c*******f
发帖数: 378 | 1 from "god's" perspective!? how dare u! u r tempting the lord! r u spreading
heresy! u r possessed by the devil. inquisition now.......... hahahaha
if u still want rationality, common sense or logic, u r not "ready" for
christianity my friend. do NOT try to be logical at all in christianity.
logic is human, not "divine". christianity is a derivative from judaism with
many many crude, illogical conflicts built-in.
for chinese, only the weak, the lost and the stupid would REALLY buy into it
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 2 Think also of the "RNA-messengers", specific "DNA-plans" (genetics) for one
particular kind of living cell. So how could that have just spontaneously
bubbled up in a "tidal-pool" or "deep oceanic, volcanic hot-water-vent" --
or wherever they may say.
Show the evidence of the illogic of how millions/billions/trillions of genes
just happened, merely existed and got together here or there, and got going
without a mother cell, no prior life, just springing from sterile volcanic
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发帖数: 3056 | 3 When my son was around 3 years old, he used to ask me a lot of questions
about heaven. Where is it? How do people walk without a body? How will I
find you? You know the questions that kids ask.
For over a year, I lied to him and made up stories that I didn’t
believe about heaven. Like most parents, I love my child so much that I didn
’t want him to be scared. I wanted him to feel safe and loved and full of
hope. But the trade-off was that I would have to make stuff up, and I would
have to b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4451 | 4 of course
nobody said this is religion, why would you even ask, WHAT KIND OF religion?
it's illogical.
the natural order of questions is:
is this religion, if so, what kind?
that's the least you could do.
even asking that, doesn't make you look much smarter.
failing to do that, paint you as a pretty dumb person. sorry to break it to
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发帖数: 8336 | 5 The existence of God using logical absolutes
This is an attempt to demonstrate the existence of God using logical
absolutes. The oversimplified argument, which is expanded in outline form
below, goes as follows: Logical absolutes exist. Logical absolutes are
conceptual by nature--are not dependent on space, time, physical properties,
or human nature. They are not the product of the physical universe (space,
time, matter) because if the physical universe were to disappear, logical
absolutes w... 阅读全帖 |
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c**m
发帖数: 1632 | 6 Please convey your knowledges to me, you know, actually I like talking
with you, it's hilarious.
I like to scrutinize and analyze others' thought, such as
context/consciousness/conscience/conceit
I see through many things beyond the beguiling words. I magnify the
quivering motives, the evading covers and the skills to deceive. You know,
your words proved to be an asset for that scenario.
很抱歉，从你的数帖博文看，你对我的能力和文章的价值很感兴趣，而我感兴趣的是我
所陈述的观点和人们的接受程度，至于我个人，不值一谈，能力很差，谈也没有价值。
See, you try to separate my un... 阅读全帖 |
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N****f
发帖数: 25759 | 7 Hee hee, one of my favorite TV series of all time, especially that
opening soundtrack. When the pilot episode was first shown on
ABC in 1990, nobody talked about anything else at the water
cooler the next morning.
To bad it went down hill from there pretty quickly during the
second season, and very soon became too David Lynch-ish to
keep the audience captivated as it did at the beginning. The
reason, I think, is rather simple: Once the supernatural/illogical
elements were introduced, the audie... 阅读全帖 |
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N****f
发帖数: 25759 | 8 I don't remember that part. I think I followed it to about the third
or fourth episode of the second season, and then it just got way
too weird and illogical for me. |
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g***e
发帖数: 1168 | 9 读过stephen king几篇短篇小说，非常佩服。
但是伊著名的中长篇，我吃不消，似乎有类似你下文所述：supernatural／illogical。
SK（我另一位真正的大偶像也是介个缩写，哈哈，这个sk只是小喽罗）感觉更无耻一点
，在雷定时爆过他。
恩，这个tv show我没看过，lynch的东西看过不多，不敢多说，这个片头从画面到配乐
，都似乎有90s的一些流行元素，novelty方面不知道是否会有所损害，不过审美水准还
在，quality不错！赞！
呵呵，忽然发现1990s是黄金时代，貌似，for both hk movies and american ... |
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 10 For 3, I think in the book it's clearly said that three body world know the direction, but it's also stated that there's thousands of stars in that direction, so they cannot determine which one with out a reply. With a reply, they will know the distance (number of years passed divided by speed of light.)
