H****g
发帖数: 14447 | 1 1. 证实了毛泽东1975年写给周恩来这首诗。
《江山靠谁守·诉衷情》
当年忠贞为国筹，
何曾怕断头？
如今天下红遍，
江山靠谁守？
业未竟，
身躯倦，
鬓已秋。
你我之辈，
忍将夙愿，
付与东流？
2. 证实了1976年之前根本没有所谓饿死三千万或者大饥荒之说。
3. 毛泽东1975年的担心，或者说1964年的担心，都变成了现实。
4. 毛泽东唯一的遗产就是留给人民的造反精神，终将成燎原之火。
Mao Tse-Tung: Father of Chinese Revolution
By Fox Butterfield
Special to The New York Times
HONG KONG, Sept. 9--Mao Tse-tung, who began as an obscure peasant, died one
of history's great revolutionary figures.
Born at a time when China was wracked by civil strife, beset with terrible
poverty and enc... 阅读全帖 |
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q***7
发帖数: 2011 | 2 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: quci7 (Ihavetwoprettywives), 信区: Military
标 题: 很有意思的分析：湖南为何出革命家？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 14 23:05:12 2015, 美东)
2015年11月，美国马萨诸塞大学历史系教授裴士锋（Stephen R. Platt）的著作《湖南
人与现代中国》在中国面世。
一年前，裴士锋曾因《天国之秋》一书在中国备受瞩目。该书以“全球史”视角重审太
平天国历史，从英国外交的角度将太平天国和美国内战联系了起来。实际上，《天国之
秋》是《湖南人与现代中国》的衍生作品。“在完成《湖南人与现代中国》后，我想更
深刻地理解湘军，弄懂他们如何组织、为何获胜，于是写了《天国之秋》。”裴士锋说。
裴士锋：湖南为何出革命家？
《湖南人与现代中国》
在《湖南人与现代中国》中文版自序中，裴士锋称，自己接触的主流中国史作品，都认
为现代中国发轫于北京、上海和广州等地，湖南则被普遍描述为一个偏僻、落后、需要
启蒙的内陆省份。“我深知那只是一叶障目。于我而言，似乎可以写就一段完... 阅读全帖 |
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q***7
发帖数: 2011 | 3 2015年11月，美国马萨诸塞大学历史系教授裴士锋（Stephen R. Platt）的著作《湖南
人与现代中国》在中国面世。
一年前，裴士锋曾因《天国之秋》一书在中国备受瞩目。该书以“全球史”视角重审太
平天国历史，从英国外交的角度将太平天国和美国内战联系了起来。实际上，《天国之
秋》是《湖南人与现代中国》的衍生作品。“在完成《湖南人与现代中国》后，我想更
深刻地理解湘军，弄懂他们如何组织、为何获胜，于是写了《天国之秋》。”裴士锋说。
裴士锋：湖南为何出革命家？
《湖南人与现代中国》
在《湖南人与现代中国》中文版自序中，裴士锋称，自己接触的主流中国史作品，都认
为现代中国发轫于北京、上海和广州等地，湖南则被普遍描述为一个偏僻、落后、需要
启蒙的内陆省份。“我深知那只是一叶障目。于我而言，似乎可以写就一段完全不同的
关于现代中国诞生的历史，那便是将湖南置于故事的中心。”他把湖南与现代中国相勾
连。
左宗棠、曾国藩、郭嵩焘、谭嗣同、黄兴、宋教仁、蔡锷、毛泽东……在书中，裴士锋
注意到，在中国近现代史上，来自湖南的改革者和革命者尤其多。他以此探讨儒家传统
下的地域身份认同，在学术意义上指出... 阅读全帖 |
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i*****a
发帖数: 7272 | 4 "去过几次岳麓山。瞻仰了黄兴蔡锷的墓。当时心底涌上的是一种发自肺腑的仰慕和敬
佩，头皮和脊背都好像有些东西在涌一样" ---same here, very proud to be a
hunanese...less because there have been so many great people coming from
Hunan, but more admiring the average hunanese who are hot-blooded.....the
tribute i value most is courage...
what is "现在所谓的湖南人和湖湘文化"?
