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发帖数: 4082 | 1 据说Imminent 和 impossible 是同义词。所以，楼主的意思是 暴跌 is imminent is
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发帖数: 19713 | 2 Poll: Marriage Equality Is Imminent
Bipartisan support for legal recognition of couples is growing, and 83% say
marriage equality will happen within the next 10 years.
Three-quarters of voters say that the right to marriage is a constitutional
right, and 83% say they believe marriage equality will become legal in the U
.S. within the next decade.
According to a poll of 800 participants by the Anzalone Liszt Grove Research
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发帖数: 348 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: alexandria99 (xiaxie88), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: North Korea military coup imminent
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 18 23:30:57 2008)
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发帖数: 7521 | 4 S&P Says Greek Default Imminent
by Tyler Durden
Time for the dominos to fall where they may: head of sovereign ratings at S&
P Kraemer spoke on Bloomberg TV, and said the following:
KRAEMER: GREECE, CREDITORS `RUNNING OUT OF TIME' IN DEBT TALKS -BBG
KRAEMER: EURO LEADERS HAVEN'T TACKLED CORE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS -BBG
KRAEMER SAYS EUROPE MUST DEAL WITH IMBALANCES, COMPETITIVENESS -BBG
And the punchline:
KRAEMER SAYS HE BELIEVES GREECE WILL DEFAULT SHORTLY - RTRS
The only thing he d... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3624 | 5 imminent什么意思啊。。那么高级的词汇不懂。。。 |
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 7 Because so many people are believing "暴跌is imminent" |
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m*******y
发帖数: 88 | 8 "Imminent" usually describes bad things, man!!! |
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发帖数: 15372 | 10
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最有名的就是Dennis v. United States和Brandenburg v. Ohio，在Brandenburg v.
Ohio上诉案件中明确了仅仅是鼓吹暴力在本质上是受保护的言论。明确了不受到法律保
护的言论只能是造成了“迫在眉睫的不法行为”的言论。事实上史密斯法已经被高院以
一系列上诉案例判定为违宪，虽然它还留在联邦法典的纸面上，国会并没有再就此案专
门做一个全部废止的法案，这种情况是很常见的。
Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark United States
Supreme Court case based on the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
The Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that
speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless actio... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9094 | 13 "Self-defense" means that when a person believes that his life is in danger,
or believes that he is in imminent danger of grievous bodily harm, he has a
right to defend himself. The New York law also says that a person, in
defending himself, must use no more force than is actually necessary. He
must, if he can, avoid the quarrel. In other words, if he can run away, it
is his duty to do so. While that may not be popular with men when they are
assaulted, yet that is the law of the New York state.
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发帖数: 2883 | 16 看这个，这就是主流们现在怎么样为案子判决洗地。 他们说，其他白人警官故意开枪
无罪，是因为他们声称他们面临“imminent danger" 而梁仅仅是看见 darkness 就故
意开枪了，就是置无辜者生命不顾。但是，首先梁看见的并不是简单漆黑，他听见了一
个动静大到足以惊吓他。为什么那些白人警官说自己“以为”黑人去口袋掏枪就是
imminent danger,而梁以为自己要受到袭击了，就不是呢？
The officers in the Amadou Diallo and Sean Bell saw “imminent danger” but
Peter Liang only saw "darkness"? No. Liang testified he was startled by a
big noise. So why the officers in Bell case "thought he saw Guzman reach for
a gun", and "thought Diallo was reaching for a gun in his pocket"
consti... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 44 | 17 OK, with "imminent threat" established as a key element in HD, we can now
focus on 776.013 (4). Which quotes:
776.013 (4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts
to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to
be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or
violence.
This clause clearly states a presumption of "unlawful act involving force or
violence" when intruder was entering/entered the premise A)unlawfully B)by
forc... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 257 | 18 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
dnathink (水妖) 于 (Wed Jan 15 10:30:24 2014, 美东) 提到:
佛罗里达一电影院预告片播放时，一个在给3岁女儿写短信的爸爸，被后面一个愤怒的
71岁退休警察当场击毙。
大家小心了。
Man Killed During Argument Over Texting at Movie Theater
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/us/florida-man-is-shot-to-dea
补个死者一家的照片，另外有新闻说短信是给女儿保姆发的。
另外是老头的照片，面相看着就不好惹。
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Maverick (好吃不过饺子) 于 (Wed Jan 15 10:33:21 2014, 美东) 提到:
这好象偏向性很大的样子。
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发帖数: 20343 | 20 还是美国的法律比较公正。
下边是对防卫的解释
要点
Is the Threat Imminent?