And I don't understand what do you mean by "Dare they". You mean they don't dare to send "Zhi Zi"? What's the logic behind that?
Actually, I think the whole "dark forest" thing is absurd. Becaus... 阅读全帖 |
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t**k
发帖数: 260 | 11 还是5：
explore the neighborhood没问题，但是不可能观测银河系所有恒星。所以黑暗森林。
the direction, but it's also stated that there's thousands of stars in that
direction, so they cannot determine which one with out a reply. With a reply
, they will know the distance (number of years passed divided by speed of
light.)
t dare to send "Zhi Zi"? What's the logic behind that?
world is so advanced that it can destroy another world, then they surely
will explore the neighborhood, and there will be no "dark forest". On the
other ... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****n
发帖数: 93 | 12 German Idealism (12)
Schopenhauer The last great representative of German Idealism in systematic
philosophy was Schopenhauer. While with him the phenomenal world is idea
(that is, existing only as a subject idea) its objective basis is not a
"thing in itself" as Kant taught, but a universal will. This Schopenhauer
interprets as a blind, illogical, aimless impulse, without any original
ethical tendency whatsoever. Through the blind impulse of this world-will
arises human intelligence and the phen |
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o*****p
发帖数: 2977 | 13 think too much so that you confuse yourself, this is my opion about your
consideration of “理性”.
Logics is part of the principle of“理性”, just think weather Logics is
a statistics principle--- most thing are illogical but the average of them
is logics? Of course not.
1. Logics principle, and “理性” principle are not statistics principle, no
matter they are true or wrong.
2. Human find these principles useful, --- no matter how they find it---
because they ARE useful, they are here like math |
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l*******h
发帖数: 751 | 14 人们经常是不讲道理的、没有逻辑的和以自我为中心的
不管怎样，你要原谅他们
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
即使你是友善的，人们可能还是会说你自私和动机不良
不管怎样，你还是要友善
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
当你功成名就，你会有一些虚假的朋友
和一些真实的敌人
不管怎样，你还是要取得成功
If you are successful, you will win some false friends
And some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
即使你是诚实的和率直的，人们可能还是会欺骗你
不管怎样，你还是要诚实和率直
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway |
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w****r
发帖数: 17566 | 15 人们通常是不讲理、不合逻辑，而且是自我为中心的；不管怎么样，原谅他们。
如果你对人好，别人也许会指责你自私和别有用心，不管怎么样，你该仍旧善良。
如果你成功了，你会赢得一些假友，也会增加一些真敌，不管怎么样，你成功了。
如果你真诚、坦率，人们也许会欺骗你，不管怎么样，你该依然诚实、坦荡。
你花费很多年心血去建造的，可以一夜之间就被某个人摧毁；不管怎么样，继续努力建
造。
如果你找到了宁静淡泊、幸福快乐，人们也许嫉妒你，不管怎么样，你该仍旧喜乐。
你今天做的好事，人们常常明天就会忘记，不管怎么样，继续努力行善。
把你最好的给世界，也许这世界永远都不会满足，不管怎么样，继续给世界你最好的。
看啊，到最后，一切归结于你和上帝之间，从来都不在你和他们之间！
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered; Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives,
be kind anyway.
If y |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 16 Mamma, if a person by the name of Jones kills a person by the name of Smith
just for amusement, it's murder, isn't it, and Jones is a murderer?
Yes, my child.
And Jones is punishable for it?
Yes, my child.
Why, mamma?
Why? Because God has forbidden homicide in the Ten Commandments, and
therefore whoever kills a person commits a crime and must suffer for it.
