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D**d
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来自主题: Olympics版 - Lance Armstrong’s Secret Is Out
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/media/books/Keyes-hamilton-the-secret-race.html
Outside Online
Friday, August 31, 2012
Lance Armstrong’s Secret Is Out
The news leaks about The Secret Race have vastly undersold its importance.
Tyler Hamilton’s book is a historic, definitive indictment of cycling’s
culture of doping during the Armstrong era.
By: Christopher Keyes
Hamilton in the 2009 Amgen Tour of California Prologue. Photographer:
Richard Masoner / Cyclelicious / Flickr
Yesterda... 阅读全帖
a*******d
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 这么好的靶子,我要来个逐段驳
good to see some in-depth discussions on this topic-both aptget and snape
have certainly made some dear efforts.
其实你们如果能够把自己的看法更加稍微系统一点的整理一下,可能互相间交流会更流
畅一些。
SNAPE是异性恋,为同性婚姻作辩护;我作为同性恋,可以为APTGET的有一部分作点解
释:
(1)有关同性婚姻和其他多人恋,人兽恋之间关系:
*首先APTGET一边可以说如果同性婚姻得以实施,那么其他那些个恋是不是也要大行其
道呢?
*要反驳这样的解释比较容易,这里很多人指出了其他那些恋和同性婚姻运动没有特别
直接的联系,如果捅开窗户纸,就是一个词irrelevant。我们,包括SNAPE可以承认是
否合法化多人恋,人兽恋等是一个ISSUE,但是和我们的讨论话题没有直接的RELEVANCE
;这世界上的ISSUES太多了,中东和平,气候变暖,海地孤儿贩卖等等,同性恋权益支
持者不可能要先ADDRESS回答完所有这些问题才能有讨论自己问题的余地。
*再要反驳这样的解释是比较难的
b********f
发帖数: 925
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 1 in 5 Gay Men in Big Cities Have HIV
85%的有效性怎么定义的?这个数据高吗?
生物、医学实验室里经常用latex或者polyurathene过滤病毒(就是放病毒过去、把其他大颗粒留下来)。HIV病毒我不熟悉,但是体积确实不大 (100 nm),能有一定的机率穿过一点不奇怪。万事都有概率一说,我亲眼在显微镜下见过10个MICRONS之巨的孔道。任何技术,比如检测CONDOM的通常的电阻测量,都测不出来。
测量那么小的孔道直径的实验方法、测量环境误差很大。打个比方,把套子套上,STRETCH紧,薄膜内任何孔道可能立刻扩大四倍。松弛状态下的测量结果根本IRRELEVANT。
当然不是说一个病毒就能导致感染。病毒密度必须达到一定程度才行。但是还是那句话,万事有个机率。。。
另外那个医生说得对。所谓受伤的定义很松,不需要你有感觉。只要病毒源接触表皮以下就算。肛交比阴道交合容易感染的原因就是直肠的表皮柔弱。

hiv
r*********y
发帖数: 599
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 1 in 5 Gay Men in Big Cities Have HIV
85%不知道怎么定义的,直接在cdc网站上看到的
我直接禁欲好了...

他大颗粒留下来)。HIV病毒我不熟悉,但是体积确实不大 (100 nm),能有一定的机率
穿过一点不奇怪。万事都有概率一说,我亲眼在显微镜下见过10个MICRONS之巨的孔道
。任何技术,比如检测CONDOM的通常的电阻测量,都测不出来。
STRETCH紧,薄膜内任何孔道可能立刻扩大四倍。松弛状态下的测量结果根本
IRRELEVANT。
话,万事有个机率。。。
以下就算。肛交比阴道交合容易感染的原因就是直肠的表皮柔弱。
g********d
发帖数: 4174
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - Canada same-sex marriage immigration
It should not be a problem if one of them can immigrate to Canada as a skilled worker. The US citizenship is irrelevant.
g********d
发帖数: 4174
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/02/states
States should be allowed to disagree on gay marriage

By: Steve Chapman 02/27/11 9:05 PM
President Obama has been denounced by Republicans for asserting federal
power at the expense of state sovereignty. But last week, he was denounced
by Republicans for ... not asserting federal power at the expense of state
sovereignty.