威胁是否是当即面对的。
Was the Fear of Harm Reasonable?
对威胁的恐惧是否是合理的。
Imperfect Self-defense
不完美的自卫。 被攻击者认为有立即的威胁而采取了自卫。
Proportional Response
自卫手段要和攻击手段相对应。 自卫手段只能足以对抗危机即可。
Duty to Retreat
被威胁者如果有机会逃离威胁，就必须逃离而不是使用暴力自卫。
Stand Your Ground
被威胁者也可以选择不逃离，而是自卫。 这点和上点矛盾。各州规定不同
Castle Doctrine
可以对在家里破门而入的威胁者使用致命手段
Is the Threat Imminent?
As a general rule, self-defense only justifies the use of force when it is
used in response to an immediate threat. The threat c... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 20343 | 21 还是美国的法律比较成熟。可以做参考。
下边是对防卫的解释
要点
Is the Threat Imminent?
威胁是否是当即面对的。
Was the Fear of Harm Reasonable?
对威胁的恐惧是否是合理的。
Imperfect Self-defense
不完美的自卫。 被攻击者认为有立即的威胁而采取了自卫。
Proportional Response
自卫手段要和攻击手段相对应。 自卫手段只能足以对抗危机即可。
Duty to Retreat
被威胁者如果有机会逃离威胁，就必须逃离而不是使用暴力自卫。
Stand Your Ground
被威胁者也可以选择不逃离，而是自卫。 这点和上点矛盾。各州规定不同
Castle Doctrine
可以对在家里破门而入的威胁者使用致命手段
Is the Threat Imminent?
As a general rule, self-defense only justifies the use of force when it is
used in response to an immediate threat. The th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11198 | 22 The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11198 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1709 | 24 11 Reasons Why So Many Experts Believe That A US Economic Crisis Is Imminent
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-20/11-reasons-why-so-many-experts-
believe-us-economic-crisis-imminent
Well, the following are 11 reasons why so many experts now believe that a U.
S. economic crisis is imminent…
#1 Last week, the “spread between the U.S. 2-year and 10-year yields”
turned negative for the very first time in 12 years. An inversion of the
yield curve has occurred prior to every single U.S. recessio... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 25 不同州法律会不同,
以下是florida statute关于justifiable use of deadly force的原文:
"
776.012?Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using
force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the
person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself
or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force.
However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have
a duty to retreat if:
(1)?He or she reasonably believes ... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 26 不同州法律会不同,
以下是florida statute关于justifiable use of deadly force的原文:
"
776.012?Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using
force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the
person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself
or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force.
However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have
a duty to retreat if:
(1)?He or she reasonably believes ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1434 | 27 在stand your ground的州，在自己家满足使用deadly force的条件比大街上遇到的条
件少多了。以UTAH为例。
在大街上，必需要满足you must have a reasonable belief that it is necessary
to protect yourself against the imminent use of unlawful force.
这个包含3点：1，reasonable belief，也就是普通大众的观点；2，necessary，也就
是开枪是必需的；3，imminent ，也就是犯罪马上就要发生的。
转身之后，imminent的条件基本就没有了，所以大街上转身不要开枪。
在你的habitation，只需要：(1) break in + you have a reasonable fear that
they are going to harm you；或者(2) you reasonably believe that the
assailant is there to commit a felony.
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发帖数: 32207 | 28 However, in terms of how "imminent threat" is defined, laws in different
states are written differently.