But mamma, suppose Jones has by birth such a violent temper that he can't
control himself?
He must control himself. God requires it.
But he ... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 17 問題： 聖經為什麼會這麼難懂？
probably you have been focusing too much on the "illogical and inconsistent"
details to support your anti-religion arguments, but have missed the whole
picture, which is as simple as
神爱世人，甚至将他的独生子赐给他们，叫一切信他的，不至灭亡，反得永生。
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H******9
发帖数: 2766 | 18 我提供的是个“思路”给你重新看待你主楼所问的问题以及所做的结论，不是一个“例
子”。不确定你是不是把"思路"当作"论证"。
一个普通成年人如果对小孩说自己生前死后都知，那自然是说谎。
不知道你说这个例子是什么意思。如果是引申我之前的“思路例子”，那是比较不合适
的引申。
我给你回放一下 ——
你的主楼的思路是这样的（correct me if I am wrong）：
premise: 佛教描述的轮回系统太精密，太“炫目夺魄”
assertion: 佛教的轮回理论是真实不足，智慧有余
我的意见是：
The premise is not sufficient or logical to reach the assertion of your
conclusion.
所以，我建议的"思路"是这样，帮助你看待你的illogical premise/assertion：
你的premise就如同儿童看待社会的运转，可是社会是存在的，儿童如果因为社会的精
密和难以理解得出“社会是真实不足，智慧有余”的，那么是很可笑的。 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 19 Blinded By Tradition:
An Open Letter to Dave Hunt
Regarding His Newly Published Attack Upon the Reformation, What Love Is This
? Calvinism's Misrepresentation of God
James White
Updated 5/16/02, see bottom of file
Dear Dave,
In the period of time since I finally received my own copy of your book (you
may recall I scanned through it while standing at your table in St. Louis a
t the PFO Conference) I have gone through a number of different emotions. A
t first I was just going to do one Dividing ... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 20 WHAT LOVE IS THIS? By Dave Hunt
What Love is This, by Hunt debuted just recently as Hunt's defense of Armini
anism. Sub-titled "Calvinism's misrepresentation of God", Hunt pushes the Je
suit agenda to the hilt. In fact, in order to deceive as many Protestants as
possible, Hunt uses his Jesuit inspired book to claim that the reformed doc
trines of predestination and election are based on Catholic Doctrine! Amazin
g! But deception wouldn't be deception unless it worked.
To write the forward of the... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 21 congratulations -- you finally figured it out why no one else care to debate
with someone whose arguement is illogical/irrational.
you and me please. You can do anything that you like to do everyday, i.e.
condemning God or Jesus with your mind and mouth in your home or in the
public. That is your freedom and right. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 22 by Dave Hunt
Yes, man is totally unable to contribute one iota to his salvation. It does
not then follow, however, that he therefore cannot receive the salvation fre
ely offered in Christ. It is confusion at this point which creates the doctr
ine of Total Depravity and leads to the remainder of the Five Points. Spurge
on labored under no such delusion.
Calvinists gladly cite Spurgeon for support. There is no doubt that Spurgeon
often declared himself to be a Calvinist, but he frequently made sta... 阅读全帖 |
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G*****9
发帖数: 3225 | 23 Proved or cheated?
Though God does not care whether I am a president, I want to lead a good
life, for myself and ones that I love. I don't care what God thinks.
Your faith is built upon fabricated facts and illogical reasonings. If you
are happy, stick to it. But, don't share your belief with others.
Ultimately, |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 24
are
True. Faith is illogical, based on many logic fallacies. |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 25 http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43910
America is in full-blown crisis. The continuous dysfunction in our
government and culture at large reflect this. The American family has
imploded and hundreds of millions are hooked on psychotropic drugs. Our
national debt is a giant $15 trillion tumor on our economy while the welfare
state explodes. Pornography is omnipresent, 80% of new diseases are STDs,
while 50 million babies have been aborted. Our Arts have fallen into
mindless depravi... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 26 IMHO, 老七's arguement is self-referencing and illogical, it is not in the
realm of faith. |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 27
then you can not quote eviences that you don't even believe to support your
allegation. It is illogical. |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 28 http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/18/my-take-six-things-i-d
My Take: Six things I don't want to hear after the Sandy Hook massacre
By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN
(CNN) – There are a lot of things I am sick of hearing after massacres such
as the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Here
are six of them:
1. “It was God’s will.”