It happened after the Justice Department announced it would not litigate to
uphold the Defense of Marriage Ac... 阅读全帖
g********d
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Huntsman would 'respect' NY gay marriage law
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 6/21/11 6:00 PM EDT Updated: 6/21/11 6:51 PM EDT
Jon Huntsman told reporters on his flyaround that he would not try use
federal powers to block a law legalizing gay marriage in New York, which may
pass as soon as this week:
Former Utah governor and current presidential candidate Jon Huntsman
said on Tuesday that as president he would respect the decision of states
that legalized same-sex marriage and not seek to override those... 阅读全帖
y*****g
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - gay rights in Hong Kong ( July 2011 )
Jul 15, 2011
In Hong Kong, a quiet advance for gay rights
By Kent Ewing
HONG KONG - While gay activists in this conservative city of 7.1 million
people have for years struggled, mostly in vain, to win equal rights and
legal protections for homosexuals, immigration officials have been quietly
handing out special "relationship visas" for partners of gay professionals
coming from overseas.
The stark contradiction has, of course, met with protests of a double
standard among the local gay comm... 阅读全帖
g********d
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/a-bold-cho
Michelangelo Signorile
Editor-at-large, HuffPost Gay Voices; host, 'The Michelangelo Signorile Show
' on Sirius XM's OutQ
The news late last week that the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest
LGBT advocacy group, had tapped Chad Griffin as its new president had many
LGBT activists responding to their Twitter feeds with a collective, "Wow!"
Griffin, among his many credits, was the executive producer of the 2009 film
Outrage, t... 阅读全帖
s*******3
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嗯,我是不知道我竟然还有跟LGBT Activists争论多数人能不能投票决定少数人权利的
一天,我还是反方~~~~,这算不算一种黑色幽默啊。。。。。。
不过我没说过给同性婚姻和血缘婚姻划等号吧,从头到尾,说得都是之所以不反对同性
婚姻,是源自成人、清醒、自愿、无害这四个前提,而基于相同的前提,近亲婚在我看
来也没有被反对的理由,这可不是把两者等同起来;如果不同意我的观点,大可以,一
,反对我的四个前提;二,证明近亲婚不满足这四个前提。辩来辩去不就是辩得这个吗
,有人认为四个前提还不够,还要加上一个“公共意愿”;有人认为近亲婚有害,不满
足四个前提,我也都回复了。
你说的二言的置顶文章,我是真的真的很不以为然。反驳其中两点(孩子和利益)我前
面有帖子也专门说了,至于所谓排他,是说异性恋不找近亲还可以找别人,同性恋不找
同性就只能单身吧?这个还是不成立,因为照这个说法异族通婚就不成立——本族的异
性多得是,为什么一定要外F?
——因为这是TA的自由,因为这是TA的生活不是你的生活,TA选择跟TA共渡一
生,那是每个人生而有之的权利。
近亲相爱一样可以有非卿不嫁/娶的情况,一样也是排他的,... 阅读全帖
g********d
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - Chick-fil-A的销售业绩变化.
irrelevant
m******1
发帖数: 19713
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 你们对抵制日货怎么看?
每次看到你和pipinu的帖子,就觉得你们俩的心灵特别扭曲,不知道是不是因为受过什
么刺激。你们俩一个共同点,就是说不了三句话毕竟就focus on到钱上,一边极力挖苦
嘲笑(你们认为)不如你们有钱的人,一边拼命向别人暗示你们自己特别有钱。你们到
底是在生活中受过何等强烈的刺激,才让你们如此极度自卑到只能靠隔空向别人暗示你
们有钱,才能让你们得到极大的满足感?我深感好奇。
认为日本货质量好的,未必都是肯定开toyota的,也未必没有你有钱。人家不愿意跟你
比有钱没钱,是因为人家认为这个问题irrelevant,不代表人家肯定没你有钱。你make
sense一点吧,别老显得跟一只极度自卑的井底之蛙似的。
m******1
发帖数: 19713
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 你们对抵制日货怎么看?
每次我看到他们这种嘲笑别人的帖子,就想回他几句,可是又怕他们以为我回嘴是因为
我真的受到伤害了。其实我真是想告诉这些人,你们认为的这个可以用来伤害别人的标
准-----钱的标准,在我眼里真的根本就irrelevant。只是想劝他们留着这把他们很引
以为自豪的利剑,去用到和他们自己一样的人身上。
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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Smart Republicans should act asap to prevent their own party from becoming
ever more irrelevant in today's demographics.
D**S
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估计聪明的老大党员们看清楚了,谁不在这些核心社会议题上和历史大趋势同向,谁就
会在甚至本党里面变得irrelevent.
g********d
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你的鄙视或是赞赏正在或很快就要IRRELEVANT,等着被扫进历史的垃圾堆吧。
q*c
发帖数: 9453
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我看是这些支持同性恋的国家和民族统统要进历史的垃圾堆, irrelevant 吧。
g********d
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One comment:
They only approved Article 1. It is the crucial article changing the
definition of marriage but there are plenty more (on adoption, etc).
