
Hero (BTN/SB): $32.73
BB: $4.63
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN/SB with Kc 3c
Hero raises to $0.60, BB calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.20) 2h Qs Qd (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25
Turn: ($1.70) Jc (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25
River: ($2.20) Ks (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.25
Final Pot: $3.20
Hero shows Kc 3c
BB shows 8d Th
... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 43 HU得至少5毛钱的才有得打吧，不然rake不行
常打 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 44 基本上就是最近一个月打的。 平均一周大概打3 次吧。 其实HU 只要有action,就是一
桌，一小时也能打不少手牌。昨天两小时不到，一半时间是两桌，我和那鱼打了有800
多手牌,(最后还输了200bb)。最怕的是没有action 坐在那里等的时间。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 45 being bum hunter is better than being bum, imo.
try husng on lower stake. can build br really quick if u r good at hu |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 46 你这根本就不懂us player 的苦恼啊。bank roll 是有， 但也不敢往网上放啊。现在搞到800$了， 我想的尽是该不该取大部
分出来。
其实micro stake cash 都是rake hell. Hu 至少赢得好像快点。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 47 1 HM, 1 PLO, and then 3 HU games? OMG! |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 48 no. 1 HU game same time. but will pay up to 5 games. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 49 不敢和我玩Hu 1:3 就算了。 胡搅蛮缠， pathetic. |
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n*****t
发帖数: 190 | 50 player确实说过他可以和版上的任何人玩真钱HU，都愿意1:3odds. 具体打多久或者多
少盘就不清楚了。所以说现在也应该是1:3来打。
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