There may or may not be a God, but if there is, I sure hope he (or she or it
) does not go around raising up killers, plying them with semi... 阅读全帖 |
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H**********1
发帖数: 3056 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Hardworking1 (我忽悠，你参考！), 信区: Belief
标 题: Good article: God is nonsense
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 15 23:06:22 2013, 美东)
When my son was around 3 years old, he used to ask me a lot of questions
about heaven. Where is it? How do people walk without a body? How will I
find you? You know the questions that kids ask.
For over a year, I lied to him and made up stories that I didn’t
believe about heaven. Like most parents, I love my child so much that I didn
’t want him t... 阅读全帖 |
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W***q
发帖数: 152 | 30 看来本版有几个Richard Dawkins 的信徒。关于Richard Dawkins，如果有人不是太清
楚的话可以去 Google "New Atheism". Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam
Harris 和Christopher Hitchens （已去世）是“新”无神论的四个代表人物，称为"
the Four Horsemen of New Atheism".
其实New Atheism可以分为atheism和agnosticism，agnosticism(不可知论)打个比方就
是“我不知道有没有神，但我还是要sit on God's lap to slap on his face", 对了
，就是老七这样的。
Richard Dawkins在去年3月24号他在华盛顿DC召集的“Reason Rally”上，就极具煽动
性地对他的追随者发出号令，要他们去奚落和嘲笑一切的宗教机构。New Atheism在内
容上其实没有任何的新，但在形式上却更加aggressive. 借助互联网，这个movement已
经成为世界性的，实际上已经具备宗... 阅读全帖 |
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j********1
发帖数: 628 | 31 Thank you. This is the whole point. It is illogical. |
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j******f
发帖数: 228 | 32 Well, but this is listed in the Bible as something has happened, and of
course people (regardless of whether they believe or not) can use it as a
negative evidence against the Bible. I don't see why it is illogical?
And this is about an "almighty" god who chose to kill infants!! He did not
have the power or will to avoid killing innocent babies? For me, this is the
"killer" scenario that I can never accept such a god, let alone other
obvious inconsistencies in the Bible. |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 33 看来 Mother Teresa's ANYWAY 不是原创。这里有一些研究。
http://www.paradoxicalcommandments.com/mother-teresa-connection
ANYWAY
People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered,
LOVE THEM ANYWAY
If you do good, people will accuse you of
selfish, ulterior motives,
DO GOOD ANYWAY
If you are successful,
you win false friends and true enemies,
SUCCEED ANYWAY
The good you do will be forgotten tomorrow,
DO GOOD ANYWAY
Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable,
BE HONEST AND FRANK ANYWAY
What you spent years build... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 34 The Paradoxical Commandments
by Dr. Kent M. Keith
People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
Love them anyway.
If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
Do good anyway.
If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies.
Succeed anyway.
The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.
Do good anyway.
Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable.
Be honest and frank anyway.
The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 35 Does the “Unreasonable” Nature of the Virgin Conception Invalidate the
Story of Jesus?
For some, the miraculous claim of the virgin conception of Jesus
disqualifies the Gospel accounts as reliable history. The famous writer,
atheist and debater, Christopher Hitchens regularly referred to the virgin
conception as a clear example of the unreasonable nature of the Gospels.
Hitchens would occasionally attempt to demonstrate the illogical,
unreasonable nature of his debate opponent by asking the simp... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 36 Is Christianity Intolerant?