The fact Article 1 was approved by a relatively comfortable margin is a good
sign because there were worries the overall bill could fail in the Senate (
which would not have mattered since the Assemblee Nationale always has the
last word regardles) as the Left has a very very narrow majority in the
Senate and there were some wobbly Senators (but m... 阅读全帖
g********d
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 你们以后还相信方舟子吗?
所以他最恶心的不是公报私仇,而是成了高级5毛,此人以后危害大于正面作用,当然
也许他会没有什么公信力了,变得IRRELEVANT。
m******1
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其实这些都irrelevant。歧视黑人的那些极端白人也不是一无是处的,也有可能救人。
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - Michigan's gay marriage ban going to trial
http://news.yahoo.com/michigan-39-gay-marriage-ban-going-trial-
DETROIT (AP) — Michigan's nearly decade-old ban on gay marriage is going to
trial Tuesday, with two weeks set aside for testimony from experts about
whether there's a legitimate state interest in restricting marriage to a man
and a woman.
Same-sex couples poised for a favorable ruling last fall had lined up for
marriage licenses across Michigan, only to be stunned when U.S. District
Judge Bernard Friedman said he wanted to hold a tr... 阅读全帖
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - Michigan's gay marriage ban going to trial
http://news.yahoo.com/michigan-39-gay-marriage-ban-going-trial-
DETROIT (AP) — Michigan's nearly decade-old ban on gay marriage is going to
trial Tuesday, with two weeks set aside for testimony from experts about
whether there's a legitimate state interest in restricting marriage to a man
and a woman.
Same-sex couples poised for a favorable ruling last fall had lined up for
marriage licenses across Michigan, only to be stunned when U.S. District
Judge Bernard Friedman said he wanted to hold a tr... 阅读全帖
D**S
发帖数: 24887
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评论里面这一条打脸打得真狠真到位:
Bafri
How ironic that a millennium or more these religious groups have mercilessly
persecuted homosexuals in the U.S. and elsewhere, but now when finally
forced to abide by our Constitution with respect to Equal Protection and Due
Process this man (in ever more hysterical language) is calling them the "
terrorists." To gain marriage equality, homosexuals have not blocked, bombed
, or harassed clinics, suppressed women, minorities, or straights, stretched
straights on the rack, ... 阅读全帖
C*****H
发帖数: 7927
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☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
yangguo1 (杨过) 于 (Wed Mar 13 14:04:26 2013, 美东) 提到:
发信人: yangguo1 (杨过), 信区: Complain
标 题: [投诉]RuralChina版主lxinzheng滥用职权删贴
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 13 13:35:01 2013, 美东)
投诉人(ID):
yangguo1
投诉对象及职务(限版主):
RuralChina版主Lxinzheng
投诉标题:
投诉RuralCHina版主lxinzheng滥用职权删贴
投诉目标(更改处理决定/更改板规/弹劾板主...):
恢复被删除的文章
投诉理由及证据:
本人explained the point of a post to ID eastriver01 without violating any
rules of this website.However my post was deleted immediately with no
explainati... 阅读全帖
C*****H
发帖数: 7927
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来自主题: RuralChina版 - 投诉
道啥歉, 我下午提前提示过了, 无关帖子都要锁, 你晚上还发, 没封你就很客气了。
“ ChengCH (城城) 于 (Wed Mar 13 17:09:58 2013, 美东) 提到:
Kindly reminder to all:
Please try to keep the election running posts on BOARD board, back up posts
as you like, I will remove some irrelevant threads this evening.”
而且,上月一个月的排名说明啥? 说明你们有预谋要来捣乱呗
要算至少也得算上半年的灌水统计吧
某同学上次申请的时候, 唯一的帖子是之前九个月的, 这次懂造势了, 呵呵。
h*h
发帖数: 27852
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来自主题: Salon版 - 我老给巴马的信 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: hsh (三胡), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: 我老给巴马的信
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 22 07:59:12 2011, 美东)
Libyan genocide calls for immediate military intervention
Dear president,
Even though this letter has very little chance to actually reach you, I'd
still put my full heart into pledging you to consider immediate military
intervention in Libya.
21 years ago, I was a student protester in Tienanmen square. We were
complete peaceful, yet CCP summoned a military force of 250000 men from ... 阅读全帖
s**********t
发帖数: 1846
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An Open Letter to Shi-Min Fang
from Robert Root-Bernstein, Ph. D., Professor of Physiology,
Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI 48824 USA;
r******[email protected].