In the Florida Statute case, the law clearly states that, the intruder
doesn't not need to do anything special to constitute his "imminent
threat", literally, against the home owner. As long as he is attempting
to enter or have already entered the dwelling, his physical existence
alone has become an imminent threat, be him facing whichever direction.
imminent
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发帖数: 3509 | 29 fighter644就是法盲
1. 有没有伤害和有没有standing是法律问题，不是你觉得受冒犯就有法律承认的伤害
。消费者集体诉讼那都是有明确的身体或经济伤害的。
2.你引用的那段联合国文件是联大的一份report中关于Internet上言论自由的
recommendation，没有任何法律约束力。
即使是美国总统签署，参议院批准的国际条约，在美国国内也只有普通联邦法律的地位
。如果这样的国际条约与美国宪法抵触，同样是无效的。
另外很多人讨论第一修正案言论自由的标准时说什么imminent danger。imminent
danger本身不是第一修正案法律中使用的词语，通常imminent danger是用来描述正当
防卫的条件之一。
第一修正案判例法中曾经使用过的一个标准叫clear and present danger，但这已经是
过时的法律了，现在通常引用的标准是 brandenburg v. ohio 中提出的标准：
“such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action
and... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12955 | 30
You have a very screwed up idea about what's imminent danger. If a car was
coming and doesn't look like it will stop, then there's imminent danger.
When there's no car around, only the probability that a car will come along
in a few minutes, then the danger is not imminent. She could afford to wait
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发帖数: 29846 | 31 By Michael Filozof
What would happen if a black man armed with a handgun confronted "suspicious
persons" in his neighborhood? What would happen if the "suspicious persons"
were unarmed white teens, one of them was shot dead, and the shooter
claimed self-defense?
This is not an exercise in mere speculation. We know what would happen in
such a case. There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice
, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in
New York Cit... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4860 | 32 就是，起码也得写下面这篇这么长。。。
Why I Am Not A Christian
What Is a Christian?
Nowadays it is not quite that. We have to be a little more vague in our
meaning of Christianity. I think, however, that there are two different
items which are quite essential to anybody calling himself a Christian. The
first is one of a dogmatic nature -- namely, that you must believe in God
and immortality. If you do not believe in those two things, I do not think
that you can properly call yourself a Christian. Then, further tha... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 33 florida法律没提"且无其他路可走"
法律规定只要面对暴力犯罪就可以以枪自卫
776.012?Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using
force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the
person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself
or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force.
However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have
a duty to retreat if:
(1)?He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessar... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 34 你可以参考一下florida statute 776
justifiable use of force这一章
首先仅有如下情况才可以使用deadly force:
776.012?Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using
force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the
person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself
or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force.
However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have
a duty to retreat if:
(1)?He or she reason... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 44 | 35 In my understanding, "imminent threat" is fundamental for use of deadly
force, indoor or outdoor.Even in FL, the state with strongest SD law, this
clause is clearly presented. Borrowing a quote from above:
"776.013(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent
peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when
using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great
bodily harm to another if:" -- imminent peril of death is still presen... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 36 NO 776.013 (3) is NOT the only clause mentioning use of deadly force.
there is 776.012:
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776.012 Use of force in defense of person.桝 person is justified in using
force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that
the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend
himself
or herself or another against the other抯 imminent use of unlawful force
. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not
have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 37 6月份州长刚签字核准了Threatened Use of Force Act
2014版的Florida Statutes已经对
F.S. 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE一章
及F.S. 775 (TITLE XLVI CRIMES的总章)的部分章节
进行了增删
法案基本上就是将use of deadly force和threatened use of deadly force
放在同一地位
包括可以使用的场合,以及事后的
immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action
均一视同仁
并取消了对符合F.S. 776描述的情况下用枪威胁对方的刑事处罚
下面附上F.S. 776:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_
和一部分法案原文:
F.S. 776.012
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(2)?A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he
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发帖数: 14844 | 38 这个case很难成立，参考wikipedia "hate speech"
Traditionally, however, if the speech did not fall within one of the above
categorical exceptions, it was protected speech. In 1969, the Supreme Court
protected a Ku Klux Klan member’s racist and hate filled speech and created
the ‘imminent danger’ test to permit hate speech. The court ruled in
Brandenburg v. Ohio that; "The constitutional guarantees of free speech and
free press do not permit a state to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use
of force, or of... 阅读全帖 |
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reliveslily (lily) 于 (Mon Oct 21 22:19:18 2013, 美东) 提到:
华人不是号称收入高吗，注册一个公共基金会，华人给这个基金会捐款，用捐款雇佣律
师起诉ABC这个栏目组racial hate crime，收到律师信，这个节目组就消停了。几乎所
有的大公司都害怕司法诉讼，媒体公司也不例外.至少当事的这些人要花相当大的时间
精力来应付司法传唤，那么ABC必然希望庭外和解，那么华人可以要求公开道歉。
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octobersun (octobersun) 于 (Mon Oct 21 23:02:36 2013, 美东) 提到:
同意。
只要有律师愿意接，钱不是问题。
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AustinTKX2 (mumaren) 于 (Mon Oct 21 23:09:33 2013, 美东) 提到:
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发帖数: 734 | 40 来自主题: EnglishChat版 - 将要发生 The system will take reactive or proactive actions against all past,
present, imminent, and future hostile threats.