The Easter season often ushers in a period of cultural skepticism and
criticism of all things “Christian”. At times like this, the issue of
religious “tolerance” is sometimes raised and examined. Christians are
often called intolerant, especially when examined under a new definition of
tolerance that has emerged in our culture. How should we respond when people
call us “intolerant” simply because we refuse to embrace a particular
value or behavior?
FIRST: Help People ... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 37
So you point is:
If ever there is self-contradiction in the Bible, or something that's
clearly illogical as written in the bible, then that passage should not be
taken literally. But everything else should be taken as literal truth.
Am I understanding it correctly now? |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 38 Is God Real? Evidence from the Laws of Logic
Most of us don’t think much about the physical or non-physical laws of the
universe necessary for us to exist (and make sense of our existence). As an
example, we usually take the law of gravity for granted; it doesn’t really
matter how the law operates or what forces lie behind it. We simply accept
the fact we live in a world where gravity is a reality. In a similar way,
there are many conceptual laws we also take for granted. These abstract
truths o... 阅读全帖 |
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 39 If you'd have the energy to check other religions, you might reach the same
conclusion that other religions are 邪恶, or illogical somewhere. Are you
going to fight against those, too? But one's life is limited, and what do
you want the most out of this life?
If someone believes 基督教, perhaps they have found something valuable there
, let them be. If they don't find it reasonable any more, they can make the
same decision as yours to go away from it. You are not a savior to anyone.
You have done you... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**u
发帖数: 5466 | 40 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
wusuoqiu (嘁哩喀喳：基督教是邪教！) 于 (Sun Sep 2 20:13:33 2012, 美东) 提到:
本来，我不想写这个帖子的。
我奉行“知之为知之，不知为不知，是知也”的治学态度，对自己没有深入研究的东西
，我一般不愿意发表看法。我对基督教有很深入的研究，自信我已经完全了解基督教了
。但是，对佛家的东西，我目前只研读了《金刚经》和《心经》，我的认识肯定还很浅
。所以，我本来不想写这个帖子的。但是，看到网上有些帖子散布一些完全不负责任的
言论，因此我还是不揣冒昧，将我所知道的一些佛教和基督教的区别写出来。有关基督
教的陈述，我可以负完全的责任。对有关佛教的陈述，如有不对的地方，恳请佛门高人
指点。
1）真理
基督教自称是“唯一真理”，耶稣更是自称“我就是道路，我就是真理”。
而佛家从来没有自称是“真理”。《金刚经》说：法上应舍，何况非法？在佛家看来，
所谓的佛法，是人们认识/体证真理到达解脱彼岸的道路/工具。佛法就像是大家渡河的
船，大家如果到了彼岸，就不再需要这个船了。
在佛... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 41 Your last sentence,
You don't know that! Actually.
You can not possiblly know that you live only once if you actually only live
for once. Illogical. |
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 42 LZ's analysis is very logical. However, most fans are illogical when
supporting their teams. Call it blind love. |
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 43 Kao. Your Chinese sucks!
哈佛大学年初时被教育部调查是否在录取上对亚裔有歧视之嫌，今年亚裔的录取率就是
近年来最高的，比往年增加了15%。
There is a word 就是 in the second half of the above sentence, which
indicates a causal relationship!
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
First, an argument contains two components or statements. One is a premise
while the other is a conclusion. The sentence in question has two
statements. Which one is which, then? Is the investigation the premise? Or
is the admission rate increase the premise? You decide.
Second, if, as ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 452 | 44 拜访一位美国朋友，他的墙上挂着个镜框，
放的是Mother Teresa's Message。
中文叫什么？特丽莎教母？
Message 说：
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-contered--
Forgive them anyway
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies--
Succeed anyway
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight---
Build anyway
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous---
Be happy anyway
The good you do today, people w |
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l******o
发帖数: 2649 | 45 You can move but not cut files and folders in UNIX. It is not there from the
beginning.
"Cut a file" is also ambiguous by name. Do you mean, "split a file"? For
example. However cutting content of a file out is not ambigous in this way.
Therefore it is likely considered illogical operation on file and folders. |
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