Dated 3 August 2011.
A number of people, including myself, have accused you of plagiarizing my
work. You and your followers have denied it. Let’s use this difference of
opinion to educate ourselves about what constitutes plagiarism in and see if
we can reach an accord.
Let me begin by stating that I am basing my arguments on The Univ... 阅读全帖
f***l
发帖数: 5
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来自主题: Talk版 - 版规应该改一改
Support!!!
From wiki: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone
who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an
online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of
baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt
normal on-topic discussion.
m******t
发帖数: 2416
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Well if you agree that this fact won't help them excuse/exonerate themselves
, it's irrelevant in
their punishment either, then why do you still
think that the punishment "hurts the trust as a
virtue"?
On your last point, you are right that "trust"
is one of the fundamental virtues of human beings,
but then so is "don't do bad things".

can
a**t
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If I were the board master, I would ban these IDs whoever post irrelevent
long US goverment whining and chinese hatred comments by chinese authors for
at least 70 days.

t
N********n
发帖数: 8363
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来自主题: USANews版 - Not even NBC can take it any more
Look at the dumb shill Obama hired. The NBC guy complained to her it is
unfair for Wall St. to profit off tax payers' money. The shill responded
w/ a load of irrelevant BS so the host had to dumb it down to "selling
hamburgers" to explain it to her, and she still didn't get it.
Anyone believes economy can recover w/ such fools managing might as well
believe pigs are flying in the sky at this very moment.
y****t
发帖数: 10233
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来自主题: USANews版 - NYT: Senate Financial Bill Misguided
这狗屎financial bill连左棍都看不过去了.
As Democrats close in on their goal of overhauling the nation’s financial
regulations, several prominent experts say that the legislation does not
even address the right problems, leaving the financial system vulnerable to
another major crisis.
“The Dodd bill is almost entirely irrelevant,” Mr. Vigilante said in a
telephone interview. “All it does is strengthen what we’ve had for years,
” a system that depends on judgments made by regulators behind closed doors
.
http
b*********d
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and someone does nothing but complaining to irrelevant people. i don't see
any possible solution how the corruption is solved from the comments i
received. just naive ideologies, complains and PAs. good job.
l****z
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Robert Weissberg炮轰文凭大跃进:传授知识是可取的,但乱发文凭是害人的骗局;奥
巴马说到2020
年要多提供5百万大学毕业生
The College Diploma Fraud
By Robert Weissberg
For more than a half-century, government has tried to close racial gaps in
educational attainment. Sad to say, those gaps have proven intractable.
Nevertheless, the impulse remains as heartfelt as ever (perhaps due to its
financially lucrative character), but the emphasis is now shifting from
actual learning to equality of graduation rates. President Obama has spoken
of adding 5... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Ben Bernanke's Inflation Deception --
Ben Bernanke's Inflation Deception --
and What to Do About It
Ann Coulter
Dear Fellow Conservative,
Prices are soaring. From milk to gasoline, the things you buy every day are
skyrocketing.
Yet when '60 Minutes' asked Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke what "
degree of confidence" he had in his ability to prevent inflation from
getting out of control, he responded with a jaw-dropping "100 percent"!
Even Diane Sawyer's expression changed, and that hasn't happened since the
late 70's.
Even Andy... 阅读全帖
p******e
发帖数: 897
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A law under consideration in South Dakota would expand the definition of "
justifiable homicide" to include killings that are intended to prevent harm
to a fetus—a move that could make it legal to kill doctors who perform
abortions. The Republican-backed legislation, House Bill 1171 [1], has
passed out of committee on a nine-to-three party-line vote [2], and is
expected to face a floor vote in the state's GOP-dominated House of
Representatives soon.
"The bill in South Dakota is an invitation to ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Andrew G. Bostom
Once again a mere flicker -- in this case burning a copy of the Koran in
Florida -- has ignited the inferno of deeply seated infidel-hatred that
pervades the contemporary Muslim world, precipitating violence, death, and
general mayhem amongst our Afghan " allies."