化？ |
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i*****a
发帖数: 7272 | 5 "去过几次岳麓山。瞻仰了黄兴蔡锷的墓。当时心底涌上的是一种发自肺腑的仰慕和敬
佩，头皮和脊背都好像有些东西在涌一样" ---same here, very proud to be a
hunanese...less because there have been so many great people coming from
Hunan, but more admiring the average hunanese who are hot-blooded.....the
tribute i value most is courage...
what is "现在所谓的湖南人和湖湘文化"?
化？ |
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p******e
发帖数: 17163 | 6 我不喜欢茅于是，但我更讨厌毛贼蛋。 no offense to hunanese tho. |
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E*******F
发帖数: 2165 | 7 Hunanese应该单独给绿卡配额
不然都是闽粤人占便宜 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 8
挑了些你基本该知道的。看你认识多少
Balinese
Bengalese
Bhutanese
Burmese
Cantonese
Chinese
Congolese
Faroese
Genevese
Guianese
Japanese
Javanese
Khotanese（如果不知道就打自己的屁屁）
Lebanese
Macanese （如果不知道就打自己的脸）
Maltese
Marshallese
Milanese
Nepalese
Nipponese
Portuguese
Saigonese
Senegalese
Hunanese
Shanghainese
Sikkimese
Sudanese
Sichuanese
Taiwanese
Tinorese
Vermontese
Viennese
Vietnamese
Yunnanese
Zairese |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 9 上海人填shanghainese,湖南人填hunanese,彻底把美国人搞糊涂，哈哈 |
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c*******n
发帖数: 442 | 10 不是亚裔细分么？
Guangdongnese Taiwanese 要分出来
为啥剩下的大陆人不分开？我们要分出 Fujianese Hunanese Shanghainese 。。。
还有56个民族，每个民族也要分开，比如 YunnanZhuangnese 。。。
我觉得华人律师可以联合起来，去告州政府细分的不公平，然后每个人提出个不同的方
案，慢慢耗着。
不知道这种方法可行么？ |
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 11 Region (majorities): Mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore
(minorities): Southeast Asia, and other regions with Chinese communities
Dialects
Mandarin
Jin
Huizhou
Wu
Hunanese
Jiangxinese
Hakka
Yue (including Cantonese-Taishanese)
Pinghua
Shaojiang
Northern Min
Eastern Min (including Fuchow)
Central Min
Pu Xian
Southern Min (including Amoy, Taiwanese)
Teochew (including Swatow,Chaozhou,Jieyang,part of Shanwei/Meizhou) |
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t*********9
发帖数: 81 | 12 I like cooking and I am HuNanese~~maybe we should be friends.
Ignore those stupid ppl, you do what you like, it's not their business. You
know there are a lot of "FenQin" in this world, the only thing they know is
how to criticize ppl, they probably don't even know how to cook. Anyway,
delete them and be happy~ |
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a******n
发帖数: 26 | 13 Hello 老乡. Yes. You may get your visa in any consulate. But the mailing
option is not valid for Hunanese getting visa in Guangzhou. Your mother need
to revisit Guangzhou the following week, or someone else need to be there
to pick up the visa. |
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c**r
发帖数: 2019 | 14 原文来自小隐在线，chrr对其中的错误--至少我认为是错误--进行了修正，并对部分内容
进行了注释。
汉藏语系谱系图
语系 语族 语支 语言(语群) 方言
┌北语 (Mandarin)【汉族、回族】〔中国大陆，台湾〕
┌北语群───┼晋语 (Jin)【汉族】〔中国〕
│ └东干语 (Dungan)【回族】〔哈萨克斯坦〕
├客赣语群──┬赣语 (Gan)【汉族】〔中国江西〕
│ └客语 (Hakka)【汉族、畲族】〔中国江西,福建,广东,台湾〕
├───────吴语 (Wu)【汉族】〔中国江苏、浙江〕
├───────徽语 (Hui)【汉族】〔中国安徽〕
├───────湘语 (Hunanese, Xiang)【汉族】〔中国湖南省〕
│ ┌闽北语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
│ │
┌汉语族 ──────┤ ├闽东语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
(Sinitic)
│ ├闽语群 (Min)┼闽中语【汉族】〔中国福建〕 |
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i*********8
发帖数: 3229 | 15 第一个评语，这个88%是个外F
Being a Hunanese, tried out their plates, the verdict is- it's neither authe
ntic nor delicious at all. Thumbs down. If you're looking for tasty Hunan cu
isine go to the one in Flushing.