"imminent" is usually used to describe something bad that is about
to happen, e.g., "imminent danger". I don't think it can be used
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O******e
发帖数: 734 | 41 来自主题: EnglishChat版 - 将要发生 The prospect of a delicious meal:
made mydb and companion slobber over a computer keyboard and mouse,
putting them in imminent danger of being zapped;
made newcastle have nasty thoughts over a puddle of drool,
bringing imminent fear of what thoughts he might derive from other
fluids,
made stud drip and some unknown person swallow,
causing imminent injustice due to misunderstanding;
made netghost ...
I can't think of anything to say about the good righteous netghost;
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f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 42 医护人员救死扶伤，这是大家在踏进医学院之时就开始受的熏陶。很多人从做住院医开
始就会遇到不同做义工的机会，也许是教会或某个慈善机构组织的免费就医日，或者是
某个医生组织发起的为社区的服务。在做义工或紧急时刻遇上救死扶伤的情形，怎样保
护你自己，是每一个在美国做医生首先需要考虑的。
下面是wiki上对Good Samaritan Law的解释，每个州的法律条例不一样，大家可以来说
说自己是如何处理这个问题的。
Good Samaritan law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law
United States
The details of good Samaritan laws/acts in various jurisdictions vary,
including who is protected from liability and in what circumstances.[4] Not
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发帖数: 70 | 43 二级谋杀也是有预谋的，但是必须满足1或者2
1.
At the time of the killing they are acting under a sudden and intense
passion resulting from serious provocation by the individual killed or
another whom the offender endeavors to kill, but he negligently or
accidentally causes the death of the innocent individual; or
2. At the time of the killing you believe the circumstances to be such that,
if they existed, would justify or exonerate the killing under the
principles stated in Article 7 of this Code, but their belief i... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11545 | 45 This is a very famous case in terms of the issue of reasonably known
imminent harm. One robber pretended that he was a bystander after seeing
the guy start shooting, but the shooter was not stupid either, and he fired
at him without hesitation or mercy. The shooter's lawyer did an excellenct
job in defensing him, but nonetheless the shooter was found guilty on appeal
at the interpretation of law. The reasonably known imminent harm is an
objective test by a prudent ordinary person, not a subje... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 46 法律原文是你认定对方有"imminent use of unlawful force"
换句话说,你可以打,但回头法院也可以不认可你的说法,
如果你不能让法庭认可你的"认定".
很显然,如果对方仅仅对你进行盘问,那是无法让一个正常人确信他将立即被攻击的
需要注意的是,允许defense against imminent attack并不等于允许pre-emptive
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s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 47 Not necessary. You have to prove that a prudent person in your position
would reasonably feel that you were in imminent danger of death or bodily
harm. You might not be able to convince the jury that you were in imminent
danger when the bikers tried to stop you in front after chasing has been on
for some time.
Of course, he has a complete self-defense against the first 3 bikes he ran
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s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 48 In the beginning, he should yield, of course. Don't honk, don't say a word,
and move to the right lane cautiously with lane changing signal on; if not
feasible, keep driving on the same lane at a steady low speed until they all
pass. I don't even believe in anybody's bullshit courage to confront.
Those who say they will run over and kill the bikers on the run are just
boasting here. I have seen too many of them. They claim what they will do
in a hypo, but in reality they will be very WS when t... 阅读全帖 |
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B*****t
发帖数: 820 | 49 俺觉得你的理解不正确，从你给的link上看，这个威胁必须要directed to inciting
or producing imminent lawless action。
案例有 In Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the Court struck down a criminal
conviction of a Ku Klux Klan group for "advocating ... violence ... as a
means of accomplishing political reform" because their statements at a rally
did not express an immediate, or imminent intent to do violence.
child
护。
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