This eruption was hardly pastor Terry Jones' fault. The insane orgy of
murderous Muslim violence in Afghanistan was a direct result of Islamic
doctrine. Jones' simple non-violent act effectively administered a
diag... 阅读全帖
l****z
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by n*****[email protected] (The blogprof)
For a group they insisted was irrelevant and fringe, they sure have a bad
case of Tea Party derangement syndrome:
The race card - the last refuge of the that lost the argument long ago. And
this one is too easy, but commie truther Obama czar Van Jones got into the
act as well: Van Jones Compares ‘Un-American’ GOP to Terrorists; Putting
‘Gun to Head of 310 Million People’
Remember when liberals called for that new civility a few months ago? That
new tone? Yea... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Obama's None-Too-Divine Comedy
September 20, 2011
By Robert Gelinas
The decision of who will become the next president of the United States will
be made long before November of 2012. After the current president's most
recent tour de farce before a joint session of Congress, it is rapidly
becoming a foregone conclusion who it's not going to be.
The Obama-adoring New York Times concedes that their manufactured politician
may be in deep trouble as his own base begins to abandon him. Independents
have already done so. The righ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Beating the Racism Card
By J.R. Dunn
Obama is finished. It's not so much the past six weeks, rough as they were,
as his own actions and responses that have finished him. His showdown with
Congress over the debt limit, which he then ran away from. His
bewilderment at the fact that markets responded to that level of stress with
a serious slump. The lousy job numbers, which anybody but Obama and his
kept economists could have predicted. His insistence on his precious
vacation at a time when the country was deeply sha... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Taxing the Cloud
As the cloud-computing market grows, revenue-starved states are looking to
grab a piece of the action by expanding the definition of nexus.
David Rosenbaum
Rackspace, a cloud hosting company headquartered in San Antonio, has been
racking up sales at a torrid pace. Net revenue for the second quarter of
2011 was $247 million, a 32% increase over the previous quarter, beating
analyst expectations and propelling the company to $1 billion in annualized
run rate revenue. The company reported 10,000 ne... 阅读全帖
l****z
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posted at 10:50 am on December 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Two years ago, the Obama administration practically staged an airlift of
leading Democratic officials to the UN climate conference in Copenhagen.
Barack Obama himself made an appearance, as did Nancy Pelosi, Hillary
Clinton, and even Republican Senator Jim Inhofe, who went to represent the
AGW skeptics and demand answers to the then-breaking Climategate scandal.
In the end, Obama could only produce a non-binding agreement that even he
didn... 阅读全帖
B**W
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Washington (CNN) -- The congressional impasse over extending the payroll tax
cut became a showdown Tuesday between President Barack Obama and House
Speaker John Boehner.
After the Republican-controlled House passed a measure calling for more
negotiations, Boehner made public a letter to Obama that urged him to order
the Senate back from its holiday break to take part in further talks.
Leaders in the Democratic-controlled Senate reject that idea, and Obama
agreed with them, telling reporters in a... 阅读全帖
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January 1, 2012 by Charlie Quidnunc
I rarely agree with proven sock puppet Glenn Greenwald. But he does have the
admirable quality of being willing to criticize the President and other
lefties when they fail to live up to the Greenwald standard of liberal
perfection. In his typical long winded and multiple times updated, extended,
and revised post today, he nails all the things about Obama that drive the
left crazy. They are all issues that could potentially drive independents
away from the Demo... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - buffett又赢了.
The argument is whether or not WB is a hypocrite.I am a hypocrite or not is
irrelevant to the argument.If you want to make a counter argument, make it
to the point.Don't change the subject.
I will not donate money to IRS to reduce the deficit, no matter how much WB
is going to match. I simply do not care.

donate
C*******r
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来自主题: USANews版 - Trayvon Martin Went For Zimmerman's Gun
而且多出个13岁的目击证人,是martin先把Zimmerman打倒在地:
George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-
year
-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that
Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his
head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC
News.
Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found
suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching
him.
The new infor... 阅读全帖
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why do YOU care about a Black kid killed by a Mexican?
it's so remote and so irrelevant to Chinese immigrants.
the Obama care thing could change everyone's life.
whether you are for or against that law, the health care system is deeply
sick, and it's everybody's business.
yet probably less than 1/10 of the ppl here could even understand the
complexity of the issues.
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Polar Bears Hate Al Gore
April 5, 2012 Posted by Dan Karipides
It would seem that polar bears can be added to the lists of groups that
consider Al Gore irrelevant. You will recall that including polar bears on
endangered species lists has been an topic of much debate. I believe they
currently are listed as an endangered species because of the immanent threat
of global warming climate change. If only the polar bears were listening.
(Hat tip: Althouse.)
The number of bears along the western shore of Hudson Bay, b... 阅读全帖
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Irrelevant
Are you telling me your forefathers' constitution only works for white?
P*********0
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Irrelevant
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