Pro:
-Comfortable dinning space, clean and kinda luxurious interior design.
-Service is okay
Cons:
-Over priced
-Food is not authentic, nor tasty |
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B********e
发帖数: 312 | 16 His parents are Hunanese. He grew up in Wuhan. So he是湖南的，也是湖北的. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 17
he is from Changde, Hunan.
among the 3 Hunanese adults who improved fast: junkywind, hptd, quentin,
i was most impressed by Quentin.
i played hptd in 2005 at ebay, felt he was a 1200-1300 player, a few years
later, he played in 1600 level at cupertino YMCA. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 18
he is from Changde, Hunan.
among the 3 Hunanese adults who improved fast: junkywind, hptd, quentin,
i was most impressed by Quentin.
i played hptd in 2005 at ebay, felt he was a 1200-1300 player, a few years
later, he played in 1600 level at cupertino YMCA. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 19 the eldest in FC is Mr Liu, 86 y.o., he is Hunanese, went to Wuhan Univ.,
then went to Taiwan for an engineering project at the end of 1948, could
not return back to China. He never saw his parents again afterwards. How
sad it is...
But his elder sister in 90s, younger sister in 80s still live in Wuhan. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 20 when i did recommend milestone and nospin to their team captain, i
had no expectation, now: the star team members:
ypeng, jxg, nospin, milestone etc... everyone is watching u guys
to see Hubeiese is more generous or Hunanese is! |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 21
my game depends on my mental toughness, guess it is in my Hunanese
blood, i need to have that fighting spirit to play at my best.
This tournament was too long for me, from 12:20pm Sat to like 10pm
almost 34 hours except driving/shower/breakfast time...
against Wei:
i led 10: 3 in my first game, lost 4 points in a row, won 11:7
won 2nd game like 11:4 or 5, suddenly lost 3rd game 4:11...
drama, so dramatic...
against ypeng:
one hour later, more tired, more dramatic, led 10:4 in 3rd, lost
4, Lao C... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 22 i chatted with Deng Yaping, she told me she was Hunanese, both
her parents are from south of Hunan... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 23 来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 合唱的魅力
you are right, so my first trial i sang a Hunan folk: DongTing YuMi Xiang
teacher Xu told me she couldn't understand a single word from my singing,
i told her i sang in Hunanese:-)
I got admitted to Hunan art school when i was 10-11 yo, the same school
a lot of famous singers from Hunan went when they started their career,
so getting in Univ chorus should be a piece of cake for me. |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 24 嗯，在纽约发明的：
The dish is named after General Tso Tsung-tang, or Zuo Zongtang, a Qing
dynasty general and statesman, although there is no recorded connection to
him. The real roots of the dish lie in the post-1949 exodus of chefs to the
United States. The dish is reported to have been introduced to New York City
in the early 1970s as an example of Hunan cooking, though it is not typical
of Hunanese cuisine, which is traditionally very spicy and rarely sweet.[1]
[2] The dish was first mentioned in Th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 25 compared to Chinese,ShangHainese, Hunanese.
it should be GuangDongnese ma...
cantonese = chinese ?
many of cantonese speakers claims cantonese is on par with chinese, it's a
own language, not a sub dialog...
are you so sure cantonese = chinese ? |
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h****e
发帖数: 72 | 26 Are you Hunanese? I am. |
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t**n
发帖数: 4365 | 27 wantz, we can at least have a one-to-one hunanese meeting at the same time,
hehe. |
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w***z
发帖数: 31 | 28 haha, you are also Hunanese? Great!
, |
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t**n
发帖数: 4365 | 29 i have more than 10 ppl interested in this event ... but only 2 hunanese
at this point ... |
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h*********6
发帖数: 2469 | 30 There is another Hunanese restaurant that opened just over a week ago. It's
located in the small plaza across the street from the ShunFa supermarket in
San Gabriel (on the opposite side of the Valley Blvd). I went there last
week and they have a few new dishes that I think is worth trying. Go check
it out.
I believe the name is Hu Nan Jiu Jia. |
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h*********6
发帖数: 2469 | 31 There is another Hunanese restaurant that opened just over a week ago. It's
located in the small plaza across the street from the ShunFa supermarket in
San Gabriel (on the opposite side of the Valley Blvd). I went there last
week and they have a few new dishes that I think is worth trying. Go check
it out.
I believe the name is Hu Nan Jiu Jia. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 921 | 32 Come on, Claike! All of us are looking at you as a good example of real
Hunanese - you surely can do it - if you didn't do it well, you could be out
later such that there is nothing to worry about. |
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o*********r
发帖数: 632 | 33 老克众望所归! No offense, but I would use Hunanian over Hunanese.
out |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 34 Japs killed most ppl during the 2nd world war..
so proud of being Hunanese. If divided by province, the # of Jap soldiers
were killed in Hunan was highest too! |
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c**r
发帖数: 2019 | 35 原文来自小隐在线，chrr对其中的错误--至少我认为是错误--进行了修正，并对部分内容进行了注释。
汉藏语系谱系图
语系 语族 语支 语言(语群) 方言
┌北语 (Mandarin)【汉族、回族】〔中国大陆，台湾〕
┌北语群───┼晋语 (Jin)【汉族】〔中国〕
│ └东干语 (Dungan)【回族】〔哈萨克斯坦〕
├客赣语群──┬赣语 (Gan)【汉族】〔中国江西〕
│ └客语 (Hakka)【汉族、畲族】〔中国江西,福建,广东,台湾〕
├───────吴语 (Wu)【汉族】〔中国江苏、浙江〕
├───────徽语 (Hui)【汉族】〔中国安徽〕
├───────湘语 (Hunanese, Xiang)【汉族】〔中国湖南省〕
│ ┌闽北语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
│ │
┌汉语族 ──────┤ ├闽东语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
(Sinitic)
│ ├闽语群 (Min)┼闽中语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
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c**r
发帖数: 2019 | 36 原文来自小隐在线，chrr对其中的错误--至少我认为是错误--进行了修正，并对部分内容进行了注释。
汉藏语系谱系图
语系 语族 语支 语言(语群) 方言
┌北语 (Mandarin)【汉族、回族】〔中国大陆，台湾〕
┌北语群───┼晋语 (Jin)【汉族】〔中国〕
│ └东干语 (Dungan)【回族】〔哈萨克斯坦〕
├客赣语群──┬赣语 (Gan)【汉族】〔中国江西〕
│ └客语 (Hakka)【汉族、畲族】〔中国江西,福建,广东,台湾〕
├───────吴语 (Wu)【汉族】〔中国江苏、浙江〕
├───────徽语 (Hui)【汉族】〔中国安徽〕
├───────湘语 (Hunanese, Xiang)【汉族】〔中国湖南省〕
│ ┌闽北语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
│ │
┌汉语族 ──────┤ ├闽东语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
(Sinitic)
│ ├闽语群 (Min)┼闽中语【汉族】〔中国福建〕
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